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Sorry guys (and gals) but I couldn't let this week go by without getting a thread in on the Super Bowl, I know I'll probably get slammed by all non-US folks (I understand many outside of the US just don't get our style of "football").

However I live in a suburb of Philadelphia and have cheered for the Eagles for my whole life. The last time they went to the bowl (and lost) I was just about 6 years old...so yeah..its pretty big if you are an NFL fan...but HUGE if you are an NFL EAGLES fan this year..

GO EAGLES!!! :)

thanks for allowing me to rant about the game..

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by fonken monken uk

Buch of fully grown men wondering round in enough pads for an automotive crash test centre.
Bunch of girls!!!
The 6 nations rugby is kicking off over here this weekend. That, my friend, is a proper game! Non of this 5 yard, 10 yard "He's made 4 yards in that last down" nonsense! There's only 1 lot yards in Rugby, and its 22!
And what is it? 4 hours those games last? Whats allegedly gruelling about that?! Those big chaps get to have a break every 5 minutes! Rugby is 80 minutes of HELL!!!! and whats more, its played in mud!! Rugby players dont worry about getting theor kit dirty! Nor brain damage and associated sprains!

Do you guys call it football because of the units used to measure the pitch? I mean, its not like the ball gets kicked much!

OK, p1ss take over!

by jdclyde

First, using pads to reduce injuries is a sign of INTELLEGENCE. After watching your pigs roll in the mud for 80 minutes, that probably isn't the first word to come to mind.

We have better cheerleaders too! Woo Woo! (I like girls)

Now that I have that out of my system, I have to say I bet your games are the biggest party going. Sounds like fun!

oink oink! : >

by fonken monken uk

Yeah, its fun rolling in the mud! Often Rugby is referred to the thinking mans game, unlike football (proper, soccer to you US guys) which really really isnt. Just watch a post match, in the tunnel interview with a football and a rugby player and the difference is startling.

OK, you got something with the cheerleaders!! NO FAIR!!!

Also unlike football/soccer, its often said that with rugby all the violence is on the field, not in the stands. You'll never see a rugby crowd getting violent, more likely sleeply having consumed too much real ale.

As for intelligence, well, before rugby was made a pro sport, most of the team was made up of doctors, lawyers, wealthy business types, solicitors, you name it!

by jdmercha

I'd like to know the injury rate of the NFL compared to Pro Rugby. It seems to me that all that padding in the NFL just means you can hit people harder, and hit them with plastic paddding which is much harder than a human body.

by tomsal

I knew it was coming...lol...

Anyway..truth be told I personally wouldn't want to be hit by either a pro Rugby player or someone in the NFL (except for maybe those wussie Pats...OOOOOOH damn.....did I say that? just kidding)...

Anyway...Its all good fun...I'm more an NHL fan, but for obvious reasons that's out this year...so my enthusiasm for sports is fully planted in the NFL this year and now that the Eagles made it (about damn time)..its extra "cool".

I truly hope its a good game and not a route by either team...seeing a super bowl that is so one-sided is beyond all levels of BORING.

by jdmercha

Orignially US football did not include the forward pass. And it was a lot more common to score by kicking the ball. I think it was a bit closer to Austrailian rules football.

by smorty71

There was a rugby club at my university and many of my friends played. One year, a top football player (who was known for his loud-mouth, tough-guy attitude) at the university joined the club. After half of a practice, he quietly went to the sidelines, got his stuff and limped away without making a peep.

What I loved about rugby was that during the match it was a war; however, after the match, both teams went to the nearest bar and drank lots and lots (and lots) of beer together. I wasn't much interested in the former, but I gladly participated in the latter.

by jamesrl

Bigger field, fewer downs, more passes, better football.

I've been to a Grey Cup game(Canadian championship). Its often not the most interesting game of the year. Long lines up for food, washrooms and you get a better sense of the play on TV.

I will watch the super bowl. I will complain that the Canadian broadcasters will not show the big "super bowl" ads, but subsitute Canadian ads, even on US TV stations - this normally doesn't bother me except that the Super Bowl ads are often creative and controversial.

James

by jdclyde

After getting bitten last year, they have already backed out of several adds that could even remotely be seen as controversial.

I expect it to be very "family oriented" this time.

by fonken monken uk

what? Not another Wardrobe (in no way planned, whatsoever, no, honest, it really wasn't) Malfunction?

aww....s'the best bit!

by atxstranger

Thank goodness they have yanked some of the controversial ads. Not because I would have been offended, but because that means I don't have to see Mickey Rooney's backside...

by house

Nuff said.

So... I posted a Hockey thread about three months ago and nobody seemed to care. Am I the only one who prefers hockey over baseball and football (not soccer)?

Can't knock the soccer though... World Cup beats any other competion or championship in my world... even the Olympic Games. I would eventually like to see a Canadian team qualify though. :)

World Cup = $$$. I almost got nailed last time around with all of the upsets. France got me early, but I played the odds carefully after that and came out on top in the end.

by tomsal

But since there is no season this year (god that sucks, I was going to get season tickets this year with my bro-in-law too)...I attached to my second sport...american football.

Trust me when the NHL is on, I look at NFL games and just go "Oh cool a game is on" and I can take it or leave it. But when its not on (like now) I actively been looking for games.

PS. Its still awesome the birds made it to the bowl though..lol.

by jdclyde

Sorry bud, but the eagles are going to disapoint you AGAIN. Buaaahaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I have already grabbed out video projector from work so I can get some full wall action going!!!

(just wish it was on Sat instead of Sun so we could have a day to sleep it off)

by tomsal

It'll be a good game, I know Brady is a great QB, but truth be told let's look at some FACTS..

Both the PATS super bowl wins were field goals.

- That means they aren't perfect

They were beat in regular season by of all teams this year...the Dolphins...

- That means they can be beat

lol.

Finally...I just hope that Brady gets the snot knocked out of him (not for permanent injury, just hurt enough to take him out of the game..Monday I hope he feels fine..lol)

PS. I kind of like the feeling of everyone rooting for the PATS...

;)

by atxstranger

To me the Super Bowl is an annual ritual of food and friends with the occasional "Oh my god did you see that play?" or "Was that a breast I saw?". Fox has been calling this "America's Unoffical Holiday" and I sort of have to agree, I put more effort into this than some of the other holidays out there.

I also became a huge football fan the last time the Eagles were in the Super Bowl, but being 6, I jumped on the bandwagon of the winner, the Oakland/LA/Oakland Raiders. I think it stuck cause my mom and dad both liked rival teams so it made it fun for me.

As for the game, I just hope for one like last year. A close game, back and forth, interesting and clean play. Last year's game and the Rams/Titans game a few years back are the two best over the 20+ years I have been watching.

Good luck to your Eagles (cause they are going to need it).

by jdclyde

but the commision didn't want to get people thinking about past sins again so the deep sixed them.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/news/fortune500/budweiser_super_bowl_ad/

One is by Budwieser (think it is supose to be posted on their web site.

"The ad is not the first to be pulled from this year's game due to sensitivity about offending viewers following last year's halftime show. Fox blocked an ad from Airborne, a natural cold remedy, that would have briefly shown 84-year old actor Mickey Rooney's posterior."

I can do without seeing that one.

here is link to the bud one, it explains HOW Janet had the "malfunction" last year.
http://www.budweiser.com/

Have a great weekend all.

by sleepin'dawg

The Eagles will have once again choked and died. Pats win on Sunday 33-6. TO appears but is ineffective. McNab throws 4 interceptions to Brady's 1. Pats recover 3 turnovers to Eagles 1. Woe for Philly. The only thing they've got going for them is cheese-steaks; the best in the world.

GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!! :D ;)

Hang in there Tom the Eagles might make it a few years from now. Nah;never happen in my lifetime. The Steelers will win it before Philly.

Dawg

by tomsal

33-6? OUCH wow people just give Philly no love, kind of ironic for the city with the nick name "City of Brotherly Love". But that's ok...there something strangely cool feeling about everyone rooting for the Pats and only folks around here (or so it seems) rooting for the Birds.

I've often rooted for the underdog, the little guy, the less popular choice....so its nothing new to me.

E A G L E S!!!!!

;)

PS. The game will be decided by no more than 7 points, whoever wins.

by sleepin'dawg

TO will be ineffective and McNab will be out before the end of the first half. The Pats may not have the best numbers in the stats but they always seem to come up with the best numbers where it counts, on the scoreboard. Riddled with injuries, they always find a way to win.

GO PATS :D

Try not to take it too hard Tom. They might have a chance to play against the Pats next year but the results will probably be the same.

Dawg ;)

by jdmercha

I lived my first 22 years in New England. I lived in Philly for one year. I work at Donovan McNabbs Alma Marter.

Go Pats! (I guess.)

by tomsal

But I know how passionate folks get..so I just grin when folks talk about the toughness between the two sports.

The funny thing is...the padding a football player wears is far from comfortable. Its not like you feel the comfort of being wrapped up in the "fluffy" quilt you have on your bed. I played football fully suited up before..the pads , between the stiffness of them and just the added weight its actually uncomfortable.

When you are "suited up" you tend to have a false sense of "safety" and that makes you make more bold hits too.

Trust me...even compared to Rugby, the NFL guys take some mean punishment I don't care what they say.

by jdclyde

because the pampered millionairs do not want to lose their livelyhood I don't think they push themselves as hard as a bunch of drunk guys rolling in the mud together.

So I will give you that.

We still have better cheerleaders. Woo Woo!

by oz_media

NOt that it's a BAD thing, but even WalMart has cheerleaders at the door, okay, 'greeters' same thing.

"Ricker racker firecracker sis boom bah, WalMart WalMart rah rah rah!" Did I not just walk through the dorr already though? Is this to stop me form running away? Or is it just another fancy/nonthreatening name for the last set of eyes at the door?

England has cheerleaders too though, they are generally referred to as football hooligans (ever played Hooligans? GREAT game!). Every team has a group of 'travelling cheeleaders'. Usually hairy guys that are professional full-time drinkers with big mouths and bad attitudes.

Better than those 'sissy' cheereaders! LOL :D

Canadian sports don't have many cheerleaders. They don't get paid for cheerleading at CFL games, they don't travel with the teams but they gain dance experience and free hair care products.

All the other Canadian sports are too cold or too dangerous for cheerleaders.

Hockey, Lacross are too dangerous and Curling (zzzzzzzzz, brrrr).

by thechas

Not to steal from your thunder, but just what is the deal with the Superbowl?

Or, for that matter, sports in general?

I mean, just what difference does it make in your life as to who wins on Sunday?

I understand that some people consider spending an afternoon watching millionaires butting heads with each other in the employ of multi-millionaires to be entertainment.

But, why do we make such a big deal out of this?

And how on earth can anyone justify the salaries paid to these players.

For that matter, why do cities fight and spend our tax dollars to build the stadiums that house the sports teams?

I just don't get the whole sports scene at all.

I can understand the draw for those who are playing the game itself. But watching the game, any game just boors me to tears.

I just have better (?) things to do with my time than watch a bunch of overgrown Neanderthals battle over an odd shaped ball.

Chas

by tomsal

Fundamentally, on the salary thing, I'm right with you believe it or not...and I can get my blood going if I start talking about how someone who can pass a ball or run fast gets millions, while my father who busts his arse for 45 years at the same plant, making a product that improves the quality of life for all got no where near that amount of money.

However, to the rest of your post I say...its just about living life a bit and enjoying yourself a little. I don't get carried away to the extreme and ultimately no it doesn't impact my life who wins or loses Sunday...but I think, with all respect, folks who are too tight about even just seeing the simple plain fun of enjoying a sport for no other reason -- just for fun, well I just wonder if it hints at other things in life. Is that same person too bland to get out on the dance floor? Is that person to cautious to try skiing, sky diving, white water rafting?

The politics of sports -- bores me to tears. The money they make , makes me sick...but if all goes well the best I can reasonably hope the good lord will keep me on this planet is maybe 40-50 years longer...I just don't want to be tight about everything, I want to just be able to enjoy some things without controversial, without explaination, without exerting energy on it...I just want to enjoy it for the sake of enjoyment.

Too each their own.

by thechas

Don't get me wrong.

I don't want to deny people the right to enjoy life as they see fit. I just can't get a grasp on the passion some people have for these team sports.

While I don't partake of the thrilling activities you mentioned, I do have my own athletic passion.

I love distance cycling.
The joy the accomplishment of peddling a bicycle over 200 miles in a single day cannot be described to those who have not lived for the endorphin rush.

I only wish I was as gifted as others who partake in distance cycling. The record for the 24 hour event I participate in is just under 500 miles.

When I am in shape, anything under 30 miles is a short ride. Unless it is over 70 miles, it is NOT a long ride.

Chas

by jdclyde

First, I am not a sports fan. the idea of sitting around watching TV for hours on end just doesn't do it for me.

BUT> I do like when the superbowl comes around because that is when there are all the superbowl PARTIES. The main difference between this year and the last few is I actually know who is playing this year BEFORE I show up at the party.

That is what does it for me.

Maybe we will hear from someone who is a fan.

by house

I do enjoy watching a good football game, whether it be Canadian or NFL, but I usually only watch it when I am sitting around and happen to land on the channel. (which doesn't happen very often)

by smorty71

Being a Vikings fan, I just can't pull for the Eagles. The two beatdowns at the hands of the Eagles this season were just too humiliating.

I think the Patriots will dominate the game defensively (as they did against Indianapolis) and keep the Eagles out of the end zone. If the Patriots key on Westbrook the entire game, there aren't that many weapons that McNabb can go to.

Of course, thanks to the "Edit post" feature, I can adjust these comments on Monday if needed. :)

BTW, as far the comments about salary go, there wouldn't be high salaries if there wasn't a market to support it. I agree that it makes our priorities appear skewed (athletes make millions, teachers make thousands); however, I won't fault an athlete for taking advantage of the system that exists.

After all, if all of us could run really, really fast and catch a football, I don't think too many of us would turn down a $100 million NFL contract.

by tomsal

My bro (I watched the game at his house..he's twice the Eagles fan that I am) has the same argument about the salaries. He also says the same for movie stars..."Well if there wasn't a market for it then they wouldn't get paid that much, so why shouldn't they make what they make".

As for the game..well when McNabb has his head up his arse, hands the game over to the pats in forms of turnovers AND then Reid with his "beautiful" (dripping with sarcasm) play calling..you really don't need the Pats to do much of anything.

Oh well...The New England Patriots the Lamest er..Luckiest "Dynasty" in NFL history.

by maecuff

I have to admit, I haven't read a single post in this thread, but I must say, that from at least one American household, there isn't a single inhabitant that cares one little bit about the superbowl. Other than I bought a few squares from someone at work in the pool and wouldnt mind a few extra bucks..

by oz_media

I bet hubbby's poised on the edge of his chair for another tittie shot this year! LOL

Stupid Bowl, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

by thechas

Oz,

In a press conference, among other topics, Paul McCartney was asked about the potential for a wardrobe malfunction.

His response was to guarantee that there would be no malfunction as the entire band would be playing in the nude.

Needless to say the NFL and FOX executives at the press conference nearly had heart attacks over that.

Chas

by maecuff

My husband isn't in to sports at all. We watched Harold and Kumar go to White Castles instead of the super bowl. No one screamed and yelled or threw things at the TV.

by tomsal

You'd definately kick my butt in distance cycling. There is an event here in New Jersey that my brother and some guys from his work participate in. Its for the benefit of cancer research, but its this huge cycling event that is basically ran the entire width of this state from west coast to east coast. I think the entire gig is about 80 miles. He asked me to do it this year, I'd need a new bike first...but I might think about it.

It takes place in June.

But wow 30 miles to ME is a very long bike ride!

by thechas

Charity rides are a great place to start if you have an interest in cycling.

They really take good care of the riders at most charity events.

First, find out what the course is like.
If it is flat, just about any bike will do.
If it is rolling or hilly, you want to get a touring bike.
That way, you will have extra low gears for climbing hills.
Also, the frame geometry on a touring bike is better suited to long rides than a racing bike.

Either way, it is well worth it to buy your bike at a good bike shop.
If you want to hang the bike in the garage, buy it at a discount store.
If you want to ride it, buy it at a bike shop.

Used bikes at a club sponsored bike swap can be good also.

Train.
For an 80 mile ride, you want to work up to the point where you ride around 150 to 200 miles per week.
2 weeks before the event, ride at least 60 miles in one day.

The training guides say to not increase your weekly miles by more than 10% at a time.
While you want to gradually increase your miles, it is MOST important to limit how much longer your longest ride per week is.

If on your first week of training, you do 20 total miles and 1 10 mile ride, you can safely increase the long ride to 12 miles while doubling your total miles by riding 8 miles or less on the other days.

If you want to see what is the extreme in distance cycling, check out the Race Across America. Otherwise known as R.A.A.M.

The R.A.A.M. race runs from San Diego to Atlantic City.
The winner in the individual class takes just over 8 days to peddle the entire distance.

If you decide to take up the charity ride and want any other advice or insights, just let me know.

Chas

by jdclyde

yes, yes we do.

America, land of the free. where else can a bunch of guys that are bald and have a beer gut have pretty girls talk to them? (instead of AT them like they get at home?)

But then again, Canada having the soft porn on TV makes up for that I guess. Why would you need cheerleaders when you have porn?

(of course, not that I have ever notices. I have just HEARD of all this.) : ]

by jdclyde

I have noticed a few things in the local BorgMart.

One, yes you get a cheap price when you sell cheap import crap. Many quality products are produced overseas. Someone should let BorgMart know that.

Two, it doesn't matter if there is only one person in front of you in line, your going to WAIT. The quality of personel matches the quality of many of the imported products they sell. low.

Three, it doesn't matter how causally dressed I am, I always feel over dressed when I go in there. Same feeling of going to McDonalds on prom night. (not that I would know)

Boo BorgMart.

by oz_media

Don't even get me started.

There was a report on last night about their outsourcing and they followed new suppliers into the HO where they picked up a contract and at that time were already being pushed to squuze their own suppliers before the first order was complete. They PROUDLY and admittedly outsource more than 40% of their merchandise to China and they encourage LARGE manufacturers to also outsource to China so they can provide a lower cost.

Wal Mart brags how they are responsible for creating so many jobs, yet they are the largest outsourcer of manufactured goods in the WORLD.

When they took over Woolco here, where I worked as an apprentice mechanic one year, they were bragging of falling prices yet all the staff rushed to buy up as much as possible before WalMart took over the inventory as the prices went UP on most goods.

They were denied a licence in New West due to poor business practices, they are currently rallying against it in another BC city. They aren't wanted, they SUCK and they can go home to America and be the big guys if they wish, just not in my town.

I'll stop while I can, sorry bout that.

by oz_media

I love Kumar, the funny part is he actually has a Jersey accent in real life.

I've seen him in quite a few movies now, I think he's does a LOT of very diffferent work, but Kumar was GREAT!

I loved him in Van Wilder too, especially when he is applying for Van Wilder's personal secretary job.

by jdclyde

Besides the outsourcing, they have had several legal "issues" here already.

There was a law suit against them because they were making people work after they punched out, or would go in and change peoples times after they would leave.

The other major one was when the cleaning staff nation wide was by the majority illegal aliens from Mexico.

Yeah they make a lot of jobs, minimum wage jobs. work at krogers or meijers for $10/hour or walmart for $6. What an opportunity. Maybe that is why they can't get decent help? You think?
I have no use for that place.

by jdclyde

Anyone know if they ever televise rugby in the states? I admit I don't know much about it, but always willing to check it out. (even if they don't have chearleaders).

Getting sleepy. Reminds me how rock concerts used to be. Everyone was too high to want to fight over anything but the last nacho.

Now all the kids are on uppers and are tweeked out big time. And of course the latest trend in Metal is now HATE metal. How appropreate.

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