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but give the kids credit for being able to take care of themselves at such a young age.
by puppybreath
by faradhi
You need a license to drive but any idiot can have a child! Further, there are individuals that would actually be Parents that cannot have children of their own.
Of course, it does not surprise me. Parent have been abdicating their parental responsibilities for years. Parents expecting schools to teach about religion, drugs, sexual reproduction and proper behavior on top of Reading, Writing and Arithmetic OR the FCC to require V-Chips on new TVs so that their children will not see something they shouldn't because they don't want to monitor their own kids.
nevermind. I am just tired of seeing stuff like this.
by m_a_r_k
...if I knew how to defend myself, my sister, and our property, then I was good to go. Not that I agree with that assessment.
BTW, I just heard last night that one of the siblings in this case is autistic. As the parent of an autistic child myself, that really magnifies the unbelievable horror of what these parents have done.
by bfilmfan
I will purchase the ammunition. Please just tell me what caliber we need.
Frankly, I think they should throw these biological material providers (I refuse to call them parents as parents love, cherish and protect their children) into a very deep dark hole and leave them there...
by old guy
by cuteelf
This kind of stuff makes me sick.
But this is one incidnet that has been reported published and is worked on.
What about the ones that nobody hears about?
Sometimes I think we need a Personality test and IQ test AND classes for humans to reproduce.
FGS, doing the Horizontal Bop isnt that hard (and that gets screwed up too!)
Humans.
Gimme my damn Cisco router & network anyday.
Cute E
by gsteve
Hey, let's at least make some sport of this. Put these parents names each on a poker chip, throw the chips into a hat, and pull one out to decide who gets shot.
Wait, let's make it interesting...let's throw the name of the casino owner in there too.
Aww, let's make it even more interesting, let's put the name of the governor of nevada in there, and how about the commissioner of gaming? :)
Oh wait...their not responsible, are they? I'm sure they're just trying to make a living, too. Whatever!! They'll have some serious charges to answer to some day...
(I have to admit, I got this concept from Kent Hovind, who said we should do the same thing with people who decide to murder babies and unborn children)
by jdclyde
by old guy
It's not just California. It's Nevada, it's Mississippi, New Mexico, and any other state that has big time gambling. And, they're trying to add Arkansas to that.
This goes back to the fact that we're not supposed to "infringe" on anyone's rights to do whatever they want to. Well, we have to pay for the results of idiots and low-lifes like these parents not just in money but in the propagation of this type of behavior in the following generations. Yes, it does become a cycle of lifestyle in families.
by jdclyde
it is the midset of not being held accountable. Of having no standards on behavior. On "anything goes" as a way of life.
You can send a letter to the Democratic partys headquarters and a CC to the ACLU thanking them for lowering the standards of living in America.
There has been gambling on reservations for decades here in Michigan, but it wasn't until a few years ago that we opened non-indian owned gambling in Detroit and it is now concidered the new source of livelyhood there now that the auto industry isn't there anymore. I am such a big gambler, I don't even know where in Detroit they are at! (Hot Rocker Babes was a dealer at MGM)
by m_a_r_k
by old guy
by old guy
I have been involved in fighting them for a long time through some Christian and Family associations. I firmly believe they have sold their souls and are controlled by Satan himself!
This kind of thing really gets me fired up because there are so many people (especially the kids) who wind up being abused and being "disposable".
by gsteve
What would I really do? Well, I guess it depends on the response/reaction of the parents:
-if they were truly repentant (realized and admitted their wrong), I would personally forgive them, but they would still have to answer to the authorities (DHS, Police, whatever) for the laws that they broke.
-if they were unrepentant (in denial that what they did was wrong) - break out the whip. ]:)Ha...seriously, they are going to have to answer to the laws they broke (unless the father is OJ Simpson or Michael Jackson), but as a Christian, if it were someone I knew, I would cut ties with them.
Either way, since I don't know them, I'm probably going to do nothing. If I wanted to take an action, I would pray that God would convict their hearts, and lead them to admit their sins, ask forgiveness from their sins, and ask the Lord to help them turn away from their sinful lifestyles.
What would you do?
by gsteve
The unfortunate thing about googling him, is that you get one link to his site, and 10,000's of other sites of 'squeaky wheels' that hate him for the beliefs he holds.
Oh well...I'm sure he's not trying to impress anyone - and he speaks his mind without mincing words. Perhaps that's why there are so many people who don't like him?!
Anyways, unless you are looking to have your entire perspective on science altered, shook up, and turned upside-down, you probably don't want to hear what he has to say. :)
Actually, I was lying when I said that I'd never heard of him. During the famous EL thread's six-month, 2.5K post run, I researched Kent and his ilk as closely as I've ever researched anything (and I was a research scientist).
I guarentee that I know much, much more about Kent's ideas on science and creationist pseudoscience than you do and - more to the point - know very much more than I want to as most of it is dishonest. Oh, yes, he is trying to impress people by chicanery and dishonesty which is why there are 10,000 - you say "squeaky wheels" and I say angry scientists - against him.
Never mind. I don't want to rehash old arguments. I'm all done with creationists and ID.
As for the subject of this thread, I'm stuck on what to do. I don't know the full story, just the headlines. Assuming that the parents are not complete dead-losses, what I can't work out is how we punish these parents and make that punishment a deterrent against other parents doing this without punishing the children. Prison? Fines? I would hit the parents with some sort of major community work program, preferably with kids and - even better - with disabled kids for a period considerably longer than the time they left their own kids alone. Teach them what real care is about! I'd also make them serve their time on different days to each other.
Just my 2ps worth on two subjects.
Neil :)
by gsteve
Okay, I'll go with the "agree to disagree" standpoint, to avoid the endless back-and-forth arguments.
One thing I wish the authorities would make sure of: Do NOT let these people write a book in 6 months talking about themselves, blah blah blah...worst thing that could happen is that they get rich from being so foolish.
Hopefully this is something we can agree on :)
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