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by jardinier

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I think it is time I moved on from this website after learning that I was sharing cyber space with some VERY, VERY sick people.

Management lifted the Ethiopia thread within minutes of my drawning attention to the highly offensive and LIBELLOUS content.

So dawg and all your sicko friends, have a smirk on me. I must rush off now as school is just coming out.

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by sleepin'dawg

Just for your information, your thread wasn't pulled because of any supposed libel or on your account; it was pulled because of the accumulated complaints of the female members of TR, who you had so gratuitously offended.

Here's a little point for you to take note of;[b][i]it is your stuff that gets pulled on a regular basis and no one elses and if you can't see and understand that you really are a sick, sad, pathetic and delusional, creature.[/i][/b]

You've been libelled here??? I'm conceited enough to think you must mean by me. Good! I'm glad you feel like that. That was my intent. Now I suggest you look up the definition of libel and it may surprise you to find out that any honus of proof regarding libel is upon you, not me and you would be putting yourself in the indefensible position of bringing suit against me for my opinions and like it or not, opinions are not libelous offenses.

Don't forget my opinions and those of others are all based upon what you yourself have stated here. You were told you were being offensive and you chose to ignore our sensibilities and continue to offend. The fact that so many have reacted adversely should have at the very least given you pause to reconsider. I will repeat the old joke once again since it has the element of truth to it and it seems so applicable to you and your situation, [b][i]"Sex is like air; you seldom notice it unless you aren't getting any."[/i][/b]

To quote Max, "Don't let the knob hit you in the ass on the way out."

One thing I might add; I don't believe you when you say you are leaving TR because of two items. 1): I feel you are such a consummate liar that you will keep reappearing like a stubborn STD that resists treatment. 2): You are incapable to resist flaunting yourself, mincing about, like an offended, old, queen. [b][i]Prove me wrong!!![/i]

Dawg[/b] ]:)

by jdclyde

doesn't there have to be some kind of damages done. And getting feelings hurt doesn't count.

Have you besmearched (sp?) his character? hmmmm.

by sleepin'dawg

doubt question it and you will note I kept all the context of my questions in the form of my opinions. I know how to skate around those minor details. I know what constitutes libel and I think, like most of his ideas, he dreams in technicolor. After all he was/is a friend of Oz.

Now all that remains is for me to try and figure out what Oz's last rant at me was all about. I thought we had agreed to disagree and had called a truce on our flame war. Some how he is under the misconception that [b]sleepin'dawg[/b] and [b]Dawg[/b] are two different people. Am I supposed to defend me against myself? It remains without doubt, one of Oz's more abstract and interesting ideas, so far.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by tig2

What Dawg said was "Has someone else noticed the OVERTONES (emphasis, mine) of paedophila and perversion?"

In short, Dawg asked a question.

In order to be considered libel, an accusation would have been required, or a statement of fact not inclusive to the initial statement to include additional facts not readily apparent. Therefore "you are a ..." or "I have seen you on this day at this time supported by these evidences..." These points might then be examined by a legal entity for veracity and inclusion.

Julian's response to Dawg was a couple of days- by my clock CDT- later and he had posted in the interim. Why then, after a number of women had complained, was it pulled? I suggest that "libel" had nothing to do with it.

Julian may have painted himself with a brush that he is not happy about now. That was a choice he made. Attacking us is not going to change the fact that he made the initial distasteful post.

by jdclyde

I understand that you are to the point you feel you must move on.

I just wonder if that is the case, why this discussion? Hoping people will plead with you not to go?

Just don't understand it.

by jdclyde

about how you just wish you were an american.....

No, it didn't sound like he intended it as a complement.

by sleepin'dawg

I have always been amused by those who castigate and endeavour to pillory the US isn the courts of world opinion. What usually stops most of them cold, is when I ask them to consider the alternatives. Would they have preferred being a captive ally nation of the former Soviet Union??? Maybe they would like to become cozy with the Peoples Republic of China??? Most of these pissant nations such as Austrakia for one, are jealois of the US and the sway it exercises in world affairs while nobody pays serious attention totheir bleatings. Take note that Australia is not even considered to be a worthy candidate for the G8.

I like Americans and the US but I have no intention of becoming an American citizen. As I said, I'm proid to be Canadian and that does not necessitate my hating the US. I am of the opinion that those who claim they do so, will be the first to cry for help from the US whenever their piddly little countries are thereatened by any disaster, either natural or political, Add to that that most people, Americans and Canadians included, have little or no knowledge of international affairs or current events.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by tig2

I have no alternative but to wish you well in your next endeavour. May it be fruitful to you and may you revel in whatever glory it brings you.

It seems apparent that we will be able to move on without your input.

Business 101- no one is irreplaceable.

by zlitocook

Well that?s the best part of being a Techrepublic member! We all have the same interests and idea's. But that is why the USA is great! Every one can express an opinion and not get (put in jail, shot or just disappear) well in most cases.
And the ladies should always be given the best treatment we can give! Because they can always get back at us at another time.

by vanessaj

The "USA" statement - Hurray!
The "ladies" statement - oooooo, cold. True but cold!

by tig2

And the seeming inability on the part of SOME people, I guess I over-reacted. Fact is that I have been irritated on this point for a couple of days- Dawg has been accused but few bothered to actually READ what he wrote.

I know that you were not accusing Dawg. And I wasn't jumping on you- just jumping.

Sorry...

by jdclyde

you have to stop letting people get to you.

No one can upset you unless you LET them upset you.

be well my dear, and happy fourth!

:x

by sleepin'dawg

I'm more concerned about you and watching you get yourself so worked up over so trivial a matter. You have so many other more important things on your plate, that you shouldn't be wasting your energies bothering with the likes of Julian or trying to protect me.

You still have so many things to do before you, things much more important than this garbage. As much as I appreciate your support, I would prefer you maintain your focus on the important tasks you have ahead of you. I realize the hijacking of your TR identity upset you but those of us who have come to know you, were not for an instant taken in by it. This Julian business is just more of the detritus, left behind by the presence of a few mindless imbeciles who endeavour to spoil TR for the majority. They should not be permitted to distract you from the more important aims in your life. You have an important job to do; don't allow the miniscule intellects of the Julians and Stubby_Ms of this world distract you from it.

Hats off to you lady, give it your best shot, I know you're going to succeed; if for no other reason than you have to. ;)

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:) B-)

by ontheropes

It?s time to start watching for TR noobs. Has anyone else noticed that the air is a little fresher so far today? If ?it? stays gone, maybe I can cancel the wire-wheel, sandblast and steam-cleaning appointment I made for myself. I will admit that just posting a reply to one of ?it?s? discussions makes me feel a bit sick. Maybe that?s what ?it? meant by calling us sickos.

"It" could've been the "Jacob Sanderson" tomp12 too. Wouldn't surprise me now.

by j.lupo

to that particular thread, which was pulled. Generally I at least scan most of the threads to see if there is something interesting to participate in. That one didn't even entice me - should I have looked at the beginning?

BTW: this is the first time said they were leaving TR and then they showed up again. If I remember correctly we had two VERY large threads last year about someone leaving and that time OZ was being blamed for it. ;) It was funny to watch and see the responses. This doesn't seem to be as much fun from what I am reading.

by heml0ck

I generally enjoy the posts of the people in this thread, but I find most of the flame wars to be.... worthless.
I'm really glad I missed most of the Ethiopia thread....

by shellbot

I'm saddened that on my first day back from holidays, the first post i read is one like this.

I have no idea what the original posting was, so i'm not going to say anything about it.

Has there been much of this going on ..I thought things were going to cool down for a while?

Oh JD, you did not wish me a Happy Birthday, you are going to have to make that up to me now or else i will be mean to you ]:)

by ontheropes

It was spread over more than one discussion but here's my synopsis.

[b]Dawg and Others: [/b]"You want answers?"

[b]Jardinier: [/b]"I think I'm entitled to them."

[b]Dawg and Others: [/b]"You want answers?"

[b]Jardinier:[/b]"I want the truth!"

[b]Dawg and Others:[/b] "You can't handle the truth!!!
Listen up Jardinier, tomp12 or whatever you're calling yourself these days, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You Jardinier? We have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for the US and Canada and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know: that war, while tragic, probably saves lives. And our existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about...

[i](insert various truths here)[/i]

"We use words like honor, code, loyalty... We use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom provided by others, then questions the manner in which it was provided! We'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, we suggest you STFU! Either way, we don't give a damn what you think!"

[b]Jardinier:[/b]"Waaa Waaa Waaa"

Me-That's how I remember it.

by gadgetgirl

great synopsis, but that was the clean version....

Personally, I think Shell would understand a whole lot more if you gave her a precis of the muckier version....

Don't worry, she's seen Jules' posts before, and she's old enough... :D Just make sure that you don't put the words like "fiancee" and "Addisu" together more than once, in case the PR PTB have tweaked their monitors! (oof! painful!) :p

GG

In the Uk, hot, humid, hot, no air, hot, sweaty, hot, itchy, hot, and overcooked in an office with no aircon, currently 89F.....hot. Frazzled.

by rob mekel too

Late but still:
[b]Happy Birthday Shellbot.[/b]
Hope you will have much more of those fine days to come! :)

:x
Rob

ps Had some trouble on my account there of my too account

[i] edited for ps[/i]

by shellbot

The coolest thing happened for my Birthday!

:X

In Spain, June 23 is a holiday of sorts and they let off fireworks the whole night. So the whole evening was amazing as everyone was down at the beach setting them off..plus a lot of hotels and the neighboring towns as well. It was fantastic and went from dark till about 2 am.

* I was curious about the name change...

by jdclyde

Shell! First, always great to have you popping in!

Second, a day of drunken celebration to honor the day of your birth is called for!

Sorry you had to soil your heals with Julians post to start it off. Looking at the "hot" discussion list, I see a happy birthday shellbot discussion going, so I shall be leaving this dark place of Julians shadow and join you over there!

happy birthday to you again!

jd

:x

by shellbot

gg...i hear ya..its the same in Dublin..i am going to melt. I'm looking for any excuse to leave the office early.

So far the best idea i've got is to staple my finger and say i've to go get a tetnus shot. Not sure its a runner though :)

old enough..*sigh* yes, that i am..well if anyone wants to, they can private mail me the details of the mucky business...

so what else went on in the the past 2 weeks that i've not been around for????

by shellbot

i missed it..i slipped to 68 by the time i read your post!!!

dang it anyways..thats the only way i'm gonna see 6...

oh hang on, i should be quiet now shouldn't i

by tig2

Glad to "see" you back after your holiday.

Don't concern yourself re: Julian. It was a "must miss" and besides, NeverBusted gave you a good synopsis.

Hope you had a GREAT birthday!

by hal 9000

Your current [b]Heatwave[/b] is the mild spring temps here. ;\

I have a very vivid memory of the last time I was in the UK their I was dragged to Brighton Beach shivering in a Great Coat and all the other warm things that I could find while these [b]Mad Poms[/b] where swimming in water with Ice still floating in it and complaining about how Hot it was. B-)

Other than the total lack of heat & Black Ice I loved the UK and I'm hoping to get there next year to visit the Isle of Man once again at the [b]Right time of the Year[/b] but first I'll have to organise a Motorcycle for myself to ride during the days as that [b]Black Ice[/b] is a killer and it forms anytime there is no sun during your summer. During winter it's not even safe to walk anywhere sober at least when you're drunk legless up have an excuse for allowing the Black Ice to sit you on your rear end quite quickly. I now understand why all the designer shows in the UK have [b]Running Spikes[/b] on them. :p

Col ]:)

by rob mekel

screenshot to have :0 [i]oops.[/i]

and you were slippin in to 68 :0

Great to have you back Shellbot :) I love the way your mind works :D ;)

Rob

by shellbot

i'll take that as a compliment :x

Most people don't like the way my mind works ]:)

your up early..or late..what continent are you on?

by rob mekel

Well must be honnest it was an idea of JD as he started that, on the mess off TR not letting people in, lots of 404, no contacts, no my ... environment, etc etc.

But is slightly improving so using my good old self again.

Now, do you have any idea on how to kill this alter ego of mine? It seems there is no un-sub-scrib option on TR-accounts ?:|

Rob

by tig2

I have a TiggerTwo2, I think that NeverBusted has one, JD has one and now you. I think that the answer is to just let the personality die out- if it doesn't get used, it may just go away.

I should think that TR will notice that there are a number of "alter-egos" about and may choose to kill them in a sane and merciful manner after notifying us that execution is planned. Or not- TR has quite enough problems just now...

by rob mekel

Maybe that is the best way to handle my (our) alter-ego('s).
And by the gathering of all the posts they're getting, I think they have enough to take care off. :D ;)

All weirdness put aside, I hope they get it solved real quick. It must be a burden on them not getting the bug fixed. It would drive me crazy for sure (that is for the part of me that is not crazy already [i] yeah I do know myself a little bit :) [/i])

Rob

by rob mekel

and is/was intended as so. :x

Same is true for you ain't it?
I'm located in the Netherlands, so Europe.

Why on earth would people don't like the way your mind works? As I see it, it's working just fine/great. Don't let you be told otherwise!

Rob

by shellbot

we almost neighbours! :)

ah, i've fond memories of spending hours in the airport there :)

ah normally i don't go into TR till closer to lunch, but i just can't face work this morning. i call it the "returned from holidays and don't give a carp" syndrome.
its even stronger than normal as i'm looking for a new job, so i'm kinda not bothered to start much work. i know, not the right attitude to take, but its just not going to be a great week.

by dmambo

I've been saying for quite some time that Dawg and his sicko friends should clean up their acts. I have held the torch high trying to lead these perverts down the Path of Purity. So far, my words have fallen on deaf ears.

Thank God! ;) ]:)

by shellbot

oh my god..if i had known there were perverts on here i would not have joined in the first place... ]:)

sorry for the inane posts..i'm trying not to do any work today and i think the heat is getting to me :)

by dmambo

until you get rid of the cat avatar. If you need suggestions on what to do with the actual cat, I can provides several imaginative ideas.

But other than that, hope it's going well and that holidays were fine!

by shellbot

thats my kitty!!!
His name is Levi. He's a fantastic cat, he cries if you don't pick him up and when he's happy he starts purring a lot and drools..its so cute..

(i'm sensing this probably is not what you want to hear :) )

Ok, give me a day or 2 to find a suitable replacement.

its all good Mambo :)

by jdclyde

you seem to have that affect on more than I knew it turns out? :D

Ignore the Mambo. :p Cats rock! You have not seen funny until you have seen my cat chase my dog around the house! ;\

by tig2

Don't kowtow to DMambos prejudices regarding cats. He is a hater- don't give in.

You and I know how important felines are. I personally live with three cats- wouldn't try to keep house without a cat. They reduce stress and keep your blood pressure in line.

Just because DMambo has an unhealthy disregard for kitties doesn't make them bad.

The best replacement for your avatar is another cat!

by shellbot

huge drips of cat drool all over your shoulder. god bless him.

i think when he was nuetered it took all the good sense from him, but i love him all the same.

ok..i'm keeping the cat..
and yes..cats do Rock..and i'd say it won't be too long before we get a 3rd cat for the house :)

by jdclyde

with three cats, you are going to have to start giving equal time!

Maybe even time to make an animated gif!

one cat, one dog. That does me fine. Cat is always on my lap and dog is always at my feet. Where would there be room for another? ;\

by j.lupo

I grew up a dog lover. I have also had my share of cats (about 15, with 12 dogs). Grew up with the house full of different animals because they are all so great in their own way. Rabbits, guinea pigs, gerbals, mice, dogs, cats, hermit crabs, fish, etc. They all were great and yes I have had them all under one roof at one time. Lots and lots of them.

Cats and dogs are the best to me. Our last great dane was raised by my cat who was raised by a previous great dane. So that cat thought he was a great dane, the great dane though she was a cat. They slept curled up together and I was afraid that if Bandit (the great dane) took a deep breath then Eboneezer (the cat) would be inhaled.

What was fun to watch was the two of them raising my first pug. They were just like parents to the guy and he didn't know what he was after that.

by sleepin'dawg

Frankly I prefer dogs but I've had my share of cats too. One was called Alfie, from the movie of that name, another was called Chairman Meow. There were others but those two stick out for being total nuts. The Chairman was a Siamese who thought he was a dog, Alfie was a stray that was positive he was a dog. Both sired many litters of cats throughout the neighbourhood.

All my cats got along with my dogs and the dogs liked my cats but were deadly to strange cats, that might come around.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by j.lupo

Both cats and dogs are know for there Parrot like qualities, just ask mine if you need proof. I had a friend who's cat always curled around his neck and stayed there regardless of what my friend was doing.

by mickster269

I'm partial to Chocolate Chip , or M&M ...but any cookie is a good cookie.

What kind of coffee / tea do you want?

I'm from the old school - I like my coffee hot and black. None of this "Double latte half mocha diet whip with sprinkles" vor me.

by shellbot

thats a lot of pets..
i must ask though..hermit crabs?

can't say i'd have thought of that one for a pet

by shellbot

i was waiting for someone to bring this to a whole new level..i was afraid i'd have to do it myself, thanks for doing it for me Dawg :x

dogs are good too..i am waiting to get one, as right now i don't have the time to devote to a dog and thats not fair to the pooch..so will have to wait till i am working less.

by j.lupo

Well they are not that interesting, but they were easy to care for and clean up after. As they grow they shed their shells so you have to give them a bigger one when it is time. I once watched one of them change shells. It was interesting.

They aren't much in the way of interaction that you would have with other pets (especially cats and dogs) but they are good for learning about pets with.

I have always loved animals and enjoyed learning about them. I didn't live in an area for horses or farm type animals - unfortunately. I always wanted to learn more, but I won't support the places around where I am now. They are the pits. I turned a few in. There is no excuse for poor conditions for the animals.

by sleepin'dawg

whatever are you doing living amongst all those bog trotters??? Lovely people but they do seem to insist upon fisticuffs at all there social events whether baptisms, marriages or funerals.

They get hatched, matched and dispatched, always in the presence of a fight or three. There is seldom any rancor and the participants are often the best of friends the next day. It's not often you find yourself being threatened with a thrashing, while having Joyce quoted to you.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by shellbot

hahaha!

I dunno Dawg..i just sort of ended up over here. Eventually you get used to it :)

Its not really so bad..they could do with importing some Kraft Dinner though..it would improve the food selections

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