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by john.a.wills

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In 1776 Great Britain had 27 American dependencies, of which I cannot list all off-hand. 13 of the dependencies revolted and formed the U.S. Why those 13? What did Georgia and NH have in common that they did not have in common with Jamaica, Trinidad, Newfoundland, Ohio, etc.? It is perhaps relevant that Bermuda and Nova Scotia did send delegates to the Continental Congress, so that the question can be asked in two stages.

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by john.a.wills

Under the Quebec Act Ohio became a separate dependency of GB. It was to be run for the benefit of the Indians, which may be a partial answer to my question. Another colony which did not take part in the revolution but which is now a state of the Union is Florida.

by maxwell edison

They intended to send someone to the First Continental Congress, but the delegate, a guy named Chad, never got the final word on which way to vote on various issues -- they just left the guy hanging. He did try to send their best-wishes, however, in the form of a plant, but that got all mixed up because of some disenfranchised voters didn't get a chance to help decide what kind to send.

So because of some disenfranchised voters, a hanging Chad sent a bush to Washington!

(I know, it was in Philadelphia, but it would have ruined the story.)

by protiusx

In the first place I believe it was a matter of original allegiance where the settlers in the lower 13 colonies while coming from different places and having different back grounds grew to some commonality based upon their proximity to one another as well as being bound by common culture.

Which continental congress are you referring to? The first continental congress met from September 5, 1774, to October 26, 1774. There were 55 representatives from the British colonies in the Americas. These representatives came from:
Province of New Hampshire
Province of Massachusetts Bay
Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
Connecticut Colony
Province of New York
City and County of Albany, City and County of New York, County of Duchess, and County of West Chester
County of Kings
County of Orange
County of Suffolk
Province of New Jersey
Province of Pennsylvania
New Castle, Kent, and Sussex, on Delaware
Maryland
Colony and Dominion of Virginia
Province of North Carolina
Province of South Carolina

The Second continental congress met from May 10, 1775, to the ratification of the Articles of Confederation on March 1, 1781. The representatives that attended this congress came from:
Province of New Hampshire
Province of Massachusetts Bay
Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
Connecticut Colony
Province of New York
Province of New Jersey
Province of Pennsylvania
Delaware Colony
Province of Maryland
Colony and Dominion of Virginia
Province of North Carolina
Province of South Carolina
Province of Georgia

I am a history nut so I am going to research the History of Nova Scotia and see what I come up with.

by oz_media

There's a lot yous will find out aboot Nova Scotia.

First of all, they are the nicest people in the western hemisphere.

by protiusx

They are directly related to the Marquis de Montcalm and so took a land trip across Canada a few years back. They ended in Nova Scotia and then turned south back into the US. They said they loved Nova Scotia and said the people were really nice.

I just finished reading a book called "The Thrall tale" which was an historic account of Leif Erickson and the colonization of Greenland, Iceland and the Vikings excursions into North Eastern Canada. It was a great book.

by oz_media

The Vikings that invaded North Eastern England and eventually settled in the south instead of west.

When I lived in Cape Breton Island, NS. It was my first real Canadian experience, I was too young when I lived here before.

I have never, in my entire life, met people as warm, welcoming and just genuinely neighbourly.
the people of the Maritimes are simply the nicest people I have ever experienced on Earth.

Yes evertyone has stories of great neighbours or goo dfriends, but in NS, a complete stranger will welcome you into their home, cook you a meal and chat with you all evening, SERIOUSLY!

by tony hopkinson

a preponderance of uppity foreigners.

Lend lease, Suez, The Falklands, Northern Ireland and now Iraq. Should have hung on to you really ,shouldn't we.

by john.a.wills

There were a lot of non-Anglos in Quebec, Nova Scotia was Scots and Scots-Irish, so uppity Brits, Florida and Ohio were mainly Indian. I don't think the Hopkinson answer works.

by tony hopkinson

The scots, irish and welsh rarely think of themselves as british, us big headed english types called 'em that after we knicked their countries.
My knowledge of that period of history is a bit spotty, did the indians get a big say in how the states were formed?

by john.a.wills

My point was that there were a lot of foreigners of one kind or another in the colonies which did not secede.

by john.a.wills

The slaves in Jamaica were in much the same disenfranchized state as those of South Carolina. But the masters in Jamaica did not revolt whereas those in SC did.

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