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Steelers or Seahawks

Let me begin the count with 1 for the Steelers

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by thechas

I was waiting for a Super Bowl thread to start.

Even after last years thread on the Suoer Bowl, I still don't understand what all the hype and fuss is about.

I mean really, what difference does it make in our lives who wins this silly game?

For that matter, why do we in the US spend so much time as sports spectators?

Why do we throw so much money and nearly worship these modern day gladiators?

Why do we care what some celebrity is up to in their private life?

Are our daily lives so devoid of challenge that we need to get vicarious thrills from the physical prowess of others?

Imagine what would happen if we invested 1/4 of the time the US spends on spectator sports digging into local and political issues and holding politicians and businesses responsible for their actions!

Chas

by jamesrl

I know you two have had your share of disagreements, but I might suggest Max, that if anyone else has posted the same, you would have still disagreed, but not read any kind of sense of superiority into it.

I don't follow sports the way many do. I did in my youth watch an awful lot of hockey and lacrosse (live and on TV), and I went to quite a few Blue Jays games before the strike. I went to Grey Cup game once, but only during a season when I attended a few CFL games.

But to me the Super Bowl is the climax of the season, and to me its sad how people have turned it into a standalone excuse to party, get drunk and cheer on a team that they have never followed during the season.

How many people will be watching their first game all year? How many people of those people even know the basic rules? So why then is this such a big deal? Its not like all these people were tracking the long road to the super bowl, following all the ups and downs, injuries and upsets.

I'm not suggesting people not enjoy themselves, I'm not elitist, but I am suggesting that the Super Bowl has less to do with football than many would suggest.

And I might even watch for the cool half time ads except the Canadian TV stations substitute their own.

James

by dugadugdug

Sports and entertainment in general provide an escape/distraction for people and provide relief from daily stress of regular day life. They can give fans a sense of belonging and also bring together diverse groups of people.

With that being said, my money is on Pittsburgh due to the fact of the Teams they had to beat to get to the Super Bowl as well as their 3/4 defense. Seattle has a chance but they didn't fare too well, meaning didn't dominate, this season when playing teams that used the 3/4 defense. Pittsburgh has the toughness and confidence that I like. I just hope for an entertaining game.

by thechas

I have leisure activities, and I play.

I just have never understood the attraction of watching sporting events. Especially professional sports.

If my memory serves me well, I've been to:

2 or 3 high school basketball games.

1 Harlem Globetrotters game.

1 football game.

1 hockey game

There is one benefit I get from watching sporting events on TV.

A GOOD NAP.

It does not matter what the sport is, if I end up sitting there when someone else is watching any sporting event, I am very soon sawing logs.

I suppose the fact that I was one of those tall skinney un-coordinated kids in school factors in to my lack of interest in spectator sports.

Like I said, I just cannot fathom the attraction, or understand the amount of attention that professional sports in general, and the super bowl in particular garner.

If the outcome of the game had some meaningful impact on our lifes, I could begin to understand the attraction.

A guy I work with watches the super bowl every year. He does not care a bit about the game itself. For him, it is all about the ads.

He does not understand why I would not want to see all of the wonderful commercials that might only appear that 1 time.

I have more enjoyable activities for myself than watching a bunch of millionaires playing a game in the employee of billionaires.

Chas

by jdclyde

with both!

I think when titlywinks championships come on in rainy town that we will have to return the compliment! B-)

by gadgetgirl

major importance?

what would that be then?

oh - making love.

Let me see. Steelers or Seahawks. Would they be your equivalent to Viagra and Ni-agra?

GG

]:)

by puppybreath

Yes you could call the Steelers the equivalent of Viagra for their stiff defense. And the Seahawks could be referred to as Ni-agra since they're all wet and washed up. ;-)

by jdclyde

would you like it stiff or from a wet smelly bird that will take off right away? :O

Steelers by 8" ;\

by dugadugdug

For us Canucks who get stuck during NFL games watching during breaks about the guy from Canadian Tire telling us about how we need to get the Simonize Water Pressure or Mastercraft exact fitting windshield wipers, take heed as Yahoo Video and others will have Super Bowl commericials at the ready shortly after they have aired on US stations, from what I read yesterday.

Speaking of which, did Canadian Tire guy get divorced as I don't see his wife anymore in the commercials?

by jamesrl

I read a Toronto Star article about commericial charecters and branding, and it frankly got me totally steamed. I need to be on a focus group or something.

They suggested that the Canadian Tire couple were effective (yet another incompetant husband/bitchy wife scene, which they have dramatically toned down), and also that the Keith's yelling scotsman was effective. It was effective at me hating Keith's ads, I am soooo tired of yelling Scotsman (Keiths, that Gum ad, the Nutragrain ad). I might just have to find another brand of beer. If I met someone like that in a bar in Nova Scotia, I might have to renounce my viturous non-violent ways and forget all the discipline that the martial arts taught me and just whup some butt.

But I really reserve my ire for those marketing idiots who think we are so stupid as to like this cr@p.

James

by jdclyde

it is a matter of you REMEMBERING.

If they can get you to remember the brand name, it does influince the purchases of the weak willed people in the world, which is a friggen lot of people.

by cactus pete

The history between the two teams leans more towards the Seahawks, as they have dominated the Steelers in the last 5 match ups or so.

HOWEVER, the type of playing lately gives a slight edge to the Steelers, who we all know are the better team, so there ya go.

There won't likely be a blowout unless there is some sort of injury early in the game. It might seem to get out of hand for a while, but the ending will likely be close.

Still need to find my towel.

by wojnar

I have this Honolulu Blue and silver one that has never been used. At least it can salute the host facility. Growing up the only professional sports team we didn't have was a football team - we had the Lions.

Thank goodness there was always University of MEEEEEchigan football !

by jdclyde

this year, and I probably won't watch the whole thing this weekend either.

I go to superbowl parties because it is a chance to socialize, not because I am a football fan.

as for the ads, they are suppose to ALL be available on-line right after the game is done.

no, I will not be drunk either.

by kaceyr

They're gonna win and all you Steelers fans are going to be lookin' at one another saying "what the f*** happened??!!??"

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Either that or chowing down on Crow will make for an awful finish to my evening. ;)

by kaceyr

... so the evening wasn't a total loss!

Ah well. There's always next years attempt! :)

by wojnar

I agree, as a sport, football can't compare to hockey but we don't have a professional hockey team here in the 'Burgh - we only have the Penguins.

I am sure Don Cherry would agree - that is enough reason to watch football.

by jaqui

and hockey?
and football?
[ translation: I don't watch, or follow, any pro sport ]

by sterling "chip" camden

If they weren't playing against the Seahawks, I would definitely root for Pittsburgh. But the Seahawks are my team, and besides that, I think they can win it.

by puppybreath

and since it makes so much sense, let's take it a couple of steps further:

Have you noticed how much time and money is wasted on all of the multi-millionaire musicians? I can't understand why anyone would waste their hard earned dollars on mindless noise when those dollars could be spent on charities. Imagine how long you could feed one homeless person just from the money you'd spend on one Stones ticket. And think of all the money wasted on instruments that children use and then discard. More wasted dollars we could find a good use for.

And what benefit is there really from smoking or drinking? If we banned smoking and drinking, imagine all of the money we would have available for medical research. Not to mention how much healthier everyone in the world would be.

And movies are a complete waste of time! They are all just fantasies put together by more multi-millionaires who want to take your hard earned cash for their own selfish needs. If we took all of the money wasted on going to the movies (including that large tub of buttered popcorn and red licorice whips) and add to it the millions and millions of dollars that studios spend to produce and merchandise their movies, we could house, clothe, and feed all of the unfortunate individuals out there.

See, just a few minor changes and we've saved the world! Of course, no one would want to live there but it's for the benefit of everyone and we have ways of changing their minds.

by thechas

I don't believe I called for the elimination of the super bowl, or of spectator sports.

I just cannot comprehend why they are so important in so many peoples lives.

However, I think that we in the US do need to evaluate our priorities and the value we place on most forms of entertainment.

As I said in my first post, if we spent 1/4 of the effort tracking local issues and politics as is spent on sports, there would be a revolution of accountability in both government and business.

There are many spectator activities that I might enjoy, but have decided that they are not worth the going rate in the market to me.

Concerts: Havn't been to one in years.
There are many groups and bands I would like to see. But, I am not willing to pay the going rate for tickets.

Movies: Again, the going ticket price is just too high for the value I get from watching a movie.

Cable TV: I would be willing to pay up to $10 a month for basic service. (Fat chance of that happening) It does not matter what the content is, or how many channels their are. I just won't get more than $10 a month of value from cable. So that is all I am willing to pay.

And thats the root problem, the marketers and entertainment companies have enough people hooked on the entertainment that the cost isn't important to them. So long as they raise the prices slow enough, people just keep on paying.

I'm not saying take away the super bowl. I just want to understand why so many people pay more attention to a game that has no impact on their lives than they do to local elections which have a signifgicant impact on their lives.

If you enjoy it, go ahead and watch the game. Root for your favorite team.
But, let's keep in mind that the outcome doesn't really matter.

Chas

by puppybreath

it's because people need a release from the problems being caused by the politicians and special interest groups.

Do you really believe that getting involved in local politics will make a difference?

It doesn't matter which party you support, sooner or later the special interest groups will get to enough politicos to get what they want.

Call it bribes or campaign contributions or whatever, politicians are all people and people can be corrupted.

You speak of watching a bunch of millionaires playing a game and what a waste of time it is. How about putting that into a political anaolgy since many of our Congressmen are also millionaires?

We're all watching a bunch of millionaires come up with ways to beat the system so they can spend our money and serve the special interest groups who will fund their next campaign so they don't have to work for a living.

Sorry, I'd rather watch football.

by wojnar

I understand your point but a large number (not the majority would be my guess) DO follow local politics, get involved with charities, contribute to their churches, try to make the world a better place.

The thing about the Steelers is that they are very active in the community, very up front about their faith and do not just grab all the glory they can. They represent the average working man in a blue collar town. They do their job as best they can and are not affected by the praise they get for doing it. Bill Cowher was very sincere when he told Mr Rooney - 'This is for you'. All the Steelers are a class act (even Joey Porter who can get a little carried away when speaking into a mic is a man of integrity).

One for the Thumb - mission accomplished !

by jdclyde

and the half time show of the Stones is horrible!

Glad I didn't have to pay to hear this! horrible, awful, and terrible.

Of course there will be those of you that are emotional about the stones and will enjoy hearing them even when they sound so horrible!

oh thank goodness! they are done!

Mind you, justine and jannet weren't any better. britny and tyler was better.

how about that first touch done by the steelers? my bud almost had a heart attack when they challenged it! :D

I agree with neil, yawn yawn yawn.... I must not be drinking enough beer?

by jdclyde

Really pleased with the way the game turned out.

pit takes it, 21 to ten, and i called it by ten. off by one. drat.

by wojnar

But in some ways appropriate - no one real hero, no single effort outstanding. Good solid team play. The parade should be fun - there are people already getting in place more than 24 hours ahead of time !

Hope the Lions were watching and getting some pointers. Maybe they will be contenders next year.

by wojnar

For me it is just an excuse for getting together with friends.

(a Canadian who doesn't live for hockey ???? alert the media !)

by maxwell edison

Disclaimer: I am neither a Steeler fan nor a Seahawk fan.

The Seattle Seahawks did not lose fair and square, but rather by err and despair -- by the officials, that is. That game's officiating was TERRIBLE! To take away an obvious Seattle touchdown was bad enough, but then to turn around and give a touchdown to Pittsburgh -- one that was VERY questionable, at best -- made this the worst travesty of officiating in Super Bowl history -- IF NOT IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE NFL!

Geesh, Louise, why not just gift-wrap a football and hand it to Roethlisberger on a silver platter and call it a touchdown? The only touch-down I saw is when the official "touched" Roethlisberger "down" there by kissing his ..... (Be nice, Max).

Shoeless Joe Jackson and company with their Black Sox scandal has now been joined in infamous infamy by the Gutless Black and White Sucks scandal of 2006. The Pittsburgh Steelers were pre-anointed champions, even before the coin flip; and the officials in that game made sure it happened.

I'm not going to say that the game was fixed, but there was more bias in that game than in a friggin' Michael Moore movie.

(And the fact that I picked the Steelers to win proves my impartiality)

https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=189022&messageID=1941444

(Yes, I did bet $$$ on the game -- but it still was bad -- VERY BAD.)

by sterling "chip" camden

I am a Seahawks fan, but I also try to avoid blaming the officiating. I usually take it as part of the game, and believe that the real winner will prevail over any incidental effect of the officials. However, in this superbowl I think it is quite possible that 14 points against Seattle were scored by the officials rather than the players. Truly disappointing, because I was really looking forward to a good match, no matter who won.

by cactus pete

The replay clearly showed the ball break the plane of the goalline.

The first call on the field, probably shouldn't have been for a touchdown, but the replay showed it to be true anyway.

The Seahawks lost their game, almost like the receiver didn't want to keep both feet inbounds. But they had chances and blew them.

The Steelers actually played worse than normal, too. But less worse (eww grammar) than the Seahawks.

I'm pleased. I'm biased, but I have eyes. Ben got the points.

by smorty71

I didn't have as many problems with the calls last night. Mainly because most (not all) were technically penalties. The question was whether they should have called them in the Super Bowl.

The two biggest questionable calls were:

1. Darrell Jackson TD -- Jackson pushed off and he did it right in front of one of the official. It was definitely a penalty and I think, in that case, it has to be called. The official is 10 ft. away and staring right at him. If he needs to push off, he needs to do a better job at hiding it.

2. Holding call on Seattle -- Many are also upset at the holding call that negated the pass to Jeremy Stevens that would have put Seattle on the 2 yard line (instead, Seattle threw a pick on the next play). The offensive lineman for Seattle did hook Hagans as he came around the end (he doesn't have to grab his jersey for it to be holding). Again, it's a question of should it be called in the Super Bowl. In that case, I think it should have been. Hagans would have probably sacked Hasselbeck.

Two calls that I think were totally missed were:
1. Low block call against Hasselbeck -- they just screwed that one up completely. He went low to tackle, not to block anyone.

2. Stevens fumble -- in the first quarter, Jeremy Stevens caught a pass, took three steps and then had the ball knocked away. Refs called it an incomplete pass when it was really a fumble. Two Steelers were chasing the ball down and would have recovered deep in Seattle territory.

Like any other game, there were missed calls. I just don't think that the ones people are making the biggest deals about were actually bad calls.

by cactus pete

And I'm suprised Seattle didn't red flag that. But I think you had the direction backwards (I'm happy to be corrected). I thought the ball continued on a path in favor of the Seahawks.

Had the call be contested, the refs would have had to spot the ball where it went out of bounds, and was last in control by the Seahawks... Good position for them!

I called that when it happened. It was CLEARLY a catch in the replays. I just wonder what the rules were then. The Steelers were certainly going to recover, but stopped pusuit when the play was whistled dead. I think that's why Pittsburgh let it go.

by jdclyde

the funny one?

Lions. Not while the front office stays the same. A championship team costs too much. They are only interested in doing well enought to fill the seats, and not a bit more.

We will be the whipping boys again next year.

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