problem setting up internet / file sharing between two PCS via crossover

By rc9608 ·

My name is Ryan and I am fairly new to this whole forum discussion thing, please be gentle. (And I hope I am in the right spot)

I have two PCs, both with windows XP. Both have an ethernet card installed. One has a wireless internet connection (I share this connection with my roomate over a wireless router [that isn't anywhere near my setup so I cannot plug directly into the router itself]).

What I want to do is network both computers together so they can share files and the internet connection.

I purchased a crossover cable (yes I made sure)and connected both PCs together with it. I ran the network setup wizard on both PCs (which was a little confusing so I dont know if I did it right) It setup a connection but it has a big red "X" on it and it cannot find the network cable (on both machines). On both computers it says the cable is unplugged. And now I sometimes lose my internet connection on the host computer. If I disable the new local network connection I setup on the host I get internet back.

I know it can work, I know its possible to setup it up this way because I have done it before on windows 98. XP is a little different and I don't know what the heck I am doing or even what I am doing wrong. Do I need to manually setup TCP/IP? IPX? I've been reading the forums on this issue and it's all pretty confusing, pretty much everyone has a different solution for this.

I would appreciate any help you guys could give, I do thank you for your time.

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OK follow these steps

by OH Smeg In reply to problem setting up intern ...

On the Host Computer run the Network Setup Wizard. When approaching the section tell the unit that it connects directly to the Internet and that other computers connect through it. Share File & printers and when you reach the end shut off the Wizard.

Plug in the crossover cable and make sure that the cable is reconsigned as plugged in at both ends. If it's not change the cable as it may be faulty.

Then once you are being told that the LAN Cards have a Cable Plugged in run the Network Setup Wizard on the other computer and tell it that it connects to the Internet through another computer on the Network or a Residential Gateway and share the Files & Printers. When you reach the end of this wizard shut down without doing anything else.

If the systems ask to be rebooted reboot and then you should have a working LAN.

Lets know how you get on.


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wrong cable?

by rc9608 In reply to OK follow these steps

I followed your instructions to the "T", no go. I think I might have purchased the wrong cable?

The box says "Nexxtech Crossover Patch Cable CAT5e. Connects computer to computer or hub to hub"

It said crossover so I bought it. However inspecting the connections on both ends, they both look the same. Aren't they supposed to be different?

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Re Connections at RJ 45 Plugs

by OH Smeg In reply to wrong cable?

While the connections are supposed to be different they are only at the actual Wiring Stage where Lead 1 goes to Lead 2 and lead 2 goes to lead 1 and so on all through the 4 Pair Wiring. So you would need a Cable Tester to check the cable.

It's possible that the cable could have been incorrectly labeled or it may not have been checked properly when it was made and have a faulty plug on it. There are so many options and without a Cable Tester there is nothing that you can do to test the cable.

Just as an afterthought most Crossover Cables are a different color to the Standard Blue Cat 5e cable color and they should have some identification on them which from the big cable makers is generally a piece of sticky paper with Crossover printed on it.


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the cable

by rc9608 In reply to Re Connections at RJ 45 P ...

The package says "crossover patch cable". The cable itself is not labeled and it is grey in color. The funny thing is is the manufacturer Nexxtech (dist. by circuit city) does not have a listing for this product on their website.

I've looked at color diagrams of crossovers ... etc and the one I have the connections both look identical to me. maybe it is the wrong cable.
I think I'll go and try to exchange it and try the new one and see what happens.

Man, you would think for $30 for this tiny cable they would package the correct friggin cable! or package a working one.

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Believe me it's much worse when you make your own

by OH Smeg In reply to the cable

Once I spent the best part of a week trying to get a LAN working. Naturally Nothing had been done to it to stop it working and I did specifically ask if any Network Leads had been changed. The reply was No there was no need.

Well they made up their own CAT5 cables and some smart *** had tested a crossover cable on the main patch panel. When it didn't work it was left there and the next day when the entire LAN was down no one could find the problem.

When I finally decided that I had to test every lead in the place I spent 2 days with a Cable Tester checking each and every lead. Naturally the Problem lead was the last one that I looked at.


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by rc9608 In reply to OK follow these steps

OK SO ... I went back to Circuit City (with my crossover cable) and they determined that they in fact have a bad batch of Nexxtech Crossover cables! So they let me exchange my faulty cable for a Belkin Gold Crossover cable. I got home, plugged it in and BOOM instant file sharing! Friggin Nexxtech! BUYER BEWARE: if you go to Circuit City and purchase a Nexxtech Crossover cable, it may not be a crossover cable.

Ok now I have a good crossover cable and file sharing but I still cannot get internet connection sharing. When I open internet explorer on the "guest" computer it tries to detect the proxy settings for a minute (as if it was going to work) then it then pops up the dreaded "page cannot be displayed". I ran the wizard again and setup up everything again. got file sharing but still no internet sharing. any ideas?

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by rc9608 In reply to UPDATE

I forgot I needed to allow internet connection sharing. duh. So I went on the host computer and checked the "allow internet connection sharing" box. When I do this on the internet connection it says "connected, shared" on the host and "Internet Gateway: Wireless connection on HOST. Connected" on the GUEST computer. However I still do not have an internet connection on the GUST computer. Any ideas? I have IP addresses manually setup on both computers. Is that possibly the problem? (host=, guest= subnet mask=

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Do you mean host =,

by ComputerCookie In reply to UPDATE pt2

also what is the IP address of the modem?

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by rc9608 In reply to Do you mean host = 192.16 ...

yes that is correct. typo.

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As the Host computer is working

by OH Smeg In reply to UPDATE pt2

Reset he IP Address to Auto Configure you don't know what else is using that IP Range and what Address they have. Or how the WiFi Access point is allocating Addresses.

If that doesn't work you could try Bridging the WiFi and LAN Connections. But I would set the IP & DNS to Auto Detect rather than Statically before you try to lock down the system. It's easier to work out problems if you haven't introduced any yourself in an attempt to stop problems occurring.


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