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The War Against Terror - how to win it

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Well, not this way. That's for certain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7427206.stm

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by rfink

Heaven forbid! You might hurt someone's feelings. :_|

I think I'll go cry in a corner somewhere. :_|

by jdclyde

Got a peer mail from someone trying to contact you.

If you peer me, I can forward his information to you.

jd

by jiminpa

Who finds this stuff?! Someone with way too much time on their hands. I imagine you could find symbolism in anything if you tried hard enough and someone will always be offended.

by forum surfer

Why not tell the offended people not to wear their feilings on their shoulders and pull their heads out of their arses. You can't make everythin pc for everyone. I hate being pc...why bother.

:)

by jdclyde

If you can get a left leaning organization to bad mouth you as a right leaning blogger, you can't GET better advertising than that?

It would be nice if people learned to NOT give people the attention they so desparately desire.

It is a non-event story to begin with, and never should have made international news.

by maecuff

But I did in this case as I make it a practice to read Neil's posts.

And it just confirmed what I already knew. Michelle Malkin is an idiot.

Oh, wait. She's a f*cking idiot.

by notsochiguy

What's next, protesting picnics at the beach or retired gents playing chess in the park???

Oh, I know...someone will protest a horse race announcer for using the words 'Arab' and 'flying' within the same paragraph.

Or maybe next basketball season, when someone goes into the lane and dunks on the Lakers, Marv Albert will slip, and say 'Look at LeBron James take it to the twin towers'.

The more we acquiesce (Dunkin Donuts should have responded by sending the person a coupon to McDonald's or something, and asked them not to patronize their establishments in the future), the worse it will get.

At the rate we're going, generations from now, people will few 'Forrest Gump' as a messianic message.

by $$$$$$$$$$

Live by the _____, die by the _____.

[Hint: the answer begins with "s", is 5 letters long, and is not "scarf"]

by Former member

Sorry. I'll go back to my corner...

by jdclyde

I thought reading the comments was even more telling of who this was written for.

by jdclyde

but never actually read anything she has done that I can recall.

But that is my point, why give a f*cking id10t a forum? You don't, regardless of their political leanings.

The WORST thing that can happen to a blogger is to be ignored.

The BEST (for a political blogger) is to get someone from "the other side" to blast you publically. She got exactly what she wanted, and people that read her are more likely to see "her point".

by Member 25348569

of the Blog, its writer and the reaction, the advertisement WAS withdrawn - at least, if the Beeb is correct.

It just struck me as so indicative of what 911 did to the US's psyche so I posted it.

My reason for so doing was that this is a prime example of why the "War on Terror" is totally un-winnable and why your country needs to wake up pretty quickly! The combination of irrational fear and total ignorance that caused this advert to be pulled is frightening. It's why you're mired in Iraq and it's why your politicians are able to ride through your constitution as if it wasn't there.

If it IS a "war". Which it isn't. Never was.

Neil

by jdclyde

But this has nothing to do with changes from 911 and everything to do with peoples stupidity.

For decades now, people have been able to sue our companies and WIN with no scientific proof.

People go to McDonalds, drop a coffee ON THEM SELVES, and STILL are able to sue McDonalds for millions because of the burns they receive. All part of the stupid in the world that HATE "big business".

Throw in the politically correct BS that is killing our people from the inside out, and you have a ripe ground for people to force companies to change their ways, kind of like that article that the BBC changed about global warming slowing, after being threatened by a lefty blogger. Was that 911 too?

by boxfiddler Hot topic

for a national uniform law. When in public citizens must wear... Everyone will then 'look alike' and no one can take offense at what someone is wearing.

Apparently, more and more people 'need a life'.

etu

by notsochiguy

Kurt Vonneguyt Jr. penned a story about how in the future, society had regressed to the point where anyone exceptional was made to be 'normal'. A big, strong, handsome guy was made to wear a mask, and lug around weights, for instance (I can't remember the name of the story...but in the end, the two main characters go on TV and dance...and are promptly gunned down).

I used to take this as pure paranoia.

I know wonder if it wasn't prescient.

by $$$$$$$$$$

... "a regular adornment of Muslim terrorists appearing in beheading and hostage-taking videos".

How would she know that?

by notsochiguy

She gets streamed updates of terrorist activities for the day....up to 140K worth of info.

"Undermine US economy. DD lady wear scarf. No one buy donuts.Mwah ha ha."

"Lil Bush. Love show. Too bad we'll destroy all western culture."

I read in another thread that it's all the rage in 2008. :)

by notsochiguy

You saved me a day of racking my brain, and kicking myself for being so reckless in my youth (one too many shots to the noggin). :)

by notsochiguy

...was rock solid. Too bad the script started to drag at about the 60% mark. Gun-kata was a pretty cool concept.

Makes you wonder how much better the Matrix movies would have been, though, if Bale (or just about anyone else with a pulse, for that matter) had played Neo instead of Keanu...especially the third movie (where good acting could have helped redeem a terrible script).

by boxfiddler Hot topic

The action was excellent. Extremely well choreographed. I just kept thinking - and being entranced by - what a dark dance!

You're right about the The Matrix, too. That last one just completely lost it. All that symbolism built up in the first just kind of steadily went to h3ll in the 2nd, and disappeared almost entirely by the 3rd. They should have quit while they were ahead.

edit to add: Christian Bale does a bit of darkly interesting work, well. American Psycho anyone?

by $$$$$$$$$$

And that is the citizenry, activist [b]jurors[/b], not judges.

[i]People go to McDonalds, drop a coffee ON THEM SELVES [sic], and STILL are able to sue McDonalds for millions because of the burns they receive. All part of the stupid in the world that HATE "big business".[/i]

No, many people observe that corporations, and the chief officers of them, have purchased special treatment for themselves. Nearly "anybody who has a real life" blames corporations generally, not any corporation specifically, and bills any corporation, when assigned to a jury.

I haven't seen McDonald's distinguish themselves from corporations which I know specifically are actively evil, for example by spearheading a publicity campaign against Archer Daniels Midland, so I have more sympathy for the Customer who spilled coffee on herself than I have for the inhuman entity McDonald's.

by oz_media

I really do, if you look at the guys picture, he doesn't look menacing or anything. Maybe they thought his crew cut made him look like a skinhead, which in England often means he is a spot of bother.

But even then, he looks pretty mainstream to me and not rebelious or anything.

Yup, I agree with you Neil, this is simply ridiculous and makes UK security look SOOOOO stupid in the face of the Middle East.

An idea: I think I'll wear my Iron Maiden Trooper T-shirt in airports from now on, just to see if a British monster with a sword gets to anyone. Tomorrow night!!!!!

There's goes the siren that warns of the air raid!
Then comes the sound of the guns sending flak
Out for the scramble weve got to get airborne
Got to get up for the coming attack.
Ruuuuuuuuun liiiiiiiive to flyyyyyyyyyy!

by the scummy one

Now I gotta go to an airport with one of those Wi-Fi shirts or the Amplifier shirt!!

Holy Cr@p this is severe idiocy...

by oz_media

I mean, Rachel Rae? C'mon people, that's just nasty!

Why not at least use Giada Delaurentis? Hubba Hubba!

As for the scarf, of well, leave it to the British Conservatives to have a winge about that one.

[i]Fashion statements may seem insignificant, but when they lead to the mainstreaming of violence - unintentionally or not - they matter," Ms Malkin has written. [/i]

Mainstreaming violence? Get real.

by $$$$$$$$$$

[i] I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.[/i]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litany_against_fear

Fear is a tactic, not an enemy. I'm not afraid of the terrorists. I just defeated terrorism. Now, I propose that we do something about our over-extended, under-trained, ill-equipped military and the overpaid corporations spending their paychecks, health care and retirement savings.

by jck

You defeated terrorism?

I gotta get you out to the house so you can defeat the ants in my yard!!! ;) lol

by Member 25348569

Speaking for my own country, I don't know when the small island that lived through the Blitz with total optimism morphed into the collection of sad, shallow, whiny, over-emotional, overreacting people that we are today.

The first time that I really noticed it was immediately following the death of Diana when there was a total emotional overreaction at all levels of British society to the extent that it sent shivers of trepidation down my spine. I wasn't wrong.

by jck

it was sometime following 1945? lol

i agree with you...i think that political correctness and all that here in the USA is way overboard. people have to walk around on eggshells at home...at work...in a store...just pathetic.

you give your 1 year old a smack on the hand if they touch something in a store and tell them no, and some ultra-soft-heart idiot calls the cops on you and tells them you beat your kid.

you can't even make a suggestion in the workplace here that you find a woman attractive, because that makes it a "hostile work environment".

i grew up in a time (thank God before all the PC crap) where...it was okay for your mom and dad to give you a sip of beer when you were a kid cause it was better than you going and getting sloshed with friends. now if the neighbor sees you doing that through your window, they call the cops and you're arrested for child endangerment or contributing to the delinquency.

i swear...i really think sometimes i'd be better off having a family and living away from society. at least, then i could teach my children about manners and moderation and common sense without the loons adversely affecting their growth in judgement.

by neon samurai

Just when I start to have optimistic ideas about our species, something like this happens.

It's a freaking scarf people, get over yourselves.

(To all the rational citizens, please disregard this comment)

by maecuff

I've seen some rather large women in stretchy pants that posed a danger. If those seams actually split, lycra and fat would be flying all over the place and who knows who could be injured?

And could someone explain to me why they even MAKE that type of clothes in neon colors??

by neon samurai

I was responding to the linked news article regarding the scarf but the other examples including the airport/shirt issue are just as bad.

From the scarf article:

"
The US chain Dunkin' Donuts has pulled an advert following complaints that the scarf worn by a celebrity chef offered symbolic support for Islamic extremism.

The online advert for iced coffee featured the well-known US television chef Rachael Ray.

She was wearing a black-and-white checked scarf around her neck that resembled a traditional Arab keffiyeh.
"

by jck

How does Ireland sound?

I need to escape the USA. no really good beer here lol ;)

by neon samurai

The downside; it's still close enough that you could visit back south on the weekends. Maybe you do want to move further.. :)

by jck

it gets WAY colder there than it does in Ireland or Scotland...trust me...ya never see -20C in Ireland...maybe -12C lol

i might actually come to Canada by the end of the year. my friend is a programmer for the Canadian government in Ottawa. plus, another friend of mine Toronto is a project manager and is in NC right now. i might go up and have a pint with him in July, if he has time.

by jdclyde

Stretch pants and a sports bra in size 92... :0

[i]~looks for puking emoticaon~

by jck

even at my biggest, i was 532 and wore a size 74.

Christ...and i thought i was big then lol

by jdclyde

John was wearing size 74 spandex and sports bra!!! AAAAAA! Run away! Run away! :p :0

:^0 B-)

by jdclyde

because after I look around here and see how bad things are, I see stuff like that and see that at least it is mass insanity instead of just us over here! :p

:x

Montana is looking better and better all the time. B-)

by neon samurai

Sadly, he won't be coming to visit for the start of BBQ season but he must have left something of his government critisizing essense there.

by oz_media

I have no problem with Spandex, I think it was great when I was a teenager and my girfriends always looked hot in Spandex (and those miniskirts that were actually just stretchy belts).

My issue with Spandex is, why make it stretch THAT much!?

Okay, so it stretches, that doesn't mean Jone's Tent and Awning have ot retail it too.

There should be Spandex licences issued to those who it will compliment, and for those it will not....well, there's always the mumu (or is it MOOOO MOOOOO!).

by neon samurai

That's as far into that example as I'll go for the sake or your, and my, imagination's eyesight.

by Member 25348569

I'd gone into such a complete manic rant against the stupidity of my own countrymen over the "t-shirt with a gun" that I clean forgot about the original post that got me started.

The scarf was, I believe, a black and white paisley pattern which is Scottish but even if it had been one of Yasser Arafat's best cast-offs, it was still lunacy.

:D

by neon samurai

I mean a terrist themed scarf is one thing but oh, hoohboy..

(I kid; I have scottish friends that are closer to the history)

Actually, I would understand concerns over displaying a specific tartan (clan colours) far more than a piece of clothing who's meaning can be spun to be something of concern.

by jdclyde

After all, the original post was by some "poor old sod" over in the UK, and we are just as quick to forget him as you were.... :p

:^0

heeheehee

by $$$$$$$$$$

Now I want to inspect Malkin's home and workplace for any Persian-looking rugs!

[i][Ray] was wearing a black-and-white checked scarf around her neck that resembled a traditional Arab keffiyeh.[/i]

Ratings must be worse than normal over at Faux News.

I'm having trouble deciding whether to start eating doughnuts just to support DD, or whether their chicken-hearted submission to the magic T-word is as bad as taking the side of the terrorists.

by neon samurai

Once patio season starts, there are so few weeks to get everything set out. I don't want to be searching for tools or last seasons moving boxes while building next seasons igloo; one must protect one's self from the constant flying hockey-pucks. :D

by jck

i have other plans...to go spend some quality time with someone in July...after i visit my friend in NC.

plus i'm probably going to be switching jobs about then...again. won't have a lot of beer money. i am thinking Canada in November tho...before it is ridiculously cold lol

by Former member

Stupidity does not discriminate on the basis of race, nationality gender... despite occasional thoughts to the contrary.

And somehow stupidity always rises to the top. I am thinking it is probably a physics thing...

by Former member

I have been trying for some time to recall the source of that story. I vaguely remembered it from... 3rd grade I think. But couldn't remember nearly enough to hope to have a shot at a successful search. Really wanted to read it again.

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