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WOW! Is it just me?

I made the top of the list of top scorers. It seems that with all the changes around here. my 4.2M points ALL count, not just those gained from the Q&A section.

Or is TR giving everyone a day in the limelight?

Heh, or does everyone see themselves at the top?

Am I awake?

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by cactus pete

I mentioned this because I feel that I don't belong at the top of that list.

No, if you had daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, and overall scoring stats, THAT would be cool.

But I don't belong at the top of all-time high scorers in the Q&A section. I just have the most total points for the entire TR site.

I hope someone will restore the true leaders to their rightful positions.

by maxwell edison

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I was parked on the top of the list for about a year before I pretty much quit answering questions on a regular basis. (Because of the time I waste on this stupid discussion forum - okay, the forum's not stupid, just some of the discussions I get myself into.) After that, dklippert passed me like I was standing still. (Wait, I was standing still.) Then came Joseph Moore and TheChas. I think Anna disappeared (perhaps because her "creative answering" methods were finally revealed), and I have been anxiously waiting to see who overtook her as number five on the list.

When I first started visiting TR, PWright@something (Paul Wright) was at the top of the list, and he was "the man" to go to. I wonder what happened to him? SyscoKid was another on the list, along with soulrider (who spent a short time at the top), before he changed his handle. There were a couple of others, but I can't recall the handles.

I've always thought that they should have another list for the top 5 point awarders. I think I'd be at the top of that list, at least I'd probably be on the list, as I've given away almost all of my points, at least as it relates to the total number of points I've earned. (I've asked quite a few 10,000 - 50,000 point questions - some just for fun.)

dpetrak, are you sure the new list reflects total points earned (by means other than answering Q&A), and it is not just the latest in a series of "glitches"?

If it is legit, enjoy your time in the limelight! (Although it's not worth a thing.)

By the way, the guy at the top has to buy the beer.

by cactus pete

If we're paying with points... I suppose I can afford to buy. At least they'd get some value!

Don't forget, I'm the DD, so it's on me.

by oz_media

I see only one flaw to offering a highest points allocated list, they would be the same people at the top of both lists.

The guy with 500K points can offer 100,000 for a simple question.
The guy with 5K points will not be able to live up to it, and therefore both lists Top scorer and Top awarder could easily be manipulated by the top scorers to have them in both top 5 lists.

Did that make any sense? It was almost a tongue twister.

by maxwell edison

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The top Q&A guy, dklippert, hasn't asked a single question, at least not the last time I looked. So while he would be at the top of one list, he wouldn't even make the other. I don't think Anna has asked a question either? (I wonder what they're "saving" the points for.) TheChas is pretty generous throwing points around (I missed the veterans question), as is Joseph Moore (I think).

Anyway, the suggestion was really no more than just a passing thought, something I doubt they'd ever do. And one of the reasons they probably wouldn't do is the one you articulated. People would be throwing around points left and right just to get on the list........on second thought, that might be kinda' fun. A "points war", kinda like the "gas wars" of the 60s in reverse.

Gee, who remembers those signs "GAS WAR" at the filling stations? And they'd do a full service for a quarter a gallon!

by thechas

Congratulations on making it to the top of the list.

Looking at the list, the order of the peer listing does not correlate with the point totals.

Perchance, TR will either correct the issue, or at least explain the new ranking system to us.

Chas

by cactus pete

The points awarded via the Q&A section aren't the determining factor in rank there anymore. That's obvious. But there used to be many other ways to harvest [a word I don't use lightly in this case] points. I suspect I and the others on that list achieved the rank we now have from those other means.

As you can see, I have something around 30k points for answering questions. However, I have 4.2M in total. I don't think you can see that, can you?

All of those points are available to me t award to others in the Q&A section, but aren't the total that I earned there.

by oz_media

You used to get a hoard of points for accepting TR email and subscibing to the lists, once that was killed, it is like pulling hens teeth to try and get ANY points. When someone asks an rather involed question, and you spend half an hour posting links and researchign answers only to have the 150 points offered split between 5 people (if you are lucky enough to have the question closed)it takes a LONG time to get anywhere. I know points are pretty much useless, but it is an inner pride/sense of worth feling when you can help other people out, it is just defeating to not have answers accepted (whether right or wrong) and make one think twice about helping out again.

Time sensitive, if you don't close the question, your offered points, PLUS the 1000 for closing the question are automatically split between ALL answers, right or wrong.

by Jay Garmon

Hey fellas.

I don't have a firm answer for you yet (and may not for a while), but I'm pretty sure these new rankings are the result of the same community core upgrade that has given you emoticons and live URLs in forum posts. There are actually a few other features that went live during the rollout that we're still testing, so watch for an announcement in the next few weeks.

However, while we're on the subject, the idea of a new peer recognition system--one which may or may not include TechPoints--has been under heated discussion as of late. Since you guys are some of our most frequent forum participants, maybe you guys could weigh in on the issue.

What sort of peer recognition system would you like to see? Should it based on TechPoints. Since TechPoints were a large part of the impetus behind a sepaprate Tech Q&A area, would you be in favor of a unified interface, with Tech Q&A and the Discussion Forums folded together? Would you be receptive to moderators as part of that forum?

Your input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

--Jay

by oz_media

Well first of all the thought of lumping Discussions and Tech Q&A into one forum doesn't reeally appeal to me, I want to get away from questions sometimes.

Last night I was told by two new menbers that Discussion forum is for asking technical questions and not for off topic discussions. To which I simply cut and pasted the headings from both Q&A and discussions to show them exactly what each forum is for.

The system is great, it works and is helpful. The navigation is not clear, that is why everyone simply Discusses thier issues instead of posting to tech Q&A. I think ernaming and moving these links as well as a clear intro page to each forum explaining the purpose would be MUCH more effective.

Even if you separated the two WITHIN Discussions, people will STILL mispost on a regular basis, thus the problem is not solved.

If you are restructuring the site, it takes a whole 30 seconds to change your CSS sheet for the Navigation, I downloaded your page to dreamweaver and tried it myself.

I think perhaps you guys are looking too deep to resolve a VERY simple issue.

As for recognition, well it would be REALLY cool to see TR actrually cough up priizes when they say they will. From what I understand none of the Geek contest runners up got mugs, none of the uber geek runners up did either, although we did get the TR finalist signatures.

Perhaps put it into a point system similar to Horse Player Interactive points. You have a small online catalogue of goodies, TR flags, stickers, books, mugs, t-shirts whatever you have. People simply BUY them with earned points. Your outlay would be minimal, I am sure your other sponsors could also chip in prizes ect.(C-Net can't help?) It would work so well, is being done everywhere, ClubZ, HPI, Coke and Pepsi, it just works. It costs the company VERY little and increases participation well, while offering some great user stats to the site owners.

So simple, you were ALMOST there with the Tech Q&A page but it seems it just wasn't followed through.

"Ask Your Questions Here" "Help others and earn prizes."

It really has potential, what you have already done is great, just not finished.

by cactus pete

I don't think that it's worth trying to moderate [any more than is currently being done] the miscellaneous discussions. If people post in the correct place, I doubt any other the other topic headers would be in need of moderation.

Personally, I like the idea of getting some ranking done based on your Q&A participation. That doesn't mean it has to be the ONLY ranking system you have. I mean, c'mon, it's a bunch of different database queries... And they are the batched type, for the most part... Give the intern(s) something to do!

And as for ranking discussion participation, well, I think we'd end up with a lot of negative ranking, if you follow...

There are several type sof talent here, though... I notice a propensity to create articles based on discussions we have. Perhaps awarding some points to someone for that, too. "I got published, and 5000 points!" or something like that. Or if someone submits an article of their own, and you use it, give them some more points.

And rank on genre as well as total points... Have a ranking for the Q&A lovers, a separate one for articles, another for discussions [still don't think that one will fly, orville], etc. And as suggested above, give the rolling ranking, too.

And if you REALLY want more participation in something, offer some TR-gear for the points earned... Oh, wait...

by thechas

Tech points earned are as good a method to rank peers in the Technical Q&A area as any other.

Percentage of accepted answers has a few problems in my mind.
1 is the large number of unrated answers.

2 Is that if the ranking was based on accepted answers some peers would be less willing to offer answers to questions unless they were 100% sure they had the correct answer.

As to moderators, I don't think they are needed for the Technical discussions and questions.

What you might consider through, is moving the "off-topic" discussions to there own separate area.
Perhaps a TR water-cooler or Break room specifically for peers who wish to exchange ideas on non-technical topics.

That way, peers and visitors who are bothered by the political discussions can easily avoid them. Yet, those of us who wish to participate can do so freely.

Chas

by maxwell edison

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I would sure like the "My Discussions" to list the ones I'm currently involved in instead of older ones, some years old.

Thanks

By the way, what ever happened to the idea of a larger 10k/5k indicator (the one next to your alias) - and more of them with more colors for more levels of point achievement?

by oz_media

I bow to you humbly!

Well done, I have been trying to break the 50K mark for sometime now but it seems so many questions are left open. I actually posted an HTML test and cannot Withdraw it now, there is no question so nobody has answered it either.

If anyone wants the points, here's a URL.
http://tinyurl.com/25nls

I cannot withdraw it (broken link) or close it.

Well done dpetrak !!

I actually had someone tell me off for suggesting that the discussion forum was not really for asking technical questions, someone else even backed him and added that POLITICAL discusions are not appropriae fro the Discussion forum and technical questions are. Well that would kinda defeat the purpose of those of us who do actually try and help people out.

What's with people's kids these days? Can't anyone read anymore?

by cactus pete

Well, I answered your nonquestion. Do me a favor and wait for anyone else to post for the points. If it's too diluted, I'll give them my share...

I share your exasperation about questions in the wrong place. Ever notice there are no general discussions in the Q&A section? Cheap and or lazy people? I'm mostly in a funk where I ignore the questions in the wrong place, at the moment. Perhaps I'll care enough again soon to bitch about it again.

Thanks for the kind thoughts.

by cactus pete

But the points war sounds fun. We need some parameters, or should it just be Texas Hold'em?

10k buyin for my table. Hmm, make that 30k.

by maxwell edison

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The World Series of Poker is held at the Horseshoe Casino in Las Vegas.

We could have a World Series of Q&A at the water cooler in TechRepublic forums.

You have a great advantage, however, if we're playing "table stakes". You've got all the chips!

by cactus pete

OK, I'll limit everyone at the table to using only their buyin points - even me.

Maybe TR can work out a deal with PartyPoker.com to get a 'fake money' table set up for just TR members? We can put some of our virtual points to use there, perhaps.

by oz_media

Yet we are still expected to PAY for tech pro guild. How about a staggered system, 10000 points you get X% off your TPG membership, 25000 points you get X of the membership costs, 50000 points and it is free. Or at least SOMETHING!

We are asked again and again, yet nothing happens.

by oz_media

No Max, you know very well I don't remember that. Plus I was living in England who was STILL recovering from her own recession, WWII.
As for cars, my mom had a mini, my dad a Morris Minor (seemed like a MASSIVE car there! We even widened the driveway) I saw one out here and it barely topped a miniature econobox!

by maxwell edison

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A friend of mine in high school had a Morris Minor. I wasn't driving in the 1960s, as I didn't get my license until 1969, but I did pump gas (full service - what's that?) all throughout high school. (When it was okay for a "child" to work.)

by cactus pete

Max, you should keep that to yourself, don't go around tell Oz that you're dating yourself...

by maxwell edison

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I just posted some (hopefully) interesting, albeit irrelevant, tidbits. I never said that I was "dating myself".

And when Oz said that I was, I just ignored it as yet another inaccurate speculation that he has become known for.

Dating myself????? Never.

(Of course, perhaps Oz, in his backwoods hideout, is indeed dating (as well as other things) himself. But I wouldn't know.

by jardinier

I joined TR about 18 months ago. Without participating in Technical Q & A at all, my Tech points continued to rise. It appeared to me that I was gaining merit from starting and/or participating in general discussions.

Then some time ago (afer the first TR revamp) my Tech points score remained static, until I started to participate occasionally in Technical Q & A. (both questions and answers). And then my score started rise again.

Can anyone else remember earning Tech points without participating in Technical Q & A?

by nd_it

I seem to remember that as well. I joined TR in 2000, but didn't participate much in the discussions and Q & A until this last year. But I remember looking at my points thinking that was quite I few I had.

Does anyone remember how many TR gave you once you signed up?

by maxwell edison

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Points given just to sign up - 500, I think.

Points given to read (click on) an article - 5, I think.

Points given to download something - 20, I think.

Points given to participate in a survey - 20, I think.

Points given to "refer" another mamber - 500, I think.

There are probably more, but I don't recall them all.

I don't know if these things still apply, but they used to, at one time.

by thechas

Max,

You also used to get points just for logging on to either Tech Republic, or Builder.com

The current point awards per the Tech Point section of the Help link are:

Action Number of TechPoints
? Register for membership. 500
? Vote in a user poll. 250
? Fill out a survey. 500
? Post a technical answer to a question in
our Technical Q&As. Variable credit based on questioner's rating and number of points initially assigned to question
? Close a Technical Q&A question and rate the answers. 1000
* Please note the TechPoints program has changed; you do not receive TechPoints for actions you may have earned for in the past

Chas

by tomsal

They once had a point sheet (haven't looked for it in years) that outlined how you get points.

You get points, or I should say, you DID get points for reading and rating TR staffer articles, participating in discussions and of course the whole Q&A thing.

I still think its amazing -- I bring this up EVERYTIME I talk in a discussion about tech points because I think its funny on one hand and so underhanded on the other....

They (they being TechRepublic of course) explicitly posted clear as day on their site long ago that techpoints could actually be used towards tangible merchandise. It was originally one of the reasons I started using the site (that and they do have some semi-helpful articles on here), I thought it was cool. Then somewhere between then and now...I guess a big wig at TR reamed the staff a new one for suggesting merchandise for techpoints because all of a sudden *poof* all TR employees pretend to play dumb on the topic and say "what? we never said that"...ooook...yes I'm that desparate for *another* mug with a company logo on it that I'm making this up....rrrrright!

The techpoints are stupid. flat out worthless...I don't know why people pay any creed to them. If they aren't good for anything...what is the draw (besides say my points are more than yours) to someone giving me 5 or 5million points to answer a question?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I think its pointless.

Also to be honest, this site ranks fairly low in my opinion on well answered or even well explained and technically accurate answers given. Its not my first site by far to bring a major question I have related to technology.

Some of the responders truely sound like they are without a clue. I wonder if they are even in the field sometimes.

Note: I said *SOME* not all, there are a few on here that I value your input because its been correct before when I asked them something.

by jardinier

Yes, I agree that the Tech Points are pretty meaningless, unless I suppose for someone who wants to award a lot of points for a difficult question.

However I have my own contacts for technical support, both for Windows and Mac (and Linux/Unix also if I used these, which I don't).

Anyhow I just have to ask one more question and close it, which will take my trifling score to 10K+, which will be listed beside my alias in discussions.

Now if TR listed your ACTUAL score (say 300 K +) with each posting, then perhaps it might serve some purpose because people would immediately know that you have an extensive technical knowledge.

Personally I think that this niggardly website (are you reading this powers-that-be?) should give some real incentive to earn points by offering REAL gifts to high point-scorers.

These could include:
Pay a year's subscription for your ISP;
Useful software of your choice;
A desktop computer for, say, 100,000 tech points;
A laptop computer for 200,000 tech points;
A wirless laptop with combo CD/DVD drive for 300,000 points.

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