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by jterry

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Am I the only one who is tired of the misinformation that some poeple are spouting off. No matter what subject is being discussed it seems like there are a few individuals who want to input some statistics that I think they pulled out of there A**. It's hard to tell what information is useful when you have to sift through the garbage to find it.

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by jdclyde

How can you make this wild claim of it being "everywhere"? Have you BEEN everywhere to know this? Was it in a poll? A scientific study? Is it in the bible/Koran somewhere?

I find it insulting that you would spread such false information with no regard to the truth! ;\
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Edited to hide the fact that I misused a word and got caught by the spelling police.....

by dmambo

That squiggly thing at the end of the sentence is what is called a "question mark." I'm afraid I can't cite the source for this little grammatical device, but perhaps you can look it up in a first-grade text book at your local library.

(Seeing in my mind JD seething with anger, but knowing that he can't fight the logic he has been faced with. It's a good thought, well enjoyed)

by jdclyde

"they" do say that 80% of all stats are made up..... ;\

This is why I always ask people for supporting information, and NOT from an advocate site or a blog.

It is funny how people take at face value something they like the sound of.

Can you believe someone the other day confused the abunaces of Windows systems with windows being the "best os". truely funny stuff there! :D

the politics gets even worse.

by dmambo

Politics is worse. According to one report, 81% of Republican congressmen aren't worth a sh!t.

by jdclyde

it is too late for you to come around here sucking up to me by agreeing with me! I see what your really like and the games you play with people!

NOTE: your "fact" was wrong. It is 98% of ALL congressmen/women.

Like I would ever defend a congressman! :p

by jamesrl

Sometimes, there are few studies which have meaningful data, and you use the only data that exists.

In other cases there is an abundance of information, some of it seemingly contradictory, and people chose to believe some and ignore the existance of others. Its easier that way, and intellectually lazy.

Opinion polls, as one example, are a snapshot in time, and its important to know the context. The polls for presidential popularity will change if you do one just before and just after a state of the union address. That doesn't mean either one was wrong, its just important to look at the context.
The infamous Dewey beats Truman headline came from a poll, but one taken a week before the election. People back then were not entirely used to rapid changes in public opinion, but they happen. A week can be a very long time in politics, especially the last week before an election.

James

James

by faradhi

That was also the first time Gallup used telephones. Since at that time only the rich had them, it skewed the results.

by entawanabi

There are a few ways to rectify these things: this is from someone revilled here, First you ask what you can do and how you are allowwed to do it, second you see that your Conduct is something that is not a problem - Shall we cast stones Dmambo? - Last is there a way to sit there and say I know a part of an answer and mayhap someone else might be able to get you 'THE FIX'.

I'm not from here and need work this is a good venue to get some, I also attended American Speaking Universities and Colleges, not English as it does not work consistantly in computers American does; I have a number of degrees supportting my Professor Emertis in Computer Operations and a Doctoriate in Robotics. Guess what Not only do I not know what you are talking about sometimes I also know that you all are addressing and fixxing problems that are there and make no sense to me to do that way on worn out equipment. But Then I am not the customer nor am I the business with the customer.

By the way you should be able to get a trans-script at Penn State.

Finally: this is what you get when the equipment is about a Hundred years old, sometimes the keys work and sometimes they don't.

by jamesrl

But I have to say sometimes your posts surpass the Friday Yuk for their humour, however unintentional.

There is no American Language, although there may be American spellings and American pronuciations and usage of English.

Hundred year old computer equipment? Only if someone in the future builds a time machine and takes some equipment back in time. Anything older than 60 years is in a museum.

James

by entawanabi

What's the manufactureing Dates on your stuff or if you don't own any then those that let you use there's and remember that Only Bill Gates comes from outer space, as well as the USS Archer.

by dmambo

Thank you sir (or madam) for pointing out my poor conduct. If begging forgiveness will do any good, then I am standing with hand out hoping for alms.

I am humbled.

by jdclyde

While I didn't follow all of what you wrote, that was the single most understandable thing I have seen you write.

Either you are getting better at communicating or I am getting better at comprehension? :D

by faradhi

While growing up, my father would always tell me things he knew were wildly untrue. The degree of wildness lessened as I grew up. The purpose was to teach me to look at all information critically regardless of where the information is coming from.

The point is that all information is sifted through the authors' or speakers point of view. Therefore, you cannot take anything as the God's honest truth.

As for posting on a board such as this. I know that I have posted somethings that are erroneous. I am sure others have as well. At the time I posted, I felt the information was accurate as I understood it. We all make mistakes.

One of my favorite quotes from Mr. Twain is, "There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics" Or something like that.

by jdclyde

"Education teaches us how much is left to be learned".

I framed that and have it in my office on the wall. It is my motto, sort of.

The more I learn about computers, the more I realize I don't know sh!t about computers because there is just so much to learn and so much new stuff coming out all the time.

I have also learned that you are to disregard completely people that run around claiming to be an "expert" on something.

The difference between thinking your great and BEING great. It isn't how many times you tell people how great you are, it is how many times others tell YOU how great you are.

I have recently taken on stressing to challenge what you hear, and if you hear something that fits perfectly with what you WANT to believe, then you should really doubt it. (politics especially)

by faradhi

When I started in computers, there was a time where I got a little discouraged because I discovered that I would never be able to learn all that I needed.

I still feel a little incompentent. I guess that when I stop feeling that way, I need to be knocked off my horse.

by entawanabi

The rest of us on the North American Continent speak some form of American Derived from the Base language " American Standard English By MacGregor For the formal name but the Nomenclature comes under American.

by jamesrl

So American is the language used in Mexico, El Salvador, Guatamala and Panama? Boy I love coming here and learning new things everyday.

And sorry if I beg to differ, I trust the Chicago Manual of Style (E.B. White, who also wrote Charlottes Web and Stuart Little). They and those I deal with on multi-language issues (I am leading a million dollar project on a creating muli-lingual software) call it English. And somehow, I trust them more than you.

Give me a site on MacGregor - Book name, full name of the author and publishing date.

James

by jaqui

call it American, just as what's taught here in Canada is Canadian.
neither are the Queens English, the only true English. [ taught only in England, go figger ;) ]

But that's all just semantics, We can communicate with them foreigners in the ewe-nited states, for all they don't speak the Queens English.

by tony hopkinson

on finally getting your own language. Must be true, as I didn't understand what you were saying.

Not even Microsoft agree with you

English (US)
English (UK)

Mind you, that might be a point in your favour.

by dmambo

That Bill Gates comes from both outer space and the USS Archer, or that Bill Gates and the USS Archer both come from outer space?

by jamesrl

Unlike my cars, my current laptop doesn't have one, but I do know it was made in the last 5 years. My home computer was made in 2000.

Give me the brand and model number of any computer item that you have that is older than say 25 years old.

James

by jdclyde

:D

now when have you EVER known me to be "seething with anger" except for at my ex-wife?

I was just being my normal sarcastic self, as you well know! ;\

by dmambo

How dare you say "as you well know" to me. Have you surveyed my brain. How do you know what's coursing through my nanites?

(Steelers by 7 or 8, don't you think?)

by nazil dsouza

hahaha hey people i am enjoying these virtual fights hahaha as much as you guys boil up.. hey dude better keep a dictionary in your pocket rather than reading words quite differently. plus dude its time u clean that dirt off your glasses .... cool over me

by jdclyde

that I don't take sight of you on site for the cite comment! ;\

Man, can't even get someone sh!t anymore without it turning into a spelling/grammar/usage lesson! :p

by jdclyde

it is never the "same old, same old". There is always something new, something different.

I am a life time learner and much I have learned is NOT from formal training, but picked up along the way SUPLIMENTING the formal training.

I have a nice rock ready if your horsie ever gets too high! :D

by jdclyde

about that last "bout" with Mambo was that the titles actually had nothing to do with what we were discussing! :D

dictionary? Are we getting graded here? Will we get a dock in pay?

I figure if the Brits and Canuks can mangle spelling, then so can I! :^O

by jdclyde

I'm not THAT bad at spelling! (am I?) :O

Twit, you could at least lie to spare my feeling! :D

by sleepin'dawg

speaks American and occasionally also spells that way, more by accident than purpose. LOL :^O

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

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