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I always thought of the Q&A section of this site as an EXCELLENT IT resource. The opinons and answers given are invaluable to IT staff and end users everywhere.

Recently, I think people are abusing the 'service' that is provided to them by the Q&A forum.
ie: A recent question was from a supposed IT administrator who was wondering why the Telezapper doesn't work on digital lines (even though telezapper folks said it wouldn't).
Having a psat in the telecom industry, I wrote a somewhat lengthy explanation of how digital lines carry signals compared to analog lines and WHY telezaper doesn't work, apart from being illegal for use in Canada.
After writing the answer, I noticed he had only assigned 35 points to the question, Oh well, I always say points aren't worth much anyhow, he had a legitinate question and this is the place to look for help.
Nobody else answered the question and it was eventually closed and REJECTED! I guess it wasn't the response he wanted (how to make telezapper work on digital lines)which can't be done, but it was the facts.

Feeling quite stupid for answering the question in the first place, I wondered if this is common or if anyone else has had similar experiences.
I would also like to hear any suggestions as to YOUR screenig methods if any before answering a Q&A.

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by jimhm

It could of been just the right answer - but it is up to the poster to accept or reject all posts. Maybe Tech republic should set a standard that anyone that posts to a Q/A gets 10 points just for adding a post.

But then - you can post BS to allQ/a's and get thousand points for nothing.. Hum maybe the Q/A author has to award the points offered... Then again what happens if none of the answers fix their problme...

I guess its just a matter of risk - some people are like that = others will award the points..

Got to roll with the punches..

by oz_media

you have an extremely valid point and I agree 100% BUT...

this person closed the question, that wasn't really a question more than a search for information. Th epoint value was pathetic but the guy had a relevant question nobody else had answered. There was no 'possible' answer, just the facts on why somemthing doesn't work. It wasn't like someone had a tsk bar problem or desktop issue that had several possible solutions. One question, one answer, there is NO other explanation or solution.

Just somebody digging for info and running away.
Is this common or new to TR?

by jimhm

It appears to becoming common place - I guess the word is out at these trade schools that you can get some pretty good information for your homework - at techrepublic..

I think we will just have to watch out for the Newbee's - those under 5K in points..

by maxwell edison

It used to bother me, and I must admit that is still does at times, but it's just part of the gig.

I went on a rampage answering questions some time ago, but I've slowed down to a trickle. In most cases, the answers I posted resulted in a win-win, as I learned something and helped myself at the same time. Half the questions I answered were on subjects that I was very familiar with and thought I could lend a hand. But the other half were on subjects and issues that I was unsure of myself, but was researching for consideration. For example, before I upgraded to Windows 2000 Professional on my workstations and Windows 2000 Server, I would, even though I didn't initially know the answer, research the issue and post an answer (many times the correct one) so I was better positioned to deal with the issues when I was confronted with them myself. Exchange Server is another example, and I got pretty knowledgeable on common problems, even though I eventually decided against using it.

To be sure, there are those who reject perfectly good answers (at times all of the good answers) just to avoid passing out a few lousy points. But these are the same folks who will flip you the bird after THEY cut you off in traffic. All you can do is not let it ruin your day - or your moment.

by jim phelps

I agree with all that has been posted in this discussion.

Please don't go "over the brink" by no longer posting. (Uh oh, I hope I haven't got the Eveready Bunny running here!) Even if people are cheap and take your help without giving the points they promised, know that you are helping lots of people, including yourself. Don't let these turkeys spoil a great website - TechRepublic.

As far as my screening methods, if I have any doubts, I might ask for some more information about the problem. Depending on their response to that, I will either answer some more, or move to another discussion.

For example, someone said that he wanted to learn how to program. I couldn't figure out if he wanted a suggested solution to a specific programming problem, or if he wanted a full-blown programming course. I asked him for some more information, but he came back with exactly the same original question -- no specifics, simply "I want to learn to program" (or something like that). I moved on, and I haven't been back to that discussion.

When the question seems REALLY DUMB, I try to remember how it was with me, when I knew hardly anything and I was asking dumb questions. I was glad when someone tried to help me, so I try to help this person.

by thechas

You have to be willing to help without regard to how your answer is accepted.

Some other questions that I often answer that get rejected because I cannot tell the peer what they want to hear:

How can I send a FAX using my DSL or Cable connection?

How do I convert PDF files to Word files?

How do I use a USB device when my PC does not have a USB port?
I'm running Windows NT or 95A!

Give me the name of a free ISP with NO time restrictions.

Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

As time goes on, I become a bit more selective as to what questions I attempt to answer.

A poorly worded question from User Deleted may not be answered.

I basically rely on 'gut' feel. If I think I can help the peer, I do.

Chas

by oz_media

I agree, and if I can, I will help ANYBODY ANYTIME with almost ANYTHING. It me (as most people) feel good about pitching in where I can.

The post I was referring to specifically was just poorly handled by the poster. I've often seem similar or exact same answers to mine be accepted while mine was rejected, Oh well, c'est la vie.

This one just seemed to push by buttons though.
Almost like the guy who wants to know how to calculate the 10meg file over the 100mbps T-1 circuit, do your ownhomework, read and comprehend! I did. (But unfortunately someone already answered it for him).

Thanks for your 2C guys, I appreciate your feedback, I was just feeling stupid for helping someone with what I considered a relevant and worthhwile question for an irrelevant 35 points that weren't handed out, to anyone! :-)

by jardinier

Whilst my IT skills are relatively limited, I am able to provide adequate answers to some Technical Q & As. It takes no more time than writing a posting to a general discussion, and you have the chance of picking up a few points along the way.
I note also Maxwell's answer in that sometimes a Q & A prompts him to do some research which benefits him personally.

by timwalsh

This has been happening since I first started with TR a few years ago.

It seems that there are people out there who insist on getting something for nothing (even though the points don't cost the poster anything, and really aren't worth anythingto the person answering). All that apparently matters is that the "person" asking the question has "beat the system."

Sometimes, it's really difficult to ascertain ahead of time which posters will try to skip on awarding points for a correct answer.

Personally, I stay away from questions that are obviously either homework or test questions. I also stay away from questions that run against moral or legal boundaries. Questions that could be easily answered with a simple search on , I will partially answer by running a search and giving them key words to use in their own search. Usually, you just never know who will or won't award points.

Besides the obvious freeloaders, there are those who just don't understand how to award points or close a question properly. There are those (who you apparently found) who won't award points unless they get the exact answer they want. There are even those who will reject all answers but still comment something along the lines of "Thanks, that really helped!" (that takes some of the sting out of it).

What really makes up for all the freeloaders, et. al. is the few posters who actually take the time to send a personal email thanking you for helping them out of a really tough situation.

by thechas

What bothers me more than peers who reject answers that are not what they want to hear, is peers who post technical questions in the discussion forum.

Unless I am in a particularly generous mood, or see a bad suggestion posted, I usually let questions in the discussion forum sit for a day before I answer them.

Chas

by oz_media

Yesterday I was thinking the exact same thing.
I saw several threads that should be Q&A's.
I then posted my request about Tiny Url's in the discussion forum without even thinking about it SORRY GUYS, STEPPED ON MY D*^K AGAIN!!

by tomsal

...and I've been using this site since it was pretty much founded.

To my own defense though, I used to be "strict" on how I used the site - I never used discussion forums for questions for the better part of an entire year straight on this site.But then, slowly, it seems that word got out about TR - what used to be (or seemed to be) 80% of all users being *real* IT professionals, seems to have dropped to about a 50/50 ratio (50% are honest IT professionals/50% are just people coming to getfree info on anything that you plug into an outlet).

Anyway - to get to the point the discussion forums were discovered by me to provide more in-depth, accurate and many times more serious information/solutions than the Q/A forum ever has been.
For whatever reason, my experience has been in the discussion forums it seems that technical questions/problems are addressed and taken more seriously than in the Q/A forums.

And since that TechRepublic lied about the points being worth something tangible, the points really have no value. So really then, what is "the point" to the Q/A forums?

lol.

by joseph moore

Myself, I find that my interest level is beginning to wane somewhat. I've been posting here for almost 2 years now, and I can say the novelty has gone.
I know, it is a sad thing, but it is, I admit, true.
And it is only over the past couple of months that I feel this way. For a long time, I could not wait to check the board to see what questions had been posted. I looked forward to slow times at the office, so I could browse the list and answer questions. It was a mixture of helping folks out, learning stuff myself, and being able to solve this problem. Solving the problem is what is most important to me. I LOVE fixing things, which is why I was so obsessive about this board!
I couldn't get enough of it, acutally. I would dial up at 3AM on a Sunday, answer questions, when I could not sleep. Hell, sometimes I could not sleep because of a question I had read that I could not find an answer for!
Yes, I needed help.
Now, after 2299 questions, the fire is, I admit, no longer a ragingflame.
So I find that I am very selective in what I try to answer. I have given up on the "how to network Win9x and NT/2K/XP" questions. I still post for the "lost admin password", but I just post a link to the Pnordahl web page.
It really comesdown to, is the question unintelligible? Can I make sense of what is being asked? If not, then I don't bother.
It is not that I don't care anymore, it is just that I have posted the same answers to the same questions for too long. Apathy, I guess.

by jackofalltech

My most recent aggravation was similar. Although I answered the question completely, the next day the poster increased the point value WITHOUT rating my answer. The last time I checked, it was still open.
I don't answer stupid questions. Sometimes I chide people for being lazy and not doing ANY simple research themselves. Oh well...

Ralph

by djent

This is not an OEM support line and I don't feel compelled to ask if drive has power to it. If the poster doesn't know as much, nothing I can say will help and he should find professional help. If its dumb or off topic I ignor it.

by syadm

Hi all,

I think its wise to have a positive attitude preloaded when i read the questions.
I dont really care for the points as long as i have +5k to show off ;)
If someone "beats the system" and get an answer for nothin, well, all i hope is that the answer was useful.
This is still a part of the Internet where (in my world)information is freely sought and found.
And i like that freedom.
How about the rest of you?
Would you like like Internet to become a "pay-per-view" thingy?

BR /Tom

by leobloom

I agree. I use this site to search for answers. It drives me nuts when I find the question I am looking for and the answer was either autoclosed, not rated or rejected with no feedback. On two occasions I even tried answers that were rejected and they worked.

by cactus pete

You can see from http://tinyurl.com/en56 that it just happened to me, as well. It often does.

In this case, the answer should have been enough, given the question. Had the asker then clarified what he wanted, I could have demonstrated the concept of concatonation. Did Josh ever get this working? We'll never know why he closed the question... He never said if he managed to figure it out.

If more question posters knew to add comments, rather than flat out rejecting answers, many close suggestions would get fleshed out a bit and both sides would benefit. Oh well. Human nature, I suppose, causes so many to search for the fastest solution in spite of itself.

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