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    • #3143612

      Hear hear!!

      by mirrormirror ·

      In reply to US Military – Well Done!

      Well done indeed! Nailed that turd and a bunch of his cronies. And, he was sold out by someone close to him. At least, that is what I have heard.

      I have also heard that Al-Qaida is saying that Zarqawi(sorry for bad spelling) is now a martyr and is basically in heavan…I bet he never thought heavan would be so hot.

    • #3143609

      Making Progress

      by ccthompson ·

      In reply to US Military – Well Done!

      One down, thousands to go.

      With all the crazy things that are going on over there, with the civilian shootings and all, its good to hear of progress from the media, instead of things that hardly pertain to the mission.

      3 cheers for the US military

    • #3143569

      I am torn here

      by jdclyde ·

      In reply to US Military – Well Done!

      While I don’t usually rejoice in the death of someone, I find myself in that situation now.

      This scum has done a lot of harm to muslims and non-muslims alike, and the world is a better place for him not being in it.

      I went to the New York Times web site, but strangly enough, a major story like this and not a mention?

      Checking google, the BBC is at the top of the list, and MSNBC is the only other major news outlet to be listed?

      How is this not front page material, based on how globably important this is?

      Oh yeah, I forgot. This might be seen as good news for the Bush Administration, so it must not be discussed.

      al-Zarqawi, welcome to hell. Sorry, no orgy in Heaven for you.

      • #3143559

        Same pinch

        by onbliss ·

        In reply to I am torn here

        I do not usually rejoice at any death. This person was known to be causing mayhem and death. It is nice to know that he will not be causing any more of those.

        Above all, this could potentially have saved countless innocent Iraqi deaths. Good news for the Iraqis.

        BTW, I just checked (9:50am cst) NYTimes, and they do have the news with a picture.

        • #3143535

          ny times

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Same pinch

          I had searched on their site, as well as through Google, and it wasn’t up yet.

          Being as I had heard it on the radio at 6am, it seems funny that they would be so slow to get it up?

      • #3143557

        It lead on CBC radio this morning

        by jamesrl ·

        In reply to I am torn here

        I am mixed on this.

        My preference would be that he is captured so that a) he is NOT martyed and b) he might inadvertantly give some vital information up.

        But it would be more difficult to mount a scoop operation than an airstrike, and if its a question of hitting him or letting him go, I say hit him.

        But just as George Bush said this morning, this is something to be approached cautiously. There is no telling whether Zarkawi’s martyrdom will add more converts, or whether his successor will be more ruthless or successful than him.


        • #3143549


          by onbliss ·

          In reply to It lead on CBC radio this morning

          This probably will add more converts, but the presence or absence of leadership is quite important. In the absence of a good leadership (or perceived leadership), any new converts’ impacts are going to fizzle out soon, unless a far good leader emerges from the new converts.

        • #3143544


          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Leadership

          Its a very human trait we have of personalizing things down to “evil” individuals. Hitler was one man, it took a huge organization to do the holocaust and there were many individuals in that group who no doubt would have done it with or without Hitler. Hitler didn’t attend the Wannsee conference where the “final solution” was planned.

          From my readings, I understand that Al Qeada is not a strict hierarchical type organization. Its quite possible that though Zaqawi was the “leader” in Iraq, he may not have been personally directing all the attacks or even setting policies. It may get worse, it may get better, I hope for the latter.


        • #3143536

          The problem is

          by tig2 ·

          In reply to Leadership

          At one time you could slay the beast by removing its’ head. With the way Al Qaeda is organised- at least as much as we know- is that the loss of a single leader doesn’t slow much down. There are other cells, other leaders. Replacing him might take a day. More likely, there is a disaster plan already in place.

          The way that I visualise Al Qaeda is more like a hydra- a multiple headed beast that simply grows two new heads when one is removed.

          I wish I knew what the answer is. What seems to be evident is that there are going to continue to be those who believe that the best course of action is terrorism.

        • #3143500

          TT & James: Only Time will tell

          by onbliss ·

          In reply to The problem is

          I am no expert on terrorism or human psychology 🙂
          But sometimes we do give too much credit to certain things.
          Will this single action wipe out all terrorism, obviously not. Yes there will be new leaders in the future causing destruction and spreading terror.

          But when we remove the air from a balloon,it takes sometime to fill the balloon back in. Meanwhile…we can accomplish some more things.

        • #3143491

          The only solution

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to The problem is

          is to cut the heads off as fast as they dare to show themselves.

          Make that a priority. After a while people will be less inclined to be the next to get taken out. They want to be the ones SENDING people do die, not to die themselves.

        • #3143533

          A trend

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to It lead on CBC radio this morning

          I am hoping to set a trend, of the next weasle to stick its head out of the hole should get the same fate, as quickly as possible.

          Maybe after enough become dog food, people will think twice before wanting to step up and “be the man”.

    • #3143558

      Caught this in the AM news

      by tig2 ·

      In reply to US Military – Well Done!

      My local station had the grace to present the story neutrally- e.g. “This is what happened”. I believe it was CNN that chose not to this morning. There was discussion about whether or not this was a warrented activity, with additional speculation about collateral damage.

      I am not a Bush supporter, I am an America supporter. If this makes Bush look good, hey- that’s great. To me, what it does is make the Military look good. I am annoyed that, regardless of bias, they can’t give the Military THEIR due kudos.


      • #3143518

        Can’t do that Tig

        by jdclyde ·

        In reply to Caught this in the AM news

        As Commander-in-Chief, anything that reflects well on the Military can and will be viewed as reflecting well for Bush.

        You have to remember, there are many that are against Bush now are the same people that are saying we shouldn’t even HAVE a military.

        Politics as usual, and it makes me sick, as usual.

        • #3143505

          And I am right there with you

          by tig2 ·

          In reply to Can’t do that Tig

          God forbid that we actually praise the people catching the bullets and doing their jobs. It always has to be about the politics.


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