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We choose to not take action and it propelled us into that great war with huge popular support.

Time and de-classification may tell what really happened on 9/11 and it will not be surprising if history remembers this detail in the same manner- especially if you study John P. O'Neill's work and his tragic (and ironic) death in the towers.

I guess you believe in black helicopters, Area 51, and that the Illuminati are behind it all, also. Franklin Roosevelt and George W. Bush both took appropriate actions after sneak attacks for which they had no advance warning.

You obviously know nothing about JP O'Neil. He was a very real person and the question already historically is NOT whether parts of our government knew, but which parts and which people at what times. That is why the Bush administration shuffled around in an attempt to improve communication between the FBI, CIA and other agencies for homeland security. This is real stuff that really happened.

BTW- I do believe in Area 51. I know people that worked there. There were some wild aircraft going in and out of there- so much so that at different times they would seem quite "alien" to most people.

Have you studied any history? What did you think of the United Staters of America sinking the Maine ACTIVELY instead of passively letting someone else do it to get us into that war... is that a Crazy Conspiracy Theory" too? ~LoL~

You need to read some history.

There you go on your crazy theories, even bringing in the Maine. While it has been shown that Spain was not responsible for sinking the Maine, that the Hearst papers use the incident to flame the fires to war, the USS Maine sank due to a boiler accident. No one purposely sank it, it was an accident, as later investigations by the Navy indicated. You just proved my point about believing in crazy conspiracy theories with your Area 51 remarks. You probably believe in the second gunman in the grassy knoll, that J Edgar Hoover was behind the Kennedy assassination, that there was a coverup with Project Bluebook, that Anastasia survived the murder of the Romanovs but was suppressed by the English Royal Family, that Jack the Ripper was the Duke of Clarence, and other wild conspiracy theories. Next, you will be teling me that the Austria-Hungary was behind the assassination of their own Archduke Ferdinand in order to have an excuse to invade Serbia, and that the fluoridation of water is a Communist plot, and that the Freemasons control international banking.

"An official U.S. Naval Court of Inquiry reported on March 28 that the ship, one of the first American battleships and built at a cost of more than two million dollars, had been blown up by a mine without laying blame on any person or nation in particular, but public opinion in the United States blamed the Spanish military occupying Cuba anyway. Subsequent diplomatic communications failed to resolve the matter, leading to the start of the Spanish-American War by the end of April."

" On February 15, 1898, an explosion of unknown origin sank the battleship U.S.S. Maine in the Havana, Cuba harbor, killing 266 of the 354 crew members. The sinking of the Maine incited United States passions against Spain, eventually leading to a naval blockade of Cuba and a declaration of war. "


Funny thing is, Hymans late report from the 70's ruled out Torpedos or Mines, but listed no cause other than an internal explosion. What you speak was given at a cemetary memorial in 1998. Rear Admiral Morton E. Toole said:""It makes no difference whether the explosion was caused internally by coal or externally by a mine, the fact is 266 Americans died."
Which is a good point and well and good at a memorial, but the fact is that the report specified it could not of been external, so mines are ruled out, and the only reason coal came up is that people can't fathom that an explosion happened and are reaching for a reasonable explaination without considering the possibilities rationally or fairly.

Watch the fourth building fall in the Twin Towers (it wasn't hit). There's a possibilty for good discussion, but Bluebook, area 51 aliens- spare me...

Are you saying it was absolutely 100% true to fact that it was a boiler accident? If that is true you are apparantly the only person in the world that can prove it. Why haven't you yet? If you can it would be good to get it cleared up and I (and many others) would like to accept this. Unfortunately, we can't.

You are right about the Hearst papers though. They definately made that whole thing a lot worse by blaming a country that was in no way responsible for the accident. That seems to be agreed upon even at our Naval History Museum. We made a mistake using the Maine to get in that war.

Your blanket disbelief of everything that is not de-facto standard public opinion is the real conspiracy theory mind in action here. How you can believe everything is neat and clean is beyond me. It isn't. You are just blowing smoke and bring irrelevant material in an effort to hide from what may really turn out to be true, Have you looked up the life of John P. O'Neil yet? Once you develop an understanding of it you will probably find it fascinating :)

Two different situations. Japan had invaded China, we were helping China defend itself by disrupting Japan's oil supply. Japan could have gotten us to end the boycott by withdrawing from China. Japan was the agressor and we were helping the victims. The United States liberated Iraq and removed a vicious dictator from power that was threatening the entire region. Saddam Hussein was the agressor and we are helping the victims. Fortunately, things are much different now in Japan, and they are now one of our best allies with us in Iraq, helping to bring freedom and democracy to the Mideast.

The feud between Japan and China was -- and is -- hundreds of years old. It probably goes back to early in the First Millennium C.E. when Chinese monks "civilized" Japan by overlaying it with Chinese culture, just as they did in Korea and Vietnam.

America's total history as a people goes back a bit more than 200 years. Except for those of us with Indian blood, none of our ancestors was even here when most of the pivotal events in the history of the rest of the world were taking place. The occupation of huge swaths of Asia, Africa, and Europe by various invading armies, the religious conflicts, the Dark Ages.

Most of us know nothing about events that took place before our grandparents were alive. To claim to understand a foreign conflict well enough to be able to choose the "righteous" side is downright silly and pure hubris.

As a Mideastern friend once told me: "If you say that the Jews have a right to Palestine because it is their ancestral home, then you must give Arizona back to the Indians. If you say that the Palestinians have a right to it because it has been their home for so long that possesion trumps history -- then you must give Arizona back to the Mexicans."