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Teen Protests his school saying PoA in Foreign Lang.

By Jessie ·
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7146982

MILLERSVILLE, Md. - A ninth-grader is protesting his school?s decision to broadcast the Pledge of Allegiance in foreign languages as part of National Foreign Language Week.

Patrick Linton said he and other students at Old Mill High School sat down rather than stand Wednesday when the pledge was read over the school?s public address system in Russian. Linton?s teacher told him if he had a problem he should leave the room.

He did, and did not plan to return this week.

?This is America, and we got soldiers at war,? the 15-year-old said. ?When you?re saying the Pledge in a different language which nobody understands, that?s not OK.?

Charles Linton, Patrick?s father, said the use of other languages is disrespectful to the country. ?It?s like wearing a cross upside down in a church,? he said.


Does somebody want to tell me... just HOW saying the pledge of allegiance in something other than English is DISRESPECTFUL?!?!?! I always thought it was the feeling and the meaning of the pledge that did it honor... not the language in which it was spoken.

Thoughts?

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I'll probably regret this......

by dafe2 In reply to Teen Protests his school ...

(I'm Canadian...not American)

Not so much disrespectful as disgusting.
It was written in english & I'm assuming this school is english.

Why in **** would you say (your) POA in another language if it's an ENGLISH school??

I'm bilingual (French & English). My primary language is english but I studied at frecnh schools all my life.

Whatever was said in school was FRENCH.

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National Foreign Language week

by Jessie In reply to I'll probably regret this ...

For National Foreign Language week, the school was doing the pledge of allegiance in both english and then in another language, different language each day.

Is saying the plege in Sign Language disrespectful or disgusting then?

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ASL?

by Cactus Pete In reply to National Foreign Language ...

American Sign Language? I doubt anyone would have a problem.

Some may have issues with some other form of sign language, though.

Personally, I don't see why the Pledge couldn't be stated in another language. If a school is for kids of hispanic decent, saying the pledge in Spanish and English can only help them identify who they are... USA citizens who primarily speak another language should be able to speak the Pedge in their preferred language.

Besides, hearing something familiar in another language helps people learn the differences, and *gasp* similarities, of cultures and people.

I don't find code written in VB to be disgusting because the first version was written in Java...

For that matter, American English today is hardly what it was 200 years ago...

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Language

by kathleenmuro In reply to ASL?

There is no national language, and Americans are free to use any language they want to speak. For practical reasons, we all pretty much agree to use English for public interchanges and in our schools. The thought police want us to be forced to use English at all times, but, thank goodness, we have a Constitution that guarantees us freedom of speech.
American Sign Language is only one of the sign languages used in the US, and its use is controversial, with hearing people often opposed to its use. Our public schools generally use Signed Exact English or Signed English, Deaf activists use ASL, and many Deaf communities have local signs that are used in their geographical area. Where I live, Mexican Sign language vocabulary is also part of the local patrois.
Language use and preference, and efforts to force others to use certain languages, are political and power-based decisions, and reflect a society's definition of human rights. Prohibitions against using a language are usually part of an attempt to deny human rights and/or obliterate an inconvenient culture by those in power.
I live in a bilingual community (English and Spanish) and belong to a trilingual family (English, Spanish, and Korean) and I wouldn't have it any other way. We have a friend who grew up in a Norwegian-speaking family (Minnesota), and an older friend who grew up in a German-speaking community in the midwest--even the public schools were in German. I have another friend who spoke Vietnamese as a small child, then French in school, and finally English (and Spanish). BTW, two are MD's and one is a PhD. and there is evidence that learning multiple languages well increases one's cognitive abilities.
I think what this school was doing is teaching America at its best. I can't think of anything more symbolically patriotic tahn saying the pledge in English and then in French or Urdu or Catalan. We are all Americans!

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Confusing foreign with enemy

by gralfus In reply to National Foreign Language ...

If the pledger is still speaking respect to our nation and flag, what is the issue? If it is being said in English and then in another language as a stated recognition of Foreign Language Week, then the student knows exactly what is being said. Foreign doesn't equate to enemy, even if the language is Arabic.

His temper tantrum is very misplaced, and ignores the many people groups that make up our nation. If they skipped English, then there might be an issue, since that is our official language.

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Indeed

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Confusing foreign with en ...

Being a brit I would n't take the pledge of allegiance in any language, so I fail to see why which language those who choose to take the pledge in is relevant. With the one proviso that someone who is deemed suitable to judge whether the pledge has been taken understands what has been pledged.

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I pledged allegiance

by Oz_Media In reply to Indeed

Well I didn't KNOW the pledge but I still respected those around me and stood facing their flag as they showed their respect. I was at McCord (sp?) AFB in Tacoma, I am onYOUR soild I will respect YOUR customs. It doesn't mean I pledge allegiance to your country or your flag, it's that I respect YOUR pledge to your flag as an ally.

I have seen Americans stand and mumble through the Canadian national anthem, I have sung the US national anthem. Who cares? It doesn't make me American, I am not sworn in before doing so.

I just choose respect your, or any country's customs when I am in your country.

As for learning another country's language (what this is REALLY all about) who wouldn't want their child to become culturally diverse? That's just completely **** and retarded.

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who wouldn't want their child to become culturally diverse?

by tbragsda In reply to I pledged allegiance

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Keep your eyes open. They are all around.

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Exactly!

by Oz_Media In reply to who wouldn't want their c ...

It's very nice to see how many people see the stupidy of all this. Sometimes I have been shocked to hear support for other matters I deem similar in their absurdity though.

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Keep your ears open...

by Gunnar Klevedal In reply to who wouldn't want their c ...

There are 5000 languages on earth alone,
all of them functional, all of them bearing content

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