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What is the BEST.............................

By --Loki-- ·
What is the BEST (in your opinion) hardware configuration for a stable computer that will work just as well for home or office applications, and will support both Windoze and Linux OS's, as well as not being too cost-prohibitive to build/market to small businesses and home users?

Yes, I know that is a LOT of criteria to fill... lol... I am looking to find a good multipurpose configuration that I can use to order parts in some quantity and simplify configuration by being familiar with the hardware, rather than just buying whatever's new or hot at the moment, but that can also be upgraded for users who want a more custom setup...

I've been out of the computer building loop for about 2 years, so I'm not up to date on what the current best hardware is.... Thus my question....

Soooooooooooo... You tell me!

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Depends on the OS involved

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to What is the BEST......... ...

If they are 32 Bit or 64 Bit. For 32 Bit I would recommend something along the lines of an Intel 775 Socket M'Board and suitable CPU could start out with a Celeron and work up to a Dual Core with HTT.

For 64 Bit however you have to go with AMD as all the Nixes are written for the AMD architecture at the moment so they will work better.

However this is where things start to get nasty previously it was Intel who had different sockets for CPU's but now AMD has several currently on the go for different CPU's they start off with the 757 then the 939 Pin and then go to the AM2 and 940 & finally the F Socket. So you would have to look closely at what you want to offer here and chose accordingly. Though to be fair the AM2 is the newest one currently in use so that may be your better option for long term use though it will limit the available CPU's that you can use. Also when AMD finished their ATI buying they are talking about introducing a new socket called maybe the AM3 which will them put AMD on a level playing field with Intel and they will be providing both CPU and Chip Sets for the M'Boards as well as making their own.


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by OnTheRopes In reply to [b]Depends on the OS invo ...
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Just to be more Nit Picking

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Edited out

SUSE 10 and possibly Red Hat Enterprise are one of the few Destro's that have very good Intel Support. Mainly because they support these CPU's in Industry.

Most of the other Destro's where writing code for the then available to the Geek which involved AMD 64 Bit Architecture,


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by OnTheRopes In reply to Just to be more Nit Picki ...
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Yes .. Suse 10 is what I was thinking...

by --Loki-- In reply to Just to be more Nit Picki ...

I've used Suse for about 3 years now, on a variety of hardware, and I like the interface as well as the flexibility, and it is very user friendly, even for the technically challenged... I can't say I was thrilled with Red Hat, although it is touted as the best for business stuff, I think Suse is the best for what I'm trying to accomplish...

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I have to agree

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Yes .. Suse 10 is what I ...

I've used both Red Hat Enterprise and SUSE and I much prefer SUSE over RHE.

I will not even start on FC as I find it poor and lacking in most areas. Personally I think that SUSE currently is the best business application available for the desktop and while my personal favorite Nix will always be Debian it's not entirely satiable for the average end user who has little to no knowledge of how to use a computer. It's really much more for the Advanced User who you generally speaking wouldn't be targeting.

Sorry I can't help you out with All in 1 M'Boards as I never use them mainly because I need reliability and I don't cater to the lower end of the market. Just about every system that I build is for business where reliability is far more important than price. Though Price plays a part even here but generally speaking most business don't mind spending the extra money as it brings them greater Tax Breaks during the life of the computers.


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What is your price point?

by jmgarvin In reply to What is the BEST......... ...

I'd suggest:

AMD Semperon 3000+ w/ mobo
1gb RAM

Make sure to get a decent case and a big enough HDD (120mbs are pretty cheap).

Check or for good prices.

Good luck!

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re: price point

by --Loki-- In reply to What is your price point?

I plan on selling a basic system for about 500 with a linux OS, or 600 with Windoze... At least that is what I used to sell them for, but again, I still have to get up to date on current hardware prices...

That would be an all-in-one type motherboard, and a 17" crt monitor, then the price goes up if I added upgrades such as video or sound or a flat panel monitor...

Does that sound about right? Or am I priced too low/high? I did this for six years when I lived in Arizona, but like I mentioned, since moving to Georgia two years ago, I have been out of the loop, and am just starting to rebuild my business, soooooooooo...

Can you recommend a good motherboard that will play nice with both linux AND windoze? As far as all-in-one's go, I've had decent results playing around with e-machines and such on some of my friends systems, but my own linux systems have been all built from scratch instead of all-in-ones... And since linux is what I'm going to primarily offer, with windoze costing extra, I need to make sure that the hardware is supported, but not too high-priced for my target market, which is primarily home offices, small businesses, and home users who want a cheap internet/network ready system that will also accomplish office tasks, with minimum security and stability issues.

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by Jaqui In reply to re: price point

I have used most major brands of motherboard, from one end to the other with linux.
every motherboard company fully supports windows with drivers.

To offer linux systems, stick with hardware that has been on the market for a minimum of 6 months, so that the open source community has had an opportunity to develop drivers for the hardware.
by going with Intel, that isn't an issue, snce Intel actually creates linux drivers, open source ones at that, for their new hardware and chipsets. AMD has also started supporting linux with drivers, and has been supporting the open source world. AMd has not been in the business of hardware other than the cpus until now, so they have been the focus of the open source effort for drivers, since the AMD systems don't come with linux drivers. This will most likely change when AMD starts producing their own boards, then the open source community will be freed to do more bugfixing in the existing low level code base. They have been concentrating on newer hardware and critical bugs, leaving bugs with little impact alone until the time is available to fix.

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Select a Vendor

by willcomp In reply to What is the BEST......... ...

Since you are in the Atlanta area, I recommend you first identify local distributors and see what lines they carry. There's a significant savings for depot pickup versus shipping.

Some general recommendations for a budget PC:

Socket AM2 uATX mobo with nVidia GeForce 6100 chipset and a Sempron 64 2800+ CPU (about $110 total) or a Socket 775 uATX mobo with Intel 865 chipset and a 2.8 GHz Celeron D CPU (about $110 total).

Decent quality uATX case with power supply such as Apex or Foxconn (about $40.00).

DVD burner, floppy drive, 80 GB (minimum) HDD, 512 MB RAM.

With the small differential between combo drives (CD-RW/DVD ROM) and DVD burners, I just use the DVD burners. A DVD drive is recommended for installing Vista and it'll be here soon.

RAM is pricey now. Happens every year about this time. Should drop back in a month or so after pre-Christmas PCs are built.

May be hard to find a good supplier of inexpensive CRTs. Many smaller distributors now stock LCDs exclusively.

Also, Vista release may be a good time to push "Vista Capable" PCs. Aero Glass needs a decent video adapter and 1 GB RAM to run well. A CPU in the 3 GHz range (3000+ for AMD) will run Vista well.

I have Vista RC1 on a Sempron 2800+, 1 GB RAM, and a 128 MB FX5200 video card. Performance is decent.

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