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By jkaras ·
Here is an article about a disturbed little boy taken down by two officers while threatening to hurt himself. After reading this, not being a parent I cant begin to imagine how two adult male police officers had to resort to tasering a six year old rather than rushing the child? I dont know how big the piece of glass was but I'm sure that anyone especially trained in disarming could have handled this situation better. I have many friends that are cops but tasering can be as deadly as a bullit as other incidents have been seen. I just dont know what's going on in our world lately, am I wrong to be a little miffed even if it was effective/safe this time?

MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- Police used a stun gun on a 6-year-old boy in his principal's office because he was wielding a piece of glass and threatening to hurt himself, officials said Thursday.

The boy, who was not identified, was shocked with 50,000 volts on October 20 at Kelsey Pharr Elementary School.

Principal Maria Mason called **1 after the child broke a picture frame in her office and waved a piece of glass, holding a security guard back.

When two Miami-Dade County police officers and a school officer arrived, the boy had already cut himself under his eye and on his hand.

The officers talked to the boy without success. When the boy cut his own leg, one officer shocked him with a Taser and another grabbed him to prevent him from falling, police said.

He was treated and taken to a hospital, where he was committed for psychiatric evaluation.

"By using the Taser, we were able to stop the situation, stop him from hurting himself," police spokesman Juan DelCastillo told The Miami Herald.

The case was under review.

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Ridiculous.

by maecuff In reply to Police tactics?

This is insane. The child is obviously disturbed, and shooting him with a TASER to PREVENT him from hurting himself??? That makes no sense. I have a six year old son, if he were shot with a taser, I'd have to hurt someone.

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I agree absolutely!

by ProtiusX In reply to Ridiculous.

I have a five year old who is off the charts for height and weight. He is the average size of a seven year old. Even if we assume this kid was abnormally large I think the officers in question went a little over board.
I would not only have his badge but I would press charges to the full extent of the law (notice I didn?t say I would sue).

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Mae just be grateful that it was in Florida and not Victoria

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Ridiculous.

If it had of been in Victoria Au the police would have shot him dead for his own protection.

Actually come to think of it the same thing most likely would have happened in New South Wales as well. Last year I think they had six Police to subdue a mentally disturbed man on Bondi Beach with a kitchen knife and they method of stopping him from harming himself or others was to shoot him.

Up here in Queensland that would be very unlikely to happen because the Police tend to shoot themselves more than the people that they are suspose to apprehend. We have even had a couple actually kill themselves while on a raid but there was no one near them somehow they managed to kill themselves.

Col

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Benefit of doubt

by TheChas In reply to Police tactics?

Looking over what I have seen on this story, I believe that the officers may have acted in the best interests of the boy.

If he was already cutting himself with the piece of glass, and the officers rushed him, he may have been able to cut an artery before the officers could stop him.
Using the taser, they would have been able to subdue the boy with a lower risk to both the boy and the officers.

On the flip side, how would you feel if the officers had rushed the boy and he cut an artery and bled to death?

Chas

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Police tactics?

by "old" devildog In reply to Benefit of doubt

Benifit of the doubt? I have a 10 year old son who has Autism. The area (small back woods town in SE Kansas) is about 100 years behind the world in dealing with developemly disabled children. Just over 6 months ago he suffered a sensory overload at the school they have for " problem children". By the end of a 20 minute fight with thid 10 year old. He was brused and beaten by the local police, arms and legs chained together. All because he was leaving an area outside of the school to enter the school building to relieve his mental sensory overload, as per his Doctor's orders. In the process a cops sunglasses were broken, the local County Attorney (one very dumb blonde) had him charged with a felony count of assulting a police officer? This 10 year old very scared boy was taken to jail in chains were he was kept for 6 months with out even a hearing. His mental health has reverted back 5 years. It has taken all of this time for his mom and I to get him back home. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Yeaterday the County Attorney was jailed as well as two of the 3 officers who fought him to the ground. The charges are felony Civil Rights violations (C.A) and felony assult on a minor (2 cops). It took the Federal goverment to do this but justice is going to be served. This town had never followed the ADA, now it is going to cost them. As you notice "I have not filed for money". That will come after the guilty is heard from the jury on all three of these people. As well as against the school district for not following Federal laws in dealing with disabled children.

Yes I do plan on making this town, county and school district very poor. And yes being the smart people we are, we are moving out of the area, well out of the state. We have all ready been less that well recived in some of the local business. We are "rocking the boat". I don't care. My business is run from my cell phone. My wife has already gotten a transfer from her company. Good bye backwoods and hello 300,000 plus. Just think we moved here to raise our children in a small town with out the pressures of the big towns, and all we got was the inbred hillbillies from ****

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That?s terrible

by ProtiusX In reply to Police tactics?

What can one say to that? I am a father as well. I have two boys and I work with law enforcement of a certain kind. I was shocked when I heard this on the news and the general consensus here is that as fathers we would have to be tasered too.
Your story is tragic and my heart goes out to you and your son. We had a neighbor once whose son was autistic. The boy was a handful for my neighbor and his wife. They eventually divorced with her leaving for California and he staying here. It was hard on the boy going from one house to the next during visitation. He liked to come over our house and play with our kids though.
I hope your family finds peace and comfort in wherever you move to. I also hope you can find it in your heart to forgive those who harmed your boy. I know as a father it would be very hard for me to but ultimately forgiveness aids the forgiver more than the forgiven.

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I agree.

by Bucky Kaufman (MCSD) In reply to Benefit of doubt

I gotta agree - tasering the little kid was the right thing to do. It was that, or let him kill himself. The non-lethal option was clearly the better choice.

I remember my niece doing the classic "touch the stove" think when she was a wee one. I was standing next to the glowing element when this curious little hand slowly reached up to touch the pretty glowy thing.

I slapped the crap outta that little hand - harder than was necessary to get her attention, but just hard enough to knock it outta harms way.

Sometimes a kid's gotta get his hand slapped - or tasered - for his own benefitification.

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You have crossed the line into the ABSOLUTLY INSAIN!

by ProtiusX In reply to I agree.

THE BOY WAS 6 YEARS OLD YOU IDIOT! You are obviously NOT a parent NOR have you had any exposure to developmentally disabled children. You disgust me! I suggest you do some research into Autism before you drool out some more garbage from that gaping festering stinking wound that is your mind!

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Nope..

by maecuff In reply to Benefit of doubt

Still can't agree. I have a 6 year old, and if I had to, I am confident I could get a piece of glass from him without running 50,000 volts through him. What are the chances he'd slice an artery before getting the glass from him? I'd say slim. My kid is pretty damn smart, he started talking a 7 months and reading at age 3 and I am pretty sure, that if I asked him where his arterys were or where he should cut himself if he wanted to do himself harm, he wouldn't have a clue. (Don't think I'll do that though)

****, he could slice an artery while falling down after getting tasered, so, no, I think it is extreme and frightening and there had to be a better way to subdue a SIX year old child.

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What about the Children!!??

by Bucky Kaufman (MCSD) In reply to Nope..

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What are the chances he'd slice an artery before getting the glass from him? I'd say slim.
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Isn't that a little too dicey? I mean, as *dramatic* as the tasers are - they are almost totally harmless. Shocking, yes - but harmless.

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