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by jeftecknt

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I've set up my little P2P at home. I want to share my connection with all my sytems.

I have an AMD K-6 2 running Win2000Pro and a P4 running WinXPPro, both have half a gig of RAM, I have a 3com switch, and I am running ADSL from an external TA.

The problem is my ISP is running PPPoE which requires the user to logon before it actually allows use. This is due to multiple screenames. I tried to use a 3com Frewall that acts as a router/DHCP server. This wasnt an option.

Anybody have any ideas other than changing ISP's (which isn't an option as the user is quite comfortable) Please feel free to offer any suggestions. I am stumped.

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by mrjay67

I have a linksys cable/dsl router. There is a specific option for using PPPoE that allows for logging in with just that device. I dont have to use that kind of login so I dont know any specifics about it.

The other option is to setup ICS(internet connection sharing) on one PC and use it as the router. You could use your existing 3com possibly as a hub/firewall. Once you login with the PC or with the router it should then share out the connection. Since there is a logged in connection already you shouldnt have to use the PPPoE login on the other PCs. You should be able to just open the browser and go. The easiest way Id bet is through a Linksys or similar router that supports PPPoE.

This is a short answer and hope it gets you in the right direction.

Jason

by lordinfidel

PPPoE is nothing really special, which means you don't need special equipment to run it.

Essentially you just need to install the drivers for the connection, I will show you where to get it in a second. Then, create the dial up connection as younormally would, except using your NIC and PPPoE (which is point to point protocol over ethernet).

If you go looking in your OS for PPPoE you won't find it (except for xp/.net, but still use this one). It can be downloaded and installed though.
So go here:

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~normanb/

Read over it.

by lordinfidel

I just reread my post and I can not beleive that I wrote that way.

I apologize for anyone trying to decipher my post above. I am new to the english language, I have only seen it for the past 31 years.

The jist of my post above was that you just need to download and install the pppoe drivers (very important that the clarification is made, I am used to people just downloading something but never installing it).

In any event, once it is installed then you can make the connection. Yes you will still need to know you U/P.

I referenced xp/.net. Yes they have drivers, but from what I have read, they are not that sophisticated and you should use the ones written by william s something (can't remember his last name)

Also, the "read it over" reference, (I have no idea what I was thinking) was meant as read the documentaion before installing.

And as a side note, the PPPoE driver also eliminates the limitaion of connecting linux boxes.

As I am sure that the other geeks outthere like myself opt to install linux firewalls for their dsl connection and use this PPPoE to connect.

Thnx for allowing me again to spout off and show how much my english, albeit my native language, can really suck at times.

by zendog

Heyp UD:

It looks like you've pretty well got your question answered, but if you're still casting about for quick & easy, I'd like to throw this out:

I have a similar situation with a client in a small office setting. My solution was a NETGEAR Prosafe FVS318 Cable/DSL router.

Here's a link:
http://www.netgear.com/products/routers/firewallvpn.asp

If you don't require VPN, you may also find the Websafe firewalls a bit cheaper - I have personally used both products and found them to be very effective, as well as cost-effective. Both also support PPPoE for your ISP. Be sure to do all the firmware updates you can, as these units usually ship with an old firmware, and upgrading can really bump up the featureset.

Hope this helps!

ZD -- Zen and the Art of Computer Maintenance

by jeftecknt

All the ideas presented are exellent. I think I will have to go with The Driver Idea that Lord brought up. Thats ot to say the rest wont do but his does seem the most inexpensive. As for the post and the way it was written the firt one was fine, some people hink if its not written to spec then no one will understand, but any good tech knows that you have to read between some lines to get to the point. But thank you all very much and I will post again with the results.

Juda

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