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Pat Robertson, Hate Monger, Terrorist

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by dr dij

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Wow, now religious leader in US is a terrorist, making death threats against foreign leaders.

Sounds just like Osama bin Laden: Besides suggesting that we 'take out' Venezuela's new socialist leader, he's trying to get God to become a terrorist and strike down Supreme Court judges in US.

He's got mindless fanatical religous followers, some of whom are bombers (I think the Rudolf fellow who bombed the Atlanta Olympics was a follower of his?)

Well, he suggested this on TV, so I think it's up to the Bush administration to 'take him out' of action (arrest him for terrorist threats). What's next? He'll suggest we 'take out' Sweden's government because they are socialist?

This was to avoid a war with Venezuala costing $250 billion. Well, if he's using Iraq war for comparison shopping, it will cost about $1.1 trillion before it's over. Why he thinks taking out a foreign leader will avoid a war is beyond me. WWI started when (Austrian?) leader was assassinated.

What should happen to Pat Robertson? Should he be arrested for terror threats? The white supremecist guy in Oregon was arrested for putting up website suggesting followers kill black people. Can you be arrested for suggesting someone else kills someone?

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by jamesrl

He wasn't inciting the public to do anything, he was suggesting the US government do it. A fine line perhaps, but perhaps not jailable.

I do think the official state department whimpy condemnation doesn't go far enough. I would think that Bush or at least Condelessa Rice should come out in very clear and strong language condemning any such course of action.

I think Robertson should be shamed and publicly mocked. He actually prayed for god to open up a supreme court vacancy. He is praying that someone die. How hateful is that.

James

by jck

Yeah...a guy who says he represents the word of God...when God (through Jesus) taught love and forgiveness. What was it Jesus said?

"Blessed are the peacemakers..."

Guess Pat isn't so blessed.

by bfilmfan

While freedom of speech is guaranteed in our Constitution, there is no protection for speech which incites violence.

I would be supportive of a charge of making a terroristic threat. Note that he could be charged in multiple states as his signal is viewed in more than one state and he could be charged with a federal crime, in addition.

Will he be arrested for this statement? I highly doubt it unless some really brave district attorney in a liberal area brings a complaint to a grand jury and they bring a true bill. Weirder things have happened though.

by itgirli

You think you hate him? Try having to drive past his university several times a week. Pat's in my backyard. Live in the same town as him and learn the true meaning of hate.

by dr dij

who wants to kill all the gays also?

and maybe anyone who doesn't share his values?

btw, googling +"pat robertson" +hate
came up with 150,000 hits

http://www.cygnus-study.com/pagepat.html
shows some of his maddest rantings

Seems if we elected pat for pres, all those biblical armageddon prophesies would come true!

And humanity will stagnate and wither as we'd never leave earth, & expand to the stars.

by itgirli

He claims that hurricanes hit us to wipe out the gays and that's why so many of them hit the Florida Keys. When a bad hurricane hits virginia beach he says it's to cleanse the area around him of impurity so the people will realize that they are unclean and should turn to him. He's a real nut.

by av .

On my vacation to VA this summer, I stayed a night at the Founders Inn. Mind you, I had no idea that he owned it (I think he sold it in 2000). When I found it on the internet I thought it would be this relaxing spa-type place that was better than your standard hotel.

They never advertised it as a religious retreat type of place, but its weird. There was some kind of religious convention going on there and it seemed that everyone knew each other. We just plain did NOT fit in. I felt like we walked into the Hotel California.

If I had known it was like that, I NEVER would have stayed there. If I had known that Pat Robertson had anything to do with that place, it would have been off my list.

The room was comfortable, but I could have done without the $3 bottle of water that they put by the TV. Thats a real Pat Robertson touch. Of course, the Bellhop tells you when he takes you to your room, if you drink the water (temptation) it'll cost you $3. How about that for Southern hospitality?

They have card key access and every corridor looks the same. Its like a vault. Verrry unrelaxxxxxing. People stared alot too. I felt like instead of going to dinner, I might be the dinner.

I wouldn't expect anything less of Pat Robinson. I am not amazed by what he said, but truly amazed he has any followers.

by dmambo

My (future) wife and I went camping in South Carolina once, and made reservations at state parks near Myrtle Beach as much as possible. But there were two nights that we were forced to go to a public campground. This was in the days before the internet, and the AAA camp ground book failed to mention the Christian theme to the campground. When we got to the entrance and saw the sign, it looked like a mix of Las Vegas neon and Southern Baptist evangelism. Kind of creeped us out, but it WAS clean and was only for 2 nights.

(We drank and fornicated anyway. hehehehe.)

by jck

Robertson said this, according to CNN:

'"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson told viewers on his "The 700 Club" show Monday. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war." '

Under law, Robertson was expressing an *opinion*...not making a terrorist threat. Therefore, they can't arrest him for that.

And besides, why would Bush try to arrest a guy who does campaigning for and makes lots of contributions to the Republican party and raises millions for them from his flock of gullible old senile people?

BTW...go to this site, put in the zipcode 23467 for the 2004 Election Cycle and look for PAT ROBERTSON...he hasn't put much into campaigns himself in 2004...but, check out how active his wife (Adelia Robertson) is with all the $2,000 contributions. Loving husbands use their wives to mask campaign contributions.

http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/indexhtml.exe?MBF=zipcode

God...bless this snake...for he knows what he does...and really needs some forgiveness.

*addendum*

Pat's contributions are found usually under his real name...Marion Gordon Robertson (M G).

by anykey???

quick fix to this whole thing,we need to "take out" Pat. Seems like a reasonably solution to me.

by absolutely

While Al Franken and Rush Limbaugh represent two poles of the United States' collective failure to think, no network is dedicated to de-bunking all these fringe nutcases as the fringe nutcases they are. Considering all the extremist posturing, I estimate there is sufficient market for at least one such network.

Another one I'd like to see is a televised version of factcheck.org, that would provide accurate statistics and history for any and all claims by politicians and other newscast sources. Correcting all the omissions, exaggerations and outright lies would be very expensive, take much more time than carelessly making unverified statements, and probably would not be profitable. But if there were such a program, I guarantee I'd be a loyal viewer.

by jamesrl

"Assasinate", then when the press "pressed" the issue, he issued the apology.

Whether or not its actionable is one thing. It is morally repugnant. Where is the strong condemnation from Bush or at least Rice?

James

by jdclyde

We also see that you have issues with more than what he said this week. When you have to take insane leaps of logic to call him a terrorist you discredit anything else you have to say.

[b]Terrorism: [/b] the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.
[b]Terror:[/b] violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands

He did NOT induce terror in anyone.
He did NOT call on his legions to induce terror in anyone.
He stated that the government should go ahead and do this assasination. I have thought and said the same about different middle east leaders, yet I am not a terrorist.

Don't let your rabid hate for someone color your discussions, unless you are only hoping to discuss with others with a like rabid hate.

I have no use for the man in any way, shape, or form but I do not hate him.

You hating someone does not equate to them being a terrorists, or someone that can be locked up. If you check, I am sure you will find that he did NOT say or do anything illegal.

Why is it up the the Bush administration to do anything to him until he does break the law? Are YOU a terrorist for wanting the administration to take Robertson out? Should YOU be put in jail for this reckless act of terrorism? Didn't think so.

by av .

In his trademark valium-like, obsessed-repressed manner, he just casually endorsed the assassination of a world leader. Granted, Hugo Chavez wouldn't be missed, but he is the elected leader of a country. Pat Robertson's religious media power should compel him to choose his words more wisely.

I think he stepped over the line. He isn't a terrorist yet, but he could be if he had more political power. He clearly misused the power he has already and should be taken off-the-air. There are plenty of fanatics in the world already, we don't need one with a big audience. His own "flock" should diss him because his statements clearly show he is not the "man of God" he says he is.

I'm really not up on what he preaches but, I recall Pat Robertson back in the '70s with his "700 Club" program. My friend's mother used to watch it and I remember thinking what a kook the guy was.

Pat Robertson could be dangerous. Just think, he ran for President. Could you imagine what our world would be like today if he ever won (PRAISE the lord he didn't)? He should be taken off-the-air for inciting those that could be terrorists.

Where is the FCC in all this anyway? On vacation? They came down hard on Janet Jackson's "wardrobe malfunction" and yet they allow this boob to exist (pun intended).

by jdclyde

I don't think they have authority over his agreeing with someone elses idea of assasinating Chavez.

As for the network itself, they can't touch him. It is in his contract when he sold the network that he is to stay on three times a day no matter what. Talk about no presure to perform!

Big difference between breasts on a family program and what is KNOWN to be a religious fanatic on a private network simply agreeing with this course of action.

If wasn't for the press going nuts on this, none of us here would have even known or cared that he said this. But you have been told over and over about this and how you should act.

You have your marching orders, go march or think for yourself. Your choice.

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