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?Traditional? Cuisine

By ProtiusX ·
This might be a weird idea for a posting but I as I have been reading a lot of British writers lately I have become enamored with British culture and especially their cuisine. Now my family will be spending Christmas day with my parents and as such we will be having a VERY traditional American Christmas (i.e. Prime Rib with mashed potatoes, cooked baby carrots, green bean casserole, home made biscuits, pumpkin pie (or apple) ice cream and coffee).
I really wanted to make a British Christmas pudding and have every one try it but no one in my family seems willing to give it a try. You see when you say ?Pudding? to an American we think of vanilla, chocolate, or tapioca but definitely NOT meat. So in my research I found all kinds of cool recipes from England, Wales and Scotland that I would like to try.
Now I realize that even in this country there are a lot of differences in what one might refer to as a ?traditional? Christmas. So please, give us what is considered Traditional in your area/region/country.

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Southern Ontario Traditions

by JamesRL In reply to ?Traditional? Cuisine

Turkey is by far the favorite, followed by ham, and goose. I've never heard of prime rib for Christmas, but I've never spent Christmas anywhere but here. I have only had turkey or goose for Christmas.

As for deserts, mincemeat pie(which I will get to later) and/or Christmas pudding, along with fruits pies.

Mincemeat these days has no meat, and hasn't had for centuries. I heard an interesting discussion on CBC radio(which is also carried on NPR sometimes) about the origins - seems meat was once part of the recipe but now is non-existant. Mincemeat for the past couple of hundred years is currents, raisins, and other fruits. Christmas pudding - home made the way mom made it - was like a cross between dark christmas cake and mincemeat - full of dried fruit and dark brandy. It was steamed until it was moist and hot. Hard sauce was a caramel sauce with Brandy - yummmy.


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"Southern Ontario"?

by Montgomery Gator In reply to Southern Ontario Traditio ...

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Ontario is so far north, it is not even in the United States. I have been to the eastern corner of Ontario (Ottawa and surrounding countryside), and I did not see anything "Southern" about Ontario. Being from Florida, living in Alabama, and having a grandfather from South Carolina, I think I have a good idea what "Southern" means, and it is not Ontario.

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Red Neck Vs. White Neck

by ProtiusX In reply to "Southern Ontario"?

I feel a song comming on... If a red neck goes to a family reunion to pick up chicks then what does a white neck do? ;o)

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Do you have a copyright?

by JamesRL In reply to "Southern Ontario"?

Can you have a "southern" part of Alaska, or England or Scotland?

Actually when you leave Detroit to go to Windsor, and cross the bridge, you are headed south(South Southeast to be exact). Seattle is farther north than Toronto.

You've seen a small corner of a huge province. There is no set line for Southern Ontario - though the government does distinguish Northern from Southern by electoral district - northern districts getting some tax breaks and being eligible for certain economic development programs. Generally south of Lake Simcoe or highway 17 is "south".

The big difference is southern Ontario(or more correctly South West Ontario) has 80% of the population, is heavily industrialized. Northern Ontario is resource based -lumber, mining etc.

Ottawa is kinda half way - some parts are more like the north, others more like the south. Its in the Canadian shield so lots of rocks and pine trees which is not typical of South Western Ontario.

Toronto actually has the most northern tip of a "southern" ecosystem called Black Oak Savannah. It can be seen in High Park.

Its about 200 miles north of Toronto until you get to any real wilderness. Its only slightly farther to Wheeling West Virginia from Toronto than it is from Toronto to Ottawa, and Thunder Bay is twice as far to get to as Wheeling.

As for copyrights I am only half kidding. There was a recent dispute regarding a whisky maker in Cape Breton Nova Scotia, who labels a whisky Glen Breton. The scottish whisky distillers association is suing claiming that the Cape Breton distillers can't use the word Glen. You can't stick a pin in a map of Nova Scotia without hitting a Glen - its the word Valley in Gaelic, and there are glens everywhere, including the glen where the distillery resides and names itself after.

Anyway the vast majority of Ontarians consider themselves "Southern" Ontarians and we live south of the states of Washington, Montana and North Dakota. Toronto is 43 degrees North, and Northern California's border is about 41 degrees North.

I have to say that this week, after a freak cold snap, I wish I was in the US "South" instead of Southern Ontario.


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by Salamander In reply to ?Traditional? Cuisine

I was introduced to Turducken a couple of years ago, by some friends in the South. Apparently, a turkey is stuffed with a duck, which is stuffed with a chicken. It is something far beyond my culinary skill, but it was an interesting curiousity.

Where I'm from, we generally do the standard turkey or ham, mashed potatoes, deviled eggs, green bean casserole, biscuits, cranberries, meatballs, seven-layer salad, pumpkin pie, cheesecake, and usually fudge. Guarantees a food coma for days.

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I'v heard of this

by ProtiusX In reply to Turducken

One of the ladies I work with asked me to bring her (I like to hunt) a duck so that her husband can make this for christmas. I has never heard of this before but I geuss she'll let me know how it tastes.

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My understanding...

by Salamander In reply to I'v heard of this that they are sometimes deep fried. The one I experienced was not, but I suppose one has to use the deep fryer for something in the dead of winter!

Honestly, I thought it was okay, but I wouldn't want it every year.

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I don't know about this

by Montgomery Gator In reply to Turducken

I would not want to eat anything that has "turd" as part of its name.

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by Salamander In reply to I don't know about this

That never registered with me before. Good point.

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Southern Winter Holidays

by BFilmFan In reply to ?Traditional? Cuisine

I would sorely be tempted to say "Well listen to Jeff Foxworthy's Redneck Christmas," but as a Southerner myself, that would be tempting the people of South Georgia to invade Florida just to find the traiorous Atlanta *******, but I digress....

Avoid any Scottish recipes for haggis, unless you have a cast iron stomach. I've managed to avoid eating it by claiming it isn't Kosher and highly suspect that a number of my Scottish-descended friends have wanted to use the same excuse!

In the South in my home, we have often done as yourself and combined interesting menu choices during the holidays. I've had Eastern european relatives bringing goulashes and Lajkota relatives bringing corn and "guwa bi mnuna," which means and is bread, a stone ground bread.

I saw a recipe book a few years back, which I wish I had purchased, which was loaded with recipes for holiday meals from across the world. I made a pretty good figgie pudding a few years back from a recipe I found here:

The only holiday tradition that I can tell you for sure that my family has to have is lots of food, family and friends and a celebration that we are all together.

Have a great time experimenting with new traditions!

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