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Question to all the Liberals -- Instead of Bush bashing, provide solutions

By Garion11 ·
If I am the average American looking to vote this November, why should I pick you Mr. Kerry? What would you do to keep American people safe and secure? How would you do it differently? What are some of the exact solutions you would provide? What is your stance on domestic issues such as Tax care, medical benefits, education, Terrorism (international as well as domestic).

I am all ears. Please, any liberals looking to contribute, please feel free, I would love to hear what you have to say about these issues. Instead of Bush bashing, why don't you provide some constructive solutions on these real and important issues?

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Not that I care to be labeled a "Liberal"

by Cactus Pete In reply to Question to all the Liber ...

But wouldn't all those answers be found on his website?

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Well I want to hear it from people who are going to vote for him

by Garion11 In reply to Not that I care to be lab ...

Because if you are a liberal, you should know answers to these important questions. You should have some kind of solution. I am not just talking about Kerry, but the left overall SHOULD have something constructive instead of this constant criticism.

If you do have something, I wanna hear it because in order for me to debate something I need to see your side of the story/solution/answer etc.

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Why not

by Cactus Pete In reply to Well I want to hear it fr ...

...just present your understanding of your side, and let the debate begin?

Do you have all the answers to those questions for whomever your candidate is? And did you happen to get those answers from his website, or do you just intuit them?

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No I don't have answers

by Garion11 In reply to Why not

What I have are questions, cause all I see is Bush bashing from the Democrats and the immediate populace. Since we already KNOW where and what Bush is doing (or we claim we all do) I'd like to hear the OTHER side of the story. WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY? HOW would the liberals protect America and her interests? Whats the stance on Domestic issues? Give me specifics if possible, like cost, man power etc...

Please give me constructive solutions, I really don't care for Bush, lets just assume he is a lying sack of shi*. So now, lets hear your side of the coin/equation. I am all ears.

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My point is...

by Cactus Pete In reply to No I don't have answers

From what side ARE you coming? I'm not actually interested in arguing FOR Kerry against anyone - but I might argue against something I truly don't like. So, if you don't like Bush, who's your man? What are YOUR positions, and that of your chosen candidate?

I just don't think it's fair, cool, or whatever, to say "I don't like Kerry - someone come here to argue him with me." Go ahead and throw in the parameters, not necessarily all the details at this point, and maybe then someone can more intelligently debate.

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I'm probably voting for Michael Badnarik.

by admin In reply to Well I want to hear it fr ...

To me that seems like the best choice thus far. We'll see as it gets closer, maybe something will sway me.

:)

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So would I - but. . . .

by maxwell edison In reply to I'm probably voting for M ...

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...I would be shooting myself in the foot, since he doesn't even have a snowball's chance (in ****) of winning.

One must ask, therefore, which of the two candidates who DO have a chance of winning come closest to this guy?

There ya' go.

(Hint: It ain't John Kerry.)

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So would I - but. . . .

by maxwell edison In reply to I'm probably voting for M ...

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...I would be shooting myself in the foot, since he doesn't even have a snowball's chance (in ****) of winning.

One must ask, therefore, which of the two candidates who DO have a chance of winning come closest to this guy?

There ya' go.

(Hint: It ain't John Kerry.)

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I understand, but I'm probably voting for Michael Badnarik

by admin In reply to So would I - but. . . .

Sure, I understand that in one way you really might as well vote for someone that can win. On the other hand I have talked to SOOO many people who have said that. In my quick non-official estimate of people I have talked to, over 10% of voters would vote for Michael Badnarik if they thought he had a snowballs chance of winning.

Now, if all of those people actually voted for him would he win? No. But would they win as voters? YES! Why do I say yes? Well it is because if ANY candidate gets over 10% of the vote, the media will pick it up and both existing parties will start to lean as much as they can in the direction of that voting population. A vote for Bush or Kerry ensures the current system will continue as it is. A vote for Michael Badnarik will, however, send a clear message that there are people in America who want change of a specific type. Even though he will not win, the Republican camp for sure will look at what the trend is and how many people voted for him and where possible they will try and lean that way to capture future voters. In this way I believe that my vote will actually count for MORE than a winning vote for Bush would. If it was going to be a close election, I may think differently, but I see no possible way Kerry will win anyway, so a vote for Michael Badnarik is my best possible way of getting attention for truly Libertarian issues and a leaner government in Washington.

My candidate may not win this battle, but every vote towards the Libertarians will help win the war- even if it just gets the other parties back on track. To me, many votes for Michael Badnarik most probably means a better Bush administration- and that's worth my vote. :)

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It's the old "catch-22"

by maxwell edison In reply to I understand, but I'm pro ...

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Admin - I absolutely understand, I truly do. But it's the old "catch-22".

On one hand, the Libertarian Party cannot become a major player without a lot of real support. But on the other hand, a trickling of support from year to year might (probably will) result in a person's LEAST desirable candidate being elected.

But should a person vote with his heart, or vote with his head?

When the Libertarian platform starts to receive some serious consideration among the voting public, or when the Libertarian Party starts to win a number of seats in the US House or the Senate, I'll reconsider. (Of course, it's the same "catch-22" here as well, because we, or at least I, don't want the Democrats to become the majority party in either chamber of Congress.)

You see, I personally blame myself for Bill Clinton getting elected in 1992. I accept full and total responsibility. It was I who did it. No one to blame but me. I was a sell-out and a fool. I let my emotions get the better of me. My reason took a vacation. By better-judgement took the day off. My logic became scrambled. Why? Because I voted for Ross Perot - just because I was ticked off at George Bush Sr.

It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Never again. I learned my lesson.

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