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I BELIEVE HUGGING IS ALLOWED AS LONG AS THERE IS NO GROPING INVOLVED!

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only allowed

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if it is the woman that initiates it AND she does it for everyone.

I would NEVER think about going up and giving a coworker a hug, in this sexual discurmination sue happy world we live in.

Besides, hugging like groping is like fishing sober. It just isn’t done. ]:)

would you ever consider receiving a hug

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from a female co-worker?

If she is working for me directly or unless it’s my birthday; never.

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There are to many caveats involved. It’s one way for idle rumours to start.

When I was in the army, you could get into trouble for an offense which wouldn’t be on the books. If it was serious enough, a person could be charged with, [b]Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline.[/b] Accepting a random hug or kiss from one female employee could fall into that category. Now, it would be excusable if they all hugged and kissed you.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Okay, DAWG, LET ME ASK YOU THIS:

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IF YOUR MOTHER WANTED A HUG FROM YOU, WOULD YOU GIVE HER ONE?

If you are implying a normal filial hug, no problem but………………..

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if you are implying something or anything incestuous, no. Definitely not. your next question will probably ask if it were my daughter.

Same rule applies; no incest and in my opinion any SOB who did something like that shoulld be locked up for life and the keys thrown away.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

At work? Does your mom work with you?

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Ha!

There are three things you should never do in life.

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1): See sausage being made.

2): See your parents having sex.

3): Give a hug to anyone in the workplace unless you enjoy being sued for sexual harassment.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

There are FOUR things you should never do in life

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You don’t tug on Superman’s cape.
You don’t spit into the wind.
You don’t pull the mask off the ol’ Lone Ranger.
And you don’t mess around with Slim.

Edited to change Jim to Slim. After all, Slim did put Jim on the floor.

You’re showing your age.

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What would Jim Croc? do (about hugging that is)?

I think the last verse of the song

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did just that and say you don’t mess around with slim. 🙂 I love that song too.

what happened to these rules?

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Whatever happened to the advice:

Never play cards with a guy named Doc
Never eat at a place called Mom’s
Never draw to an inside straight
Never go to bed with anyone who has more problems than you

p.s. Although the Jim Croce-based advice is good, too. It is a great song, btw.

i wuz lucky

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Couple of yrs ago was in the lucky position of having some really pretty chick start coming up to me and hugging me, very nice, but coz i was younger, happily married and naive thats all that happenned …

but

it didnt take long for stories to spread
luckily im not the sort of person that gets
involved in politics (being the geek and all)
but it could very easily have gone all pear shaped

Now that im older and wizer i realize how lucky i was and would steer as far as possible away
from any form of contact

very lucky

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because it doesn’t matter if you DID something, if everyone else thinks you did something and it gets back to that wife at home.

Trust is a hard thing to get, and almost impossible to get back once lost.

Rumors don’t need hugs to start

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Rumors fly around my workplace about just about everyone. It was rumored I was involved with a receptionist simply because she does a lot of work for me so I’m talking to her a lot. Not that I would be unwilling to hug her but I have not & likely never will.

Pretty sad, lodestone

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the lowlife scum that gets hired these days that have nothing better to do with their miserable time than to talk others down.

Guess all you can do is try to stay above it and not give anyone anything to talk about.

which is better…

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an office where everyone gossips, or one like mine where everyone could care less about each other and never really talks to each other anyway, so who cares? Bunch of Lone Rangers. It’s really weird.

Neither are healthy office life

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so I choose option “C”. Neither of the above.

People that gossip are hateful back stabbers, and I want nothing to do with them.

People that are lone rangers are better, because they are not hateful, just indifferent. Still not a place where you can ENJOY your work though.

I have some of each where I am at, so I ignore the gossipers.

Although some might actually put ME in that lone ranger status because of this?

Naw – you are just a

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law unto your self. if they can’t see it, then too bad on them.

Though I have to agree. Why can’t we have work places where the “gossip” is about work issues and finding solutions? Why can’t we have teamwork that focuses on finishing projects? Why? I don’t get it.

Just yesterday I had a “confrontation” with our lead DBA. I am so tired of being told that nobody is responsible for doing anything. I basically told him, if they grant me the access, I would do it myself since no one is accountable and wants to get this project finished. All I get is no resources available, we don’t do that work ( A DBA doesn’t do initial table build and loads????) and so on.

jd, jl…

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—–jd——————–

I’m sure you don’t even have a cold shoulder to give, if someone wanted to talk or need help with something. Although I probably paint the other techs here too badly. They have been helpful at times, just never wanting to take it further than the shortest answer to the simplest “hello” most of the time. There is one person here that is very talkative and friendly. I just wish there could be more comeraderie, I suppose.

—-end jd—————————

—-jl——————————–

I should be grateful, I suppose, that I don’t have to put up with your frustrations. I have been in offices like that and reported to those who play games like that, too. You just want to get the job done, but those in power seem to have other agendas. It’s hard to care more about the project than the one running it is, isn’t it? BTW how did that work out for you?

Vanessa – it hasn’t resolved anything

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It just gets worse. 🙁 Under six sigma (which is what this company follows) I now am righting red flag documents trying to detail why this project is going to fail and how we can fix it. These are hourly. Unfortunately, I can’t even get the right people to work with me to fix the problem AND I can’t even get my own work done.

This whole situation is just going down down down. I am a good tech lead normally. Unfortunately, I fell into a position I was truly not qualified for and never applied for. I have tried to see it as an opportunity, but I have reached the point where for once in my 20+ year career I want to quit a contract.

No hugging

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It doesn?t matter who initiates it. Unless I?m acting as an agent for my employer and have initiated the meeting I don?t even shake hands upon greeting. I have to know you first. It would be best for you to KNOW me before you touch me and if you did, you?d know I don?t like to be touched. Handshaking as a custom started for a reason.
I will proudly hold hands with my wife in public though. I never said I wasn’t quirky.

I?ll guarandamntee you that if anybody at my wife?s work gave her a hug she: (A) Didn?t see it coming and (B) it would be the last time they?d do it. Harassment wouldn?t be the issue.

I have a ?work face? as I?ll bet most of us do. That work persona is similar yet different from my at home sitting ?round the pool with the friends persona. Some of the best friends I have became friends after meeting them at work. Business is business though. I expect them to treat me as if it is and understand when they do even when I may not like it.

I don?t do the ?office politics? or the touchie-feelie thing well. Ask anybody. When you?re around me, you hardly have to feel that you?re walking on eggshells or treading thru a minefield but save the hugs for your wife, kids, Mother and Father and maybe your best friend on very rare occasions.

It?s interesting that you used hugging and groping in the same sentence.

edit: To be fair, JD hugged and groped closer together in the same sentence. Understandable I think. Almost looked like wishing. As far as him NEVER thinking about it… Yeah right, sure.

I definitely don’t think I’d be shaking HIS hand, IF you know what I mean.

wow

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went back and read my other post, and even I am shocked at the inventive way of spelling! 😀

And it is better to be groping than surfing porn alone? ;\ Shake that! :p

At least

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you left the “r” in

Personal space

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I hug family and close friends. Frankly, I don’t want to hug my co-workers. Not to say I don’t like them, I do. I just have a large personal space. I have a co-worker who hugs everyone at the drop of a hat. When he does that, half the time he’s hugging me with my arms clamped to my side. I know it’s not sexual as I’m female and he’s batting for the other team, but I still don’t like it. I will have to gently say something one day because if I make a big deal of it in front of everyone else, it makes it worse. The best policy is NO HUGGING. Whether you like it or not, you don’t know if the other person is comfortable even being touched. I remember the hug I got from someone who didn’t know it was my first day back from having shoulder surgery with 2 inches of bone scraped out of the joint. It was evident when I screamed in pain and was sobbing. She felt awful about it and doesn’t hug anymore.

Okay, I’m convinced. No more. . . . .

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….tree-hugging at my workplace. I’ll get rid of that silly paper recycling program first thing tomorrow!

The sickest thing…

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about this topic is that the government now regulates our expressions of affection.

you are right

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I have a dictator at work. She won’t let me hug my female coworker.

did you ever place the question mark

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on the why this so called “dictator” forbids you to hug your female coworker. Or is it that you just find everybody a dictator that doesn’t give in your way.

Rob

Is that allowed?

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What if you were both female? Sounds like you may have a case for sexual harrassment.

How come that the government makes

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these regulations.
Did you ever think on the why of this.

The most likely it will be that some of our fellow humans do harass others … even tho if they say NO, what I think shouldn’t be nesserary as it is NO by default.

It only will be YES IF SOMEONE SAYS SO!

Rob

And we all thought …

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that the sexual revolution would free us from all the moral oppression! Instead, it’s only getting worse with the government making laws and handing out punishments. So much for privacy.

Back in the days of the “moral oppressors,” people knew the unwritten social codes and usually followed them. We didn’t need the sexual harrassment police.

John Adams said that without moral consciences, there would not be enough police in the nation to enforce all the necessary laws.

I still hug people. Touch is a proven human need.

Hugging is therapeutic

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lodestone wrote “I still hug people. Touch is a proven human need.”

I agree. Maybe its corporate culture or the setting of the workplace. I work in a healthcare setting. There are two specific nurses I always hug. These ladies hug every patient and other employees. Approach with your arms open wide and smiles come across their faces. I can tell you that I come away from that hug energized. These ladies are such givers of human energy. And you know what? Their patients are always the quickest to recover. If only we could bottle what they have.

That’s a “lode” if I ever heard one…

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I am not a “bra-burner” for feminism by any means. I don’t agree with as much as I do agree with when it comes to feminism. However; first of all, it did bring more women into the marketplace and gave them jobs other than the barefoot and pregnant duites, in either the kitchen or the bedroom. Women now work alongside men using their skills and talents and intelligence because of the public interest feminism spurred.

This is different than the sexual revolution you mentioned. I don’t know anyone who ever thought the sexual revolution would “free us from moral oppression”. Unless you are talking about those who towed the line that “free sex with anybody and anything – no rules apply” would free us in our sexuality. Those who live that way are freed – from sanity. If you want to NOT have a moral conscience, sexually or otherwise, then you’re the devil.

Morality is essential to civilization. It’s what we expect from others – respect, rights as individuals, etc. If we don’t give these things, then we can’t expect to get them ourselves. Morality is how we interact with each other. Some find this oppresive until they hit the age of 3 or so, at which point we begin to understand that “consequences” are a good thing – not an oppression. They keep boundaries in place that allows us to interact in a civilized manner.

We have always had sexual oppression – unless you’re male – the unwritten social codes undermined and degraded women as second-class citizens, if that. When these were challenged, and women entered the workplace in force and multitude, they didn’t seem to have an issue with it. I don’t remember any news articles of women “harassing” men that they went to work for.

I believe it has been the men, mostly, that these laws were written for…at least in the majority, to address harrassment of women under their employ. It is the abuse of power for sexual misconduct in a plethora of venues within the workplace that caused the government to step in and teach the male population how to act and interact with the women they now worked with.

And you don’t know whether or not women needed the sexual harassment police then, but they would probably just consider it “domestic” issues and not their job. Women had no voice and took what they got, didn’t they?

John Adams was right, he knew the neccessity that men govern themselves. When they don’t – that’s when the police, government, community agencies, etc. have to get involved.

I still hug, too. And I have always hugged at work, if appropriate, but I don’t blame sexual harrassment on it not being the “olden days”.

Simple Answer

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No

why would you say “NO”?

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why would you say “NO”?

MY even simpler answer

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YES!

nope not simpler

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as the first are 2 and the latter are 3 characters. lol

Rob

Well, Jesus Chrystler

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Well, Jesus Chrystler

What is your agenda Tom?

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Oh yeah, got your peer mail.

Yes I hug my mom, but as I don’t WORK with my mom, I don’t hug her in the work place.

Your trying to get people to justify something you want to do anyways. If you didn’t want to hear other opinions, you shouldn’t have asked. And regardless of if you like the answers, they are all supported with good reason.

In this sue happy world, most people will not recieve your hugs the way they are intended. This is not a reflection on you, but them and they way our society has become.

I would resist this if I was you.

You are correct and here is another thought

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I had a situation in one company where such situations were against HR policy. Why? Here’s the story.

Jane and Bob worked together for years on different projects. When either had questions they were always comfortable going to the other for an opinion. One day Bob showed Jane something on his computer and Jane leaned over Bob’s shoulder to look. About a week later, Jane had an issue and Bob came over to look at her computer screen. Bob leaned over Jane and later that day Bob was called to HR. He had broken the sexual harassmant policy. Jane did not report Bob, but someone else had.

This is a true story. Though the laws have gotten a little more fail, Jane would not be accused of SH, but Bob would be. Today it just doesn’t matter, it just isnt a good idea. Even a pat on the back is considered wrong.

Take JD’s advise and just refrain from hugging in the workplace. Keep it all professional and you will be fine.

The governemt controls our afrection to on e another

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But I am glad you hug your mother

No agenda here here

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but trying to clarify a few things here!

talking about hugging mom…

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My mom was my home room teacher in highschool for a number of years. As it was a small school, everyone knew she was my mom, but hugging was strictly off limits! While we were at school, she was a teacher, and I was a student.
At home we reverted to our natural inclination (lots of hugs!)
My point is that in the work place, certain behaviours are not appropriate.

I don’t think

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that hugging someone should result in a lawsuit, however, that is just my opinion. With that being said, I would be completely uncomfortable if anyone I worked with gave me a hug. It’s not that I don’t like human contact, but I don’t want it from just anyone. That is way to intimate for me.

your are right

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but that depends where you get the hug: in a workplace,in public, or on the subway

isn’t

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on the subway the same as in public?

Either way, it’s just a hug. Depends on the person. And besides, it’s really not worth getting your panties in a bunch over.

I totally agree with you, Maecuff

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Special in a work-evironment I think it is better NOT to hug, even not if you are close family

Rob

It better to hug

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you meant to type “I think it is better to hug in ALL situations” e.g. your co-workers mother died!

It’s better not

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you type what I mean. As you ain’t me you can’t possibly know what I mean unless I say/write what I mean. So take it from there.

To take your example: “your co-workers mother died!”, even then I think it is NOT better to hug in a work-environment.
It is to your co-worker as what is best, words of consolation, a hand and yes even a hug is possible but let your co-worker decide what it will be. Then still, it is yours to give … or not. As it is in any situation.

Rob

No easy answer

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“No” is the best answer…it keeps the playing field level. If one person is a “touchy-feely” person, meaning they just always touch your shoulder when they talk and they do it equally with ALL personel, it’s easier to accept it from that person. However, the pervert in the office sees them getting away with it, and uses that as their justification to hug someone of the opposite sex for their own gratification. Anyone with normal intelligence can see the difference in the two touches, but how do you approach the topic? “Well Jim, we notice you like to hug Nancy a lot and we also notice your breathing pattern changes as you do it…among other things” That conversation is easier to deal with by simply allowing no touching in the work place. Unfortunately, this proverbial bad apple has ruined it for everyone.

Ironically, we have that “touchy-feely” woman in our office and even though she makes me nervous when she touches, I still gave her a compassionate, sympathetic hug when her father passed away recently. Again, any person with normal intelligence would see that my touch wasn’t perverted.

Disagree

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You can have a hundred hugs go nicely, but it only takes one more for someone to initiate an EO Report. Never a good thing to put yourself in a compromising position.

Hey, how about that?
Looks like a brand new account.
Making a controversial post.
Sending peermail.
Disregarding all opinions contrary to the one posted.

A familiar pattern.

so you always look at the dark side of hugs

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are you worried that someone my make a pass at you??!!

You go right ahead and hug…

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…left and right, and sooner or later someone will take offense. Not only will they sue [i]you[/i], but also your [i]employer[/i], and that’s a sure-fire way to get canned. It’s perhaps a sad fact about today’s society (and the excess of lawyers), but that’s the way it is. Treating grown women as “little girls” is no longer socially acceptable, and in fact, any combination of sexes displaying affection is risky in most situations. If you want to get huggy, kissy, or beyond that with any co-worker (never a subordinate or boss), keep it out of the workplace.

I have hugged people in my place of work but…

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Each situation is different. In the cases where I have chosen to hug, the other person was also a friend outside of work. My last day in contract, hugging generally occurs. But that is also an element of my personality. And there are people that I am very careful to NOT touch- it would make that person uncomfortable.

Like any hard and fast rule, there are always exceptions. I think that keeping the legal rules in mind is a requirement. I also think that it is important to know the personality of the other person- if they are uncomfortable with personal physical contact, don’t go there.

I was in the uncomfortable position of working at the same company with my partner. Our personal relationship wasn’t a secret but we were always very careful to not touch one another at work. We were also very careful to stay focused on the job at hand when we worked together on projects. It was still very difficult. The only salvation was that the rumour mill didn’t have anything to chew on- if anyone asked, they got an honest answer.

Edited- typo

makes sense

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but maybe your boss or the boss of the company has a coldhearted attitude toward hugging!

Then the answer is simple

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You don’t go there.

The potential to find yourself in an uncomfortable HR position is very high. I think that the reason you see *some* more tolerance on an employee’s last day is BECAUSE it is the last day.

The company is just trying to mitigate risk. It isn’t only the complaining employee that attracts attention, it is the policy of the company and how a complaint is handled.

Do yourself a favour, keep the hugging out of the office. It is just easier that way.

My view

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I am not all that big on physical contact from my co-workers. I have given hugs to a female co-worker who lost both her husband and her mother in less than a month’s span. I was on the receiving end (also from the other ladies) when my father-in-law passed away. I receive and give lots of hugs and kisses at the annual Christmas party. This is a social setting, away from the office.

I am not above giving certain users slight tap up the back of the head when they do something really stupid on their PC. (Only the ones that I know will not take it the wrong way.)

But I will tell you, never, ever attempt to touch me in a way that can make me uncomfortable. I have reported one person to management who groped me in a totally inapropriate way.

well!

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Jesus Chrysler

What is your problem?

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You seem to take extreme umbrage at anyone expressing a contrary opinion.

This might not be your kind of place.

Personally I believe the same as Old Bag – only in exceptional circumstances. I hugged my old boss at her mom’s funeral. I don’t hug any employee as a regular course of business.

James

you do NOT believe as OLD Bag

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I say again “YOU DO NOT BELIEVE AS OLD BAG!” You do not know what you are missing: HUGS ARE VERY BENEFICIAL, HELLOO??!!

Full body massages

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are also beneficial, but it would be inappropriate to get one at work. unless you work at a spa.

And don’t forget

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lap dances. VERY benifitcal!

But again, not normally recieved in the work place.

Now when I was a tech working at a local college….. ]:)

We could take

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this to sooo many places. 🙂

And JD, I had NO idea they gave lap dances at the gay male strip clubs.. learn something new every day, right?

Looks like

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You answered your own question…. 🙁

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=196368&messageID=2041108

Don’t judge me, woman! B-)

I only

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said that, because you were mean first.

And besides..when I say something to YOU, then it’s funny. When YOU say something, it’s mean. Didn’t you get the rule book?

I don’t debate the funny vs mean aspect

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Just said there was a reason.

Right now, my favorite poster is of the mean rabbit, and it goes “You suck, and that is sad”.

I am going to HAVE to get it! 😀

Okay then..

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I’ll just mark that down in the “I’m right and you’re wrong” column.

I love the happy bunny. I have a glass that says “This just made me throw up a little”. Christmas present from my sister. We’re just not a cuddly, sweet family.

That … will be

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Their working time as being a masseuse and … my relaxing time being at the spa. 😉

[i]alltho they do practice, on co-workers, some of the grips they don’t perform that often on clients :0 [/i]

Rob

Everybody needs an occasional hug

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The problem is that a few perverts have ruined things.

I am known as a hugger in my workplace. I read people’s faces and can see when they are troubled or down. When someone really looks like they need a hug I ask for permission first by saying “You look like you really need a hug, may I give you one?”. Normally the gesture is appreciated and welcomed. If the answer is no, no contact is made.

The hug should not be full body variety like you would give to your parent, child, or lover but simply putting an arm around the shoulders and giving a gentle squeeze. This hug is an expression of caring with no sexual overtones. I more people would give hugs in this manner, the tension level of many workplaces would be dramatically reduced.

My view

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I am not all that big on physical contact from my co-workers. I have given hugs to a female co-worker who lost both her husband and her mother in less than a month’s span. I was on the receiving end (also from the other ladies) when my father-in-law passed away. I receive and give lots of hugs and kisses at the annual Christmas party. This is a social setting, away from the office.

I am not above giving certain users slight tap up the back of the head when they do something really stupid on their PC. (Only the ones that I know will not take it the wrong way.)

But I will tell you, never, ever attempt to touch me in a way that can make me uncomfortable. I have reported one person to management who groped me in a totally inapropriate way.

Do it all the time

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Every time a sales guy/gal gets a contract, we have a hugathon.

]:)

neato!

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way to go!

Never….

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1. Will never hug a person at workplace, as I simply do not like it.

2. Will hug only really really really close people like – kids, wife, parents, brother, sister, grand parents [b](even without any reason)[/b], and friends if there is a [b]good reason[/b]

3. If somebody hugs me, I will not make an issue out of it.

well!

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Jesus Chrysler!!!!!!

Face it Tom

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You are all alone here, and well on your way to recieve the not so coveted “Most likely to be sued” award.

It isn’t the hugs, it is the people that are so politically correct that need to be slapped more than hugged that are to blame.

That and the scum that look at a lawsuit as a quick way to get rich.

what a tragic and lonely life YOU lead!

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look at #1

I think that you will find

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That people like Onbliss are more common than not. And they are not “tragic and lonely”. They have a rationale for feeling as they do. For all you know, it is simply a case of cultural difference.

While my personality does permit people to hug me, I will say that there are more people that AREN’T welcome to touch me. I reserve the right to choose. This is especially true with members of the opposite sex. I don’t need the additional problems that go along with the violation of personal boundaries.

And for a couple of years, I did not choose to hug others and people were not welcome to hug me. While I had my reasons and good ones, I did not feel that I should be required to explain myself. I simply did not permit the situation.

This is a lawsuit happy society. Crossing certain lines is a real good way to find yourself on the wrong end of a subpeona.

Just my personality

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It is just my personal preference or call it my personality. Back from the place where I come from, guys throw arms over other guys shoulders, hug far more easily and comfortably without anybody looking at them as gays 🙂

And the problem Tig

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is knowing if you are on the “don’t touch me” list or not.

If someone hugs some but not others, this also sends a BAD signal to the non-hugged and can create issues as well.

Better to not open that door.

Some people are just unable to remain professional it seems and if they need affection that badly that they need to seek it in the work place, maybe they should get a dog.

What kind of dog?

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… a toy robotic dog. That yelps, wags tails and I think it also whimpers for some food. Hey, my son has one of those, and it is kind cute though.

I will admit, JD

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This discussion has me re-thinking the “to hug, or not to hug” thing. Looking back, the toughest part about working the same place as my partner was that we were SO hands-off. We didn’t dare do anything that could be misconstrued. When I have hugged co-workers it has generally because of something outside of work- personal crisis, expected or unexpected layoff- that kind of thing. And on the last day of many of my contracts, the people I have worked closely with or have developed a friendship outside of work with will generally give me a hug.

I guess it comes down to KNOWING who will and won’t appreciate it.

While a dog might meet the need for some, I live in a place where doggy maintenance would be challenging. Besides, the cats keep me pretty busy…

Ewwww – She said “cats”

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Knowing that you have cats makes me think that you need to get a big dog that can eat the cats in a single bite. Less painful for them.

See, I’m a cat-lover at heart. That’s why I like Chinese food so much.

And the way to the heart

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is through the stomach!

(unless we are talking about Mae, and then it is through the chest cavity with a sharp knife….. :0 )

JD

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I’ve never stabbed another human in the chest. Not even an ex-husband.

I know Mae

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it is more of a sawing motion than a stabbing motion, right? ;\

Who needs

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to stab OR saw? I can rip out a heart with a few well placed words.

(this is especially easy on toddlers)

cat hater

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don’t even bring up chinese and cats..
ick

don’t make me start harrassing you with cat paraphenalia ]:)

I shared the same workplace with my…

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…wife. We used to work together, few times in the same project. And I can understand your “hands-off” approach.

This gets me in to

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thinking back when my GF and I worked for the same company.

A co-worker(1) of me said to an other co-worker(2): Does Rob know that the girl he gives a hitch-hike every day is in love with him.
Where on co-worker(2) said: I do hope so, as she is his GF for over 7 years. 🙂

BTW the telling was at the 10th day that we worked for the same employer. I had told everybody (I thought but probably not) 3 day’s before she came to work for my employer that she was my GF, as she did the HR-manager, when he interviewed her 3 weeks before, when she applied for the job.

Rob

Tigger

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You speeled “misconstrued” correclty. I am very proud of you!

You are myopic.

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Did you even read my #2? I do not go to work seeking companionship. And my life is far from tragic.

I share the pleasures of hugging with people who are close to me – family and long-time friends.

It’s not enough

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to be a certain way. You MUST berate people for not feeling exactly as you do. I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s supposed to work.

For instance, I love twizzlers. If YOU don’t, then you are a sucky loser and you should just stick your head in an oven.

Red or black

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And if you say “red” then you deserve to be tied to a railroad track in the path of a speeding train while I twirl the end of my mustache and laugh maniacally. And no fair calling Dudley Dooright.

I don’t think so..

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Of course red. Black is just gross.

Poor deluded girl

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I can’t even imagine a life with an attitude toward black licorice like that. 🙁

Mambo..

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maybe we should just agree to disagree. I hate to see you get all worked up over your odd (and disturbing) obession with black licorice.

Maybe someone needs a hug?

Apart from not reading…

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…my #2, my #3 point also was not read.

Mae

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That was the best laugh of the day!

Twizzlers – UK style. Licorice, nah. We make ours of MEAT!

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4320000/newsid_4326200/4326277.stm

Okay

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It’s not completely disgusting, but I don’t think I could sneak them into the movie theatre in my purse. It’s just not movie snack kinda food. And the ticket taker would probably smell them.

Twizzlers?? Really?? Or are you just putting us on??

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Eewwwwww! Gross!!

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Dawg

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Twizzlers arn’t gross. You just have to find your inner child, he’ll love them.

[i]My inner child prefers Scotch, straight up, with water on the side.

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Even as a kid I wasn’t partial to candies and sweets, being more into chips, jerky and pork rinds and even that, in limited amounts. Now bubblegum was another matter but I’ve sort of outgrown that.

Red twizzlers; you do know they aren’t even licorice, don’t you. BTW, they also have something called “whips” or “(shoe?)laces” in case you can’t find your twizzlers handy.

[b]Dawg[/b[ ]:)

Yeah? Well, my inner child

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wears a hockey mask and loves twizzlers.

I know they aren’t licorice. Licorice is disgusting. And so are those shoelace things. It has to be twizzlers.

Earwig Alert!

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“I’m forever blowing bubbles”……

“I saw this and thought of you” type of moment.

Sorry, Dawg darling, but that was ir-resist-a-bubble!!

😡

GG

My inner child agrees with your inner child

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Neat Scotch. Elderly single malt- Highland or Speyside. Islay if I am in a bad mood…

GG; TT; These days it’s 30 yr old Glenfiddich or McAllen’s

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GG – I’ve outgrown my taste for gum of any kind but I would simply love to play with your bubbles in the bubbles of your bubble bath.

Tig – There is no such thing as a bad scotch; just that some are better than others, single malts or blends included. Neat is okay if you keep your scotch refrigerated but I put a cube of ice in mine.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

What about Family loyalty?

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Dawg, You have family in the business,

Bad Dawg!

ok ok ok, back to the scotch

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so how much of a difference will one notice between the 12 year intro stuff I have been getting and the 30 year goodies your settled in on?

Islay, that is one I haven’t tried yet.

Still early in my education, and so I still have the training wheels on! 😀

Just to get a variety I have been trying some of the blends, but staying with the previous guide of being “distilled AND bottled in Scotland”. If not, I pass it by.

Gone through a few bottles so far, the Famous Grouse is long gone and needs to be replentished.

What do people think about Johny Walker and Cutty Sark?

Grouse is far better (shhh! don’t drive the price up).

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I drink Glenlivit 12+ ,Glen Caer 24, Macintosh 12+,
and Famous Grouse. As they say You can’t fly on one wing, buy 2 bottles of Grouse…

JD, some personal Scotch Favourites

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15 year old Dalwhinney is wonderful, 18 and 30 year old Glen Farclas are REALLY good but an expensive habit, 18 year old double cask Glenmorangie (pronounced “glen-mon-a-hey”) is a favourite, 18 year old Bowmore is a good Islay- smokier than a Highland or Spey, I have been told it is an acquired taste. Too bad for my wallet that I acquired it!

For a good Scotch with a good price point, try Tomatin or Isle of Jura. Tasty and won’t break the bank.

I don’t generally care for blends. I put ice in blends. Johnnie, in my opinion is over-rated. Cutty is okay but over ice.

If I really like a Scotch, I store it in the back of the fridge and drink it neat.

My $0.02…

Edited for a flagrant grammar error…

Tj, it’s usually the Glenfiddich for that reason but…………………..

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I wouldn’t want to get tired of it. There’s at least 3 bottles of it in my bar along with Macallan, Glenmorangie, Laphroaig, Talisker, Kardhu and one or two others. For blends bottles Of Johhny in assorted colours including “Blue”(gift), Chivas)gift), Dewar’s and a couple bottles of Grant’s.

We don’t see much Famous Grouse around Montreal but I can get it in New Hampshire where, like all booze, its cheaper than anywhere else and less than an hours drive from Boston. Even California wine s are cheaper there than in their home state.
I’m speaking regular every day prices.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

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Jd, I keep telling you there is no such a thing as a bad scotch…………

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Just that some are better than others. It all boils down to what your personal taste preferences are. Keep trying until you settle on several that you like and you won’t go far wrong. I’d stay away from the 30 year old stuff for now unless you are ready to spring for something in the region of $200 for a fifth. Aside from the extra cost I don’t think your taste is refined enough to fully appreciate it just yet. Keep practising and you’ll eventually get there. And for God’s sake never order any of it in a bar unless you know the place and the bartenders are completely honest or you can see them break the seal on the bottle.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Dawg, I still want you to adopt me.

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I can be a good source of disposal for the family blend. I can say I might resemble a sponge for it.

If not for the family business there go I…

If they ever need a taster…

I have plenty of experience with their brand as it a favorite…

I can never be an alcoholic as I can’t afford the stuff I really love..

Now this is more like it

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Not such thing as a bad scotch, as long as I stay away from the $6 fifth of bottled in NY “scotch”? 😀

Macallan, that was the other bottle I finished off. Will have to get more of that one too! B-)

By law, the stuff imported in bulk and bottled here ………………..

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isn’t supposed to be called Scotch but something else. In Canada it used to be called Highland whisky in a sarcastic reference to it’s being a cheap imitation of the real stuff. It’s like Cognac. Cognac is a brandy made in the Cognac region of France and all real Cognac is brandy but not all brandy is cognac.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Me at the bottom of a Glenfiddich barrel.

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A sad thought, I might fall in and drown. Why did It take 6 men four hours to drag him out? he fought…

JELLYBABIES!

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That’s the treat for champions. (gummybears here in the US.) They’re not for hugging, tomp12, just for eating.

Van?

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eat eat eat! Doesn’t anyone f### anymore? :0

“I just needed to be held”
“You got the bonus plan, baby!” – dice

]:)

Cute…

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…just how much of the hooch have you been knocking back now? I’ll admit it, you’re a little scary on the juice. Flattering…but scary. 😉

Well, back to the salt mines today. I hope your weekend was thrilling enough to last through it, and you had a good time with the “things” one & two.

The thrill ride went well, Van

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First off, are you going to say you NEVER heard the old “little red riding hood” joke of “all the better to EAT you with my dear”? Add in the first line of my last post for the punchline. 😀

And then EVERYONE has to love Andrew Dice Clay! (well, some of his stuff)

Hooch? When I have the boys, almost none.

Things One and Two went for a bike ride across the state with the grand parents (about 60 miles each way) and I drove the van in case of breakdowns or sore butts! ;\ Had a good time.

When they started, thing two went golfing with me instead, and then we caught up and he finished the last 10 miles on the bike.

Thing one went golfing with me on the way back. Gave good time for us to get some one-on-one time, as we are usually in a group.

Oh yeah, thing one is grounded. (beat me by a stoke)

Scary? Sweet lovable me? Naaaa! 😡

I’m glad

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you had a good time with the fam. I’m not so glad you even mentioned Clay – gross! Not a big fan. I always feel like I need a shower after listening to him – and NOT in a good way. He’s gross, but that thing he does with his arms is funny (don’t know how to describe – but he keeps flexing them as if to pull his sleeves up to light his cigarettes, etc.).

Golfing? One more thing of my list of things I just have to learn to do after I win the lotto. What’s you handicap? What was your score last week? I went chip-shotting once. It was fun.

Oh, and from your whole “taking care of me” advice you gave earlier, I was inspired to buy some vitamins at the health food place at lunch. It counts for something. No?

golf, and other oddities

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my handicap? Some would be my personality? If I just walk with a limp? 😀 I don’t know what it is, as I don’t play seriously enough to know or care. I just go out and enjoy the walk with my boys. Beating the he11 out of someone elses balls for a while is good therapy!

Dice, he is rude and crude, and often just what the doctor ordered after a long day of being pleasent to people that are unworth. ;\

Robert Schimel has got to be one of the funniest people on the face of this earth though!

vitamins is not quite what I had in mind, but it is a start. Going FISHING for at least half of a saturday IS what I was talking about! Sunday is good too! You have your assignment! B-)

Okay…assigment received.

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I will make plans and report back. (Don’t hold your breath, tho, it might be a while.)

somewhat see eye to eye

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At least we somewhat see eye to eye on this subject!

I don’t think so.

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….and I don’t think I go about try to convince everybody that hugging is good or bad.

You don’t need to defend

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your choice. As TiggerTwo said, we all have reasons that we do or do not allow our personal space to be invaded. It was nice that you explained your point, but it wasn’t necessary. I find it interesting how this topic cascaded from what appeared to be a yes/no question. 😉

A workplace is for work and getting a job done. I know I have been criticized for not being “fun” enough in the office or too “serious”. All I am doing is focusing on what needs to get done. Fun is for after work or when the work has finished. With our reduced staffs I don’t see the work as ever finished to “play” in the office.

haha.

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And I thought only my family was wierd. An Indian thing, do u think?

]:)

Are you saying Indians are weird :-)

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On the contrary! Public display of affection is part and parcel of the Indian life. Except the PDA towards the spouse, the society does not disapprove the act among friends and family.

Definately not saying that.

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We are eccentric, not wierd 😉

My family doesnt believe in hugging. I started believing ever since I went to live with my extended family in Faridabad. But hugging in my office is a step too far. I dont like hugging people I dont consider as close.

]:)

I knew families…

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…where the members did not EXPLICITLY EXPRESS their affection. Some consider it a sign of weakness. And for some it is just their way of life or habit if you might call that.

ps: I was just kidding.

edited: added the word ‘you’

:)

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Its just a habit, i guess. In my family. I have never hugged my dad or grandparents. But I do hug my cousins and aunts and uncles and friends.

]:)

E-mail you?????

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I must say, from reading all of the above, you sound like a nutjob to me. But I’ll try to keep an open mind.

Please do not peer mail me.

Edit: BTW – No offense intended.

You did intend, did’nt you :-)

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I liked your “BTW – No offense intended.” message

No, not really

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I only know tomp12 from this thread, but a couple of things raise red flags to me. A new peer posts about hugging, includes his e-mail address and asks people to contact him. Seems a little unusual. Then in a couple of cases, he seems to take umbrage to posts suggesting that he cool it on the physical contact in the workplace. Finally, it appears that he PM’ed some of the regulars. It just smells a little fishy.

Sometimes I think that if folks get told a once in a while that what they’re suggesting is a tad weird, they might alter their behavior to conform to the norms of the environment they’re in. Maybe we’re too afraid of offending. I’m not against letting people be themselves, but there should be constraints based on the local culture. A little “Curb Your Enthusiasm” if you will. Especially until you understand the lay of the land.

Now if this came from JDClyde, I think we all would have understood that it was just the product of a sick, psychotic, altered thought process, and we could have gone on happily with our days. B-)

I LIKE EATING FISH

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It just smells a little fishy.

Larry David

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When I had HBO “Curb Your Enthusiasm” was one of my favorites. I attribute the success of []i]Seinfeld[i] to Larry.

Corporate policy in my company and many others clearly states…….

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Public displays of affection, such as hugging and kissing, if unsolicited or unwanted could result in disciplinary actions being taken, if one of the parties complains. More than one party complaining and you are going find yourself getting a new one ripped.

A couple of years ago, I was on the receiving end of a situation that I did not seek and specifically told the offender that her acts were not acceptable to me, neither as an individual nor as a manager, during the hours of work. I did not even want anything to do with the individual outside of work and took pains to avoid her socially. She persisted; I gave her three warnings, in writing and with the third, I fired her. There were many more details, than what I’ve stated here but that was the gist of it.

A wrongful dismissal suit was brought against me and I won. That policy applies to every employee in the company but to date she is the only female offender on record, at least in our company. We have received several other complaints; all from women and we have talked to the offenders. One warning is usually sufficient to stop the offenders from pursuing matters further. A gap of three or more years on your resume is difficult to explain; you don’t want to tell a potential employer you were terminated for reasons of sexual harassment and this would be worse if the company had been sued. I know I wouldn’t want to risk hiring anyone with that item in their background. I would rather hire reformed burglars or bank robbers, than anyone with a record of sexual harassment and/or abuse.

So Tom consider this, you might be friendly and innocent of any nefarious intent; you hug somebody who complains, you could be getting a written warning. A second offense will get you another warning plus a two week suspension without pay. A third; well don’t let the knob hit you in the ass on the way out.

If the person, who you assaulted, chooses to bring charges against you, the company may even take the step of testifying against you. The company would take this step to prevent or minimize, any suit brought against it, due to your actions.

Understand; any unwanted physical contact can be considered an assault and any physical contact which the recipient considers inappropriate or unwarranted and which offends the person, is definitely an assault and most companies will treat it as such. You may think that the government is trying to control your emotions or feelings but forcing your attentions upon someone, regardless of your innocent intentions, could very well place you on the outside looking in. You have the right to freedom of expression but once that transcends to the physical, the recipient has the same right to be offended and to take exception. If you hope for any sort of career, in any type of nusiness environment, I would suggest you clean up your act and get a grip on your urges.

If you should ever rise to any position of authority and a complaint is brought against you, the law could very well look upon you as a predator and just being charged with that, whether you are found innocent or not, could very well put you on the list of sexual ofenders, which includes every rapist and weenie wiggler for the past fifty years. You would have a hell of a time clearing your name and getting removed from the list. Consider the consequences the next time you think of spontaneously throwing your arms around someone and copping a feel.

[b]Dawg[b] ]:)

Legalities aside, what about ethics

In reply to Corporate policy in my company and many others clearly states…….

You can ask my employees, I am a reasonable friendly nice guy. I happily play cards at lunch with my employees and others, attend social functions, go golfing with people from work etc.

But I am not by nature a huggy kind of guy. Way I was brought up, I suppose. Hugs are special, to be shared with the ones you love. They are not just more intimate handshakes.

I have a right not to be hugged. I would be embarassed to be hugged by an employee I didn’t particularly like.

Shouldn’t that be enough?? Do I not have the right to maintain my personal space?

And of course, as I mentioned previously there are exceptions. I hugged my former boss at a funeral(I would not be inclined to do it in the office). But that was a special relationship.

And before anyone comments, I hug my kids daily. Entirely different scenario. My co-workers may become my friends, but they are not family.

James

DIFERENCES

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I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES OF WHERE HUGS SHOULD HAPPEN!

Arrogant and stupid

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Are you claiming to be psychic? Do you know whats on the mind of everyone you want to hug?

James

Legal aside is a great point, and NOT ethics

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The VALUE of a hug seems to be very different to different people. It IS to intimate to just hug anyone that walks along, and devalues it when it is thrown around so causally.

Co-workers? Only in some of the mentioned extreme situations mentioned like funerals, and only close people, not a casual aquantence.

The days I have my boys, I would say I easily get 10 hugs a day from each whether their friends are around or not, or if we are in public or at home.

For some reason, I don’t seem to get hugs from the their female parental unit anymore? ;\

ARE YOU THAT COLD HEARTED

In reply to Corporate policy in my company and many others clearly states…….

ARE YOU MARRIED?

Recognising and managing to legal risk

In reply to ARE YOU THAT COLD HEARTED

From a corporate perspective is in no way “cold hearted”. It is prudent.

Your reply clearly communicates, at least to me, that you could potentially make poor choices as regards inter-personal touching. It appears that you sound off when others disagree with your viewpoints- even though those individuals are expressing solid points.

Perhaps this approach is unwise.

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Being married or not, is not the issue. I am a business person who………

In reply to ARE YOU THAT COLD HEARTED

has to keep an eye on the bottom line. I do not let anything take place in my office, that could possibly threaten that. Also I firmly believe that no person, male or female should have to tolerate unwanted physical contact.

Anyone who thinks they can get away with that, will be warned, diciplined, and dismissed. In the event the contact was so egregious as to constitute a prima facie case of sexual assault, step one will be bypassed and if it is confirmed then step 2, will become 3 and made permanent.

Legal will gather evidence from the party or parties concerned as well as evidence from witnesses and if the offended party wishes, we will present it to the police and support that individual completely.

The litigation process can be expensive and I do not want any more to do with it than necessary. Lawsuits of this nature have the nasty habit of damaging a company’s reputation, something I will not accept, even as a joke.

So yes, in answer to your question I am that hard hearted and if and when I find a cancer in my company, it will be excised immediately. I will fire the offender so fast he will be on the sidewalk wondering how he arrived there and if anyone checks his references with me, they will be left in no doubt as to why he was dismissed and I don’t care if the offender has been 5 months or five years in our employ. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.

BTW, imagine your mother, daughter, wife, or girlfriend, in the role of the offended party.

[b]Dawg[/b]

I can’t imagine…

In reply to Being married or not, is not the issue. I am a business person who………

…my mother, daughter, wife, or girlfriend being offended by being hugged by someone. Maybe certain stuck-up people in certain parts of the country are that way…but not where I’m from and work.

Now, if someone had asked someone else NOT to hug them…and that was ignored…then we have a different story entirely.

People, you have to use your heads…

Science Fiction book club at job got in trouble.

In reply to Corporate policy in my company and many others clearly states…….

L.E. Modestit wrote books about a mythical land named Recluse. The Sci-Fi club was discussing “Recluse” as our current fantasy. A woman Married multiple times filed complaints against all of us for a harrassing workplace.

The company isolated the Sci-Fi book club from other people. They put us by plants (Very nice looking women ) to get us to act inappropriately.
Finally they asked Us why we were harrassing a 300 pound pregnant woman. This is after they spent all this time, effort and money to investigate us.

The woman’s maiden name was Recluse. None of Us had ever known her by her maiden name.Finally her maiden name was dropped on us. about half of us started laughing almost uncontrollably. I ran to my desk and returned. I dropped a book on the HR guys desk and he turned red. “The Magic of Recluse” That is why we said “Recluse is our current fantasy.” That is what got her upset. Why didn’t she file the same charge of harrassment against the 2 women in our group?

The woman was given a gift-wrapped copy for her baby shower, by the two female members of our group. All anyone had to do was talk to us…

Dear God

In reply to UNRELATED TOPIC HERE:HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE

Someone needs to give this guy a hug!

Dude, everyone is different, those of us who don’t feel comfortable hugging at work aren’t necessarily any more heartless or pathetic than those who do. It just makes us different!

I don’t like to be touched by a lot of different people, however, I DO hug my husband and kids and parents, siblings, in-laws and some friends. I have my own guidelines, I would not presume to try to inflict MY guidelines on other humans. Why would I even care? Why do YOU care so much? It’s getting strange. You’re turning into ‘creepy hug guy’.

Well said, And I agree but for the….

In reply to Dear God

…first line 🙂 His responses are very strong.

Hugging In HighSchool

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They shouldn’t allow hugs in highschool either.
My high school had several pretty, young lasses from the Athletic, Academic and Partying circles. They seemed to start every day giving big hugs to all the guys from their respective social sets.
Those lucky guys were very happy.
I wasn’t happy.
The only person who gave me a hug was the 60 year oldish Lunch lady named Frigga.
I suspect it was out of pitty.
They shouldn’t allow hugs in highschool either.

they should allow hugs in high school, helloo??!!

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ARE YOU A DICTATOR??

Get over the Caps Lock allready

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I wish I was a Dictator,
I would save the rainforest, end global warming-if it exists, move to New Zealand and bring back Xena.
Dictator,
As far trying to insult somebody, rattle their chain, push their buttons..,
Is that the best you got? Did you realize how weak it was and thus the All Caps?

So Tom, or whatever your name was yesterday or whatever it will be tomorrow.
You may note that the majority of the posts to this thread are from the other TR members interacting with and good heartedly joking around with eachother. They show Comradre, Es’pirit Decor(sic).
Such qualities are not found in repsonse to your posts.
Now that appears to be a very lonely and sad situation.
I doubt that you care about hugging, certs, or computer degrees as much what you really want is to belong to something you recognize as special and have attention paid to you.
That is not a bad thing in itself, who doesn’t?

The self defeating downward spiral is this.
In lack of positive attention you are trying very hard to dredge up negative attention.
To you, any attention, no matter how scornful is better then not being noticed at all.
Wow, again, that to me is very sad.

You really do need a hug.
Some self-esteem would probally help,
Some professional therapy could work wonders,
Maybe a friend or two outside these message boards.
Definately some friends, ones that you haven’t driven away by playing these same kiddy, look at Me, games with.

Did you get sued?

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Okay, based on your responses to various responses, you feel strongly about your views.

Was there any recent workplace incident involving you or people whom you know that prompted this discussion and your attitude towards other TR members?

no, but this is a vile world we live in!

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where we can not express our affection to one another w/o be afraid of being sued!

But we ARE welcome to express affection!

In reply to no, but this is a vile world we live in!

Just not in any manner that violates another person.

Do you also believe that you should be able to randomly hug a person on the street? Probably not. Is it okay to hug someone that doesn’t care to be hugged? No. that is a violation of their person- as Dawg pointed out, assault.

While I was in nursing school, we were taught that even though the patient was in the hospital environment, we had to ask permission to take vitals, administer any medications, and so on. In short, we were not entitled to touch the patient without permission even though we were there specifically to provide care.

An individual’s right to chose who touches them is pretty key. Take that away, and even rape becomes permissible. I would rather live in this world, thanks!

The World has been vile all along

In reply to no, but this is a vile world we live in!

As you might have read, not all people eagerly accept or approve expressing affection to one another in an open fashion. People have their own reasons to act the way they do, and [b]not ALL are related [/b]to legal ramifications.

And before getting to being rude, as the thread originator the onus was on you to explain a little more clearly about the legal angle that was important to you.

And you were rude to people who did not want to hug for non-legal reasons.

Julian’s absence

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Has anyone else thought that it’s odd that Julian hasn’t stopped by this thread? He’s a huggy-type of fellah, and I thought he’d offer his opinion by now.

Could it be another case of split TR personalities?!? Is tomp12 really Jules in disguise? I’ve never seen them in the same room at the same time. (Not that I’d want to.)

Curiouser and curiouser.

Now

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I’m becoming paranoid. Freakin’ me out!!!

On even his worst day I’m pretty darn sure Julian has had more class than this Tomp12 has shown so it probably is not him. Of course you may just be trying to draw Julian into the discussion.

It could be another one of “those” people though.

On the surface of it, to me it looks like the 12 might stand for 12 years old.’Course it might be my “meds”.

Flame on Tom.

Agreed

In reply to Now

I don’t really think Julian would ever behave like this guy, that part was just a joke. But, I am a little surprised he hasn’t chimed in.

Jules is a bit busy at the moment

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But he has got a couple of questions open in the Q&A Section if you care to help him out. :p

The last that I heard from him he was getting fed up with constantly locking horns with Max as Jules takes things personally I think he’s having a break from the [b]Flame Wars[/b] for the time being. 😉

Col ]:)

Busted, you should realize Mambo is referring to Julian’s little………..

In reply to Now

!9 years old Ethiopian popsie for which he harbours carnal desires. He was supposed to be importing her into Oz and was going to take pictures and everything upon completion of the deed but all that was supposed to be two weeks ago and we haven’t heard much from him, since that last announcement. I am trying to be generous and give him the benefit of the doubt but to date no pics, no joy, no popsie, from our lad Julian.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

I’ve noticed he’s been scarce around here

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lately so maybe giving him the benefit of the doubt is a good thing. I only knew a part of that story. Watch him show up pale, dehydrated, wobbly legged with a sore back and/or a good story.

Now Dawg you know the real reason

In reply to Busted, you should realize Mambo is referring to Julian’s little………..

He Died Happy and with a smile that couldn’t be removed from his face by the undertaker. I understand at his funeral they had to have a [b]Closed Casket[/b] for this very reason. :p

Col ]:)

From the reports

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They had a hard time getting the lower half of the casket closed…… :0 ;\

I actually heard

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That they couldn’t get it closed at all well the lower half anyway. B-) ;\

I’m reliably informed that they had to insert a [b]Spacer[/b] to make it look as if it was actually closed and because of this they had to dig a deeper hole in the ground so that the minimum amount of soil was covering the casket. :^0

The thing here was that Jules wanted to be Cremated but the over sized casket couldn’t fit into any Crematoriums Furnaces so they had to bury him at the same cost as a Cremation. Talk about getting a [b]Discount[/b] even after you’re dead. 😀

Col ]:)

[b]The “Tom is pathetic” picture is forming[/b]

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and it is not a pretty picture.

Tom is either a very pathetic, needy person that didn’t get enough attention from mommy and so is looking for it from any and everyone else

OR

Tom is a troll.

either way dude, you are a friggen loser. It is no wonder no one would want to hug you. If you require affection that badly, go to the local animal shelter and rescue a dog. No matter how big of a loser you are, that dog will love you day in and day out (not phsically I hope) regardless.

A dog won’t care if your stupid, fat, ugly or a troll.

If that doesn’t work, go to a peeler joint. As long as you have money, there are women that will pretent to care about what you think. Or is it guys your interested in? Check the local listings for your alternative way of life.

[b]And every post you do shows you for the ever increasingly creapier hug guy loser that you are. [/b]

Mae, like always, your right on. But because I agree with you, by default I am right was well! (this time! 😀 )

I consider that a compliment

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thank you

You are correct….

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…in a way. I read somewhere of the following three feelings: being hated, being loved and being ignored, “being ignored” was the worst.

By virtue of replying to your post, we did not ignore you. So indeed you were saved from the worst, and hence it is a compliment to you.

Have a good day!

You shouldn’t dude because one day you are going to inflict yourself…….

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the wrong person, who will be totally offended by you and have their husband, brother, son or father come after you to cause you bodily harm, and if perchance I should happen to see that, I will gladly applaud them and when asked claim I didn’t see a thing. I think a solid majority here would agree with me.

I would suggest you get some professional help before you end up as a statistic down at the morgue, wearing a toe tag. You are giving all appearances of being a really sick individual and shoulds seek some professional help before it is too late. Nobody cares about you and whether or not your mother breast fed you. They do care about the safety and emotional security of their loved ones.

If it is guys you try to spontaneously hug, I doubt you will need much in the way of dental services because unless they’re gay you might get your teeth kicked in. I doubt even gays would be open to spontaneous, gratuitous hugging but you won’t know until you try it for yourself. I take it you like show tunes?

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

NOT HUGGING ANY GUY ON THE STREET

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i DON’T MAKE IT A HABIT OF HUGGING ANYONE ON THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE DENTAL SERVICES THAT I WILL NEED IN CASE MY TEETH ARE KNOCKED OUT AND WHICH YOU WILL GLADLY PAY FOR: I , THEREFORE, SAY “THANK YOU FOR PAYING FOR MY DENTAL SERVICES!”

I, Karnac the Great, Seer of All, Teller of All

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I foresee a ripping by the Dawg is someone’s future.

Ah Mambo what would be the point? With somebody so incomprehensiby………

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dysfunctional, what would be he the point. Anybody this delusional and anal retentive would just think he was being picked on and be incapable of focusing on aything else. He is due for the schit kicking the terminally stupid so richly have coming to them.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Close enough

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Another prediction realized. 😀

you’re funny

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creepy, but funny.

I suspect he would sue for dental work, but..

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I think that self-defense, and the need to avoid bad breath and BO should get the person acquitted. If the judge isn’t too liberal…

Why not?

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You seem to be willing to annoy equally.

Try hugging ME without invitation. Go ahead. Just try it…

No really.

Aw Tig,

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(think of Scamp in Lady and the tramp Aw, Pidge)

I wouldn’t hug you unless you were the initiator, or like the woman whose husband was killed in a car accident in front of the building all three of us work in, and she was in a meeting and saw him get hit by a car on the sidewalk… I called 911, and since I could see tissues that should stay on the inside I kept her from going out to his body…

I held her until she quit crying, and realized that she had three kids to worry about. That wasn’t really a hug but medical care.

Proof again, TJ

In reply to Aw Tig,

That you are the kind of guy I am proud to know.

I was going more for the “I pity the fool” look with that post. But then, you knew that.

How is that poor woman? I can’t even begin to imaagine how hard that was. But you’re right, that was medical assistance.

Ruby is fine. Her sons are doing well.

In reply to Aw Tig,

We grew up in the same neighborhood.

She calls me about quarterly, She lives in Illinois now… I think she works for United Airlines. (Either United, or American she used to work for the other in Nashville, so she must be with United now…)

She has remarried, and is a DBA, and a new baby at age I don’t know if her hubby even knows her age. I do, but you never know…

She hated me for about 20 minutes until the police told her that it was far better she not see Dave in that manner…

You know..

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Wasn’t 1Uaw frequently looking for the written, affirmation equivalent of a hug?

Why yes, she was

In reply to You know..

Considering that she may have also adopted other identities, you could be on to something.

While I have no idea if you are right about this or not, I agree with JD. This has gotteen pathetic.

The big difference was

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1UNaw was non-confrontational and would be more of a suck-up for love and attention.

When she morphed into Sister, THEN she became agressive towards the people that had refused her the love she craved in her other life.

I see the psycho beotch from “Play Misty for me” all over 1UNaw.

This guy is just upset because his mom cut him off.

But I do like the way you think! B-)

jd? is that really you?

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harsh. very harsh. I didn’t say it wasn’t true, but a little on the rough side, don’t you think?

Van, I prefer to think of it as

In reply to jd? is that really you?

“accurate” rather than “harsh”.

Sometimes a dog just needs to be smacked on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. While I am usually not the first to step up and start the smacking, every now and then it just needs to be done.

And then he showed he is to stupid to even know he was being insulted!

Like Steve Martins album, “Comedy isn’t pretty” 😀

Wimps!

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You guys are either wimps, gay or Ugly! I hug every chance I get. Grab both booty cheeks if she’s cute. The women in my office love it! Been here 12 years and it’s never been a problem, holidays they line up outside my office for their birthday, christmas, new years hugs.

I hope to serve on your jury…

In reply to Wimps!

…when you’re tried for sexual harassment. That should be fun! Will you come up and grope every female juror? I hope to hell your posting was just a troll. Either that, or you must live in a [i]really[/i] backwards part of the country, where women are still conditioned to accept such advances. Woe to you when you finally encounter one who wasn’t raised that way! By the way, are you the boss of these women you’re groping?

May a thousand gays come up to you, kiss you, and grope [i]your[/i] butt!

YOU ARE TO APOLOGISE TO EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD

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AND APOLOGISE TO ME FOR MAKING THAT RUDE AND VILE COMMENT. I HAVE NOT ONCE MADE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT YOU!

Am I the only one . . . . .

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…who feels like I missed chapters two through ten?

Chapters 2-10

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So this joker with no TR history shows up out of the blue, shortly after Spuddy_M pulled the TR ID and icon heist and starts a troll thread. It died- as it should- and some equally unknown joker brought it back to life.

Whoever this nutcase is reads much like Underage but only half as erudite. His habit is to flame anyone that doesn’t agree that it should be acceptable to forcibly hug persons of the opposite sex (as long as there is no groping). I invited him to try that on me but the chicken sh*t will never take me up on that.

The light hearted conversations regarding his parentage and likely origins were just that- light hearted. As much as the Dawg is ever light hearted…

Hope this helps as it is only the Readers Digest version. But no one should have to READ much of this dreck.

Oh wait- bet I get flamed next… Shivering scared, I am!

TT – unfortunately we can’t ignore the

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trolls. We like to play with them too much. Please never fear a troll. Remember we are the “big cats” of the jungle and Trolls are just our latest “mice” to play with.

You can handle them. I have seen you do it. You have a good supporting cast too to help you do it.

You always have something supportive to offer

In reply to TT – unfortunately we can’t ignore the

And I appreciate it.

Don’t worry- tomp12 has a lot more to fear from me than I do from him. While he has attacked nearly everyone else in this discussion, he has yet to come after me. Wonder why? Went after Dawg but I am off limits?

I agree with NeverBusted- there is too much coincidence in this “sudden revival”. And Max is rightly confused.

Incidentally, I liked your cat vs mouse analogy. It is fitting and correct.

I am thinking hijack…

Hey, JL…So tomp12 is actually charles thompson…

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http://techrepublic.com.com/5213-6257-0.html?id=2792697&redirectTo=%2f1320-22-20.html

I did not know that. Seems he does have a history – been a TRer since 2K. That means he is at least six years old – wait – add another six years for this one to learn to read and write – maybe he’s twelve? But he still sounds six. What do you think?

Vanessa – Are you sure about that?

In reply to TT – unfortunately we can’t ignore the

by the way, he/she peer mailed me to yell at me to keep to the topic. 😉 I am much more interested in all the side comments. The original topic lost interest fast.

Sure? No. Not at all. I was just getting bored wth the whole thing…

In reply to TT – unfortunately we can’t ignore the

I actually thought charles.thompson’s post was funny. Sorry to mislead. The hijacks are great tho’ aren’t they? I like reading your posts. How’s work for you today? Any luck with that project/contract?

Van – Job questions

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It is all the same. I just refuse to do any more whining about it. My PM is back and was she NOT happy with the status report and the red flag write ups. I didn’t even shed a tear when I explained who deserved kudos and who should be shot then fired.

I gots lots of backup paper behind it too. I mean, I give the programmer a spreadsheet template to fill in as he does a task. What I get back is the spreadsheet redone his way and only containing what is complete and not all the other stuff to be done that was listed in there.

The Senior VP is taking over that task himself and was not happy about the template being changed. My TDM is really cool. I am trying to take some of his tasks and he is going to keep the PM away from me. This way I might actually get some work done.

BTW: Did I mention that SQL Server T-SQL [b]sucks[/b] big time. Did I? I have to migrate that stuff to DB2 on a Unix platform. The DDL’s don’t translate well and I can’t get the darn column spects in the right format. Oh well. At least I am doing something technical instead of admin. 🙂

There’s

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probably a good reason for that. It doesn’t look like it’s very well written..

you are arrogant

In reply to Wimps!

I will try that at my new job and I WILL GARAN-DAMN-TEE YOU THAT I WILL GET FIRED!!
SEE YA, SEE YA. WOULD NOT WANT TO BE YA!

And you sir, are a troll

In reply to you are arrogant

Your kind are not welcomed here and your only value is to provide comic relief.

When, if ever, you actually gain majority- assuming that your parents do not give serious thought to retroactive abortion- you might be allowed out in polite society.

Somehow I doubt the day will come.

You’re all just JEALOUS

In reply to And you sir, are a troll

Because I have many females desiring attention from me. I don’t force myself on anyone they come to me. Lot’s of others on this board had positive things to say about hugging. I think you guys are the trolls and that’s why no one will hug you.

nah, nah, nana_nah

In reply to You’re all just JEALOUS

]:)

Precious

In reply to UNRELATED TOPIC HERE:HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE

I work with a lady name Precious. That is her real name, given to her by her mother, written on her birth cert, passport…

I hate it because I can say “Hey Bob” or “Hey Angie”, but I can never say “Hey Precious” just in case someone misunderstands.

what about tongues LOL?

In reply to UNRELATED TOPIC HERE:HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE

see above

you are quite the clown

In reply to what about tongues LOL?

you are quite the clown

Last person who put his hands on me at work

In reply to UNRELATED TOPIC HERE:HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE

when I wasn’t expecting it got a bloody nose. I’m not the youngest of 13 for nothing. Sucker SCARED me and I reacted by reflex.

I don’t advise hugging anyone unless they clearly initiate it. I’d advise against it in most workplaces. Certainly I’m not in favor of anyone touching ME at work. If you’re not good at picking up on subtle signals, just don’t. (Subtle signals that say, TOUCH ME AND YOU DIE.)

Hawk

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Nothing like a strong woman! 😡

Way to stand your ground. I am sure that would have been something to see! lol

Well, I’m a hugger and kisser-on-the-cheek and puncher-on-the-arm………

In reply to UNRELATED TOPIC HERE:HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE

always have been, always will be, to anyone everywhere…BUT HERE! Some offices I’ve worked in, we would all go out and get drunk together afterwards…Laugh at the clients after a quick glance around the room…even laugh at the boss, and he was there with us! But I wouldn’t get near these guys for a million bucks! The atmosphere is strange and no one really hangs with anyone else – it’s like rats abondoning the sinking ship when quittin’ time comes. Nope. Definitely not the place for personal pleasantries. No hugs or “friendlies” given here.

On “kissing on the cheek”

In reply to Well, I’m a hugger and kisser-on-the-cheek and puncher-on-the-arm………

I remember this one social function I attended, one with the usual suspects of high-rollers and social elite, and although I was somewhat out of my element, I seem to manage pretty well. (Note: I can be the best blue collar, white collar, black tie, no tie, tie one on, or whatever collar and/or tie is appropriate.)

Anyway, here comes this “trophy wife” (if you know what I mean), walking over to greet me, and she was one of those “cheek kissers”. Now I might be stupid, and I admit that I’m not properly trained in all the proper social graces, but I have always gone to the left (the person’s right cheek) in such cases. Well, I did just that, but she went to my left cheek. Okay, I thought, I just committed a social gaffe, but no big deal, so I went to her left cheek ….. just as she went over to my right ….. so I went back to her left, but she went to my right ….. left ….. right ….. left ….. right ……

We must have looked like a couple of parrotts bobbing heads at each other! I should have just planted one right on her lips!

maxxeeee babeee

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I know how you feel. Happens at church for me sometimes.

friends vs acquaintance

In reply to UNRELATED TOPIC HERE:HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE

Hugging is OK for family and friends but not for acquaintance. Most people at work are an acquaintance. These employees should be treated with respect and not be forced in an awkward position because of physical contact from a fellow employee.

Hugging? What about…

In reply to friends vs acquaintance

In my Government department, in the field offices you get the occasional bonk between them duirng work time – because they are so isolated and think they can get away with it. Yet at the same time the rest of us have to act like mutants because nearly everything gets taken out of context and could get in trouble for no reason. Never mind just hugging!

the big question is

In reply to UNRELATED TOPIC HERE:HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE

has anyone emailed our hugaholic?

I bet after a few, he is the first to tell everyone that he loves them…..

He did get his panties in a bind over the gay hugs though, didn’t he? Protesteth too much maybe?

LOL!!! Protesteth too much, you say?? Only Jd would have…………. :^0

In reply to the big question is

the temerity to post that, especially here and now.

In your shoes and I hope they’re soft rubber soled, I would want to sneak as far away from that topic, as I could get. Talk about leaving yourself open to attack. Wait until Mae or GG see that one. Gonna stick a fork in you pal, I think that one is going to see you done. [b][i]ROTFLMAO[/i][/b] 😉 😀 :^0

I would have expected you to think a little more carefully before posting that. They do claim fools walk where angels fear to tread; handing Mae or GG, that kind of ammunition; what were you thinking??? Maybe you were being distracted by the volume of those show tunes you were listening to as you posted. 😉

Hope the boys are with you this weekend and together, you all have a great 4th. BTW, they’re old enough now where you might want to consider letting them have a beer with their old man. Sharing a beer with one’s dad, when you’re 13 – 14, is one of those rights of passage that a teen goes through and just one of those minor little details, that helps cement bonds. I’m not suggesting you get them hammered, just one and they coild share one. Anyway, have a good one.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

WELL

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JESUS CHRYSLER!!

You must

In reply to WELL

be a Screaming Blue Messiah’s fan. The whole title to the song is Jesus Chrysler Drives a Dodge.

If it’s not the song you are refering to, perhaps you should get another saying..this one has been a bit overused at this point.

Please do not feed the troll

In reply to LOL!!! Protesteth too much, you say?? Only Jd would have…………. :^0

This is what I call a BIG coincidence and unworthy of further comment.

:) right you are

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Rob

they haven’t done a beer yet

In reply to LOL!!! Protesteth too much, you say?? Only Jd would have…………. :^0

but they have got to sample the scotch… and some of the wine. 😀 Sips of beer here or there, but never a whole can yet. With things being kind of shaky with the EX right now, I would be afraid to give them a whole one right now. maybe up at deer camp! B-) First deer camp, don’tchaknow?

it’s about time

In reply to they haven’t done a beer yet

they had a zip with their ol’man. 😀 😉

Have a nice trip JD. See to it that they come back in one piece.

Rob

An absolute at deer camp!

In reply to they haven’t done a beer yet

Especially their FIRST deer camp. Rites of passage and all that!

This will be a memorable event for all three of you. Something about the first time out- hopefully you will even shoot a tasty animal!

We will be heading north mid September to clear trail and get a new deer stand built. And potentially get a partridge or several. Although the better time for partridge is mid October.

You are going to have to post after deer season and let us know how it goes.

Maybe it is just me, but I just can’t shoot a

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bambi. I just can’t. I can watch Godzilla meet Bambi, but I can’t shoot Bambi. I have fished though and that was fun to do while “roughing” it. 🙂

We did the deep woods camping thing a few summers ago. Put up the lean to from the brush we found, we literally brought only one backpack and cooler with emergency stuff, other than that we lived off the land. It was a really cool experience. Wasn’t totally roughing it though, since if I walked 3 miles I could use the showers at the local RV park. 😉

I hunt birds, noisy little buggers at 4 AM, and I fish but……………

In reply to Maybe it is just me, but I just can’t shoot a

I don’t hunt game unless it shoots back. I could if I needed to but as much as I like venison and moose meat, I don’t feel I have no pressing urge to be the one to go out and kill it.

If I was unemployed and it was a matter of putting meat on the table for my family, I would but I’m not unemployed and have no family to speak of now, so I let others take my ticket and if they’re lucky they always bring me some back.

I will go on hunting trips but I bring a camera with me. I will hunt ducks and geese and go after crows with a 22, no problem. I enjoy fishing and keep most trout, salmon or arctic char I take providing they’re legal for size and weight. I don’t even have a problem shooting people but I do have a problem shooting an animal that isn’t shooting at me. Still haven’t figured out why that should be but that’s the way it is.

It’s probably a good thing that I don’t hunt animals. Whenever I’ve been in the bush during hunting season, I find there are an awful lot of idiots out there who let fly at just about anything. More than once I’ve had to hit the dirt because some idiot, thought I might be a deer and decided to take a shot at me sight unseen. A few years ago, I was angry enough to go after a guy and I smashed the stock of his rifle after he had pumped three or four rounds within inches of me. The great white hunter never even heard me until I was on top of him, yanking his gun away.

Somebody once said the only reason some people are alive,is that it is illegal to shoot then. How very true. I have actually seen farmers paintnthe words “cow” or “horse” on the flanks of their animals and heard later somebody still shot them. A friend of mine, a horse breeder and trainer, actually was holding the bridle of a horse that some trigger happy arsehole shot in an enclosure right next to his house.

My friend hunted the guy down and when the police arrived, the guy kept protesting it was an accident and couldn’t understand what all the fuss was about. I wonder if he finally figured it out when the judge gave him a lifetime suspension on his hunting license, fined the idiot $500 and awarded ny friend $50,000 damages for the loss of his horse.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

After the incident in Wisconsin

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We are very cautious and only hunt our own land. Even that is no guarentee. The fact that you have to cross a swamp to GET to our land helps some.

There are a bunch of idiots out there. I think that my partner just really likes going out there and doing the hunting. I stay away from deer- I just don’t have the ability to spend the entire day from sun up to sun down in a deer stand. I like the partridges, but I am better for cleaning than shooting- they are pretty little.

The best of it is having the time with my partner- no laptop, no cell phone (unless we turn one on), no pressure. For about a week, we can hang out, talk all night, just be together and enjoy some quality time. No excess baggage, no curlers and makeup, no dealing with anything outside of us. That is the real attraction.

And the chickadees. We really like feeding the chickadees.

We are both looking forward to seeing what all we can do after 6 months of walking. We agree that we are in the best shape of our lives just now and that training can’t end after the 3 Day. After all, I will be walking next year too.

Chipmunks in dry leaves wake you up too

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I don?t hunt either but I?d love to take a shot like this one.

http://tinyurl.com/h9xgv

Years ago I helped move some furniture for a couple because I had a pickup truck and he didn?t, I guess. The guy was a field photographer for The Audubon Society and I can?t remember his name. That perked my interest in photography after seeing the prints he had and learning that he got [b]paid well[/b] for doing it. I have one print hanging on the wall inside my head that has at least a dozen baby raccoons in it. Awesome shot!

I?ve tried my hand at film photography, read up on it, subscribed to a few magazines, used different techniques, you name it. [i]I[/i] never took a picture that was much worth keeping beyond more than being a keepsake.

Now that decent digital cameras exist and are relatively affordable I have 3 of them. I say that taking good pictures is a natural talent. I still end up with crappy shots. I?m a frustrated artist. Nothing (artistically speaking) satisfies me. I can?t paint, can?t draw (unless it?s an engineering drawing), can?t write worth a damn, and can?t take good pictures… The only thing that let me vent my frustrations was making things out of metal. At least I got paid for doing that.

If I had my own shop I?d make complex metal art pieces. If [i]it[/i] can be made out of metal I can make it. At least I could. When the hand cooperates again I should be good to go again.

There never seems to be enough time and/or money to do what you really want to do. Just thinking about it, I haven?t tried clay and sculptures yet. That could be good hand therapy too. Maybe I’ll make an ashtray.

Different defintions of “hunting”

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I see deer every year, but have never fired at one. Have either not had the shot I wanted, or it wasn’t a buck worth the taking, or both.

I don’t CARE if I shoot my rifle all season, as that isn’t what it is all about for me. It is a time away, my best friend and me up until now. He was my best man, and is so close, the boys refer to him as “uncle keith” although there isn’t any blood relations. This year it will be the four of us, taking off. I am so looking forward to this.

We are also going to be doing the bow hunting, so we can be out when it is NICE out and even stay in tents. For rifle, we are looking at the Upper Penincula, around Paridise, and just stay in a motel somewhere. I can see I am going to have to start a discussion on “Rites of passage” into adulthood so I can start making the plans now.

So, while I LOVE to go hunting, I don’t do a lot of killing. I know the animals I have looked at through the sites of my rifle or pistols, know I had them dead, had I chosen. Good enough for me. Someday I will take my first buck.

Got the bows out over the weekend

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Their cousins were in town, so we lined up with the bows and had a grand time of it.

Got a great deal in a rumage sale for Thing Two, and got a $400 setup for $50!

Thing One is left-eye dominate so it is a little harder. Lucy a bud of mine came through and found him a left-handed bow. It is an adult bow, but thing one is a little bigger than thing two, and so the bow is only a little big and can shoot it just fine.

Being a little more traditional, I just use a simple recurv, that they weren’t impressed with because it isn’t as fancy-shmansy as the compounds, UNTIL I started to shoot it. When they saw how nicely it shoots they HAD to try it. Of course at almost triple the poundage of what their compounds are set for, again the respect for the old bow went up. B-)

Tig, your a hunter? SWEET! I can see we will have to start a discussion around hunting season!

Maybe should start new topic anyway

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so we can get away from the “troll tomp12” thread.

lets stay on MY topic,

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LETS STAY ON MY TOPIC!

Lupo?

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who is tomp12? Never heard of him.

Must not having anything worth saying.

JD, you took the words right out of my mouth

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Now what song is that. 🙂

Pity tho it is you JD that give the setup. 🙁 Otherwise I would have probably enjoyed the next line of the song. 🙂 😉 That, if it were one of the female TR-members. :0 😉 [i]I better shut-up now[/i]

But then again it is back on some-one’s topic. 😀 😉

Rob

Hugs appropriately

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I see know problem with exchanging hugs in the work place PROVIDING this type of expression has been a cultural component of the working environment, and accepted in the past. Additionally, It would be presumptious of anyone to hug a new member of a work team, perhaps a rose and a Baby Ruth would go well with a hug or two!.

Whats for dinner tonight?

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[b]Favorite recipe time![/b]

Tonight for dinner is “Surf and Turf” stirfry!

Some finely sliced sirloin and some shrimp and lots of whole leaf FRESH spinich!
Drat, can’t remember all the ingredients! I know there is some wine in there as well. Some ginger maybe? Will have to post the rest of the recipe tonight when I get home (in about 5 hours).

What are you making?

Have to check the ice box

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was that Deer Steak,
man been to long since I had a fine breakfast of Fried Potatoes, Eggs and Deer Tenderloin. It was a good corn fed deer too, not some nasty swampbuck.

Our power was out for close to 24 hours.
If the hamburger survived, then burgers. If not, I’ll order in a pizza for the kids and a six pack of Mich Ultra for me.

what is good for deer tenderloin

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venison fajitas! Oh my, but you haven’t tasted venison until you have it like this!

Slice it thin, marinade it for a bit in the fridge, and then fry it up! (in a basket on the grill works GREAT!)

That remindes me, that I have some deer in my freezer. Have to dig it out and do something with it tomorrow! Thanks for reminding me. 😀

Oh man that sounds good!

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And thank you as well!
Those fajitas sound like they will be incredible.

one note

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man, you are really dating yourself if you use a word like “ice box”…… :0

I would BET half the members here don’t even know what a real ice box IS! (Hillary Clinton! 😀 )

I have seen them in musiums only….. :p (not Hillary)

Ohhhh,,

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Whohh,, *L*
You almost got me there, although I’m only 40.
Both my Dad and Step Dad were born in 1918. I picked up ice-box and a few other terms that stuck with me through the years.
Good thing I let go of the old Spice and Aqua Velva habit.

oh the horror, the horror

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of future generations having to walk around whistling the old spice theme…… :0

How about people that carry around bars of soap AND knives AND stand around cutting them open as if this will show you how good a soap is? (I do use that soap though, JUST so I can cut it up!)

But sorry, no icebox! 😀 (39)

How about Tomp12’s liver, sauteed with onions and served with fava beans???

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A recipe recommended by Hannibal Lecter.

Wash it all down with a nice beaujolais. On second thought lets serve that to the cats and order in some pizza and beer.

I never understood

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how people can eat Liver. Hello? It is a WASTE FILTER people?!?!?!

Pizza and beer sounds good to me! 😀

Chili-Mac’s by Michelinas $0.89 each.

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Add 1 cup or so of grated cheese after nuking them for 3:30 on high and peeling the lid off. Mix in a lot of chopped Portabella mushrooms, some [i]hot[/i] salsa and pre-cooked ground beef. Nuke it for another 1:30 and stir after it’s done. Serve with beer.

Their Shrimp Alfredo is great if you throw some real Swiss cheese slices on top before nuking it the second time. Cheap and good eats.

skyline chili

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is now available in the freezer section. mmmmm.

Still not as good as hitting cincinatti and finding a skyline, but it does save me $40 in gas.

I have even started mixing rice in with my chili.

You’re talking about

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my home town. Cincinnati, by the way..

Skyline is good, but Dixie chili is better. When I was a kid, we had Crystal chili, which was best, (at least in my humble opinion).

And where in the hell does rice fit in to this??

Mae, and playing with rice

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been trying different rice dishes lately.

Make up some rice, drop in a big chunk of cheese, some chicken and some broccoli, and I can’t make enough for my boys. Matter of fact, the boys are excited because I went out and bought a bigger steamer, because with the one it would not make enough rice for the size of the dish I need to feed the three of us. That will be tonight! Made extra chicken last night just for this!

Anyways, I started mixing more things with the rice, and chili worked out nicely. 😀 Haven’t tried it with the skyline yet, but it should be good.

[b]Dixie?[/b] Will have to make a point of finding one of those the next time I pass through. We do chow on the skyline! Went to camp in the smokies the year before, and three years ago went to coney island with the boys. (that was the last big trip with the EX).

Even got a recipe off the net for making something LIKE skylines, but it wasn’t quite the same. (maybe if you make it in a clean pan it doesn’t taste the same?)

Yeah, we are practically neighbors, because it is only about a seven hour ride away. ;\

😡

JD

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Through both pregnancies, the only thing I ever had a true craving for was Dixie chili. I ate there at least twice a week. Neither of my boys like it at all. Guess they had too much right off the bat.

I worked at a chili parlor for a few years as a teenager (gold star – definitely inferior to skyline and Dixie chili) and that put me off of it for a while..but I came back.

Last time I was diverted to Cinci ariport

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I looked through the airport for chili but didn’t find any. I did find a good Mexican takeout though.

I went to a souvenir place and have a package of Cinicinati chili spice with the recipe. The helpful shop person suggested I add a tablespoon of good cocoa to the mix to make it taste like Dixie (IIRC).

James

Actually

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It’s cinnamon that makes cincinnati chili unique.

Only in the Midwest

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Would you hear the words “rice” and “chili” in the same sentence.

As a native Californian (now living in the Midwest- 10 years and counting…) I can tell you with certainty, rice does not belong in chili. Jalapenos do belong n chili but not if you get heartburn…

As it was yesterday

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We had a nice salade.
This due to the warm mosty weather we were having yesterday (today it is just warm 32 C)

Well the salade, for 4 persons:
2 tea-cups Rice, 4 mandarins, 1 dutch green peppers, 2 union, 300 g Leerdammer* cheese.
– Boil the Rice
– clean the mandarins, slice the parts in half
– clean the dutch green pepper slice it in part of 1 inch to 1/8 inch
– clean the union, slice it in parts of 1/8 size of the dutch green pepper slices.
– Cut the Leerdammer cheese in cubicals of 1/3 inch

Bake the sliced unions to a nice brown colour, when halfway done put in the dutch peppers, Add the rice and mandarin, and just before serving add the cheese. Done! It’s great on a hot day.

Rob

* Leerdammer cheese much like Swiss Emmenthaler cheese but not that sharp in the after bite (if you can speak of a sharpe after bite on emmenthaler cheese)

JD – all these food dicsussions are getting to me

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though I really can’t complain. I tried something new this weekend. I took a really nice piece of salmon and marinated it in Lemon, pepper, salt, and some other herbs. Then I breaded it lightly and grilled it with lemmon juice.

It was so tender and really didn’t need much of a side. I did serve it on some nice brown long grain rice.

sounds good to me

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I took the left over chicken, pulled it into pieces, and made fajitas out of it.

mmmmmmmmm!

A good change from the steak fajitas we make every week! (next week, back to steak!) :p

JD

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Did you get any bad weather over the holiday weekend? We got a lot of rain and wind here one night but the weather was great after that. The wind blew my neighbors 3 foot diameter tree over onto the power-lines but the utility company came out right away and had it fixed by 0215.

weather was just fine

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some isolated showers on Monday, but only lasted about five minutes.

Sat, I slept all day because I still wasn’t feeling well. Sunday was wonderful, and took the boys over to swim with my brothers boys who were in town for the weekend from ItGirlies neck of the woods. I think my bro is about an hour from her.

Wind? Nothing to write home to mom about. It really has been segmented in Michigan for the last year.

STAY TO THE TOPIC OF

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TO jdclyde:

STAY TO THE TOPIC OF “HUGGING IN THE WORKPLACE” OR I WILL HAVE YOUR POSTING PRIVILEDGES REVOKED!

Go ahead

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Just try it Troll Boy.

You will find you have no traction here…

Tomp12 would have lots of traction if we could ever get hold of him.

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About eight to twelve weeks worth, as a charity case, unable to communicate due to a wired jaw and because not even his own mother would be able to recognize him. This would be the result of having stripped him bare assed naked and thrown him into a leather bar full of gay bikers. A more fitting treatment than he deserves, because he would obviously enjoy it.

Ah well, what can you say? It’s an imperfect world but tomp12 is more imperfect than most.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Hey Dawg —

In reply to Tomp12 would have lots of traction if we could ever get hold of him.

At least he would get all the HUGS he needs.

Bonus plan

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as he would get all the hugs he can handle as he is passes off in exchange for smokes!

Prison love? :0

With you being a city feller and all

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I gotta say that sometimes you sure do kinda think like a redneck [i]and[/i] it looks like you’re spoiling for a fight. I take it you’re posting before having that second cup of coffee again.

Try not to get all busted up if you find a good fight or just go ahead and rip ME to bytes if it’ll settle you down for a bit. (everybody applaud here) You’ve got enough material to work with so commence ta’ ripping and don’t feel bad about picking on such a nice a guy as myself who can’t fight back well, who also wears glasses and has his hand all “screwed” up and is gentle with small animals, dogs and cats, feeds the wild birds all year round and is kind to old ladies, gives to the needy, is also respectful around women and is unemployed. Not that you would feel bad.

(Man! The things you gotta do to settle your friends down sometimes!)(Looking over each shoulder)

Anyway whattaya have against gay bikers that you’d throw tomp12 in there nekkid? He might like that you know. You never thought of that did you? Jesus Chrysler!

I was only thinking of you if you went to stomping him. The cast on …….

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hand might throw your balance off to that side causing you to fall and hurt yourself further.

I was just thinking, if he got a serious nosebleed, we could tie a tourniquet around his neck.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Pretty good

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It must be you already went and ripped a coupla’ phone books in half or sumthin’.

If he was down he might need a couple dozen sharp raps on the side of his head to check his fluid level. There probably isn’t enough blood going to his brain that a tourniquet would make any difference.

No no no Busted!

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NEVER talk about tom “going down” while his is a gay biker bar! This is a family program, don’tchaknow? 😀

Parents!!

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Cover yer younguns eyeballs afore they get tainted by my evil doin’s.

Or better yet, a disclaimer!

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Kids! Don’t try THAT at home! :0

Oh wait

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Dern it. Dawg [i]did[/i] think of that! Some of them city fellers kin be brainy ones.

JD

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I’ll miss you when you’re gone.

I had better get busy

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I think I have a limited shelf life as the noobling seems to think he/she/it has some pull with the PTB!

So I guess I should get as many posts in, as far off topic while I can?

Been grand knowing you Mae! 😡

You should be feeling better

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between all the scotch, vodka, and chicken soup you have been supplied with (well told to have anyway).

Glad you are starting to do better. When you say segmented in MI, what do you mean? Only some of MI is getting bad weather? Just curious. We have been drowning in my part of the cosmos. Rain, Rain, Rain, Rain and more Rain with lots of Humdidity (spelled that way on purpose).

issolated weather

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we do have a lot of peaks and valleys, so the weather breaks up a lot around it.

I have had days where it was sunny all day long, and my boys would be STUCK at their female-parental-units love shack about 25 miles away and it rained all day. (I think it is just that bad luck storm cloud that follows her around, but that is just my opinion!)

I also drive 65 miles each way to work, and can go from one extreme to another by the time I get to work. Many days of going 45 mph down I-75, and turning my hour drive into a two hour drive (each way). But that is ok, I work salary! 😀

Been warm, but the humidity hasn’t been to bad this year.

Need to get back to the store, as I am down to my last four bottles of scotch! AAAAAAA! Run for your lives! B-)

Didn’t do the vodka though. LOTS of scotch and soup though! ;\

Off-topic post – hugging your cat

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First of all, is it proper?

What if someone sees you? What would the neighbors say? :0

I believe hugging of your cat should be allowed as long as know one sees you groping!

E-MAIL ME at CatHugger@netscape.com

Off topic post – hugging your goldfish

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I can say, that with or without groping, you should NEVER hug your goldfish. Boy, THAT is a lesson you learn quickly.

By the way, do you know how hard it is to get goldfish scales out from under your fingernails??

I think it is safe to say

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that NO, I do NOT know how HARD it is to get the scales out! :0

Maybe your tuna and my [b]pussy[/b]cat would like to hug? ;\

I’m sure

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Mr. Pink would love to play with your cat. He seems tired though, he’s been swimming upside down for a few days.

well then

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after he has a chance to rest up, we will have to set up a playdate!

chicken soup and scotch? 😀

Sure..

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as long as there is plenty O hugging.

Mae, you do realize, don’t you, that fish scales………………………

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are used to add glitter to thinks like lipstick, nail polish and other makeup products.

Gives new meaning to the phrase. “it was like kissing a cold(dead?) fish.” :p

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Dawg…

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good to know. I’m kinda past the whole ‘glitter’ stage in life. I’m going for a more classic look. Besides, my lips are gorgeous all on their own.. 🙂

So your telling us

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no fish lips? 😀

Well..

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I’ve never heard them described that way. Although, it IS good to know about the fish scale thing..if I run out of lipstick, I’ll just kiss Mr. Pink.

Mambo Marker here

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Just a marker to be sure that I don’t accidently read anything beyond this point. With a lead-in like “kiss Mr. Pink” this portion can only go straight to the gutter.

OMG!

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you sick b@stard! That’s my son’s name for his goldfish. I am horribly offended.

Besides.. I don’t think kissing what you’re talking about kissing would make my lips glittery.

I suppose Mae

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[b]it is more of a glazed look?[/b]

She’s really upset with me again,
I didn’t give her what she likes.
I don’t know what to tell her,
Don’t know what to say.
Everything got funky last night.

She Was Really Bombed,
And I was really blown away,
Until I asked her what she wanted,
And this is what she had to say:
A pearl necklace.
She wanna pearl necklace.
She wanna pearl necklace.

She gets a charge out of bein’ so weird,
Digs gettin’ downright strange.
But I can keep a handle on anything,
Just this side of deranged.

She was gettin’ bombed,
And I was gettin’ blown away,
And she held it in her hand
And this is what she had to say:
A pearl necklace.
She wanna pearl necklace.
She wanna pearl necklace.

She is so tough, as pure as the driven slush.
And that’s not true what she’s talkin’ about,
It really don’t cost that much.

She was gettin’ bombed,
And I was gettin’ blown away,
And she took it in her hand,
And this is what she had to say:
A pearl necklace.
She wanna pearl necklace.
She wanna pearl necklace.

Sure…

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But even a pearl necklace isn’t glittery. Or at least it SHOULDN’T be..

Edited because I just got JD’s ‘glazed’ comment.

I’m slow. And you are just, well..you.

Dear CatHugger

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I couldn’t send you this email to your netscrape account. I think your system is blocking me! And I just wanted to tell you how important I think it is to hug your cat! Cats like to be hugged and petted. They will reward your diligence with purring and cat fur.

You should ALWAYS hug your cats!

Who cares what the neighbours think?

But your right- groping is strictly OFF LIMITS!
🙂

of course

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i hug my cat! all the time..like 10 times a day! 🙂

Kitties deserve hugs..i even kiss mine..not on the lips mind you. usually the top of the head or on the cheek.

I normally don’t do it in front of the neighbours. I guess you’d call me a closet cat hugger. not that i’m ashamed mind you..just you know, some people might not think its right and go all wierd.

i’m sure it illegal in certain US states, but i am unsure of current legislation in Ireland.
But its MY cat, and if I want to it IT, then i will..
(no groping though)

if you’ve any problems, feel free to email me at:

whothef*ckistomp12whennobodyshomeandwhoreallycares@idiotsareus.ie

I have a problem

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but it seems I must have mistyped in your address.
Maybe if I try to copy-n-paste it in? ;\

Yeah, the neighbors do kind of “give you the look”, and then call their kids in the house…….

I don’t think it’s illegal in the US

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Of course, I will continue to hug my cat regardless!

As long as groping is STRICTLY off limits. People will think you’ve gone strange!

Incidentally- LOVE the email address. Must add it to my Christmas card list…

JD how dare you? This is SO inappropriate :0

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Now you know my dogs are going to snort your cats to death. That is how pugs great everyone. They snort on them. over and over and over…

is it an addiction?

In reply to JD how dare you? This is SO inappropriate :0

i know there is help for people who snort cocaine, but not so sure about dogs who snort cats..

tee hee.. 🙂

Shellbot – didn’t I say snort on cats????

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I thought I said they will snort on the cats. Hmmmm, my typing must be really off today. Maybe snort cats was a faux pas and maybe some subconsious understanding of their need to snort.

Ever heard a pug snort? It isn’t like pigs even though the correct spelling for pug is P-I-G

pugs?

In reply to JD how dare you? This is SO inappropriate :0

aren’t those the little fake dogs that look and feel just like footballs? :0

My cat chases my Black Lab/Boxer around the house, so I don’t think he has much to fear from a football dog! 😀

Anyone watch “Cats and dogs” over the weekend? what a cool show! “bad talking cat!” ;\

Well mine were raised by cats and a

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Great Dane, so I wouldn’t be too sure these guys wouldn’t give your cat something to think about. 😉

No time for watching movies and tv right now, but it is on the list of things to do.

Cats should be hugged

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Until they pop. They make such a cool sound.
Just be sure to point them away from people to avoid unsightly stains.

DMambo- you stop that!

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Or I will tell GG on you and she will call out the Impure Brigade and leave you glowing FOREVER!

So there!

Cats are good and loving creatures. They are soft and furry and lovable. They are NOT for popping!

bad mambo

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no pussycat popping! Bad! X-(

That was great!

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I love cats, but that was still too funny. It’s the second time you made me cry laughing today. Thanks D.

Now I’ve seen it all. One wants to snort them the other wants to pop them.

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I’ve seen and heard and done some pretty weird things in my life but snorting or popping a P_U_S_S_Y………….. hmmmmmmm, come to think of it, maybe I have done the latter. Maybe that’s what Mambo has in mind when he talks about popping P_U_S_S_Ys.

[b]NOW[/b] you can watch him blush.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

A certain numeric position

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Could conceivably be considered “snorting”, I guess.

Glow DMambo, GLOW!!!

Thanks for the opening, Dawg! 😀

DAWG – Stop making me laugh so hard

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That is not a good thing. Thank goodness I waited until I got home to read this one from you!!!!

I once had a red-bellied piranha

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His name was “Psycho” although, thinking about it, Mae’s goldfishes name would have been pretty appropriate if he hadn’t lived before Reservoir Dogs. I bought him for a pound when he was an inch long and sold him for ?120 when he was eight inches long because I was off to Uni and he scared the crap out of Mum. He would have loved to have met your cat. Mmmmmmm pu$$y…

We didn’t do “hugs”, not when the damn fish could leave toothmarks in surgical steel forceps.

Thank you, Neil..

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at least YOU understand where Mr. Pink comes from.

Leave it to JD and Mambo to make it something dirty.
I don’t know how much more I can take. I am delicate.

Mr. Pink?

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“Why am I Mr. Pink?”

“Cause you’re a f4gg0t, all right?!”

Great movie!! 😀

Steve Buscemi

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Is one of my all time favorites. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him in something where I didn’t love his character.

Buschemi was great in “Trees Lounge”

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More a starring role for him. I have the VHS if you’re interested. I can send it to you…I don’t watch many tapes anymore. Let me know, it’s all yours (vanessa@computers-unlimited.com). His brother still lives near us here on the Island. My husband knows him but they haven’t spoken for a while. He’s a good guy.

He seems like he would be

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I’ve actually seen Trees Lounge. Didn’t he direct that? Or write it?

Don’t remember about TLounge…it’s been too long ago

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that I saw it, and don’t remember. It was good to see him in more of a central role, though. I love how he just keeps popping up all over the place, very cool.

Me too!

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I want a copy!!!

I will trade you some Red Dwarf.

I can make DVDs from VHS- we need to talk…

Sure, Tig

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You can have it. I’ll welcome in return whatever you think is good. You decide for me. Peer mail me and let me know where to send it. I can probably get it out tomorrow.

WARNING – Thread hijack! – what is your favorite summer drink?

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WARNING – Thread hijack! – what is your favorite summer drink?

I like different drinks based on the weather. Winter time I like coffee drinks, like some brandy or irish whiskey. Oh yeah, I go through a lot of kaluha too. Anyone ever tried tequila in their coffee? mmmmmmmm!

Summer time, I don’t think anything can beat a vodka and lemonaid, except for maybe TWO vodka and lemonaids!

What is your favorite cold weather drink?
What is your favorite hot weather drink?

fav drinks

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ok,
cold weather: tea & peach shapps (however its spelt)

hot weather:
Cider (the alcoholic kind) poured into a pint of ice…

cider?

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Sorry, but your not getting off that easy.

What cider are you refering to? What kind of alchololic?

A bud of mine makes something he calls “yucka”.

Start with a big thermal cooler, pack it with ice, and then dump in five fifths (I don’t remember which, but I know there is vodka and rum in there!).

this is good for an all day canoe trip. Pretty harsh at the beginning of the day, but after the ice starts to melt, (and you get tanked) it starts to taste pretty darn good! Will have to call him and ask what he puts in it, and post if for all! 😀

Used to LOVE peppermint shnapps and chocolate milk! Got milk? ;\

i dunno

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cider..made with apples, gives a bitch of a hangover..eats the lining of your stomach out if you drink it too much.

Neil…you know what i mean don’t ya..
Bulmers/Magners

ok, well..i have a homebrew thats nice over ice for a refreshing drink in the evening:
4 measures Malibu
3 measures Peach Snapps
2 measures vodka
1 measure pineapple juice
1 measure strawberry juice (strawberry Ribena for anyone in the UK)
4 ice cubes..

tangy 🙂

Strongbow Cider

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On a hot day, a nice crisp cold cider with a little kick.

I’ve tried some of the Canadian alcoholic ciders, but they aren’t as good to my taste.

In university I worked at the campus radio station and for the end of the year party they had an infamous drink prepared. Fill a bunch of five gallon food pails with cut up apples, oranges, lemons, pineapple etc. Fill the remaining space with Vodka and grain alcohol – it should cover the fruit. Seal the lid tight. Let sit in a cool place (a cellar etc) for a week. Bring it out on party night, strain and serve over ice.

James

see JD !!!!!!!!!!

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cider…over ice..its not just me 🙂

ugh..James, that sounds vile!! Did everyone live?

I wasn’t putting cider down

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just looking for clerification!

As for James mix, add in some rum!

Not that bad….

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The fruit when covered in alcohol doesn’t rot – it just kinda disintegrates into the alcohol.

Tasted ok – depends on the balance of the fruit.

We all survived though I think the station was not fully staffed the next day.

James

Scrumpy cider – Ooo Arrr! Prroperrr job!

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Scrumpy is farmhouse cider brewed in Somerset and “good” stuff can reach 12% alcohol. I used to drink it as a student as it was cheap. Two pints of dry with a dash of lemonade and I was crippled…

Some of the old guys had serious problems with “The Shakes”. One old boy would come into the pub and order his pint. He would then slide it along the bar until it reached the wall and then he’d slide it up the wall to mouth heights. After a couple of pints, the shakes would go and he’d be playing darts! Another old geezer used to hold the end of his scarf in his left hand, round his neck and the other end in his right (drinking) hand and pull up his pints with the scrf.

Happy days! 😀

What are your demands? :D :p

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well, every hijacker has a demand…..

Ok – winter? Hot buttered rum (ok, mouth’s watering already….!)teeny pinch of cinammon on top of the butter oil…

Summer? Erm, it’s something I “accidentally” invented, literally by accident…..

Known as Melon Mush. Cos I bought three Galia melons which were very ripe, dropped the carrier, and they all squished…..sticky! They were still in the carrier, so I emptied the whole lot into a collander over a pan. While trying to think of a way of retrieving the situation, I had a glass of wine….and munched on the last solid piece of melon…and lo! Melon mush was born!

Dead easy – loads of melon pulp (minus seeds, of course) into a jug with ice, topped up with a bottle of white zinfandel, stir, and add two mint leaves on top…… Wunnaful!

S’very nishe….hic!…s’abit stwong, fo, if you have..ni.nnn…nn//// one over yr limmmmittttt!!

😀 :p

]:)

GG

Why aren’t you jiggling?

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Your avitar sometimes moves and sometimes it just lays there (that reminds me of someone…..). :0

Oh my dear, demands? You have NO idea what your getting yourself into! ]:)

Not sure exactly what your going on about, but I did see you taking about getting sticky, and just clouded over….. :0 😡 (there goes that desk again….)

I never DID get to try that recipe for the buttered rum! 🙁 (yet) This year on the first cold day, I am going to have to make a point of this!

Melon, what KIND of melon? Watermelon? CANTALOUP/musk melon? Honey Dew? I would THINK the honey dew, but with the cultural exchange, I can’t make that assumption.
[i]
(she said she is getting sticky…)

*sigh*

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JD, one day its gonna stay liike that for good, then you’ll be sorry ( the desk)

melon..its got yellow skin, but its pretty close to a honey dew.

Gadget. A recipe…

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You need a blender.

In the blender put the flesh from a ripe galia melon, a big handful of ice and a banana (the texture’s better with a banana) and, of course, your spirit of choice to taste. Vodka is OK but if you can get some, Midori, which is a melon liquer.

Blitz!

Drink!

Quickly, before it melts.

😀

Hmmm. I need to find what the Yanks call’ em…

Postscript

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Weather looks to be warming up for the weekend. At least down here – 26C by Friday.

Sex and the Single Girl : a recipe from the book of that name.

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Add 3 pints of chocolate icecream to a blender.
Add enough water to 8 tsps of instant coffee so you can just pour it into the blender.
Add 1 cup of white rum.
Add some crushed ice.

Blend for about 1 minute, Makes 4 drinks.
The recipe suggested a squirt of whipped cream on top with a cherry but I”ve never added that.

In lieu of chocolate icecream use vanilla and add 4 TBSPs of Nestles Quick. Some people say cocoa but it then requires some sugar.

Normally I’m not partial to sweet drinks but one of my ex-wives conned me into making this and it went down nice and easy on a hot summer day. I had two of them and while they didn’t make me drunk, they did seem to affect my knees a bit. I could walk just fine, it was the standing part that was affected.

BTW your’re jiggling just fine from where I’m sitting. 😡 Don’t pay any attention to Jd, he listens to show tunes, anyway.

The name of your drink here is, “The Maiden’s Downfall.” It’s one of those drinks that goes in nice and easy but if you aren’t careful, can kick like a mule. Almost any melon, except watermelon for some odd reason, can be used.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Well, mine are very tame

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Cold weather (which it never really gets where I live) probably hot chocolate with real dark chocolate in it.

Hot weather — hmmm Ice Tea (not long Island)

long island

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i love those..drink em like mad when i’m out sometimes..cost a fortune though!

i have vague memories of a night drinking them and tequila.. a 6 hour session..it wasn’t pretty 🙁

Country cool drinks

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In hot weather:

1- Mike?s Hard Lemonade
1- Smirnoff ? Triple Black Cool Lime

Mix together over crushed ice in a quart-size mason jar (wrapped with paper towels to minimize condensation and keep your hand from slipping.) 😀

Add Vodka as necessary. Stir.

Unlax and rewind

———–
In cool/cold weather:

Beer – Preferably Bell’s Expedition Stout. It’s an acquired taste… that I’ve acquired. 😡

At $18-$22 🙁 a six pack I don’t have it often but it will ward off the chill’s all by itself. B-)

unlax

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is that anything like exlax? :0

The pre-bottled drinks are always nice to have on hand for when you have company or just want something NOW!

I haven’t had one of those since last night, so I have to really think back to it! ;\

Drinks

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Here lately- especially after walking serious mileage, a dry martini on the rocks followed by a piece of cow on the grill.

In the winter, I prefer anything warm- Bailey’s and coffee is always a winner.

Scotch- elderly and single malt is a year round favourite.

[i]You know my answer for my favourite already but………………..

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In the summer I often put ice in the glass of water on the side.

In the summer, when it’s extremely hot, I like vodka and tonic with lime. Preferably it’s Schweoppes Tonic and I am talking about a wedge of real lime,on the edge of the glass, in preference to lemon, althoigh that’s acceptable if there are no limes available. Of course, the vodka is kept in the freezer and all this is poured over lots of ice.

Another nice refreshing drink is brandy and ginger ale again over lots of ice. A slice of lemon is optional. Remember Cognac is nothing but brandy with delusions of grandeur. In South Africa this drink is called a Sundowner and is usually imbibed around that time of day. very pleasant and refreshing. Nelson Mandela is said to enjoy this drink, but then so did DeKerk.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Summer, winter – all the same to me

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A nice Long Trail Stovepipe Porter, or Harpoon Munich Dark. Two great dark ales brewed in VT.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm!

Of course Guinness is good too, but if I mention that, I’ll get flamed for enjoying the sh!t Guinness that we get here in the Western World.

I’ll be right back

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http://tinyurl.com/llown

LOL!!! Okay but remember, if you shake it more than twice you’re…….. :p

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playing with it. :^0

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

also

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if your smiling, your not doing it right! :0

I’m back

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http://tinyurl.com/frp5h

HIJACK WARNING!!! Walk Update!

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Saturday morning the partner and I got up at 5:00 IN THE MORNING and infused coffee. Then we went out to the place we walk on Saturdays and walked two miles. Then we met up with the team and walked another 14 miles. Then we walked another mile to cool down. 17.08 miles total.

And people wonder about my steak and a martini habit…

I have discovered this to be absolutely true- changing your socks after 10 miles is almost enough to be considered a religious experience! Try it, I’m right!

Sunday we slept in an hour… ish. We both woke up at around 4:00 a.m. and spent a couple of hours tossing and turning. Finally gave it up and got up… and walked 13 miles.

This was the first walk I was really scared of. We did 11 miles earlier in the week and then another 30 over Saturday and Sunday. And I didn’t think I could do it.

Credit where due- my team and my partner kept me going. One of my teammates poured ice water over my head at one point. I needed that.

I am pretty proud of myself. Next weekend it will be 18 miles/15 miles. And not too far from the 20/20/20!

I fail to see

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what this has to do with hugging. You’re going to lose your right to post, Missy. Now..talk about HUGGING or just go away!!

Okay..what I MEANT to say is..WOW. How awesome! You’ve been my inspiration to drag my tired old a$$ out to walk every night after work. And today, I had already talked myself out of it (it’s overcast..I don’t need much of an excuse) BUT..I’m going to quit being a whiny a$$ t*tty baby and walk. Even if it rains.

That’s fair

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How about this- After 30 miles in two days, I need a hug???

Keep going girl. I get my best inspiration from all of YOU!

Environmental Training

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If it helps any- we’re expecting 95 degrees with 80% humidity today. But only 5 miles so that isn’t so bad.

Congrats for getting out there and doing it anyway. I KNOW how hard that is!

I wonder if I can get Max to turn off the global warming in August…

You shoulda

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seen how far I just had to go. Dang Chinese sonsabit….

And… since I’ll never be able to use this anyplace else:
http://tinyurl.com/esymo

jesus chrysler

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Jesus Chrysler

Go away Troll Boy

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You are beginning to irritate me.

I know a Sleepin DAWG with really big teeth. I am certain that he would like a bite.. assuming that the nice survivor lady left anything…

You really are pathetic.

In case you haven’t noticed

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TiggerTwo is just four letters away from Tiger and she is definitely not alone in the TR community. You’re dinking with us and we know it Jacob, “it”, tomp12 or whatever else you want to call yourself today.

Take some advice from me flamebait… on second thought… don’t, I don’t have any advice I care to give you. You’ve made your bed already, so lie in it.

Edit: I’ll save your troubled wit, ya twit, the effort of posting a reply. We all know… JESUS CHRYSLER! Now go get Mommy and Daddy to tuck you in. Time for your nappypoo.

Some days I just love you!

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Nappypoo?

That is rich!

Good to know when you are with friends!

Shhhhhhh…

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you’ll wake up the baby.

TT/NB you folks are too funny

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I gotta control the empathy factor. I don’t think I could say what you do to the “troll”. Too bad, we could have had some good discussions, but troll, troll, dull

Did you hear something?

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Sounded like a baby troll mewling. It’s gone now.

I didn’t hear anything

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NeverBusted I told you to stop drinking that stuff. You are starting to hear things. Now get back to the good Scotch for JD.

ugggg!

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I don’t even want to THINK about walking that far!

What I NEED to do is get out my pedomitor and wear that for a round of golf. It is walking AND pulling a bag of clubs. It is a start.

Tonight I go see the swing doctor to fix my drive. It really went to heck over the last month of so.

Oh yeah, attagirl Tig! Keep up the good work.

How long does this walk take? three hours?

when is the big day again?

Try the whole bloody DAY!

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Not kidding here- got to the site at 7:00, left at 4:00. Doesn’t count for down time though…

The big day starts August 18th and ends August 20th. A total of 60 miles over three days. I mean- who CAN’T walk 20 miles a day for 3 straight days?

Hopefully I can.

I need more socks though…

We have a nice boardwalk 7 miles away

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I’m going to go over there tomorrow morning and start walking again. I have official clearance to get back to that today!

I’m about ready to drive out there and cheer you on when you do go the 20/20/20. You will make it. I think you’d make 20/20/20/20 if you set your mind to it. There’s an old saying, “The only easy day was yesterday.” You’re showing that people CAN do, rain or shine, hell or highwater! As we say it, “Good on ya’ Tigger!”

Note: I think I got all those old sayings I keep spouting when they were fresh. They’re old now though.

The official

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pool water temperature is 86F. Is it safe to have this tower pc out so close to the wat

Ok folks, we have our line of the day

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“Kiss Mr. Pink”, and I don’t know if it will be topped tomorrow, but I am sure someone can rise up on it and see what pops up?

How does hugging without groping fit in NOW? Even our ex-President got a grope?

Blew dress anyone? 😀

Is this

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one of them showtune riddles?

If anyone

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would know about showtunes, it WOULD be JD..

That’s the exact same story

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I heard on the streets here in Michigan. JD’s heading towards that same lofty atmosphere of Legend occupied by THE Mambo (famed in song and story coast to coast to coast to coast). I tell people that I’ve actually posted directly to THE Mambo before and they want my autograph. THE Mambo answered one of my posts once but I don’t tell [i]that[/i] because it’s too hard to catch folks when they faint or swoon.

gee mae

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you said you wouldn’t embarrass me in front of the other kids anymore! 🙁

Say hi to mr. pink for us. ;\

Yes, I did..

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unless it was way to easy, then I HAD to. Remember? You have to admit, it was completely unavoidable and pretty much out of my hands..

Mr. Pink says hi..

Stop it, JD- It’s all about ME right now!

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Sheesh- how did you not recogise that?

😀

Incidentally would someone PLEASE send me the emoticon link???

it is NOW, but it wasn’t THEN! :p

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http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22-5269527.html

TT Keep in mind

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That on the link the O has changed into a 0 (zero) and to both an extra space!!

How about that for a change. :0:^0 and :0 :^0
LOL

And I’m proud of you to master the milage you’ve done so far. You will get there on time to master the 20/20/20 🙂

😡
Rob

ps so we’re back on you as it should be sr*w JD for hijacking the triple-hijacked thread 😀 😉
But he did give you that link, didn’t he 😉

[i]edited for the ps[/i]

Thanks Rob

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You are always so supportive. You don’t know how much it helps!

Working on the emoticon thing. One day I will learn bold and italics too!

😡 … if I got it right…

right you are :)

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But the [b]bold[/b] thing is much harder then the [i]italic[/i] thing. [b]Bold[/b] is double writing as [i]italic[/i] is just hitting the writing in to form 😀 😉
But you will get the gripp 😉

And of cource: your welcome, it is/was no problem.

Rob

I could use that link too

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I have to keep figuring it out from the old method. 🙁 wouldn’t mind the editing stuff too for bold, italic. I want to know how you folks are doing that.