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by bucky kaufman (mcsd)

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TechRepublic Member Oz_Media posted personal medical information about another member in a discussion forum - information he has no idea about its accuracy. Without a signed released and *massive* security controls, such releases of private medical information are illegal.

What do you think? Do you think people who release unconfirmed, privledged medical information about others to slander them in public discussion forums should be prosecuted? Should they simply have their posting privledges removed?

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Your shots at Bucky are justified, yet he is just a tired old man with no direction in life and some real medical, psychological problems.

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by zlitocook

No this is a technical web site, no personal information should be posted! Real or what the other person thinks. We should be helping others not flaming each other! There are or should be moderators how look at and remove these type of postings. Any one who keeps posting things like this should have thier log on removed, or restricted. I have wanted to say things about a few people but my good upbringing and my respect for others would not let me do this! I may be a old fart but I still like to learn what others have to say.

by jamesrl

You show no evidence that Oz or anyone else has access to confidential information. So how can they release what they don't have.

Oz suggested you had medical problems, but did not present this along with any evidence. OZ did not allude to possession of any confidential information.

Oz insulted you. You insult others. Get over it.

If you think you have a case for slander, go for it. But behave under the same rules yourself.

James

by maecuff

That's a bit harsh and 'out there' isn't it?? Okay, Here's a scoop for you. Oz has toenail fungus and his hair is frizzy. And, I've heard that Maxwell Edison has an extra baby toe on his left foot. Sue me.

by hal 9000

Punishment you'll have to say 25 Hail Marys and 50 Our Fathers.

Incidentally do not forget to empty the poor box on the way out.

Isn't it stupid when someone carries on like this particularly when they are far from faultless as well. I guess it is a sign that they think they are totally correct in dishing it out but feel differently when it comes back to hit them in the face.

The whole thing seems just a tad Hypocritical to me in this instance.

By the way just how did you know OZ's medical problems?

Also be sure to lock your door tonight as Maxwell might come and visit you with his Silver Hammer!

Col

by maecuff

I went to Catholic School, I've already said my hail marys and our fathers. I had a lifetime's worth in by the 3rd grade.

As far as Oz's and Max's medical issues, well, I'm perceptive, I gleaned that from their postings.

by tomsal

...you have to be kidding right?

Ever hear the saying "Can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen"....it applies on forums, especially some of the high emotional stuff that appears on occassion in the TR misc. forums.

I have been flamed numerous times on this and other forums, it comes with the territory if you are vocal about your personal opinions that you share with others. I flame back, they flame back and usually more times than not I realize the point of the discord I have the person, we'll talk about our differing opinions and it usually ends on relatively good terms knowing we disagree passionately with each other -- but with respect.

Sometimes though you come accross someone who really is low, degrading and shots below the belt truly motivated by hate -- those people you open the can o' whoop a$$ on and you might even report them to the board's administrator.

However, your post is just ridiculous and I think you should just get over it and move on -- like the rest of us do.

by maxwell edison

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You said, "Sometimes though you come across someone who really is low, degrading and shots below the belt truly motivated by hate".

We have indeed run across such a person - and his name is Bucky.

By the way, Oz repeated only what Bucky, himself, revealed and admitted - and posted - on another Internet blog.

by tomsal

Hmm...thanks for the tip, I really just "encountered" Bucky this last week or so, before then I don't remember a thread a participated in with him.

But I'll take your post as a warning to consider when reading his stuff.

thanks.

by cortech

Where are ya today man??? Bucky's gonna tell your mom on you, and she's going to take away your computer priviliges. HAHAHA

Bucky, you wanna take his birthday away??? Or are you going to beat him up by the bike racks after school??

P.S. I can already see the "Neo-Con, dumb Republican, 100,000 dead" spew I'm going to get back on this. HAHA
Man this IS entertainment!

by maxwell edison

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Bucky's been around TechRepublic for several years, but he's never really gotten involved in these off-topic political discussions, at least not that I've noticed. It's painfully obvious that he has a serious axe to grind with the Republican Party and President Bush - even more than the normal opponents and/or real Bush-bashers; and anyone who harps on the "NeoCons" as he does is a dead give-away for identifying an extreme fringe - and even paranoid - way of thinking.

What's really interesting, however, is the fact that he's been a contributing writer for TechRepublic and CNet, but he appears out of nowhere, the day after the election, to antagonize most everyone in these threads - both Bush supporters and opponents. I suppose he values his fringe-thinking opinions more than he does his credibility at TechRepublic.

He also has listed (at different sites) that he believes the government has proof of ETs. He's a real "conspiracy-type" guy. NeoCons conspiring to control the world, captured ETs, etc. Geesh, save it for science-fiction movies. And he even accused some guy of stalking him - and then he accused me of being that guy in disguise - Fred something-or-other.

Hey, sue me, but I see a real problem-child here. In my opinion, he has some serious hate and paranoia issues. I hope he gets help.

The irony or all ironies - Bucky has ME defending OzMedia. Who'd a' thunk it?

by tomsal

"The irony or all ironies - Bucky has ME defending OzMedia. Who'd a' thunk it?"

HAHA...I was thinking how profound that statement is above!!

And who says the impossible isn't possible? :)

I find it interesting btw, to hear that guy is a contributing writer for Cnet and TR...just for s**ts and grins I'd like to read some of his stuff.

I must of been sleeping or just not noticing him if he's been around here for years....considering when I first started using TR it was still in the beta stage.

by hal 9000

Doesn't it Max?

You and OZ almost always seem to be on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to political things but like the professionals that you both are you always offer help when required to anyone who needs it.

Col

by bucky kaufman (mcsd)

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I can't stop laughing. LOLOLOL.
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You seem to be the first one to take this post as it was intended - entertaining troll bait. It was wildly successful.

This is the second time I've done this, to show a prospective customer just how much traffic a discussion forum can generate. Last time I got 100 responses in 24 hours - and that was in a "moderated" discussion forum.

I'm curious to know how many other developers are building discussion software for a zillion different people. I can get SAP to talk to Access, and PHP to talk to Oracle - and not make a dime. But cusotmers are paying *obscene* amounts for custom-built discussion forum software.

The downside is that I don't think they're aware of just how much they open themselves up to liability. Releasing false medical info about someone is bad enough, but what if al Quaeda decides to use your BBS as a comm channel? You could find your whole business sucked up by Homeland Security.

by hal 9000

By the Security/Intelligence services. They monitor all telephony across the country and in & out bound as well. Every phone call, fax transmission, e-mail hell everything is passed through a filter on some massive computer networks and if there are any "Flagged" words it is recorded and traced.

These things help the Government Agencies so keep it up!

Col

by hal 9000

ALCOHOL INDUCED DIZZY SPELLS.

These happen after a very bad day/week and I just have to let off a bit of steam.

Col

by protiusx

The disclosure of ones personal medical information without expressed consent is an invasion of privacy and can be illegal. However if Oz was merely repeating something that was posted by you at a different time then the disclosure was your own during the original post. For a crime to have been committed he would have had to have access to your medical records, remove or copy those medical records without permission, and then use those records.
So I guess what I would advise is that you try to limit the amount of personal information you give out publicly on the Internet.

by ippirate

I can see where your concerns would be fully justified and action is definately necessary. You should make an example of the guilty party.

In further note to your post, no, in fact, it is not Oz who is guilty of posting personal information. He made an accusation and you have in turn confirmed it in your post, thereby, making yourself the responsible party (Until you verified it as fact it was just heresay). As you are in fact an individual who does have direct and intimate knowledge of above stated ailments you do have the direct responsibility to ensure that knowledge of your condition(s) is kept private and only passed to parties with a direct interest/activity in the treatment of said condition(s). In the fact that you failed to uphold your confidentiality you do have the avenue of litigation against yourself for releasing it to the public, if in fact, you, the offending party, did knowingly and willingly, release this information without your, the offended party and clearly a victim in this case, express written consent. This is a matter that you will have to determine prior to bringing legal due to the fact that if you do in fact have written consent to release your condition to the public and you brought suit you could then, in turn, counter for defamation of character, wrongful suit and damages.

If I were you and you were me, I would sue me and go the next step of kicking myself in the cajones for being so arrogant, tasteless, callous and stupid. You would probably be sitting here thinking just how dang stupid I was for posting medical information in full knowledge of it's factual content and sensitive nature. I'm not and neither are you and boy am I glad, I'd hate to be in your shoes and I would definately hate to be as stupid as you have got to be for having done it in the first place. Especially with all the rage about HIPPA in the halls of IT right now.

The only thing that Oz would in fact be in guilt of is voicing a personal opinion with some rather crude comments directed toward you. You could maybe try to get him for exposing how much of an idiot you really are but then again, the judge might agree with that an in turn make you a precedent by actually convicting you of being stupid.

Here's your sign by the way.......

by bucky kaufman (mcsd)

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In further note to your post, no, in fact, it is not Oz who is guilty of posting personal information. He made an accusation and you have in turn confirmed it in your post, thereby, making yourself the responsible party (Until you verified it as fact it was just heresay).

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You're saying that it's okay to release false medical information, but not confirmed factual medical information? That's kinda silly.

by jamesrl

If your erractic and bizarre behaviour here elicits and admittedly cheap shot from Oz - thats give and take. I don't necessarily agree with it, but you yourself have not been terribly good at respecting others, so to a certain extent you reap what you have sown.

On the other hand, if someone comes into possesion of real "medical records", there is a reasonable expectation of privacy, in most modern democracies. There are laws in most jurisdictions.

James

by ippirate

I am saying that you are the idiot that released your own medical information either way.

And again. Where's your sign?

by packet spoofer

"If I were you and you were me, I would sue me and go the next step of kicking myself in the cajones for being so arrogant, tasteless, callous and stupid. You would probably be sitting here thinking just how dang stupid I was for posting medical information in full knowledge of it's factual content and sensitive nature. I'm not and neither are you and boy am I glad, I'd hate to be in your shoes and I would definately hate to be as stupid as you have got to be for having done it in the first place. Especially with all the rage about HIPPA in the halls of IT right now."

i enjoyed this post....any time I can watch someone eloquently and with dripping sarcasm, reduce bucky boy to bread like you did in this post, I enjoy it immensly. He definitely deserves it.

by jamesrl

Never put something in an email that you wouldn't want to see in a newpaper the next day.

It goes double for web pages and blogs, because they can be googled.

James

by ippirate

The idiot still doesn't get the point that he is the twit that posted his personal information, making it public knowledge. To top it all off, he appears to have lost his sign.

by maxwell edison

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"One of the beauties of free speech is this - what one says reflects more on the speaker, than on his subject."

- Bucky Kaufman

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by maecuff

I don't think you'll get a lot of takers on your book from this crowd. You might want to work on that sales approach.

by tomsal

Ok sorry that was bad, but I couldn't help it...

Hey at least its truthful, look at the site...only two reviews for it...1 (the latest one) says its "useless" and gave it only 1 star and the only other reviewer did give a top 5 stars.

by bucky kaufman (mcsd)

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I don't necessarily agree with it, but you yourself have not been terribly good at respecting others, so to a certain extent you reap what you have sown.
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What's disrespectful about discussing politics? Defending the "cheap shots" - now *that's* disrespectful.

by jamesrl

There is a wide gap between what I would consider to be civil discourse and the kind of things you have been posting.

You have insulted republicans as dumb, belonging to a hate based party full of gay bashers. You attack them with a very broad brush, and you don't shy away from using insult, invective and personal attack.

So why then are you confused when you get the same thing back in return? Even from people like Oz, who share some of your sentiments.

I respect your right to express an opinion. I don't have to respect the manner in which you insult and bait people. That is a cheap shot in my book.

James

by packet spoofer

Most people here that I disagree with on many issues....Oz being one of them....I would definitely have a beer with...but I would not want to share oxygen from the same room as this guy...he is obnoxious!

by bucky kaufman (mcsd)

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You have insulted republicans as dumb, belonging to a hate based party full of gay bashers.
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That's not disrespectful. That's descriptive. Disrespectful would be if those "insults" were unfounded. But many Republicans are downright PROUD to be anti-intellectual, hateful toward many peoples, and supportive of gay-bashing. They say so loudly and proudly, and their fellows give their tacit approval to that sentiment.

Remember - this is the party that represents the Aryan nation, White Power, the Moral Majority, the Klan, the Christian Coaltion, and the rest of Americas militant, right wingers. Hatred is a beloved sentiment amongst Bush's followers.

Granted, many Bush Republicans take offense when confronted with their massive stockpile of failures - but that's the price they pay for the life they lead.

by garion11

I had no idea. Thats cool. Are you married? or single? Do you have a picture? Where do you live?

by maecuff

Because your post made me do that thing Homer does when he sees his sister in law. That hudder thing. Seriously Garion, I've seldom agreed with many of your rather frightening rants, and you have disagreed with me more than once, and not always in the nicest way. Then, you find out I'm a girl, and you want to know if I'm SINGLE? If I have a PICTURE? Very odd, however, if you must know:

I'm 49 years old. I weigh 280 pounds. I have a large, hairy mole on my cheek. I've decided that my thinning hair looks best dyed blue/black.

Curiosity satisfied?

by jamesrl

Are you really so blind or are you a troll?

You are painting a picture with a rather broad brush and smearing a lot of people in the process.

How could a party that represents the Aryan Nation and White Power have a cabinet that includes Condelisa Rice and Colin Powell.

I don't agree with many Republicans on gay marriage - I don't have a problem with it - but I don't believe that all of them are hateful or anti-intellectual just because we don't hold the same opinion.

I do think you could be a troll - someone who deliberately provokes outrage and enjoys a big reaction. The alternative - that you actually believe everything you post, is truly frighetening.

James

by hal 9000

You are a very naughty girl and now you'll have to do far Hail Mary's and out fathers to make up for your sins!

But I did love the bit about not classifying yourself as a"Barnyard Animal" however your description of your self well words escape me!

Col

by hal 9000

You should at least know how to behave and that it isn't polite to mention all the aliments by our fellow Peers Particularly a Medical Student with a Large Silver Hammer.

OK I'll relent you can take the whole poor box on the way out.

Actually I have my nephews now attending a Catholic School and they drive me nuts in the way that they carry on always saying prays and insisting on saying grace before you eat. But hopefully they will grow out of it as they are only in the 5-7 year mark and I'm convinced my sister is only doing this to get at me as she has this nasty smirk on her face when ever it happens or she says "Show Uncle Col your new prayer" and then leaves the room giggling.

Col

by bucky kaufman (mcsd)

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Seriously Garion, I've seldom agreed with many of your rather frightening rants, and you have disagreed with me more than once, and not always in the nicest way. Then, you find out I'm a girl, and you want to know if I'm SINGLE?
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I think I actully, really did, injure myself with laughter on that one. In all fairness to your suitor, a lot of girls go for the jerks. For them, abuse is more effective than flowers and candy.

Here, in the states, we refer to those pairings as "Republican". Ya know - slaves submit to your husbands, and all that rot.

by bucky kaufman (mcsd)

So, I might get "bad" publicity for it? Wazzat?

Actually, I haven't receivified any orders for it since like 2000 or 2001. But stay tuned for the sequel - .NET in 21 days.

by packet spoofer

I could go for some of that large hairy mole action right about now......wanna have a beer sugarbiscuits? LOL

by maecuff

But I've gained more weight and it's physically impossible for me to leave the house.

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