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by oz_media

I don't get it, a woman on the side of the road (proabbly dressed in fishnets and red shoes, with a peekaboo top on)needed a ride to the cop shop?

Now whether it was her crack dealer or pimp she was scared of is irelevant. We ca't deny a pretty woman help solely based on her appearance. In fact I'm sure if she had thre riends with her he would have helped them all.

I just don't see what's wrong with people oferig a helping had without questioning her motives.
Plus you just never know, could be good for a freebee and who wants to take a chace at missing an opportunity, especially politicians.

God only knows who else would sleep with a politician.

Politicians spend their whole lie F***ig people, why should he disciminate based on appearance, she may be a democratic voter!

by itgirli

Take a good look at the headlines. Most things coming out are about "Kerry does not like to be slandered" or "Kerry cares about people" or "Kerry doesn't like Bush (there are so many jokes in that one)" or "Bush screws up again" or "Bush redecorates the oval office". I had to dig to get that piece on Kerry's man and the prostitute. You know why? Because Media is run by liberal commie bastards.

by oz_media

This is't another political discussion is it? I figured it to be pretty funny, like Clinton getting a peice from Lewinsky, who REALLY caes and how does getting laid cloud your ability to run the country?!?

It's just religious morals he stepped on and his wife's pride. I am not saying h is the best man for the job but to impeach people or make news stories about their sex life get real, who cares. What if he was gay? What if he was a hemaphrodite? it is irrelevant.
In this case, it is not Kerry who did it anyway, just a political coat tail hanging politician.

I thought it ws funny andprobably enbarassing for the dude but it hardly has any political impact on Kerry's credibility either way I don't think.

I mean, I'm sure Bush blows goats but nobody cares about that do they?

by sleepin'dawg

most of their parents were married. I would have suggested calling them SOB's but that might excite someone at the ASPCA or the PETA nuts and NOW would probably be screaming about gender bias. Now if you called Kerry a bastard, that does have a degree of plausibility if not possibility. One thing I'm curious about; which one is the victim of this heinous crime???? The man or the woman????

by hereinoz

Liberal commie bastards? When I last looked at the political situation in almost every communist country that existed on this planet, the last word that I would have used to describe any communist government was "liberal". On the contrary, they are almost universally repressive.

So the USA has the only group of liberal communists in the world? I have to say that while I do consider people from the US as sometimes a little unusual, I wasn't aware that they were that different from the rest of humanity.

Liberal Communists? - bit of an oxymoron as far as I can see, and for those of you who don't know what an oxymoron is, rest assured I am not referring to George Bush.

Cheers,

Alan

by garion11

Liberal/Progressive was a word stolen by the Democratic party whose values are similiar and in some instances the SAME as Communism/Socialism. This political system is a very deceptive in its practices and its effect on people. Thats what Itgirl meant.

by hereinoz

I agree that most, if not all, political systems are deceptive in their practices and their effect on people. Please understand that I am not even close to being a socialist or communist, and I am not even a democrat, but to equate your Democratic party with the values of the communist regimes of eastern europe is a bit of a stretch, surely.

That would be the same as taking the Republicans and lobbing them in the same bin as Hitler & Mussolini.

Alan

by tony hopkinson

If the media is supporting Kerry, they believe it is in their business interest to do so, not because they are commie pinkos. Rupert Murdoch is a liberal commie ?. Oh yeah you must be from that place where Bill Gates is so generous he let us purchase our very own operating sytem.

by aldanatech

Graphic Designer Fired After Heckling Bush

CHARLESTON, W.Va. - A man who heckled President Bush at a political rally was fired from his job at an advertising and design company for offending a client who provided tickets to the event. The fired graphic designer said Saturday he won't try to get his job back. "I'm mad less about losing the job ? I'm more mad about the reasons," said Glen Hiller, 35, of Berkeley Springs. "All I did was show up and voice my opinion."

More on this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040822/ap_on_el_pr/bush_heckler_fired&cid=694&ncid=2043

by mrbill-

We are not allowed to voice our opinions if they are counter to the current administration. In some meetings you have to sign statements of support just to attend. I would sign and then voice my opinion, what are they going to do sue me? I'd have my day in court!

by thechas

While the situation and the charges have yet to be resolved, you have to give Mr. Hollowell high marks for stepping down immediately.

Assuming that the charge is false, Mr. Hollowell has sacrificed his personal career for the benefit of the candidate he supports.

Should the charges be upheld and the case go to trial, Mr. Hollowell has at least reduced the national spotlight that would be placed on the case were he to stay in his position with the campaign.

I can think of many "public servants" both Republican and Democrats that should have followed the example of Mr. Hollowell's response to charges.

If Mr. Hollowell left his position at the behest of the Kerry campaign, it shows that the Kerry campaign is concerned with the moral character of it's staff.

Even if the Kerry campaign did not ask Mr. Hollowell to step aside, it shows that Kerry is selecting people with a true sense of personal responsibility.

That is VERY refreshing after the past 12 years of politicians ducking for cover and spinning their misdeeds.

Chas

by itgirli

I have no problem with the guy or with the fact he was with a prostitute. That's his business. I'm upset that if it happened to someone associated with Bush, it would have been front page.

by mrbill-

As with the Bush campaign volunteer who is a Swift boat Vet and in the series of ads blasting Kerry? I did notice how the ads were changed from assailing Kerry's war record to his post-War protests.

by thechas

In Michigan, Mr. Hollowells problems were on the front page of the papers, and lead many local newscasts.

Again, it was because he immediately resigned that the issue has not stayed in the national limelight.
The national media will not deal with this issue because they cannot stir up controversy with it.

Take a look at all public officials both Democrat and Republican who have been pursued by the media after an indiscretion.
Only the ones who did not step down have stayed in the news.

I've said it before in other threads, the US mass media is NOT interested in the specifics of the news. Their goal is RATINGS!
Controversy and innuendo boosts ratings.

Why else does Rush Limbaugh still harp on President Clinton's indiscretion?

Chas

by itgirli

I thought it was funny. but it's even more funny when you get your panties in a bunch.

by oz_media

Much more comfortable and they make me feel OH SO SEXY!!

Leather and lace, that's me! :)

by protiusx

I can't believe I am agreeing with Oz on this but I will say that he shouldn't be judged until he's found guilty by a jury of his peers. I think this is an important part of our judicial process. I think his resignation was an attempt to keep this "mud" from hitting Kerry durring an election run. Now this is where I shake my head and wonder about my fellow Americans. Say he did get busy with the prostitute - what would that have to do with Kerry? Would I think less of Kerry becuase one of his staff was caught doing something wrong? No. I believe we are all acountable for our own actions but we can not nor should not be held accountable for the actions of others. So no shots comming from this republican. Besides Kerry is doing a fine job of mucking it up on his own ;o)

by mrbill-

Doesn't Murdoch own Fox News? If anyone was to call Fox News liberal they would be laughed out of the room.

by protiusx

Much like the rest of the democratic left you refuse to look at something at face value. You are so concerned with removing the dreaded GWB from office that you don't care who gets ellected. You are constantly trying to shift focus onto Bush rather than talk about what a great candidate you have.

by mrbill-

Good now if moveon.org would shut up we can get back to an honest campaign (ha ha). Kerry needs to step up to denounce them. These soft money ads need to stop.

by mrbill-

However he is NOT GWB! So I will probably vote for him. Dubya has done more harm to this country than good. I know many folks from overseas that consider him a joke and the US has lost standing among the Nations, that may not mean much to you but it does to me. Our economy has yet to recover, our National debt has shifted negitive thanks to him... Can Kerry do better? Don't know. He can't do worse!

by protiusx

Thanks for proving my point. Lets elect Momo the monkey. For crying out loud people. DO you hear what you are saying? Why on earth couldn't the democrats have found someone a bit better? The quality of Kerry's candidacy is laughable so rather than run a straight up campaign by debating the issues and discussing political issues we as a nation have fallen into the same ol' trap of flinging mud and whomever stays the cleanest wins. That's how Clinton stayed in office for 8 years. He was the teflon man. I wonder what our children will think if they ever see a debate where the candidates actually talk about substantive issues?

by itgirli

He probably can do worse. (the "can-do" people) Quite frankly I would rather trust a psycho for president at this point than either of the two.

by protiusx

I completly agree with you in that the national media is concerned with nothing but ratings. However Rush keeps smacking away at Lord William because of the double standard that exsists when the Democrats talk about the oposition. All I hear is Bush lied about this and Bush lied about that. The democrats know full well that people will not check the sources of the leftist lies and so will believe anything the DNC wants to say about GWB.
If anyone is uncertain as to what lying is it is when you said you didn't have sex with someone when you really did.

by thechas

It looks to me like the Democratic party is in the same situation the Republican party was in 4 years ago.

In 2000, it was all but a given that the US would elect a Republican as President. GWB was by NO means the best candidate. However, he captured the funding and discredited his rivals.

The fact that GWB is the first President to not win both the electoral college and the popular vote. Along with how the election was won. Shows how strong the desire was to step away from the antics of Bill Clinton.

I do think that the pundits got the mood of the Democratic primary voters right.
Of the candidates that were running, John Kerry has the best chance of beating GWB.

The real problem with the US Presidential election system is that a centrist candidate has no chance in the nomination process.

Chas

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