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    TechRepublic For The Over 12s?


    by dotxen ·

    The quality of the threads, the subjects posted and the responses are becoming a tad juvenile, tedious and rather silly, in my opinion.

    Are we really bothered with the bi-monthly “Stupid things that users do”? This is hackneyed and pointless.

    Then there are the ‘desperate’ who go unnoticed in their lives and work. They offer us such blazing insight from threads as sharp as “Why did you choose your operating system?”. What hope is there with banalities like that circulating what is supposed to be an intelligent forum.

    On top of those we have the threads which try to present a contentious issue to provoke discussion and to reflect the contributor’s own startling intellect. A sort of voyueristic situation where the contributor can rush to the computer hoping to see an endless tree of equally nihilistic responses.

    What of the TechRepublic folk themselves? Presumably they scratch a living from the click-throughs and the, supposed, fame and popularity of this on-line tabloid.

    As for the articles and the technical advice etc, I am not sure that knowing ’10 ways to avoid switching off your computer’ is going to enlighten anyone or push back the borders of technology.

    Will I rush home to breathlessly check to see the responses to this thread? Possibly, because I am no different to anyone else in that respect. I have, on occasions, contributed and I have been guilty of the crimes and misdemeanors I outlined above. Why, well I suppose I just wanted to to get some attention. Maybe that’s what it’s about.

    I promise to try very hard and to contribute only that which is aimed at the over 12s.

    I look forward to some attention.

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    • #3160662

      Okay, so you’ve got my attention

      by jardinier ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      Now how about suggesting a discussion topic that will meet your criteria?

      And if it is a topic never before explored, and of a serious nature, how will you stop people from going off on (usually humorous) tangents?

      • #3158982

        My thoughts exactly

        by jdmercha ·

        In reply to Okay, so you’ve got my attention

        In addition I think you might find that posting such a topic requires quite a bit of effort. As does responding to it.

        For exapmle, we are in the process of converting from Novell to AD. If I were to post a question about it I’d have to write about 10 pages of background info. Now who’s going to read that, much less reply.

        Forums like this are best suited to short and simple opinons. If you need more, than you should pay a consultant to come in and give you the answers.

        • #3158973

          Why would anyone in their right mind

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to My thoughts exactly

          go from Novell to AD?

        • #3158939


          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Why would anyone in their right mind

          Please ‘splain AD.

        • #3158931


          by jellimonsta ·

          In reply to AD?

          Windows Active Directory.

          Check the Wikipedia page.

        • #3158918


          by dawgit ·

          In reply to AD

          I hope he knew that.

        • #3158898


          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to AD

          Actually I didn’t know. I’ve no real-life Server Administration experience at all. I’ve never had a need for it. I probably know just enough to be dangerous and… thanks Jellimonsta.

        • #3158858

          my apologies than

          by dawgit ·

          In reply to Dawgit

          and in that case you’re in the right place. I was wrong for that. -d

        • #3158784


          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Dawgit

          Ain’t nuthin’ but a thang.

        • #3158917

          too much $$$$$ ?

          by dawgit ·

          In reply to My thoughts exactly

          I do believe your CIO and CEO and CFO are going to have a falling out, SOON!

          (edited to add CFO, now how could forget the bean counter ?:| )

        • #3159991


          by noyoki ·

          In reply to My thoughts exactly

          Well, off-topic, and for that I apologize to robb.

          But jdmercha, what version of Novell were you on, and what is AD??? (We’re on NetWare 4.2, GroupWise 5.5ep and it’s driving me absolutly f’ing crazy!!)

          I’m not looking for an actual mail server (at least not yet), I think we just use Novell to pull messages off our mail/domain host, so I’d like to keep that bit, and even the fileserver can stay (they’re on the same machine, yes, I know. But it’s what I inherited when I started.)

        • #3159986

          HA! That’s what I get for taking so long

          by noyoki ·

          In reply to Conversion…

          to type up a response. Ignore the question of what AD is. lol.

      • #3159394

        Cool rose

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Okay, so you’ve got my attention

        Is it in a garden you take care of?

        I wonder if the attention here will be enough, thats an awfully loud cry for attention.

        So here we run off on another sensless grade school thread, maybe he just doesn’t understand TR, or better still, the PEOPLE that make up TR.

        Oh well, HI I SEE YOU!!! Waving hands in air)

    • #3160653

      An idea

      by jdclyde ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      Maybe (just maybe) YOU would at some point having something to add that someone else might feel is worthy of notice?

      Being a Spammer and posting the same thing four times does not quite qualify as quality. Maybe if you do it four more times, you will make up with quantity what you are lacking in quality?

      Pick and choose where you go gumby. There is something for everyone here. (yes, even for someone like you) You just won’t find it in the Misc section.

      There are always people like you that come and go, cry for a bit and then take their ball and go home. Maybe you could make a club? Gather like minded members together and you can all sit around and have your very mature discussions.

      Hope you find what your looking for, but it doesn’t sound like your trying too hard.

      • #3159307

        Well Spotted!

        by dotxen ·

        In reply to An idea

        Can’t argue with that.

        However, the point I raised is a fair one, and as you are an intelligent person, I am sure that you will agree that too much time and effort is wasted on regurgitating, recycling and rewriting the same old tired subjects.

        I know I am being harsh, objurate and, possibly, over assertive, but someone has to be, or things never change. In this case, I don’t hold out much hope. But that doesn’t mean that I despair of TR. It is just that I, and many others maybe, can see a decline, a deterioration, in the quality offered at TR, and the questionable usefulness of bland articles, topics and threads etc.

        Raising standards is always a good thing. In most cases change is a good thing. But I fully recognise that some find these activities and expectations can be somewhat threatening to some of the more ‘gentle’ souls.

        I thank you.

        • #3159216

          Wasted time

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Well Spotted!

          I have personally grown weary of some of the more political rants. My solution? I don’t join in on them.

          There are people that are so filled with blind hate, that there is no rational discussions with them on politics.

          If you want to see better posts, the post better posts.

          “If you build it, they will come” 😀

        • #3159473


          by thisisfutile ·

          In reply to Wasted time

          I see both sides on this one. I?m relatively new to TR. I don?t post much, and I get two emails on M-F and one or two on the weekend (geekend). I probably click one email link every two weeks. Just a couple weeks ago I remember seeing a sophomoric topic and I thought, ?Perhaps this isn?t a professional IT congregation after all?. I currently belong to a small forum for our distribution (ERP) software that we use and out of several hundred posts, not one of them talks about ?My favorite color of underwear?. Everyone on that forum just understands we have an obligation to not water-down the forum with relatively worthless posts. (I just referenced underwear and water-down in two consecutive statements?AND THEN CALLED IT?how?s that for sophomoric) 😛

          Conversely, since I tend to gravitate to the neutral, I?ll end my post with simply taking jdclyde?s advice and I?m going to go search for some posts that are useful to my trade?and then on occasion, ?build one, so they come? 😉

        • #3159192

          Toward what end?

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Well Spotted!

          So that you won’t have to make a decision as to which discussions are worth your while?

          TR in general, and the Miscellaneous Discussions in particular, are a collective watering hole, not a scholarly debating society.

          I feel you pain; but, do deal with it.

    • #3160641

      Get your meaning

      by rob mekel ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      As some of the others have said already, this not being a repetition of what is being said, there are a variety of issues to discus on several topics. But at special on Miscellaneous this will be not all serious/getting to a point. As an example maybe Friday’s YUK, that is meant to be funny/hilarious. Sometimes it is(well mostly) sometimes it isn’t.
      And yes sometimes ppl are getting a scrub, because of their opinion, behavior or even typing.

      And yes sometimes the “peers” can over do it. Then again maybe that person has misconducted that much and is that thick headed it is the only way to make the point to that person. If such a person comes back and apologizes for the misbehavoring and improves, well we are all just human (alltho some think they are more) and can make mistakes, then it is no harm done and “Welcome back”.

      Have “fun” and I hope you can and will learn something at and about TR.


    • #3160608

      But I like it,

      by wingedmonkey ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      I like the top ten lists,
      I like the user vs. tech rants,
      I like things being repeated that I might have missed before.
      Isn’t it down to personal opinion?
      What you consider pointless may be a worthwhile vent or a needed social interaction for another.
      I don’t understand why other people should stop what they are doing just to conform to your acceptable standards.
      But here is my response to your post. You win by the instant gratification that you have been noticed, I win by getting to post back and feeling like I’ve done something meaningfull in return.

      CHUCK NORRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • #3160602

        And most importantly

        by jdclyde ·

        In reply to But I like it,

        I win because I got the last say in the matter! B-)

        • #3160597

          What ever jd :D ;)

          by rob mekel ·

          In reply to And most importantly


        • #3160595

          Or did you?

          by ciderick ·

          In reply to And most importantly


        • #3160516

          how immature

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Or did you?

          to post just so you can have the last word. How do you live with yourself after such behaviour? As if [b]you[/b] having the last word is something to desired.


          EVERYONE knows that it should be ME that has the last word! :p

        • #3158977

          Now why

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to how immature

          would you make such an absolute statement? EVERYONE knows? I didn’t know. I just assumed that I should have the last word.
          What are your qualifications for deserving the last word? Do you have back up documentation? Are you certified? (or certifiable?) Where you granted this right by some omnipotent being? Is this written in some ancient scroll somewhere? Or are you just pulling this out of your a$$? Which is it?

        • #3158946

          Which is it?

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Now why

          [i]I had something written, but remembering WHO it is I am replying to, I had to delete it and start over. Boy, that would have been not cool at all with what YOU would have done to that post! ;\ [/i]

          It has been prophesied?

          It seemed like a good idea at the time?

          I am a guy, and because anything I say would be wrong anyways, it doesn’t MATTER what I say?

          ~run away! run away!~

        • #3158936


          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Which is it?

          would you run away? That’s accurate.

          Now I want to know what your original post said..

        • #3159978


          by noyoki ·

          In reply to Now why

          If nothing else, he is that. ]:)

          *runs from JD, who is hampered by a sheep trying to get at his clover*

          ]:) ]:)

      • #3159680

        apart from feeling intimidated…

        by falling burrito brother ·

        In reply to But I like it,

        …sometimes by the number of contributors who seem to know each other very well and have their own ‘in’ jokes….I like TR too.

        Don’t get me wrong when you read the above – I only feel intimidated because I’m a relative ‘newbie’ and that’s just the way it is.

        There IS social interaction here, as well as bloody good forums for tech advice\real world updates.

        DENNY CRANE!!!!!!!

        • #3159629

          Don’t be.

          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to apart from feeling intimidated…

          We were all noobs here once. The more intelligent posters we get, the better. As long as you’ve taken the time to lurk a bit and get to know who’s who (and since you’ve been here almost a year, you probably have), and you have something meaningful to contribute (even if it’s not Earth-shattering, but interesting nonetheless), the old-timers are always happy to see a fresh poster.

          We may not always agree (for example, I have a very high regard for jdclyde’s posts, and I agree with most of them, but I still had to call one of them “moronic”), but if you can give a good reason why you think what you do, most of us will listen. I’ve even admitted I was wrong about something–the horror! I think every time Palmetto has replied to one of my posts, it has been to disagree with me. However, since he usually gives some good reasons, I still have a lot of respect for him. However, when you talk to rickk, he usually responds with something you’d expect from a poorly-written Microsoft Propagandabot(tm), and most of us have little-to-no patience with him. Perhaps you could use him as a paragon of what not to do.

          Have you read Apotheon’s Top 10 TR Newbie Indicators?

          Steer clear of those and you’ll probably have nothing to fear. Welcome and, as we say in SuSELaND, Have a lot of fun!

        • #3159569

          You forgot a few things Hawk

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Don’t be.

          If you go into a political discussion, be prepared to back up what you say with some kind of documentation and links. Sources that are non-bias, or at least mainstream.

          If a leftie nutcase, don’t quote for anything.

          If a rightie nutcase, don’t guote Rush for anything.

          If an econut, greenpeace is also not a credible source.

          All of these have stated agendas and anything that is in conterdiction to their agendas will be “modified”.

          Be friendly, but don’t be assuming until the people you have gotten to know, have gotten to know you.

          Be respectful of the women. With the exception of 1UNaw, they are very intellegent and will put a shovel upside your head if you forget it. ;\

          Here is another discussion that will help to DE-noob you. 😀

        • #3161243


          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to You forgot a few things Hawk

          Excellent job fleshing it out for me. Thanks!

        • #3155995

          too late, but anyway….

          by falling burrito brother ·

          In reply to Don’t be.

          ….I’ve been awol for the last week, so haven’t been able to thank you and jdclyde for your responses & encouragement. Even if you don’t get to read this – your comments have been much appreciated & notes taken.

        • #3155748

          Only 1 week AWOL?

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to too late, but anyway….

          Hell, I was MIA for 8 to 9 months; I’m still playing catch-up.

          As for being a “newbie,” we all start out that way, in all our endeavors; it can’t be avoided, unless we kill ourselves immediately after birth.

          Keep in mind the old adage that there’s no shame in trying and failing, only in failing to try.

          May the future be kind.

    • #3160590

      Some of the attention you look forward to

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      Please don’t cross-post. This had nothing to do with Servers or Network Admin, the other two forums you posted it in. Or was the cross-posting an ironic example of the poor posts you were discussing?

    • #3160572

      Maybe TR isn’t for you

      by smorty71 ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      As much as we try to make our members happy, we know that we can’t please everyone.

      Based on your comments, our discussions, articles and technical advice are not to your high standards.

      My only advice would be that if you don’t like a certain type of discussion, don’t read it.

      • #3160408


        by charliespencer ·

        In reply to Maybe TR isn’t for you

        Do you have this as a template so you can use it in the future as needed? Might be worth a thought…

      • #3158929

        But SMoRTy….

        by jellimonsta ·

        In reply to Maybe TR isn’t for you

        Aren’t YOU supposed to take the responsibility in shielding our eyes from those discussions which are inappropriate? 😀

        Now, who is to decide which is and isn’t appropriate? Don’t let it be JD, he will never fit his head through the door then! ]:)

        • #3158765


          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to But SMoRTy….

          TR would never be the same…… ;\

          Oh, it would be a beautiful thing! 😀 ]:)

    • #3160403

      I can tell–

      by mjd420nova ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      Maybe you need to cruise the chat rooms, then
      you can get instant satisfaction at stirring
      things up. This forum is just like every-
      thing around us. From almost every walk of life,
      every experience, and vocation. I want to hear
      about it, LET’S ROLL. I try to offer up
      what most want to hear, geared to illict a
      response from someone. True, some discussions
      get side tracked, hi-jacked and even some will
      attempt to mimic chat rooms with cross responses
      unrelated to the rest, meant only for one member.
      YEAH, SO. I work when I need to (rent) and
      spend the rest of the time with hobbies. I
      do not wait for responses, nor attempt to raise
      the ire of any member, but there are those who
      non the less will take to heart what is meant
      in jest. Judge not lest ye be judged. Those
      who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

      • #3158909

        chat rooms???

        by dawgit ·

        In reply to I can tell–

        do they still have those? I thought they killed them all.

    • #3158910

      Well over 12

      by tig2 ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      Robb, it would appear that you have some issue with the topics in the Miscellaneous area as well as in other places. A few things become obvious by your post.

      You haven’t been advised that the Miscellaneous section might just as well be referred to as the Water Cooler. It is a place where intellegent people can converse on just about any subject, generally non-technical. While I agree that there are those who do not clearly think through their discussion points before posting, there are some excellent posts with valid and useful information posted by critical thinkers who make informed arguments for their specific viewpoint. True, some disintegrate to some hash slinging- we are passionate people and believe in what we are saying.

      It is unfortunate that there are some who find it necessary to toss out ill-conceived drivel without providing appropriate links and supporting information. Those discussion threads either morph into something useful or humourous or they die the death they so richly deserve.

      Threads regarding your OS preferences, why you are here, and similar are designed to help someone who is wary of posting to come to the discussion table. There are no wrong answers and the poster does not have to read through every response to insure that they are not echoing someone else. Each individual’s opinion is welcome.

      As you have been able to so clearly define what you see to be the problem, I believe that it is up to you to help the peer community as a whole understand what the soultion should be. We are waiting with open ears and minds.

      Edited to correct typo- Keyboard… GRRRRRRRRR

    • #3158753

      You said it better than I ever could.

      by nz_justice ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      I thought I was the only one who noticed how lame threads where in the TR. But any thread I could think of posting about it, was just an extreme juvenile thread, along the lines of? In ten words or more ?Why is TR one of the lamest sites on the net ______? and then reposting peoples “bitches” as evidence of how lame the threads could be and of course link to other lame threads through out the TR and then posting links to better sites including cnet who funnily enough host TR et…. But frankly I didn’t think it would be worth the effort, and then you posted this sensibly worded post and I thought, dam! glad you could be bothered, because I know I couldn’t be.

      The Tech Director of the TR posts some good threads but a lot of people who reply to his posts give kind of lame responses.

      It was trivia geeks fault he started the “In ten words or less “The Triva geek is the greatest because______”

      And at first I thought “wow” What a good idea of getting people invloved in a discussion. Then other TR users started ripping the theme off and there seems to be no stop to the insanity, hopfuly the TR will try to improve there site (which means downtime) soon and once every thing is up and running it would be new and improved (but that seems like just a dream).

      Sorry if this was under 12, but don’t care.

      😉 have a nice day.

      P.S to any one you reads this I will be periodically editing it because I know that it is bad etiquette.

    • #3158750

      Well, yes; but, …

      by deepsand ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      it’s not as if we need to read and participate in all that is offered.

      The downside I see is that it is taking me an increasingly long time to peruse my subscription e-mails seeking truly new and useful information, separate true Discussions from Tech. Q&A listed in the wrong forum, and identifying Discussions worthy of my time.

      • #3158735

        Love ya

        by ontheropes ·

        In reply to Well, yes; but, …


        • #3159704

          Now you got my keyboard all wet.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Love ya

          Are you a native of Hell, or did you just retire there?

        • #3159367


          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Now you got my keyboard all wet.

          Could die in Hell I s’pose.

        • #3159232

          Home is where, when you go there, they have to take you in.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Resident

          Just remember, they can’t throw you out of Hell!

      • #3158720

        Now I will offend (almost) everyone

        by jardinier ·

        In reply to Well, yes; but, …

        Over my three and a half years membership of TR, I have seen the quality of discussions deteriorate, and the number of superfluous “humorous” posts increase to the point where I no longer expect to learn anything of value from miscellaneous discussions.

        I’m with you there, Sandy.

        By coincidence or not, I don’t know, but this general deterioration of quality and serious posts has paralleled the disappointment expressed by many Americans — at this website — with George W. Bush and his administration.

        Increasingly a handful of mostly Bush loyalists, and a few anti-Bush “foreigners,” attempt to dominate the discussions, and mostly would rather exchange childish repartee rather than post any useful information.

        I don’t need to name these people. Just do a count of the number and frequency of posts by this handful of people.

        • #3159973

          The interesting thing is

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Now I will offend (almost) everyone

          you see the quality of discussions deteriorating, and WE see the number of discussions you start increasing?

          Parallels? 😀

          A valid observation, or childish repartee? You will have to decide that for yourself.


          [i]you did not offend me in the least, but I don’t speak for anyone but myself.

        • #3159400

          Correlation vs Causation.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to The interesting thing is

          Assuming that one accepts your observation as a given, to what extent do the [i]subjects[/i] of said discussions relate to the great divide between Bush’s defenders and detractors?

        • #3159329

          The correlation

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Correlation vs Causation.

          is that there is no correlation.

          The issue of politics in the US has not been a cause for any “deterioration of quality”. There are political rants, true, but that does not stop anyone else from creating what Julian considers a serious post. You will recall the biggest issue he has had recently for people being irrelivent in serious posts was a Bush detractor, not a Bush defender. That same detractor tried to stupidly get him banished from TR.

          My point was Julian makes more discussions than the majority of us, and if he is complaining about the lack of quality posts, maybe that is a good place to start looking? Was it too subtle?

          You are free to come to a different conclusion if you wish. The fact of the great divide between the antibush and probush goes back even before he got elected the first time, and there was already a campain of hate against him. This shows the dishonesty of many that lie about the reason they hate him is because of Iraq. It isn’t the right that has moved further to the right to create the divide, but the left getting hijacked and moving even further to the left.

          The list goes on, including people of limited understanding that claim Bush “stole” both elections. Talk about creating a divide.

        • #3159231

          So, what you are saying is that, …

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to The correlation

          in your opinion, his posts are of an inferior quality?

        • #3159215

          what I am saying

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to So, what you are saying is that, …

          Julian is complaining that a lot of the discussions are inferior.

          I am just pointing out that he starts a lot of discussions. (more than most members do)

          If he or you draw a conclusion from that data, so be it. It is as conclusive as the data he first offered. B-)

          Cause and effect. Just because two things happen at the same time, doesn’t mean they are related. THAT was my point.

          Solution. If you don’t like the quality of the discussions, then go out and make better discussions or be pickier which discussions you go into.

        • #3159193

          I draw no conclusion.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to So, what you are saying is that, …

          Just trying to figure out what seemingly was one on your part.

          No big deal.


        • #3159156

          Number of discussions started

          by jardinier ·

          In reply to The interesting thing is

          During my 42 months of membership, I have started 136 discussions.

          This averages out at slightly more than three per month, and if there has been any increase in frequency in, say, the past few months, it would be marginal.

          There was a period of some months when I didn’t post here at all, because I was using the Christian website forums instead.

          However what I have noticed is that although you have been a member since December 2000, I don’t recall any (significant ?) participation in miscellaneous discussions by yourself until relatively recently.

          There would appear to be a strong correlation between your divorce and your need/desire to talk to people.

        • #3159141

          Not having been here for all of that

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Number of discussions started

          but speaking from my own personal experience(s) it’s possible that someone getting divorced allows them to HAVE AND VOICE an opinion of their own without someone trying to shove one down their throat everyday, relentlessly, for no good reason, without letting up, while trying to prove them wrong at every turn, over and over and over again day after day after day.

          Do I look bitter? Don’t answer. I’ll just ask my EX-wife what I think.

        • #3159126

          I think you may have misunderstood me

          by jardinier ·

          In reply to Not having been here for all of that

          I was in no way criticizing jd for talking about his divorce, but pointing out that for most of the time that I have been starting discussions, he was not an active participant in the miscellaneous discussions, and so would not be in a position to say that I am starting discussions more frequently recently than I have in the past.

        • #3159117

          Yep, I did.

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to I think you may have misunderstood me

          I was totally out yonder somewhere else. I must’ve had a flashback or something.

        • #3159109

          Actually Julian

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to I think you may have misunderstood me

          there was a bit of an edge to your posts. ;\

          I think it was about six months of posting before the divorce. So yes, ALL of mine have been in the last two years. I have never said otherwise.


        • #3159675

          NBB – Flashbacks are good.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to I think you may have misunderstood me

          1) They’re cheap; and,

          2) You can’t be busted for having them!

        • #3159676

          Well, in my case, she actually used to ask me …

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Not having been here for all of that

          who to vote for! Pissed me off royally, because she was quite capable of doing her own homework on the issues and candidates; and, it was the [b]only[b/] area in which she valued my advice.

          In nearly all other matters, she’d go through the motions of seeking my input and then do that which she’d already settled on doing.

        • #3159110

          First of all Julian

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Number of discussions started

          I was just trying to give you a hard time (note emoicon), in my own smartass way.

          Before the divorce discussion, and me. For years it was just newsletters and downloads. Then I followed a link in a newsletter and I THINK my first was about oiling the fan for your cpu, or at least that is the oldest I can find.

          I stayed along the tech route, and only briefly ventured into EL. I think the friday yuks did more to distract me than anything else.

          You like your vague correlations lately, huh? Are you going to say I am now the culprit that has brought the level of the discussions down? I would say that the majority of my discussions I started were decsent quiality, and if not tech relevant they were world even relevant. (accept for the 100 post discussion, I suppose). And a good portion had nothing to do with politics.

          And of course, no one ever complained to TPTB on me…. :p ( you are so abusive…. 😀 )

          Bottom line, I was JOKING with you and you got your tights in a bind. So, did it end up with you being the one to be offended? Sorry about that. Guess instead of one ;\ I should have gone like this?

          :^0 ;\ :p :p :p 🙂 😀 B-)

          Maybe that would have tipped you off to the tone of my post a little better? ]:)

        • #3159613

          I plead guilty to:

          by jardinier ·

          In reply to First of all Julian

          1. Failing to psychoanalyse the smilies in order to determine your true intent;

          2. Sounding overly terse.

          jd, ya know I loves ya. 😡

        • #3159578

          Your mistake

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to I plead guilty to:

          is when you start taking me so seriously in a discussion like this….. 😀

          What fun is it to have sticks if I can’t poke people with them? ;\

          I DO hope after realizing my intent, you went back and reread my posts?

          Be well.

        • #3159501

          jd, I have clearly stated

          by jardinier ·

          In reply to I plead guilty to:

          that I am mostly interested in serious discussion at TR. I get my repartee with real, corporeal people at the various shops, cafes etc that I visit each day, as well as the various people who live in my block of 16 apartments.

          And there is my gardening client, Mary Ann Arnott, who has boobs that would no doubt rival GG’s, and usually wears a flimsy nightie or pajamas. Although it is “no touchie,” she really enjoys my sexual innuendos.

          I do not need these discussions to let off steam or take a break from work.

          So please insert the smilies, and I will pay more attention to them in the future.

        • #3159454

          Looking for serious posts

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to I plead guilty to:

          Then why are you in this discussion in the first place?

          One of the posters big complaints is the new line of “fill in the blank” discussion that TR has started to try to bring more people to the table that generally don’t feel qualified to add input to the technical discussions.

          This is a crying session, not a serious post.

          When we are in a serious post about politics/tech/religion/sex, I am serious as the situation calls for.

          But even with the search of the serious topic, there is always room for some light hearted conversation. didn’t I see you in the “men of TR calendar” discussion? :0 Quit trying to take yourself so seriously as you have stepped up and been as “silly” as just about anyone, when given the chance.

          And I will try to not be “silly” (pull a 1UNaw) in a serious discussion, provided the people that are suppose to be discussing something serious are not just being stupid. ( we have seen that all too often, and the only cure for stupid is ridicule! 😀 )

          Cheers! The sun is shining and life is good.

        • #3159791

          You maybe referring

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Now I will offend (almost) everyone

          partly to my BS, as above to deepsand. I couldn’t restrain myself because I just do not, in general, care for deepsand and don’t feel that I can reason with him. I’ve read entirely through many of his discussions, checked his history, profile and read dozens upon dozens of his posts. I’m certain that I would goad him relentlessly in person just for the hell of it. That is just my own personal problem and, if you WERE referring to me, I kind of, sort of, apologize for your having to see it.

        • #3159393

          You’ve been trying to goad me?

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to You maybe referring

          Thanks for the heads-up; quite frankly, I had’nt noticed!

        • #3159368

          I’m not too surprised

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to You maybe referring

          that you hadn’t noticed because my goad-posts have been childish and easy for any busy mature person to ignore. I also feel as if an apology from me to you for doing that is in order.

          I may not agree with what you say and post but a lot of it does make for interesting reading nevertheless. Having served in the US Navy myself I’d probably buy you a beer or two but we’d damn sure better not talk politics at the bar.

        • #3159679

          No harm, no foul.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to I’m not too surprised

          You’ll find that, short of wanton stupidity, I’m not easily provoked; and, if I am, I’m rather well practiced at dealing with such.

        • #3159155

          Nope, completely missed the mark

          by jardinier ·

          In reply to You maybe referring

          I enjoy your posts immensely. I consider your approach to all matters is sensible and fair.

          So please keep posting your views. I for one appreciate them.

        • #3159678


          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Nope, completely missed the mark

          [i]Non carborundum illegitimati[/i].

        • #3159699

          Representative of US populace as a whole.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Now I will offend (almost) everyone

          Your observation comes as no surprise, given that President Bush’s tenure has given rise to a polarization within the country, as best witnessed by the 2004 elections, that is without peer in recent memory.

          Assuming that TR’s membership is representative of a cross sample of the US populace, it is to be expected that the views expressed here will, to some extent at least, mirror those of the whole.

        • #3159152

          I have been blessed/cursed with the memory of an elephant

          by jardinier ·

          In reply to Representative of US populace as a whole.

          I can’t always remember words verbatim, but I can remember issues.

          So I will tell it like I see it. I joined this website shortly before the invasion of Iraq. At that time and for many months onwards, this website was top-heavy with gung-ho American pro Bush Republicans. I don’t recall any anti-Bush Americans at all at that time.

          HOWEVER, some 18 months later when blind Freddy could see that the war in Iraq had turned sour with no apparent likelihood of improvement, all but a few pro-Bush diehards silently expressed their feelings by no longer participating in political discussions.

          When Bush was re-elected in 2004, many formerly staunch Republicans expressed their horror at the outcome of the election, and several announced their determination to emigrate from America.

          In recent months the proportion of anti-Bush to pro-Bush posts has increased in what appears to be geometric progression.

          While President Bush is rating very poorly in opinion polls, he is rating even worse at this website.

          I attribute this discrepancy to the no doubt significantly higher than average intelligence of persons who work in IT.

          However you are stuck with him for another 3 1/2 years by which time the formerly great nation of America may well be economically bankrupt as well as politically bankrupt.

        • #3159677


          by deepsand ·

          In reply to I have been blessed/cursed with the memory of an elephant

          While the most vocal Republicans claim to be “strict constructionists,” many of them, along with Bush himself, actually pursue courses of action that can be constitutionally justified only by way of the doctrine of “implied powers.”

          And the Democrats, who are well known for pursuing goals attainable only under the latter doctrine, now find themselves using the former in their opposition to Bush.

          Both are having a very difficult time reconciling their professed positions with their actions.

    • #3158747

      Don’t look now

      by jdclyde ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      but we have been trolled! one crappy post and never heard from again. must have really meant a lot to him?

      • #3158739

        It may be

        by ontheropes ·

        In reply to Don’t look now

        time for his nappy poo.

        Last post!
        Nyahaahaahaaw. Meeeee toooo funnnnny!

        Won’t happen again.
        Right away.

        Do y’all really care why I edited? Don’t answer. I want to be last poster by golly geez.

        • #3159972

          Then correct term is

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to It may be

          [i]”It won’t happen again until the next time!”


        • #3159961

          I think

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Then correct term is

          you’re right.

        • #3159955

          Hey! You two!

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to I think

          Play nice, or don’t play at all!


          (ok, NB, gotta ask, cos this must be a cultural thing…OOBCYA? Got the CYA bit, but puzzled on the OOB bit….enlighten me, buddy?)


        • #3159914

          I tried to figure it out

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Hey! You two!

          if you transpose it, I can see yoo, BOO! (used to play that with the boys when they were babies! Cracked them up when I did it out of the blue the other day! 😀 )

          oob. out of brains?
          oob. officially over burdened?

          (had some others, but didn’t think they would get by the TR thought police! B-) )

        • #3159911

          I like NeverBusted better

          by tig2 ·

          In reply to I tried to figure it out

          And besides, I couldn’t let JD have the last word..

        • #3159826


          by noyoki ·

          In reply to Hey! You two!

          Object Oriented Boobs, CYA (as in, “Toodles, I’m off to play with some”)?

        • #3159819


          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Hey! You two!

          Out of business – another masterful stroke of genius huh?

    • #3159277

      [i]You have been awarded the 1AW Memorial Award for Monumental Stupidity.

      by sleepin’dawg ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      The outstanding feature of an existence dedicated to the total uselessness of your particpation as a member of the human (we think)race is being recognized with this award for lifetime achievemnet in the division of totally inane stupidity. Will someone open the envelope??? [b]And the winner is: Robb06.[/b]

      Let’s get this straight pal, nobody, least of all myself, could give a flying fornication for what you think. You have loitered here on TR for over 2 1/2 years and this is the sum total of your contribution to the proceedings??? Pitiful if confined to one post but four almost identical posts in four different forums is a tad over the top besides being unnecessarily repetitive and assinine, even after making allowances for your so obviously challenged intellect.

      You’re having a problem with the quality of TR content??? I might be able to accept that from someone who had contributed something in the past 2 1/2 years but from someone who has been conspicious by their absence, I would humbly suggest they STFU; your contribution is too little and much too late. You would be permitted an opinion if you had participated but for someone who has been around for the time you seem to have been, you are remarkably forgetable. Not satified by TR, then leave. Take heed of the usual salutation I give to those departing; don’t let the knob hit you in the ass on your way out.

      [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

      • #3159264

        Personally, there’s not a much better way

        by ontheropes ·

        In reply to [i]You have been awarded the 1AW Memorial Award for Monumental Stupidity.

        to start the day than with a good cup of coffee and a big black ‘Dawg kicking ass.

      • #3159230

        Let’s not overlook his 1 “contribution” to a serious discussion.

        by deepsand ·

        In reply to [i]You have been awarded the 1AW Memorial Award for Monumental Stupidity.

        After that, I would ask him what this or his other 3 identical posts have to do with IT.

        • #3159203

          What was it that he said about everbody

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Let’s not overlook his 1 “contribution” to a serious discussion.

          including, by default, the frequent visitor Maxwell Edison?

          “People who visit this site (present company excepted of course) are far too anal to even know who President Bush is.”

          Far be it from me to stir up the pot.

        • #3159191

          Stir away, please.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to What was it that he said about everbody

          Why is it that so many seek the comfort of those with whom they agree? Is it for validation? Out of complacency? Or, for lack of a sense of wonder? God, how utterly boring.

          Give me someone who disagrees with me to talk with; perhaps we’ll both learn something!

        • #3159184

          I think that it’s just human nature

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Stir away, please.

          On various occasions over the course of my years I’ve seen groups of strangers bond together simply by choosing to mock me and/or what I represented to them.


          Since everybody has had different experiences you’ll never have to wait too long for someone to disagree with at least some of your viewpoints.

          As you well know, some of the other strong-willed and highly-intelligent people at TR just ain’t ‘fraid to speak their mind on either side of a discussion.

          To me, both pro and con makes for interesting, thought provoking, possibly life changing and somewhat addictive reading.

          On the other hand, instead of it being human nature, some people are just stupid.

        • #3159177

          Therein lies the rub.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to I think that it’s just human nature

          Distinguishing between the ignorant and the stupid is at times difficult enough when one has the benefit of the audio-visual cues present in a face to face conversation; here, with naught but text, it’s damned near impossible without the willing and honest co-operation of the other party.

          All too many jump to a conclusion about another based on but a single sentence, as if that were somehow sufficient to convey a complete and intimate understanding of the writer.

          Max, for example, seems to hold that he and I are wholly unalike, and takes great delight in condemning all that I say, based solely of the source; yet, from various positions that he has posted, I can see that we do indeed share certain commonalities. In those instances where I publicly concur with him, he vanishes from the scene, as if acknowledging such agreement would somehow diminish his perception of his stature.

          Ah, well, it’s all soup, as my grandmother used to say.

          And, as it’s going on 01:00, I think that I’ll go eat some!

          May the future be kind.

      • #3161242

        Like Miss America,

        by nighthawk808 ·

        In reply to [i]You have been awarded the 1AW Memorial Award for Monumental Stupidity.

        this award is apparently given by last year’s recipient.

    • #3159233

      You don’t have to read TR (or specific threads)

      by jmgarvin ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      If you don’t like it don’t read it. If you want different discussion start a thread.

      Problem solved.

    • #3159229

      You “look forward to some attention”?

      by deepsand ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      How old are [b]you[/b]?

    • #3159160

      Sorry. Fool that I am I just had to do it

      by ontheropes ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      Last post.

      • #3159157


        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Sorry. Fool that I am I just had to do it

        my turn…..



        • #3159145

          GG wins

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Nope……


        • #3159144

          You’re right again darn it

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to GG wins

          Oh… wait…

        • #3159142


          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to You’re right again darn it

          be careful

          be very careful

          I may bring myself to my full height, and head-butt you in the kneecaps!!!




        • #3159139


          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Busted……

          I’m not skeered AND I’m hoping you’re not too tall. So there.
        • #3159135

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Hey!

          You should be skeered……

          five foot and a very important little bit…..



        • #3159103

          GG in that case wouldn’t you prefer a Viking helmet, one with horns on it??

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to Hey!


        • #3159099

          No, Dawg

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Hey!

          because then some bright spark (you) would probably come along, jam the helmet on my head, and then pick me up by the horns…..!

          (I know the way you think!)



        • #3159097

          I’m thinking that I’ll just give up

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Hey!

          trying to get the last word in here because of the threats and intimidation tactics. I’ll probably go to some old, old discussion and post the last word.


          Fooled ya’!

        • #3159095


          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Hey!

          stop squeaking, you’re showing your mouse side….

          glad to see the intimidation tactics working, though!

          – but just in case, I’ll look out for old threads reappearing in the list – that must have been you last week, too, was it??

          Sheesh, the things some people will do to get the last word in!!!



        • #3159091

          Let me squeak up

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Hey!

          No that wasn’t me last week.

        • #3159077


          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Hey!

          [i]”pick me up by the horns”[/i]

          Is THAT what you call them? :0 ;\ ]:)


        • #3159674

          Pikers, all.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Hey!

          For real one-upmanship, visit EL.

        • #3159669

          Hold thy tongue knave!

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Hey!

          We don’t use that sort of language around here! :p ;\

        • #3159661

          My ex made me do it.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Hey!

          That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

    • #3159631

      Let me check my calendar…

      by nighthawk808 ·

      In reply to TechRepublic For The Over 12s?

      … Yep, it’s the middle of the month. Time for yet another “TechRepublic forums have jumped the shark” discussion. Nice to see some things never change.

      • #3159545

        I use the Farmers Almanac

        by ontheropes ·

        In reply to Let me check my calendar…

        for my TR discussion calculations.

        “The Moon meets Saturn on the 3rd and Jupiter on the 11th, before coming close to Venus on the 24th. It passes just to the right of Mercury in a conjunction on the 27th and meets Saturn again on the 31st.”

        Using a polynomial equation with multiple variables in conjunction with the above information, and my unpublished secret fudge factor, is much more scientifically accurate than just checking the calendar.

        I have noticed too that the frequency of change is barely measurable yet it is still ever so slightly changing. I’ll search Google for the possibilty that someone has already developed a constant for me to use that may provide even greater accuracy.

        • #3159542

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to I use the Farmers Almanac


          have a piece of fudge on me!



        • #3159511

          Busted – Why not use the [i][u]SWAG[/u][/i] method? It always works for me!

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to I use the Farmers Almanac

          In case you’re wondering, Scientific Wild Assed Guess.

          [b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

        • #3159455

          I used it

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Busted – Why not use the [i][u]SWAG[/u][/i] method? It always works for me!

          when I got married the first three times. It didn’t prove to be very reliable.

        • #3161356

          Learned to SWAG it decades ago.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Busted – Why not use the [i][u]SWAG[/u][/i] method? It always works for me!

          It’s a venenerable method, as good as any other.

        • #3161343

          I first heard of SWAG

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Learned to SWAG it decades ago.

          when I was in the US Navy. Without it I think the military would grind to a halt.

        • #3161244

          Army uses it too.

          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to I first heard of SWAG

          Although we called it “Some wild-ass guess.” I’m not sure where “scientific” came from; I’ve never heard that before.

        • #3161196


          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Army uses it too.

          that you don’t know or have heard everything.

          Get a tight hold onto your shorts my boy.

        • #3161191

          Did I ever claim to?

          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to Army uses it too.


        • #3161194

          You left out quantum effects.

          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to I use the Farmers Almanac

          Until you go to TR’s website, the probability of a new “good old days” post being there and one not being there are equal, or, more accurately, there both is and is not a new discussion about it at the same time. Once you go to the website, you collapse the waveform and TR is no longer bad in infinitely many ways, but simultaneously becomes bad in one specific way. I think HTML has a meta tag for it somewhere.

          Also, you cannot accurately measure both the number of new “bad TR” posts and their rate of creation at the same time.

          In addition, if there is one bad discussion started, another good one is automagically created. If this did not happen, the universe would explode as anticontent particles overwhelmed it.

          Furthermore, two discrete “TR sucks now” discussions cannot both think TR has gone downhill for the same reason at the same time. I call this Larry’s Exclusion Principle.

        • #3161190

          A paraphrase

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to You left out quantum effects.

          If you pile it high enough they will come.

          You can’t say I didn’t warn you, boy.

        • #3161189


          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to A paraphrase

          You forgot to put “You owe the Oracle a joke” at the end. But if by “they” you’re referring to who I think you’re referring to, I’ll say this: I smacked “them” down long before you got here, old man. Do you think I didn’t know exactly what I was doing when I wrote that post?

          Perhaps for the physically-challenged like yourself, I should perhaps paraphrase my paragraphs here:
          Paragraph 1: Schroedinger’s Cat
          2: Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle
          3: Matter/Antimatter
          4: Pauli’s Exclusion Principle

          Post edited to add forgotten sentence.

        • #3161151

          Too soon

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Thanks.

          If I read your next post will it still be stupid simply because I read it? If I don?t read it would it be brilliant simply because I didn?t read it or, would it still be stupid?

          If I don?t read it and/or respond to it I won?t know if you?ll think you?re even more of a frigging genius than you do now and/or have more or less of an over-inflated ego than you already do. If I do read what you post and it doesn?t seem that your ego is growing that may only be because I read your post.

          If this is the only possible Universe then my facts cannot be correct if your facts are correct and they are diametrically opposed to the data available in this Universe. So if I am correct you must be getting your facts from another Universe through some type of tunneling effect or perhaps use of a quantum-dynamic ansible with your equal yet opposite over-blown ego in another Universe.

          ?Physically-challenged? ? beats mentally challenged hands down, not that I am either. The evidence of my dimensions must be apparent in my posts to you. I call that phenomenon the emotionally-challenged inclusion principle.

          Let’s see…

          My answer is yes.

          edited to add “.”

        • #3147049

          Got up too soon, you mean?

          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to Too soon

          Go get some sleep, then, once you’re coherent, read your post and explain to us what it was supposed to mean. I’m sure somewhere in there was four kilotons of wit dying to get out, and I’d love to hear what it was. All I’m getting out of it right now is a poor, fragmented, logorrheic imitation of my original quantum post, but based on what you’ve written elsewhere, I know you’re capable of much better. Maybe you’re just having a bad day.

        • #3146985

          I fully expected

          by ontheropes ·

          In reply to Too soon

          that you wouldn’t comprehend but don’t concern yourself.

          I do believe that it’s not good judgment on your part to think that other people at TR require me to dissect my post. There’s no doubt in my mind that my point of responding to you as I did is perfectly clear to many.

          Thank you for the compliment. If I ever see anything worthy of even the slightest compliment in any of your writing I will be sure to be as graceful.

        • #3146263

          No need to compliment me.

          by nighthawk808 ·

          In reply to Too soon

          Plenty of people have already done that before you got here, and plenty of people probably will when you’re long gone.

          Now, my bin of preprepared content-free posts for individuals like you is running low, and my patience for reading your content-free posts is running just as low, so that’s enough of this subthread for me. You get the last word.

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