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    What is your favourite fiction?

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    by neilb@uk ·

    I have a train journey to and from London every day and I can either stare out of the window, break out the laptop or I can read a book. I read fast and I’m always running out of things to read. I could use the journey “productively” by reading something educational but we are only two cups of tea into the day!

    One of the questions I always ask of friends and acquaintances and sometimes of near-strangers is “what’s your favourite book?” and down the years this has introduced me to good and bad but mostly good and some incredible stuff.

    I’m in the middle of a “sword and sorcery” series by George R.R. Martin (thanks, Lee) but the next ones not due out for months.

    I like almost anything – if its good – but I’m quite partial to good “hard” sci-fi and fantasy if it’s not too silly. I like series – the more the better if it’s good but they do need to have an end!

    “Classics” don’t work in the morning. I don’t like Dickens (heresy!) and Russian novels really need concentration though I did “read” War and Peace. I haven’t read much classic American except Hemingway and Steinbeck and I’d like some pointers, there.

    Australian and Canadian authors? I don’t know a thing about them.

    I’ve enjoyed the light British historical war novel series like Hornblower and Sharpe and I’d like to try some American equivalents.

    Some of my recommendations (which nearly all seem to be fantasy or sci-fi):

    Lord of the Rings – Tolkein of course
    Gormenghast – Mervyn Peake
    “Thomas Covenant” and “Gap” series – Stephen Donaldson
    Saga of the Exiles – Julian May
    Anything by Larry Niven
    Anything by Iain Banks (general fiction) or Iain M. Banks (same author, but writing sci-fi)

    OK, TR’ers. Where should I go next? I have an Amazon account and I’d like to use it.

    Thanks

    Neil

    p.s Oh, and I absolutely LOVE Terry Pratchett’s Discworld series

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    • #3322478

      God I could keep you on the train for ever

      by tony hopkinson ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Hard SF (Best I’ve ever read)
      The Mars Trilogy + Antartica & Martians (5 Books)
      Three favourite Authors
      Stephen Donaldson
      Chronicals Of Thomas Covenant (Trilogy)
      2nd Chronicals Of Thomas Covenant (Trilogy)
      Mordants Need (Two, and brilluant)
      The Gap series (first one of five is a little strange, but after that it just gets better and better)

      CJ Cherryh’s early merchanter universe novels and the compact series Chanur) are very good.
      (something like twenty altogether)

      For straight fantasy. Steven Erikson’s Mazalan Books of the Fallen are lierally without peer.

      Peter F Hamilton’s NightsDawn Trilogy should keep you happy.
      Greg Bear’s Eon/Eternity.

      I’m stopping now, if you like any of these I can direct you to others, meanwhile I’m waiting to find out what happens to Tyrion in the next installment of a Song Of Ice & Fire.

      • #3322464

        The THIRD Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to God I could keep you on the train for ever

        are being written. Book 1 is out already. I don’t have it, though, ‘cos with really good series, I try to wait until the last before I can buy them all else I always end if with the first in paperback and the last in hardback. I made that mistake with the Gap series! I agree about each “Gap” getting better but they also get thicker!

        Peter Hamilton is one of my favourites but I didn’t know if he’s published in the USA so he wasn’t in my list. Dumb, really as the purpose of this thread is to get just that type of recommendation. Pandora’s star was just TOO good – I read it within two days of its publication (hardback) – and the finish isn’t due for ages and I’m twitching! That’s why I can’t buy the Thomas Covenant book.

        Bear I’ve read and like.

        Cherryh I will look into today (thought it was a typo! LOL) and Erikson. I’ll order the first of the Mars Trilogy and one from each of the other two from Amazon and if any are not good then it won’t be the first book I’ve pushed through the letterbox of the Oxfam shop half read.

        Thanks, Tony.

        Neil

        Not only Tyrion! FINISH THE BLOODY SERIES!

        • #3322456

          George is barking mad

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to The THIRD Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

          Daresay Tyrion’s going to die horrible death in chapter one. The rate he kill’s his characters off is unreal.
          I know what you mean about waiting. I read Mordant’s Need in one sitting, and was almost in physical pain, when I realised how long I’d have to wait for the second installment.
          The Erikson one I picked up because the recommendation was from Stephen Donaldson.
          I’m a bibliomaniac, it runs in the family, The second hand book sellers at the local market rub their hands with glee every time I get near the place.
          Pandora’s star was good, much better than that Fallen Dragon Crap.
          Oh nearly forgot, Cherryh’s Naked Sun Trilogy, her aliens are just brilliant, especially when some of them are human which is the essence or the merchanter universe.

      • #3090702

        Here are my suggestions

        by rpj101 ·

        In reply to God I could keep you on the train for ever

        1. Orson Scott Card
        -Enders Game
        -Speaker for the Dead
        -Xenocide
        -The Seventh Son
        -Red Prophet
        -Prentice Alvin
        2. Frank Herbert
        -Dune — and all of the rest of this series.
        3. Terry Brooks
        -The Sword of Shannara — and all of the rest of this endless series.
        4. David Brin
        -Sundiver
        -Startide Rising

    • #3322459

      Reality Books

      by roger99a ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      “The Adventures of Captain Aplonso De Contreras” is one of the most entertaining books I have ever read. It’s the autobiography of a 16th century Spanish Captain, but it reads like you’re hearing the story on the pub.

      • #3090568

        Australian fantasy

        by p.castle ·

        In reply to Reality Books

        This may have been mentioned already, but being an Aussie you don’t get many local fantasy authors. The best i’ve seen (and am currently just finishing) is the Axis Trilogy (Battleaxe, Enchanter, Star Man) by Sara Douglass. It’s a littel different from your classic elves, dwarves, gnomes, etc. Definitely a must read if you particularly want something Australian.

      • #3090567

        Australian fantasy

        by p.castle ·

        In reply to Reality Books

        This may have been mentioned already, but being an Aussie you don’t get many local fantasy authors. The best i’ve seen (and am currently just finishing) is the Axis Trilogy (Battleaxe, Enchanter, Star Man) by Sara Douglass. It’s a littel different from your classic elves, dwarves, gnomes, etc. Definitely a must read if you particularly want something Australian.

    • #3322444

      hmm

      by jaqui ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      light, humourous

      Piers Anthony:
      Fantasy
      Xanth Series ( 10 books )
      Sci-fi
      ox
      omnivore
      mute
      cthon / cthor ( 2 books series )

      sci-fi + Fantasy combnied
      blue adept series 5 or 6 books

      Bujold, Lois McMaster
      spirit ring
      Miles Vorkosigan adventure series, 8 books, space opera/comedy. often brings tears to the eyes from laughing so hard.

      Military Sci-Fi
      David Drake*
      Hammers Slammers Series
      the General Series

      Joe Haldeman
      hard core sci-fi, military

      Keith Laumer
      comic space opera
      Reteif series
      bolos Series & anthologies

      Anne McCaffery
      Dragon Riders of Pern series
      Darkover Series ( ongoing set of stand alone works )

      could keep going for a while here.

      • #3322440

        Thanks

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to hmm

        Read Piers Anthony. Read most anything that Anne McCaffrey has written. I’ve added “Spirit Ring” and “Miles Errant” to my Amazon order. I’ll work through the others. Haven’t read Drake, Haldeman or Laumer – at least I haven’t remembered them.

        This is working! I have already reached Free Delivery level,

        Thanks,

        Neil

        • #3342374

          Haldeman

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to Thanks

          Of that list, I’d place Haldeman’s [u]The Forever War[/u] at the top of the queue, without question. Particularly if you like hard sci-fi, since the rest of that stuff is “fluff” sci-fi in comparison, for the most part. There are a couple of sequels to it that I intend to read at some point, but I haven’t gotten ’round to it yet.

      • #3322420

        Seen Haldeman, never read him though

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to hmm

        The Xanth series was sort of amusing, but now there’s 26 of them which I think is taking the p1ss, like Mr Pratchett.
        His Battle Circle Trilogy was OK though

        Zimmer Bradley’s Darkover Series is very good. Mcaffery, I used to enjoy but I find her a bit too light now.

        Been reading David Weber’s Honor Harrington books just recently, they are light, but well plotted military sf

        • #3322419

          If you were Terry Pratchett

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Seen Haldeman, never read him though

          and making all that money, would you change the genre?

          I agree about McC. Now she’s co-authoring with her kids!

          I’m in the middle of composing an Amazon order from suggestions and I’d already added a Darkover Omnibus sugested by a friend who I was chatting to about starting this thread.

          Your suggestions are now lodged in the back of my mind for the next time I get down to the local Oxfam shop’s book stall.

          Neil

        • #3322364

          Probably not

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to If you were Terry Pratchett

          and I enjoy them up to a point, but they’ve sort of got a little predictable now.
          Besides his publisher would have him assasinated, if he even suggested it.

        • #3322375

          honor series

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Seen Haldeman, never read him though

          is pretty good.

          baen books has a number of books available free in electronic format.

          http://www.baen.com/library/

        • #3322363

          That’s where I got most of them

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to honor series

          from. Where I live the best bookshop, stock Pratchett and all the Star Trek and Buffy crap. I’d rather read an ms uk publicity article than the latter two.

        • #3322316

          Good link – Thanks

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to honor series

          Now, if I open the laptop to read a book, can I resist the urge to read my email, fine-tune that report?

          Neil

      • #3242720

        Dragon riders

        by jdclyde ·

        In reply to hmm

        My boys LOVE that series. At 13 and they still like the old man to read to them. Will wonders never cease?

        They call my dragon tattoo “Ruth”, which is their favorite dragon.

    • #3322417

      Favorite Fiction

      by craig herberg ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Aside from “I’ve got a quick question,” among my favorite fiction is

      The Horse Whisperer
      by Nicholas Evans
      ISBN: 0440222656

      Craig Herberg

      • #3322416

        Thanks

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Favorite Fiction

        It’s on my Amazon order. I’m closing the order on ten books and I’m up to six.

        Neil

        Do you get annoyed with “Can I ask you a question?” – they just did!

        And “Can I disturb you for a second?” – they just have!

        • #3322338

          Re: Thanks

          by craig herberg ·

          In reply to Thanks

          You’re welcome, and yes I do find it annoying. I’m sure they make more sales with it, though.

          Enjoy your reading.

          Craig Herberg

    • #3322402

      I envy you for your train time.

      by deepsand ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The one thing I have all too little time for is “recreational” reading; I really do miss it.

      Since your reading likes seem to parallel mine in many respects, and therefore assuming that you’ve already checked out the plethora of great science fiction writers, perhaps you might wish to try something in an existential vein.

      If you’ve not yet read any of his works, I might suggest Hermann Hesse. The link below will provide with a brief biography & a partial list of his works, all of which are available in English translations.

      His crowning achievement, “Das Glasperlenspiel”, is entitled, in English versions, as “The Glass Bead Game” or, alternatively, “Magister Ludi.”

      http://www.online-literature.com/hesse/

      • #3322399

        Siddhartha

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to I envy you for your train time.

        I read Siddhartha by Hesse back when I was a student (mumble) years ago. I don’t remember too much about it except that it was brilliant. I might just revisit it.

        Thanks

        Neil

        • #3322387

          Ah, those halcyon student years.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Siddhartha

          Since you seem to have been well impressed with “Siddhartha,” by all means read “Damien”, “Steppenwolf” & “The Glass Bead Game.”

          And, how about Hunter S. Thompson?

        • #3322382

          I re-read “Fear and Loathing”

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Ah, those halcyon student years.

          when he died recently. That’s the only one I’ve read so I may have a look at some others. What else is good?

        • #3322380

          His writings while on the campaign trails, …

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to I re-read “Fear and Loathing”

          while not fictional, oft times read as though they were; try “Fear & Loathing on the Campaign Trail ’72”.

          “The Rum Diary” is on my long list of books still to be read.

          Addendum re. Hesse :

          http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/hhesse.htm

    • #3322392

      GK Chesterton

      by fonken monken uk ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I would highly recommend some GK Chesteron, particularly The Club of Queer Trades, but the Father Brown stuff is his most known and regarded.

      Father Brown when written was seen as an antidote to Conan Doyles more caustic Sherlock Holmes and has a nice edge of old English charm about it. Give it a go.

      • #3322372

        Jean M. Auel

        by cuteelf ·

        In reply to GK Chesterton

        Big fat long books combining history, anthro, and Neanderthals :). Learned a lot about herbal usage too.
        Harry Potter, blast it!
        Hmm.

        Amanda Quick for some interesting romance 🙂

        Now I want to go to the bookstore and just park it for awhile.

        • #3322365

          Clan Of Cave Bear et al

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Jean M. Auel

          You won’t find many blokes will a Mills & Boone on hand though.
          If you want non SF.
          Len Deighton is always a good read, James Clavell, Proper Alastair Maclean, Harris’s Fatherland.
          Some of the classics , like Coetzee’s Life & Times Of Michael K or Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mocking Bird, will make you look well read.
          Solzenitsyn’s A day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, is the only book I was ever given in school, that meant anything to me.

      • #3250719

        More Chesterton

        by bobartner – techrepublic ·

        In reply to GK Chesterton

        If you’re going to read Chesterton (and shouldn’t everyone?), don’t forget

        The Man Who Was Thursday
        The Napoleon of Nottingham Hill

        Bob Artner

    • #3322341

      Really Mr. Conductor I have a Ticket!

      by bfilmfan ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      After reading through everyone else’s excellent lists, I would like to submit my collection of material you must read. I would like to note that I have a number of graphic novels on my list, which I feel are one of the most unappreciated forms of literature, outside of Japan and France.

      Harlan Ellison:

      Dangerous Visions: 35th Anniversary Edition

      Ellison has become a fringe player in the science fiction writer?s arena, but he is no doubt one of the single greatest masters of the short story ever born.

      Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale:

      Batman: The Long Halloween and Batman: Dark Victory

      These 2 graphic novels are absolutely the greatest Batman stories ever told! Batman versus gangsters with guest villain appearances by Joker, Two-Face, Mad Hatter and the Scarecrow.

      Grant Morrison:

      Batman: Arkham Asylum

      This is the single darkest Batman story ever told. Batman must confront his classic enemies in Arkham Asylum, which is much more than just a place to warehouse madmen…

      Alan Moore:

      Watchmen

      If you only read one graphic novel in your entire life, it absolutely must be this one. This is the tale of human beings who must live with their decisions. I still re-read this novel at least once every 6 months and discover some nuance that I missed the last time.

      V for Vendetta

      One of his earliest works that will continue to haunt you long after you have read it. The dark story of an anti-hero that opposes a fascist government in London.

      From Hell

      Jack (the Ripper) has been a very, very naughty boy and the bobbies are after him!

      The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

      Fictional characters that ban together to oppose evil and injustice. The graphic novels were MUCH better than the film.

      Batman: The Dark Knight Returns

      Batman got old. Batman got cranky! Batman takes out the real villains!

      Neil Gaiman:

      The Sandman series

      If you have time to read an entire series of graphic novels, it must be this one.

      American Gods

      What happened to Shadow after he gets out of prison early because his wife died in a car accident and he met Wednesday on a flight…

      Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child:

      Relic is a great starting book. Most of their books are set in the same universe and cross-reference each other.

      John Steakly:

      Armor

      One of the best novels I have ever read for conveying the experiences of a combat infantryman. The story revolves around Felix and his first combat drop on a planet loaded with very unfriendly aliens.

      Harry Turtledove:

      The Great War Series

      The Confederacy wins the Civil War and the world becomes a very different place indeed. Turtledove is the absolute reigning master of counterfactual history novels.

      J. Michael Straczynski:

      Delicate Creatures

      A very grim look at fairy tales?.

      Midnight Nation

      Detective David Gray of the LAPD has his soul stolen. He takes a journey and has to answer the question, ?What would do to regain your soul??

      Simon R Green:

      The Nightside Series

      Hidden deep in the heart of London is a place where it is always 3 AM. John Taylor is a low-rent private detective that was born in the Nightside. He has a special ability to ?find,? things, people, places, whatever you are seeking. He escaped the Nightside, but eventually returns. Combine Sam Spade, a liberal dose of crazed mythology, eccentric villans, and whole city full of unique and fascinating characters for one of the most original creations in fantasy. Highly recommended!

      Roger Zelany:

      A Night in the Lonesome October

      Jack the Ripper (hero) fights Lovecraftian horrors. And the whole story is narrated by his dog. You have to read this one to believe it!

      F. Paul Wilson

      The Keep

      German army comes to castle. German soldier takes weird-looking cross from wall. All hell breaks loose. One of the few ?I sure as hell didn?t see THAT coming? books in my list. This book is part of The Adversary series, but I still think it is one of his best works.

      The Repairman Jack series

      Jack doesn?t exist. No Social Security card. No driver?s license. No existence in any computer system. No birth certificate. Jack earns living ?fixing? things. This series of books is one of my favorites.

      Thomas Tryon:

      The Other

      The story of twin boys, one born one minute to midnight and the other, one minute after. Although this book is over 30 years old, it is one of the most realistic horror novels I have ever read.

      Robert McCammon:

      It should be noted that this author has stopped publishing in the horror genera and his really horrid experiences caused him to have a serious case of writer?s block for 6 years.

      The Wolf?s Hour

      One Russian werewolf working for the British versus Nazi Germany. This book is one of the wildest rides ever by a history professor from Alabama! Must read!

      Stinger

      An alien lands in a small, dusty Texas backwater town. Another alien bounty hunter shows up in pursuit. Humans in the middle just don?t do well at all! Highly recommended.

      Poppy Z Brite:

      Lost Souls

      A twisted tale of modern day vampires who are much darker than Mrs. Rice?s creations.

      Joe R Lansdale:

      Dead in the West

      Reverend Jebediah Mercer, versus zombies unleashed by an unjustly lynched Indian medicine man. I swear that Texas heat done fried this author?s mind, but the results are amazing as he combines gross out scenes with belly-splitting humor and doesn?t miss a beat.

      Everything this guy writes is definitely right out of left-field, but always an interesting read.

      John Connolly:

      The Charlie ?Bird? Parker series led off by Every Dead Thing:

      Charlie ?Bird? Parker is a cop. He is also a drunk. While he is getting drunk out of his mind at the neighborhood bar, his wife and child are murdered by a serial killer named ?The Traveling Man.? Charlie loses his mind and his job to guilt fueled by alcoholism. Charlie is committed to a hospital and is de-toxed. When he gets out, he goes after ?The Traveling Man.? Oh did I mention that Charlie ?sees? the victim?s ghosts? Is it real? Is he hallucinating? I ain?t tellin?! Later in the series, he is joined by his sometimes assistants a gay serial killer couple named Louis and Angel, as well as a new love interest, who happens to be a doctor. The whole series is best described as ?compulsively readable.?

      On a sad note, author Andre Norton?s passing was noted today. If you haven?t read her Witch World series, you should.

      And on another note, has anyone ever wondered why Paul Saberhagen, who created the wonderful Beserker series of novels and stories didn?t just sue the holy living daylights out of Battlestar Galactica?

      So you?ve got at least 6 months of reading there ahead of you with my list. Enjoy!

      • #3322264

        So far

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Really Mr. Conductor I have a Ticket!

        I’ve added Watchmen and Every Dead Thing to my Amazon (second) order. I’m not a horror or crime fan (read most of Patricia Cornwell’s Kay Scarpetta stuff) but I’ll try most stuff on someone’s recommendation. Graphic novels are something new to me – I don’t think that they’re quite such a well-known genre this side of the Atlantic.

        New stuff. That’s the point of this thread. I hope others are getting some good reads out of it as well.

        Neil

        Now I’m just waiting for the postman. The first order should arrive in time for Easter.

        • #3090693

          Clever Sci-fi / Fantasy

          by cindypsych ·

          In reply to So far

          If you like Terry Pratchett you ought to try “To Say Nothing of the Dog” and other books from Connie Willis. Laugh out loud, truly clever alternative history / sci fi.

          Did you mention Douglas Adams? It may be obvious, but if you haven’t yet you must read his stuff. My personal favorite is “Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency”. I love that skewed view of the universe. And everyone loves the “Hitchhiker’s Guide…” series.

          For something different try Anne Bishop’s “Daughter of the Blood” and the rest of “The Black Jewels Trilogy”. It was MUCH better written than I thought it would be and completely hooked me. Clever and original fantasy.

          Another brilliant but more modern fantasy is “American Gods” by Neil Gaiman. I love his twist on things.

          If you want a really good, BIG book (I love big books sometimes for my 1 1/2 hour + each way commute on the train to NYC) try “Cryptonomicon” by Neal Stephenson. Bounces back and forth between today and WWII, between America, England, Australia, and the Phillipines, and is about code-breaking, the first computers, gold, and today’s economy. Fascinating and trippy and fun – but a big bite to chew.

          – CindyPsych

        • #3090692

          One more!

          by cindypsych ·

          In reply to So far

          Oh, and I forgot to add Tad Williams. Anything, really, but I LOVE the “Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn” books.
          – CindyPsych

      • #3329021

        On the subject of graphic fiction

        by Jay Garmon ·

        In reply to Really Mr. Conductor I have a Ticket!

        “Watchmen…If you only read one graphic novel in your entire life, it absolutely must be this one. This is the tale of human beings who must live with their decisions. I still re-read this novel at least once every 6 months and discover some nuance that I missed the last time”
        –BFilmFan

        I couldn’t agree more, and though many lament that graphic fiction peaked with the publication of Watchmen, there are some great things still being written in the medium.

        Such as…


        “Transmetropolitan” by Warren Ellis

        A tale of the future told from a Hunter S. Thompson analogue’s point of view. A great glimpse at a world where technology has made almost anything possible, but where humans persist in remaining the petty, poetic, selfish and sublime creatures we’ve always been. A little pricey to get all ten volumes (plus a few ancillary vignette pieces), but worth the investment.

        “Y the Last Man” by Bryan K. Vaughan

        Maybe the best ongoing series in graphic fiction today, chronicling the only man to survive an unexplained plague that wiped out every male creature of every species on earth. Incredibly intelligent and layered work that isn’t afraid to take chances. A little risque in places, but never gratuitously so. Hey, you can’t discuss the death of a whole gender without tripping over some social boundaries! There are four collected volumes in print so far, with a fifth due in June.

        “Ex Machina” by Bryan K Vaughan

        If “Y” isn’t your bag, techno-political junkies will probably get a big kick out of “ExMac.” The world’s one and only superhero–who was forced into returement by law enforcement because, hey, vigilantism will actually get you locked up in the real world–is inspired by 9/11 to do some “real good” and successfully runs for mayor of New York. And wins. Then the real chaos ensues. Real politics, realistic sci-fi, solid plotting, great reads.

        “100 Bullets” by Brian Azzarello

        A noir tale with conspiracy undertones, the plot conceit goes something like this: you’ve been wronged and you know it; when you’re at your worst, a stranger appears and offers you a briefcase; inside is irrefutable proof of who wronged you, a handgun with 100 bullets, and an ironclad guarantee that law enforcement will turn a blind eye on you for the next 72 hours. Only too late do the “beneficiaries” realize they are pawns in a larger game. There are seven volumes in print, with an eighth due in July. Dark tale with incredible dialogue.

        “300” by Frank Miller

        Stylized and fictionalized retelling of the Battle of Thermopylae, where 300 Spartans under the command of King Leonidas held off Persian Emperor Xerxes’ 100,000-strong invasion force. Compelling, brutal, and richly detailed. A great gift for history buffs, but the “widescreen” hardcover is a little unweildy for most bookshelves.

        I could go on, but those are the high spots. If you want to talk straight superhero comics, I could go for days, but those aren’t everyone’s cup of tea.

        For straight prose sci-fi, I’m beginning to catch the bug for Charles Stross, but he’s a little idea-dense for most people. Worth a try if you want to be on the bleeding edge of technoculture theory.

        Any questions?

        –Jay

        • #3329002

          I’ll get on them

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to On the subject of graphic fiction

          once I’ve read the first ten. I’ve already blown ?70 at Amazon since this thread started a couple of days ago!

          Watchmen is on the list.

          Charles Stross? Dunno but I’ll have a look.

          Thanks

          Neil

        • #3342582

          Good catch!

          by bfilmfan ·

          In reply to On the subject of graphic fiction

          I should have thought of those, but just overlooked them when grabbing titles off the bookshelf here.

          And 100 Bullets release is a run to the comics shop and hope they unlock the door even if I have my face pressed against the window while I am drooling like Beethoven…

          I should have also included Kingdom Come, which is the only Superman story that I ever really thought showed what made Clark Kent a real hero.

        • #3342464

          Kingdom Come is seminal Superman

          by Jay Garmon ·

          In reply to Good catch!

          I’m a big Mark Waid fan, back to his days on The Flash. His current (but soon to end) run on Fantastic Four has been outstanding, and his new take on Legion of Superheroes really has me jazzed.

          Kingdom Come is undoubtedly his magnum opus, but he’s still pumping out good stuff. You might want to take a gander at his Superman: Birthright miniseries when comes out in a collected volume. It does a nice job of explaining why Clark Kent became Superman.

        • #3342452

          Well I must be missing the plot

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to On the subject of graphic fiction

          Each to his own, won’t touch the stuff myself.

          Time for a cup of Earl Grey, I think.

        • #3102665

          .

          by leee ·

          In reply to On the subject of graphic fiction

          .

    • #3322291

      Try These

      by joetechsupport ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Dan Simmons Quadrillogy:
      Hyperion
      Fall of Hyperion
      Endymion
      Rise of Endymion

      I’m also a fan of some of Clive Barkers’ fantasy-magic-horror-work. I’d recommend Weaveworld, Everville to start and then Sacrament, if you are still interested there are titles on the covers. Imagininative original and interesting with a quirk or two. A friend of mine raised in England told me this quirk was particular to some English writers, but I haven’t noticed. I just haven’t seen anyone write about that particular topic, much less repeatedly. But I read more Non than fiction, so maybe I’ve got a skewed data set.

      • #3322287

        I have added “The Hyperion Omnibus”

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Try These

        to my amazon order.

        I’ll check out Clive Barker later as Weaveworld is on 3-5 weeks delivery.

        Thanks

        Neil

        • #3322277

          Weave World

          by bfilmfan ·

          In reply to I have added “The Hyperion Omnibus”

          Personally, I think that is one of Barker’s best books where he weaves fantasy and horror into a seamless combination.

          And I won’t spoil it for you, but I damn well hope the Surgeons never give me a visit!

        • #3250941

          surgeons

          by joetechsupport ·

          In reply to Weave World

          Are you thinking of “The Coenobites” and the enigmatic “Engineer” who “will be called if the moment warrants it” from “The Hellbound Heart” and the HellRaiser movies?

          They’d be handy at with the Thanksgiving Turkey, just don’t ask for seconds, sweatbreads or blood sausage. “Hmmm, Kirstie! No more Turkey! Such a shame! Time to play!”

        • #3250840

          The Surgeons

          by bfilmfan ·

          In reply to surgeons

          Although I believe they are similiar creations as being from some other dimension as as the Cenobytes. If I recall correctly, Weaveworld was his second novel, so it appears that he introduced the Surgeons as another extra-dimensional set of beings with a very, very nasty sense of purpose.

        • #3250879

          Hyperion

          by joetechsupport ·

          In reply to I have added “The Hyperion Omnibus”

          Here’s hoping you like it as much as my buddies did and it keeps you interested to read the Endymion Omnibus. When I saw the name at first I thought you were using a colloquialization to say you bought the whole set. I hadn’t heard of the Omnibi before, they must be relatively new.

      • #3322278

        Dan Simmons

        by bfilmfan ·

        In reply to Try These

        You should also pick up Carrion Comfort, which was originally in Omni as a short story. One of the most original views of “vampires” I can recall reading.

      • #3322265

        Before you read Everville

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to Try These

        you need the it’s forerunner, The Great & Secret Show. Imajica is a good read as well.
        Not as big a fan as some but if you like that sort of thing, Stephen King’s The Stand is also a good read. His Dark Tower series started out well, but the lost it big time, in his (or his publisher’s ?) hurry to complete it.

        Other option’s Might Be Raymond E Feist’s Magician and onwards. You’ve got to check out Orson Scott Card’s Ender series, particularly the first four.

        • #3329309

          Thanks, Tony

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Before you read Everville

          I’ll bear that in mind.

          As for Dark Tower. I just sort of stopped reading it.

          I was very fond of Raymond E Feist a few years ago (“Magician” and “Empire” trilogies) but the Midkemia stuff never looked like ending – happy or otherwise – so I sort of stopped reading his stuff too.

          A recommendation from me: Robin Hobb and the “Farseer”, “Tawny Man” and “Liveship” interlocking trilogies.

          Neil

        • #3329182

          Read Farseer & liveship

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Thanks, Tony

          may pick up tawny man, when I get a spare moment.

    • #3322257

      Suggestions

      by salamander ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Books that are on my coffee table, in anticipation of being read, already in the midst, or are dog-eared and finished:

      -I highly recommend C.S. Friedman’s Coldfire Trilogy: “Black Sun Rising,” “When True Night Falls,” and “Crown of Shadows.” Best fantasy series I’ve ever read. Unfortunately, the author has said that there will never be any more after these three.

      -“Fudoki,” by Kij Johnson…The story of a shapeshifting tortoiseshell cat in Japan’s feudal era, sometime woman warrior, philosopher, and reluctant confidante to nobility.

      -“The Cat Inside,” by William S. Burroughs. Incoherent at moments, but it does have some grains of good stuff buried in it that were probably written when Burroughs was sober.

      -“The Tao of Jung,” by David Rosen. For Jungians interested in another angle to Jung’s work.

      -“Saint Fire,” by Tanith Lee. Alchemical interpretation of the Joan of Arc legend.

      -Barbara Hambly also did a pair of books: “Those who Hunt the Night,” and “Traveling with the Dead.” They deal with spies and vampires in 19th-century Europe. “Traveling with the Dead” is the superior work, placed in Turkey, with plenty of historical color.

      • #3329306

        Black Sun Rising

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Suggestions

        is on my order.

        I’ve got to stop for the moment as I’ve spent around ?60 since I started this thread and I suspect (hope) that there’s lots more to come.

        I think I’m sticking to fiction as I suspect that reading “The Tao of Jung” on the train will get me some sideways looks! The rest of the carriage regulars used to think that I was mad as I always read at least two pages upside down (the book, not me) as a mental exercise.

        Tell you, it stops people reading over your shoulder.

        Neil

        • #3329305

          Sideways looks

          by salamander ·

          In reply to Black Sun Rising

          Ah, that sort of thing keeps the other commuters on their toes!

          “Black Sun Rising” is excellent. Hope you enjoy.

        • #3329150

          Black Sun Rising

          by bfilmfan ·

          In reply to Sideways looks

          Yes that was one of the better sword and sorcery tales. I should have put Leiber’s Ffahrd and Mouser series on my list, who are the definite role models for all the current scally-wag anti-heroes popular these days.

        • #3342462

          indeed

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to Sideways looks

          I seem to remember enjoying the book [u]Black Sun Rising[/u]. Granted, my memory of it is spotty at best, and more than a decade old, but I tend to be able to recall whether or not I liked a book if I remember reading it at all.

          Some of my favorite swords and sorcery fiction, now that I think about it, is the few David Gemmell books I’ve read. I think there have been two, from his Drenai series. His books, in US publication, have suffered from [b]horrible[/b] cover artwork generally, but the writing is superb. [u]The King Beyond the Gate[/u] in particular sticks in my mind as one of the best books of the genre that I’ve ever read. You won’t see the standard Tolkein ripoff lineup of elements, like elves and dwarves, in it: just gritty, intriguing plotline with gritty, intriguing characters. Anyone with a penchant for a good antihero will likely love Tanaka Khan form [u]The King Beyond the Gate[/u], who deposes a tyrant with a nomad horde then goes on to lay waste to the entire countryside, if I recall the plot correctly. Great stuff. Go read it. It even prompts some great ruminations about the nature of things like heroism and legend, in a manner that wakes up the half-awake brain without taxing it.

          Also: David Niall Wilson wrote a trilogy of books (the Grail’s Covenant series) for White Wolf, based on their Vampire: the Dark Ages roleplaying game, that transcends the usual fandom pap you’ll see written about events in RPG settings. It’s really and truly good writing in its own right, about a medieval vampire obsessed with finding the Holy Grail. The wrap-up at the end of the third book I found a little disappointing and unsatisfying, but the series leading up to that point was thoroughly engaging, and I think it’s more than worth reading despite the weak ending (which I’m sure was forced on Wilson because of a necessary tie-in with another series of books by another, competent though less talented, writer). Considering my bigotry as regards RPG-fandom novels (bucking the trend, I find that Weiss and Hickman really utterly suck arse as writers of fiction), my approval of Wilson’s writing should stand out as a rare thing indeed. Whether you have any positive regard for my taste in fiction is another matter.

        • #3342439

          I got introduced to Gemmell earlier last year

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to indeed

          by asking a colleague “what’s your favorite books” and I buzzed through almost everything he’d written including “King beyond the Gate”. That and George Martin (Song of Ice and Fire series is my favourite recent reading) were the recent recommendations that prompted this thread! Seems to be working, as well.

          “Whether you have any positive regard for my taste in fiction is another matter.” Well, we agree on Gemmell.

          🙂

          Neil

        • #3342429

          Ah . . .

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to I got introduced to Gemmell earlier last year

          Well, good then. It looks like we agree on that. Maybe I should pick up Martin’s works now (and some more Gemmell).

        • #3342397

          Definitely George.

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Ah . . .

          David Gemmel with attitude. Legend & Waylander are still two of my favourites, as for Weis & Hickman, substandard toilet paper.

    • #3329297

      I just read

      by maecuff ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell. Can’t remember the author. It’s more along the lines of fantasy rather than sci-fi, but still, very entertaining.

    • #3329207

      Fictional works

      by montgomery gator ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Judging by your avatar, it seems one of your favorite fiction writers is Charles Darwin. 🙂

      (Edit: Neil’s avatar at the time this was originally written was a picture of Charles Darwin)

      • #3329202

        LOL

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Fictional works

        or I would be if I wasn’t about to creep up and slap you round the head with “Origin of Species”.

        Must change the avatar – just did it for the Evolution thread and I’ve done with that.

        • #3328993

          ippirate will be so disappointed to hear that.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to LOL

        • #3342534

          I think I’m done with him

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to ippirate will be so disappointed to hear that.

          on that subject. We weren’t going anywhere and it was taking so long to scroll down to shout at him…

          I see he’s still miffed at you, though

          😀

          Neil

        • #3342277

          Yeah; seems like I’m his hobby du jour.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to I think I’m done with him

          And, apparently he does’nt understand the difference between an insult & a curse.

        • #3342469

          current avatar?

          by montgomery gator ·

          In reply to LOL

          Neil: who is that in your current avatar?

          (also, getting hit by “Origin of the Species” would certainly hurt, it is one rather large tome. I read it when I was much younger (in high school), and although I do recognize Darwin’s genius (even if I do not completely agree), I found it rather tedious. “Voyage of the Beagle” based on Darwin’s diary on his voyage, was a much easier read.

        • #3342426

          Hilary Briss, butcher of Royston Vasey

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to current avatar?

          A character from my favourite recent TV series “League of Gentlemen”. Dozens of extremely strange characters played by three very talented actor/writers (and one more who only writes).

          Ask for the “special stuff” – but not for women!

          Check out: http://www.lunacynet.com/league

          Neil

          p.s. Hilary is quite “normal” compared to some!

    • #3329203

      Works of Fiction (serious this time)

      by montgomery gator ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Larry Niven is one of my favorite authors, too. Excellent short stories, and “Ringworld” is a classic.

      Others I would add:
      Douglas Adams – Hitchiker series, Dirk Gently series, although classified as fiction, his satire rings true in many places.
      H. G. Wells – classic Sci-Fi author
      Bram Stoker – I have only read “Dracula”, but it is a classic good vs. evil story, with a Christian slant.
      Robert Asprin – the Myth series
      Piers Anthony – Xanth, mentioned by others, but I want to reinforce their recommendations
      Jonathan Swift – “Gulliver’s Travels” is excellent satire, along with his short essay “A Modest Proposal”.
      Issac Asimov – The Foundation series

      • #3329178

        “Foundation” is an excellent example of when to stop writing

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Works of Fiction (serious this time)

        I do wish that Asimov had stopped at the three originals. It got a bit silly with working in “I Robot” and Gaea.

        Asprin I’ve not read. I will tuck that one away for later ‘cos I’ve already blown the book budget!

        Thanks

        Neil

        p.s. If I change my avatar some will wonder what your earlier post was about!

        • #3328996

          Finally, someone who agrees with me re. “Foundation.”

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to “Foundation” is an excellent example of when to stop writing

          It drove me crazy, to the point where I wished that I had never started the series.

          It also made me wonder if perhaps Asimov had ceased writing, and the series continued by a ghost writer.

        • #3342458

          Well I thought the first ones

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Finally, someone who agrees with me re. “Foundation.”

          were poor, so I never bothered with the second. As to your last conjecture, they are usually more honest about that sort of thing.
          There are plenty of writers who obviously run out of ideas though. Goodkind’s Sword Of truth series, King’s Dark Tower. Mr Clake after 2010. Some have never had a good idea. Ever run into to that twonk who continued Dune, I’d rip his arms off. Like putting a mustache on the Monal Lisa that was.
          Mr Jordan’s Wheel Of Time series is getting close as well.
          Pulishing deadlines perhaps.
          Did you try Stan Nicholl’s Orc series, Started out very well and squelched into verbal incontinence by the last one.
          Disappointing, will be along time, if ever, I read anything of his again.

        • #3342442

          Prequels to Dune

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Well I thought the first ones

          what ARE they all about. Who cares?

          Foundation was about the third sci-fi book I ever read so I have a soft spot for it despite not really being an Asimov fan. The second trilogy would best serve for loo-paper.

          In my first post I did say that a series must have an ending in sight else I probably won’t start – except for Pratchett, of course, as so far I regard nearly all of his stuff as perfect train- or toilet-reading. I’ve no doubt he’ll lose it one day and I’ve never yet gone as far as buying a hardback TP.

          Interesting to see the graphic novel and similar stuff recommendations coming through. Not an English genre and buying Watchmen has screwed up my Amazon order (1 to 2 weeks!)

          Neil

        • #3342395

          Well they were meant expain how the

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Prequels to Dune

          Duniverse came about, however they in order to do this he shattered the timeline and introduced ideas from Franks’ future universe before they occurred presumably because the author didn’t have any of his own.
          Try Eyes of Heisenberg, bit dated but might appeal, Oh and his best novel ever in my opinion Helstrom’s Hive, though you might find that a little hard to get hold of.

        • #3342274

          All entertainment media fall victim to the desire to perform forever.

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Well they were meant expain how the

          Witness the never ending parade of movie & TV sequels and prequels, aging actors & musicans haltingly parading about the stage, etc..

          The promoters’ & publishers’ lust for another dollar preys on the entertainers’ need to linger in the spotlight for one more moment.

        • #3250910

          not necessarily “all”

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to Well they were meant expain how the

          There’s a lot of very excellent anime, for instance, that has a definite story arc with a definite ending, and once that ending is reached, it’s over. For instance, see [i]Cowboy Bebop[/i] and [i]Rurouni Kenshin[/i], both of which ended with the death of the main character (in one case from inflicted wounds, in the other from illness).

        • #3250887

          Dune Sequels

          by joetechsupport ·

          In reply to Well I thought the first ones

          Everyone I know found God Emporer a quagmire of redunancy and tedium that was the chronological center of the series. I recall page-long descriptions of Leto rolling around in his cart. The required information content could have been a chapter tucked into Dune Messiah and then straight to Heretics and Chapterhouse. I can see people argueing trimming or even combining both into one but I enjoyed them both especially Chapterhouse.

        • #3250813

          I didn’t have quite as much of a problem with the sequels

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Dune Sequels

          – although it was very mean of him to die without a REAL ending – but it’s the prequels that tick me off. “House Atreides”, etc.

          “WRITE YOUR OWN BLOODY UNIVERSE. STOP LEECHING OFF SOMEONE ELSE’S JUST TO MAKE A BOB. IF YOU DON’T HAVE ENOUGH TALENT THEN STICK YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ARSE”

          probably sums up my feelings

          Neil

          😀

        • #3250735

          Actually I’d be more succint

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to I didn’t have quite as much of a problem with the sequels

          and say W@nker.
          I made the mistake of reading one of his other books, that was **** as well.

        • #3250739

          Done it again

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Dune Sequels

          Emperor is my favourite.
          However when I was talking sequels to Dune, I meant those not written by the great man himself.
          Read House Atreides, didn’t learn my lesson and read House Harkonnen, gave up in disgust after that.

        • #3250125

          Tony, I had you marked as a sensible fellow

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Done it again

          Indeed, I agree with you about God Emperor and I believe that GE explains what was only hinted at in the earlier books.

          As for the prequels – I read about two dozen pages of House Atreides in Books Etc’s coffee shop (without buying it) and put it back on the shelf.

          I can understand you buying it and then reading it so as not to waste the money (careful with your brass, up there, I believe) but to THEN buy House Harkonnen.

          Hmmmmm. If you have that much spare cash. In another thread, I was negociating the sale of this nice bridge we have down here with a couple of really good towers on it and the American sale fell though. I don’t suppose that you’re interested?

          Neil

        • #3250118

          Well I had a six hour train journey

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Done it again

          to look forward to and was desperate and that was before I read the first chapter.
          I’ll read the blurb on a toothpaste packet when I get desperate, House Harkonen was less informative, so perhaps I should have picked up a box of colgate minty instead.

        • #3250717

          Problem with series in general

          by bobartner – techrepublic ·

          In reply to Finally, someone who agrees with me re. “Foundation.”

          I agree with re: Foundation series, but isn’t that an inherent danger in a series – the economic imperative tempts the author to take the concept farther than it would other wise go?

          Take Roger Zelazney’s Amber series. I thought the original books (about Corwin) were brilliant, and terrific fun. He then publishes a new series about his son which are frankly unreadable.

          That is why I admire someone J.K. Rowling who says upfront how long the series will be, and that it won’t be extended…of course, easier to make that kind of call when you’re richer than Croessus…

        • #3250630

          And of course Harry Potter finishes

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Problem with series in general

          Another series featuring his dad ?
          Son Of Harry magic in the 22nd century.
          the life and times of Professor Whatshisface.

          It will happen, just too much money in it.
          Publishers will be kidnapping her children and threatening to burn Grandma alive to keep it going.

        • #3251705

          Harry Potter

          by levannah44 ·

          In reply to And of course Harry Potter finishes

          Tony, I already know how the HP series finishes up (see explanation in my other post this discussion) and I can assure you, there’s absolutely NO ROOM for sequels, etc.

          Don’t forget, although adults enjoy reading HP as much as kids do, they’re still primarily kids’ books, and kids like the endings to be nicely tied up, happily-ever-after things.

          And the final HP story is just that. Can’t tell you any more, for the same reason as my son. Book 5’s out in another couple of months anyway (at least here in Australia). Not that much longer to wait for the “ending to it all”! Can’t say how long you’ll have to wait for the films, though.

          Levannah, aka Gret

        • #3251677

          Harry Potter may end

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Harry Potter

          The ‘Potterverse’ won’t though.

          Never read them myself. You can’t knock the success though and kid’s are actually reading books with words in them which is something that pleases me no end. Long may it continue.

          The commercial engine that’s built up around Mr Potter though, has got up a good head of steam. After all if she changes her mind about some more books in the Potterverse.

          Her fans will be happy
          Parents will be happy
          Educators will be happy
          Her publisher will be happy
          The film industry will be happy
          The toy industry will be happy
          The games industry will be happy
          Her bank manager will be happy

          How could she possibly refuse ?

        • #3251170

          The end of Harry Potter

          by levannah44 ·

          In reply to Harry Potter

          I quite agree with all you’re saying, Tony, but short of writing another ending that would not please kids very much, I can’t see how J.K. Rowling could continue.

          The current ending, while very satisfying (for kids, I mean), is very final, although I suppose you could quite easily stretch it for ADULTS, which isn’t quite the same thing.

          Harry and Hermione’s kids at Hogwarts? Nah, it’d just be the same all over again, and frankly, even dead horses can’t be flogged forever.

          Levannah, aka Gret

        • #3249859

          Couldn’t have said it better about Zelazney’s Amber series

          by debuggist ·

          In reply to Problem with series in general

          I loved that series. I remember showing it to my college roommate, and he couldn’t put it down.

          I still enjoy picking it up from time to time to read.

        • #3251708

          Asimov, Adams, Rowling, Peters and Sayers (for starters)

          by levannah44 ·

          In reply to “Foundation” is an excellent example of when to stop writing

          Neil, even if you don’t go for Asimov’s “novels”, meaning the Foundation Trilogy plus all the prequels and sequels (I don’t think the novel was really Asimov’s forte), then at least try his short stories. These days, they’re usually sold in omnibus versions of one kind or another, but I far prefer his short stories to anything in the Foundation series.

          Better still, try some of his extremely entertaining science fact stuff. These are usually sold in omnibus editions as well, and contrary to many people’s ideas that science is “dry and boring”, these little essays are anything but. You don’t even realise you’re reading science fact half the time.

          Then of course, there’s good old Donald Adams, and I don’t only mean the Ford and Arthur books, to which the answer is always 42! Try the Dick Gently series, which will have you in stitches, unless you have something against laughing hilariously in a train full of dour-faced people with their heads in the newspaper who would undoubtedly wonder what the heck you were reading.

          Finally, of course, there’s J.K.Rowling and the Harry Potter series. The fourth film hasn’t been released yet (The Goblet of Fire) but the fifth book is due for release (in Australia) in July this year.

          My son, who works with the company which produces the books’ covers for the paperback version in the international Bloomsbury edition, already knows the title and content of the fifth book, as he is the one usually chosen to oversee the printing of the HP covers as each book nears its release date because of his “integrity”, but is unable to divulge anything as he is under a strict oath of silence not to talk. (He can’t even whisk a single cover from the pile to bring home and show me, because he’s surrounded by a dozen security guards the whole time the job’s in progress!)

          Ellis Peter’s books about the detective/monk Cadfael, living in 12th/13th century England are a must if you like a detective story that’s a little different from the norm, and if you really want to sink your teeth into something, try “Goedel, Escher, Bach”, a look at why math unites three great figures, Goedel the mathematician, Escher the graphic artist and Bach the composer. Some of it’s a bit dry, but the fantasy parts, interspersed throughout, are in the style of Lewis Carroll, aka Professor Charles Dodgson of Alice fame, written as “Alice” dialogues.

          Finally, there’s always Dorothy Sayers and her Lord Peter Wimsey books for a little old-fashioned detecting (not quite as old as Cadfael, of course!), but post WW1’s good enough for me.

          That enough to keep you going awhile, Neil? When you run out, my bookshelves, comprising about half the house, have a lot more ideas on them!

          Have a good read,

          Levannah

        • #3249649

          Hiya!

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Asimov, Adams, Rowling, Peters and Sayers (for starters)

          Missed you over in “Evolution”. I see you’ve been and gone and answered ippirate, though!

          Books: It’s turning into a good thread for me, this.

          I read almost everything that Asimov ever wrote back when he wrote it. I’ve also read most of his non-fiction as he was, after all, a biochemist like me. It’s only the later stuff that annoys me.

          Ditto for Douglas Adams. Here I think I HAVE read everything that he’s written.

          I bought my young niece the Harry Potter “first three” when she was eight and I read them first to see if they were suitable. I have my own copies, now, and have the next on advance pre-order with Amazon with Express Delivery option (how sad!). DON’T SPOIL IT BY GIVING ANYTHING AWAY!

          Cadfael was a superb TV series a few years ago. I haven’t read the books, though. Ditto for Dorothy Sayers either but did enjoy the TV series of Lord Peter Wimsey. I’ll give them both a try.

          Neil

          🙂

        • #3132751

          Clarifying Asprin’s Myth Series…

          by allan.micksch ·

          In reply to “Foundation” is an excellent example of when to stop writing

          and perhaps tweak your interest. This series is known as “The Myth-Adventures of Ox and Skeeve”.

        • #3103221

          Myth-typing???

          by dnsb ·

          In reply to Clarifying Asprin’s Myth Series…

          Should be Aahz and Skeeve. Unless you really want a Pervect mad at you. If you’ve read Myth-taken Identity, what did you think of it.

      • #3329144

        Alternate View of Dracula

        by bfilmfan ·

        In reply to Works of Fiction (serious this time)

        Bram Stoker was suffering from syphillis and later died from complications of the disease. When I learned this fact, the whole nature of the subtext of the novel came into focus.

        In the novel, a band of men and women use modern scientific methods to battle an ancient and seemingly unstoppable force that spreads via offering illicit and unholy pleasure to the vitims, that it slowly destroys. Then the victims are destroyed by this experience, become monsters themselves and go forth to create more victims.

        As an apt description for a sexually transmitted disease as anything ever created.

        On other thoughts, has anyone ever considered that Dr. Jerkyll and Mr. Hyde is actually a story of repressed homsexuality? Hyde is always described as going in and out the brown back door. And although Hyde is described as a well developed man, there is something unseemly in his countenance which causes people to draw back. Jekyll is described as the essence of refined intellectual thought. It is only as Hyde that he can experience his carnal desires.

        I always wondered what Oscar Wilde made of this book, which I have always believed was a direct attack on him greatly veiled.

        • #3329130

          Stoker

          by salamander ·

          In reply to Alternate View of Dracula

          I hadn’t read that interpretation of Stoker’s mindset. Interesting.

          I’d always been under the impression that the Victorian infatuation with vampirism in fiction had to do more with repression than anything else…That the creation of a fictional villain permitted veiled treatment of those topics than was permitted in literature, at the time.

          Interesting parallel from a folklore/anthropological standpoint…at least in the Americas, early cases of consumption were commonly attributed to vampirism. So, perhaps there’s something to that association of disease with the mythological figure that was reflected in Stoker’s thought processes.

    • #3329139

      If Pratchett gets you giddy then try…..

      by ippirate ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Weaveworld by Clive Barker. Barker is most known for his hand at dark horror. Weaveworld was a most intriguing departure from his norm and I enjoyed it immensely.

      If you read the above and would like to see something else from the same, try Imajica.

      **********Sorry, didn’t see the earlier post concerning Barker.********

      • #3342528

        Barker is on my list

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to If Pratchett gets you giddy then try…..

        Two positive recommendations is good.

        Pratchett is extremely English in his humour and especially in his assumptions of background cultural references on which all of his parodies are based. I’m amazed that anyone “not from around here” gets it fully.

        Anyway, thanks again for the pointer to Barker.

        Neil

        • #3342473

          Holiday Scholck…

          by fonken monken uk ·

          In reply to Barker is on my list

          but I find that if you are after a non-challenging bit of high-seas type ripping yarn adventures, head towards anything by Clive Cussler. Does not matter which book as they are all pretty much the same, just re-hashed with added technology.
          Some famous author (the guy who did Pelican Brief and all the court stuff) compares reading Cussler to sticking on your favourite slippers and comfy jumper….

        • #3342451

          Sounds like perfect train-journey fodder

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Holiday Scholck…

          Thanks

        • #3342300

          Not from around here…

          by ippirate ·

          In reply to Barker is on my list

          neil,

          spent two years in the area of “around there” and was introduced to him(Pratchett) by a co-worker.

          Other items of life that I picked up there that have carried and gain me odd looks around home are:

          Being the only person not with a British accent that actually thought that “Men Behaving Badly”(the US version) not just sucked but gagged on it and further, actually “got” the British original.

          I know what “Faulty Towers” is and get the humor of “que?”.

          Can actually understand when words like quid, boot, septic, bonnet and bangers are used as well as phrases as knock up, absolutely crackers, etc.

          Finally, a deep appreciation of British authors, besides Tolkien, Dickens and Lewis.

          All said, I think I would start with Barker over anyone else. He’s granular and refined with his choice of words, the detail alone invokes flights of imagination that are hard won in today’s literary garbage heaps. Among the moderns, he truly stands out.

        • #3342250

          OK! You make a good argument

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Not from around here…

          I’m on it! Amazon order #3 is on for after Easter (and payday) and Barker will be on it.

          “Faulty Towers” well, really “Fawlty Towers” but I forgive you, is acknowledged as England’s greatsest sitcom ever and yet there were only 12 episodes made.

          “Men Behaving Badly” first series featured Martin Clunes and Harry Enfied (an enormously talented comedian – far more so than Morrissey) and it bombed. Somehow it moved from the commercial channel to the BBC with Clunes and Neil Morrissey and it was a huge success.

          This is so strange. A trailer for Fawlty Towers has just come on. It follows Red Dwarf – which I’m about to watch – so I will be setting the VCR.

          Neil

          btw Where were you “over here”?

        • #3250732

          Suffolk County

          by ippirate ·

          In reply to OK! You make a good argument

          RAF Lakenheath, about 35 minutes out of Cambridge.

          Thanks for the overlook of spelling, it’s been a while.

          I had forgotten about Red Dwarf, course I didn’t enjoy it nearly as much as the two previous. Between Enfield and Morrissey, I’ll give you the point but I will also indicate that Morrissey was actually much more capable of playing the mindless, blithering, dim witted sap, perhaps because it wasn’t that far of a leap for him, whereas I always felt somewhat frustrated with Enfield. It just never seemed to fit him to my perception on the couple of episodes I saw with him cast.

          Other items of interest, Blackadder, One Foot in the Grave, The Trouble with Mr. Bean and the list goes on.

          Anyway, enjoy Barker and let me know what you think of him.

        • #3249930

          I agree with you absolutely

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Suffolk County

          Easy really – we just have to pick the subject.

          I think you’ve assessed Morrissey correctly in that his screen character was close enough to his own character whereas Enfield was totally wasted playing a “lad” for thirty minutes. He just excels in playing outrageous characters in short sketches. It would suggest that the BBC are better at casting comedies than the other channels as they made MBB a success and also gave Enfield his own show. As most of the classics (and all of your list) are BBC then I don’t think that there’s any argument, either.

          I knew the area around Lakenheath quite well as I had a girlfriend from Ely for about a year. Not been there for years, though. I do remember there being good beer in Suffolk.

          I reckon I’ll get around to Barker in a couple of months. I have one on my next Amazon order.

          Neil

    • #3342523

      Some American Fiction (non Sci-fi)

      by faith_michele ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I do like Sci-Fi, but it isn’t my favorite fiction.

      Stephen King – “The Stand”, the book is better then the movie. In my opinion all of his books are better then the movies made for them. I have read “The Stand” at least 5 times. His are the only horror books that I will read.

      I like all the fiction by John Grisham. “The Firm”, “The Pelican Brief”, “The Client”, etc. Even after seeing the movies, the books are still good to read.

      Some Tom Clancy is good.

      Anything that has action/adventure/a plot (it also has to be somewhat believable too), I like and will have to remember some more books. I too have read the classic Hemmingway and Steinbeck.

      Enjoy the train time.
      Faith

      • #3342466

        classics

        by apotheon ·

        In reply to Some American Fiction (non Sci-fi)

        Authors like Hemingway and Steinbeck (and Emerson, for another example) can be very difficult to read, at times. There’s just something ponderous about their writing. I can understand a reluctance to read their books on morning train rides while still waking up. Classics by American authors that I found a much easier read, though, follow:

        [u]Anthem[/u] by Ayn Rand

        [u]The Catcher in the Rye[/u] by JD Salinger

        [u]Cat’s Eye[/u] by Margaret Atwood

        [u]The Great Gatsby[/u] by F. Scott Fitzgerald

        [u]The Handmaiden’s Tale[/u] by Margaret Atwood

        [u]Walden[/u] by Henry David Thoreau

        Notes:

        Yes, I’m aware that Ayn Rand was born in the Soviet Union. She moved to the United States at an early age, though, and adopted this country as her own, then went on to write some of the most quintessentially American novels in existence. Her love for the good ol’ US of A, regardless of what you think of her philosophical ideas, could hardly be disputed. The reason I only mention [u]Anthem[/u] by her is that any novel of hers longer than that becomes a bit intellectually weighty for mornings; you may want to save something like [u]Atlas Shrugged[/u] for the evenings.

        Yes, I’m aware that Margaret Atwood is a Canadian. Canada is still in North America, though, and her writing is simply good enough to include here. She’s really an excellent author in every regard, and I’m recommending everything of hers that I’ve read (all two of ’em). [u]Cat’s Eye[/u] is sort of an examination of the human condition with an unblinking, frank assessment of the dysfunctions and formative experiences of a woman’s life, wonderfully presented in an engaging, if at times almost painful, manner. She can write a scene that simultaneously makes you cringe visibly while reading it and not able to tear yourself away from it. [u]The Handmaiden’s Tale[/u], meanwhile, has particular relevance right now (in my opinion), considering the direction in which American politics threatens to head if something doesn’t arrest it soon. It’s a harshly dystopian novel that belongs on any shelf beside [u]1984[/u], [u]Animal Farm[/u], [u]Anthem[/u], and [u]Brave New World[/u]. I tend to guess you’ve read those novels in this short list that aren’t on my list above, by the way. If not, you definitely should.

        • #3342445

          No train, but I’ll have to try some of that

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to classics

          Anything that belongs with Animal Farm & Brave New World must be worth a read.
          Try Kim Stanley Robinson’s Antartica, you might find that inetresting. Sort of spin off from his Hard SF Mars Trilogy, but it’s set almost present day as background for his ‘future books’. He went there (antartica not mars) as well, so there’s a high level of realism to it.
          Very interesting critiques of globalisation and capitalism as feudalism writ large.

        • #3342437

          Antarctica?

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to No train, but I’ll have to try some of that

          I’ll have to look into that. Thanks for the recommendation.

        • #3342436

          Atlas Shrugged, I did enjoy

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to classics

          But I’ve not read Anthem. Another one for the list along with The Handmaidens Tale.

          Many thanks,

          Neil

        • #3342430

          quite welcome

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to Atlas Shrugged, I did enjoy

          [u]Anthem[/u] might be Rand’s shortest novel, and is an easy read, but it’s a pretty depthful work all the same (and less likely to offend your left-wingnut socialist neighbors).

          On the flip side, avoid the heck out of anything by Upton “Utopian” Sinclair. The guy was a brainless propagandist and a hack. His most (in)famous work, [u]The Jungle[/u], is hailed far and wide by left-wingnuts as a “great work”, but it’s so awful it could have been written by Hillary Clinton (and if you’ve read any excerpts from her book, you know that’s pretty darned awful).

        • #3250944

          Handmaid’s Tale

          by salamander ·

          In reply to classics

          I’ll second the recommendation of “The Handmaid’s Tale.” It’s a truly chilling work. It’s been many years since I’ve read it, but it is certainly a “classic,” in every sense.

        • #3250764

          I still can’t decide

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Handmaid’s Tale

          If I loved that book or hated it. No doubt the story is extremely well written, but it scared the bejesus out of me.

        • #3250740

          It scared me, too.

          by salamander ·

          In reply to I still can’t decide

          …but it made me think about whether or not something like that could ever really happen. Sometimes, I think that it could be possible.

        • #3250720

          Exactly

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to It scared me, too.

          That is what made it so frightening. It’s not likely, but not out of the realm of possibility.

        • #3250203

          truly frightening

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to Exactly

          The most terrifying aspect of that line of thought is this:

          When it was written, it was an even more distant possibility than it is now. That’s right: since it has been written, we’ve moved [b]closer[/b] to that reality. The same is true of [u]1984[/u], [u]Brave New World[/u], and even [u]Anthem[/u] and [u]Fahrenheit 451[/u]. All the dystopian, collectivist hells of classic fiction are becoming more and more likely as time passes. Totalitarian oppression of the nanny-state variety is becoming more and more a reality.

          It’s getting to a point where people don’t laugh when someone equates something like the USA PATRIOT Act and the DMCA with concepts like “freedom”; instead, they either nod in agreement or just keep quiet in the hopes their lack of agreement won’t be noticed.

    • #3342447

      Reply To: What is your favourite fiction?

      by changeadvocate ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Action/adventure: Any Clive Cussler novel, “Raising the Titanic” is a good place to start.
      Fantasy: “Wizard’s First Rule” by Terry Goodkind. Nine more books in this series.
      Technology: Tom Clancy or Dale Brown
      Drama: Angels and Demons by Dan Brown. Also wrote the DaVinci Code which I haven’t read yet.
      Humor: Janet Evonovich’s numbered series including One for the Money, Two for the Dough, and Three to Get Deadly.
      Good reading!

    • #3342424

      What? Nobody’s bothered to mention the GREATEST

      by jessie ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      sci-fi writer of ALL TIME?!?!?!

      [b]Robert A. Heinlein[/b]

      The first book of his I ever read, when I was 13 years old, “Stranger in a Strange Land” was FANTASTIC, and I’ve been hooked ever since!!!

      The Moon is a Harsh Mistress – Excellent!!
      Time Enough for Love — FUN and a GREAT READ!
      The Notebooks of Lazarus Long — GREAT BOOK, to be read after Time Enough for Love.
      Starship Troopers — Way better than the movie!!!
      Puppet Masters — Again, WAY better than the movie!
      Job: A Comedy of Justice — FANTASTIC!

      Many of Heinleins books, even “unrelated” stories, will have the same characters popping up in them, so it’s best to read the books in the order that Heinlein wrote them.

      • #3342421

        I was just getting ready to, actually.

        by apotheon ·

        In reply to What? Nobody’s bothered to mention the GREATEST

        I’d gotten done posting responses to other people’s posts, and was going to start making fresh recommendations of my own, starting with Heinlein.

        [u]The Moon is a Harsh Mistress[/u] and [u]Starship Troopers[/u] each deserve their own essays, really, but I’ll refrain from boring everyone with my purple prose too much. Suffice to say that Heinlein, despite denying any substantive status as a “libertarian”, was possibly one of the greatest libertarian thinkers of the 20th Century. His quirks and oddities that make people glance askance at mention of his name should never stand in the way of the insights provided by his unique outlook in such novels as these.

        [u]Methuselah’s Children[/u] also deserves a mention, though if you read no other books by the man, the four that stand out most for me as [b]required reading[/b] are [u]The Moon is a Harsh Mistress[/u], [u]The Cat Who Walks Through Walls[/u], [u]Starship Troopers[/u], and [u]The Door Into Summer[/u]. These are some of the best books ever written.

        The [i]Starship Troopers[/i] movie was in actuality made by people who didn’t like the book, and felt threatened by the ideas Heinlein espoused in it. They set out intentionally to make a mockery of the thing. As a humor piece, it’s kind of amusing, as long as you are willing to view it as being wholly separate from the novel, but when viewed in the context of being supposedly based on the novel it becomes less valuable than the gunk I pick up on the soles of my boots in the movie theater.

      • #3342412

        I don’t want to cause trouble

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to What? Nobody’s bothered to mention the GREATEST

        but I’m not really so fond of Heinlein as I am of other authors. Looked at from a UK left-wingnut perspective, his characters are sometimes more alien than he intends!
        My top man for earlier sci-fi has GOT to be Larry Niven (with or without Pournelle – preferably without).

        Sorry…

        Neil

        I have read ’em all, though.

        • #3342390

          Actually I prefer Pournelle

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to I don’t want to cause trouble

          by himself. The Falkenberg stuff, and a Spaceship For King David were very good.
          There again you have to go a long way to beat a Mote In God’s Eye, Oath Of Fealty, and SF writers save the universe in Footfall.

        • #3342385

          I don’t think that we’re going to argue

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Actually I prefer Pournelle

          Mote in God’s Eye is one of my all-time tops.

          I do like stuff like “Smoke Ring” and “Integral Trees”, though.

          Neil

        • #3342379

          flashback

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to I don’t think that we’re going to argue

          Holy crap, has it been a long time since I’ve read [u]The Integral Trees[/u]. That was more than twenty years ago, in 1984. I was . . . eight or nine when I read that, I think. I finished it before lunch. Great book.

      • #3342392

        Good old Bob eh

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to What? Nobody’s bothered to mention the GREATEST

        Used to enjoy , but in my opinion he lost it completely Number Of the Beast onwards.
        Have Spacesuit will Travel, for the younger reader.
        Friday, raised some very interesting ideas. If you like Woodrow Wilson Smith, see if you can get hold of the first time he was introduced (I think) Methusela’s Children.
        Time Enough for Love, was indeed brilliant though, loved the collection of Aphorisms.
        especially “Never scare a little man, He’ll kill you”.

        • #3342365

          Aphorism

          by jessie ·

          In reply to Good old Bob eh

          My favorite of those was “Little girls and butterflies need no excuse.”

          My husband doesn’t “get” that one though… keeps asking me, “No excuse for WHAT?!?!”

        • #3342304

          For anything

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Aphorism

          They’re both just beutiful.
          My grandaugther operates on the same basis, and it’s very true where grandad is concerned, less for mum though.

          Long time since I’ve read any Heinlein. He comes out with some really clever and/or insightful points some times, but most of his characters are too one-dimensional for me.

      • #3251703

        Heinlein

        by levannah44 ·

        In reply to What? Nobody’s bothered to mention the GREATEST

        My favourite was “Glory Road”, which I come back to again and again.

        Levannah

      • #3090636

        Short Focus

        by lmaurer5 ·

        In reply to What? Nobody’s bothered to mention the GREATEST

        I,ve been reading sci-fi since 1953…before it was cool! I would say you have missed the classics: Heinleins “Future History” series – mostly short story collections (Blowups Happen, The Man Who Sold the Moon, Farnham’s Freehold), And how about “Friday” and “Stranger in a Strange Land”.

        I found no mention of Ray Bradbury, Frederick Brown, Frederick Pohl, “Doc” Smith, (the Lensman Series) Philip K. Dick, Arthur C. CLarke, John W. Capmpbell, Ted Sturgeon, A.E. VanVogt, Robert Sheckley, Andre NOrton, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Piers ANthony, Robert Silverburg. I could go on for days!

    • #3342413

      Sounds like you guys need some profile updates

      by Jay Garmon ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Based on this discussion, I’m surprised more people don’t have “Science Fiction” and “Comic Books” listed as interests in their profiles.

      Mr. Brinley and I were beginning to think we were the only ones out there.
      http://techrepublic.com.com/5212-6257-0.html?attribID=195&query=Comic%20Books

      http://techrepublic.com.com/5212-6257-0.html?attribID=196&query=Science%20Fiction

      If anybody wants to get with the program, you can add these interests to your profile via this (badly organized but getting better) page: http://techrepublic.com.com/5226-6257-0.html

      –Jay

      • #3342405

        Reply To: What is your favourite fiction?

        by montgomery gator ·

        In reply to Sounds like you guys need some profile updates

        Maybe because the examples given indicated IT-related interests, when you go in to edit your profile? Maybe people did not think to add non-IT interests because of that.

        • #3342271

          That, coupled with the fact that …

          by deepsand ·

          In reply to Reply To: What is your favourite fiction?

          without some notice of changes made to the site, it’s likely that few of us will revisit our profiles merely out of curiosity.

    • #3342402

      more stuff

      by apotheon ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I enjoy hard sci-fi, to be sure, but I haven’t read a whole lot lately and I’m having a hard time remembering what of it I have read. One genre that never slips my mind, though, is Cyberpunk: the pioneers of the genre are some of the most talented, skilled taleweavers ever to walk the earth, and easily sit among my favorite authors of all time. Their works figure pretty prominently in my list of favorites. I’ll make some recommendations, both in the Cyberpunk genre and outside of it:

      I’ve read exactly one book so far by Philip K. Dick, [u]Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?[/u], though I own several more that I intend to read this year (along with a bunch of other books I have lying around waiting for my attention). It was the basis for the incredible move [i]Bladerunner[/i], directed by Ridley Scott and starring Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young, Edward James Olmos, and a bunch of other recognizable names. Both the book and the movie are truly excellent, though neither is particularly recognizable as having anything to do with the other outside of the core questions they raise. This book is definitely an odd read, and it might be difficult for some people to really grab onto, but the writing is thought-provoking and exceedingly high quality stuff. This is the grandfather of the Cyberpunk genre, and well worth reading.

      [b]Anything and everything by William Gibson![/b] If Dick was the grandfather of cyberpunk, Gibson was the father of the genre. He’s the man that coined the term “cyberspace”, and most of the genre is a direct ripoff of his quality work. Books of his include:

      [u]Burning Chrome[/u] (short story collection)

      [u]Neuromancer[/u] (perhaps THE seminal work of the genre)

      [u]Count Zero[/u] and [u]Mona Lisa Overdrive[/u] (rounding out the Urban Sprawl trilogy with [u]Neuromancer[/u])

      [u]Virtual Light[/u], [u]Idoru[/u], and my personal favorite Gibson book, [u]All Tomorrow’s Parties[/u] (Gibson’s second trilogy)

      [u]Pattern Recognition[/u] (actually set in an almost-now time)

      [u]Difference Engine[/u] with Bruce Sterling (a speculative alternate-past steampunk novel)

      Finishing up my rambling about the cyberpunk genre is Neal Stephenson’s [u]Snow Crash[/u], an incredible book as well. I haven’t read any of the rest of his books, but this one is great, and I fully intend to read anything else of his that I can get into my greedy little hands. It’s also worth noting that Stephenson’s essays on subjects like the development of Linux and the like are really superb reading, and can mostly be found online for free.

      Some swords-and-sorcery fiction with an aesthetic somewhat similar to that of Gibson’s writing is the Elric Saga by Michael Moorcock, starting with the genre-bender [u]Elric of Melniboné[/u]. Moorcock singlehandedly redefined the fantasy genre with that novel, and the rest of the series is just as good. I have no doubt that good novels like Friedman’s [u]Black Sun Rising[/u] would never have existed without the influence and inspiration of Moorcock’s Elric.

      I’m not sure whether anyone has mentioned it, but Neil Gaiman’s [u]American Gods[/u] is truly excellent work.

      One of the best novels ever written, particularly in the sci fi genre, is Orson Scott Card’s [u]Ender’s Game[/u]. You can feel free to ignore the rest of the original series, as it kinda goes downhill from there (it’s hard not to, considering the absolutely stellar quality of the first book, but the following books are actually kind of annoying in a number of ways). I read the rest of the first Ender series basically for the sake of completeness, but you don’t have to, by any stretch. There’s a second series now, mostly about other characters after Ender leaves Earth for good, that starts with a retelling of the story in [u]Ender’s Game[/u] from Bean’s point of view (called [u]Ender’s Shadow[/u]: this second series is looking pretty good so far (I’ve read two of them), quite a bit better than the remainder of the original series, but still not quite as fantastically good as [u]Ender’s Game[/u] itself.

      There is of course Haldeman’s [u]Forever War[/u]: I recommend the re-issue of it, where the original version (which wasn’t previously published as a novel, but only in parts as a series of shorts in a magazine) is restored. It’s a little “darker”, but as the author intended it. He has written a couple of sequels to it, but I haven’t read them and thus cannot comment.

      Finally (for now), I’ll mention one more really superb novel: Walter Miller’s [u]A Canticle for Leibowitz[/u]. It’s great stuff, about a monastic order preserving the works of science and human knowledge as holy relics after the a nuclear holocaust.

      I’m sure there are a couple dozen more books I should be mentioning right now, but I can’t think of them right at this moment. I’m sure that’s enough to keep you busy for a while, anyway.

      • #3342386

        If you like Sterling

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to more stuff

        Try Holy Fire, a brilliant effort.
        Hmmm I though Enders Game was the weakest of the first four. Speaker for the Dead was my favourite. The Shadow series is well worth continuing though.
        Check Out David Zindell, starting with Neverness, loses it a bit after that but still a good read.
        Elric, now there’s a proper hero.

        • #3342376

          Ack!

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to If you like Sterling

          First, I’ve only read the collaboration with Gibson: I haven’t read any other Sterling, so I can’t really comment on whether or not I like him as an author.

          Second: YOU THOUGHT [u]ENDER’S GAME[/u] WAS THE WEAKEST?! Holy crap. I can’t even believe I’ve found someone that thinks that. It just boggles the mind. I have NEVER met ANYONE that liked ANY of the rest of the first Ender series NEARLY as much as the first book. I don’t even know how to react (except with surprise, obviously). Wow.

        • #3342310

          Heh it’s just me

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Ack!

          Wiggin as Speaker for the Dead was a character I found it far easier to relate to, the character in Game seemed to be very unconcerned by moral consequences. In essence he was made that way, I was much happier with him when he realised the true cost of his original amorality.
          Now it may be true that an amoral person would act that way, but I’ve no experience on said front and some aspects of his personality just didn’t ring true, with me at least.

          I’ve read it and the follow ons several times so it still must be a reasonable book. I’ve never been able to read anything else by him though tried the Alvin Maker thing, couldn’t get on with that at all.

          Could be worse, I might have been a David Edding’s fan.
          Arrggh.

        • #3250907

          hah

          by apotheon ·

          In reply to Heh it’s just me

          That’s funny. “might have been a David Eddings fan.” Yeah, you dodged that bullet.

          I actually identified with the Ender character quite a lot. Hmm. Not in a sense of amorality — I don’t think he was amoral, specifically, so much as simply learning the consequences of his actions as he went. You must realize, to understand the character and story in the proper context, that despite the quick job of growing up he was forced to do, he was still in many ways a child.

          . . . and children have real problems with understanding causality in many ways.

        • #3250889

          I’ll go with that

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to hah

          but It’s why I couldn’t relate to him. Forgot TR’s rule IMHO Ender’s Game was the weakest …
          LOL

    • #3342382

      Comics

      by neilb@uk ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      the ultimate comic…

      http://www.viz.co.uk/

      • #3342298

        Not a comic, and definilely nothing

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to Comics

        to do with Two Fat Slags.
        Wonder what our american members would think of Viz, be interesting that.
        For your next list if you haven’t read them
        R Scott Bakker’s The Darkness that comes before (1st of a series)
        and a must for Hard SF Fans
        Buzz Aldrin (with Gary Barnes) Encounter With Tiber.

        • #3342283

          I just thought I’d stir the mix

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Not a comic, and definilely nothing

          with something that I have to believe might give some of them a bit of entertaining culture shock. Personally, I think the Fat Slags would pick their teeth with Superman…

          (Mumble) years ago, a couple of friends and I did a ragmag cartoon with an encounter between the Fat Slags and Star Trek. That was the first time I ever used “Beam me up Scotty” without the significant comma!

          I haven’t read more than an odd copy for years and my nephew now has my collection of the first few years (including a First Edition worth around ?300 but I didn’t know THAT when I gave them to him).

          I have ordered The Darkness That Comes Before – I do like series. This is another one I thought was a typo – I owe you an apology for thinking you were Oz!

          I think I’ve got enough for now. I have 17 books on order with a series total of around 70 and a total cost of a couple or three hundred! This doen’t count the early stuff which I’ll try for in the local charity shops.

          It was the whole point of the thread, though.

          Neil

    • #3342255

      Terry Goodkind

      by mirrormirror ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Check out the “Sword of Truth” series. Not too bad. The last one, “Chainfire” was not very good. I hope he does better in his next one.

    • #3250900

      pulp fiction

      by joetechsupport ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Regarding Clive Cussler: Wilbur Smith has “River God” and the “Seventh Scroll” set in Pharoahonic Egypt supposedly translated from scrolls written by a court slave/scribe. Very enjoyable, he sees and reports everything, ignored by conspirators and confidant of the royals.

      Don’t wince. 3 novels by Tom Clancy. You winced, didn’t you? If you like watching/reading a good war-strategy movie/book occasionaly, you’ll like these. If you’re curious, I’ll bet you’ll like these. I call them exciting reads on my couch or holed up in my tent with a gale blowing.
      -Red Storm Rising -The Battle For the North Atlantic fought between the NATO and Soviet Bloc with 1980’s technology. You feel like you’re on the deck of the screening cruiser when the missiles come in. no dogma
      -Cardinal Of the Kremlin -spatter of dogma here & there
      -Hunt for Red October -virtually no dogma

    • #3250728

      Heck with a book here is a publisher-www.baen.com Free ebooks, Authors belo

      by bhunsinger ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      David Weber -Honor Harrington military
      Oath of swords Great sword & SOCERYTravis new Author
      Eric Flint alternate timelines (well not forward the mage series)
      John Ringo military sf
      ALSO the author hand in thier discussion board and post snippets of the lates book months before publishing.

    • #3250128

      The first Amazon package arrived this morning

      by neilb@uk ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      In no particular order of merit! 🙂

      The Horse Whisperer
      Gardens of the Moon
      Red Mars
      The Spirit Ring
      Miles Errant
      The Saga of the Renunciates
      Watchmen
      Every Dead Thing
      The Hyperion Omnibus: “Hyperion”, “The Fall of Hyperion”
      Black Sun Rising

      Should keep me going. But there is more to come!

      Thanks all,

      Neil

      • #3250552

        Dean Koontz

        by protiusx ·

        In reply to The first Amazon package arrived this morning

        I have read a lot of his work. Odd Thomas is fantastic and Frankenstein is good, the Taking was a good read and so was By the light of the moon. I am a huge Stephen King fan but you have to really qualify the book. He either writes fantastic stuff or absolute stinkeroo. From a Buick 8 and Bag of bones was excellent. Now if your interested in some really cool reading you can check out ?The Children?s War? by J.N. Stroyar . This last one is a heavy read and an emotional investment. Happy reading!

    • #3250004

      I’ll read just about anything; Sci-Fi, action, crime etc., even technical.

      by sleepin’dawg ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      My latest kick is Lawrence Block – his Mathew Scudder series but he has other characters such as his Bernie Rhodenbar series which is more humourous in tone. He also writes guides for aspiring mystery writers, such as how to commit murder and dispose of bodies. Actually quite interesting and guaranteed to get you lots of space on the train when you inevitably display the title(s).

      Dawg ]:)

    • #3250558

      Please don’t hit too hard

      by protiusx ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I know this is going to sound really weird but I read the entire Harry Potter series and I was impressed with how well written they were for children?s book. I think the character construction is very well done and the characters stay true throughout the series. I also think she does a good job growing the characters from children into young men and women. Believe it or not but I got the first book from my mother who just turned 60.

      • #3250554

        Harry Potter

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Please don’t hit too hard

        Gret (and others) have suggested Harry Potter and I’ll repeat my answer to her.

        I bought my niece, Jessica, the Harry Potter “first three” when she was seven and I read them first to see if they were suitable. I have my own hardback copies and have the next on advance pre-order with Amazon with Express Delivery option (how sad!). I also have the movies on DVD. I’m also committed to buying Jessica each copy the instant it comes out and waiting for the paperback release is not acceptable to her (or me).

        How you doing? Obviously still OK and avoiding shrapnel!

        Neil

        🙂

    • #3250538

      Go with the Gunslinger

      by jparrish ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I started reading the Dark Tower Series by Stephen King and found myself completely enthralled with it.

      • #3250533

        So did I

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to Go with the Gunslinger

        until Wolves of Calla. Fell off badly, very disappointing.
        Still haven’t read the last one, may pick it up just to see if can end as badly as it was finishing.

    • #3250440

      Most things…..

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      .
      …..that Oz claims to know or to have done.

      • #3250424

        Come on, Max

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Most things…..

        Hijacking my thread like that. It’s not cricket.

        Funny, though. 😀

        But how do I read it on the train?

        Neil

        • #3250399

          Thanks for seeing. . . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Come on, Max

          .
          …the intended humor.

          You know, it just came to me when I saw the discussion title, and I felt compelled to share. No hijacking was intended. (And I’ll take it no further.)

          So how about these for “fiction”.

          The New York Times.

          Transcripts of an old Dan Rather newscast.

          Doom and Gloom observations of the American Democrat party.

          Man-caused global warming stories.

        • #3250396

          Oooooh! I think the last one

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Thanks for seeing. . . .

          is pushing your luck! And you know it! NOW GET YOUR SORRY REPUBLICAN ARSE OFF MY THREAD!

          😀

        • #3250380

          Okay – I’ll leave – I know when I’m not wanted. . . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Oooooh! I think the last one

          .
          By the way, I’m really aligned more closely with the Libertarians, not the Republicans.

          I would have provided a real answer to your question, but I don’t really read that much fiction. I love to watch science fiction (Star Wars type stuff), but the last piece of fiction I actually read was a book called The Legend of Bagger Vance, and that was well over a year ago. I usually confine my reading to non-fiction, history, and such.

        • #3250375

          Apologies!

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Okay – I’ll leave – I know when I’m not wanted. . . .

          I should have said …Libertarian arse off my thread.

          You’re welcome back when you’ve learned your lesson!

          🙂

        • #3235591

          May I add:

          by montgomery gator ·

          In reply to Thanks for seeing. . . .

          More sources of fiction:

          Moveon.org

          Michael Moore

          John Kerry’s speeches

          George Soros

          Al Franken

        • #3235575

          Absolutely

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to May I add:

          Good additions

      • #3251529

        What section do you find them in, Fiction or Fantasy?

        by sleepin’dawg ·

        In reply to Most things…..

        :^O

        Dawg

    • #3235585

      Great sources of fiction

      by jck ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Elementary school, Parents, White House investigative staff, Political campaign speech writers, Microsoft knowledge base…

      but my favorite fiction:

      Cinderella…cause…the nice, polite, charming guy NEVER gets the pretty girl, especially if she is from the hood.

    • #3233602

      My first amazon order

      by neilb@uk ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      has given me 6223 pages of new authors.

      Thanks, everybody. I’ll get back to you on how much I enjoy them.

      Neil

      😀

      • #3233576

        Your Avatar

        by protiusx ·

        In reply to My first amazon order

        Is that a picture of you or someone else?

        • #3233572

          Yes, indeed! Someone else.

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Your Avatar

          Hilary Briss, demon butcher of Royston Vasey…

          Ask for the “special” stuff!

          p.s I generally try and get an avatar the “fits” with the main discussion that I’m in – I was Charles Darwin for weeks. However, the avatar I’ve got now is basically just a generally weird character from my current favourite comedy – The League of Gentlemen! He is – by far – not the weirdest, though.

          Papa Lazarou next, I think.

    • #3233060

      When all else fails………………..

      by sleepin’dawg ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Read the bible, the King James version. Well written by any or all literary standards. One of the best compendiums of fiction done in classical English.

      Dawg ]:)

      • #3233051

        Well, Dawg

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to When all else fails………………..

        I’ve read it and I’m waiting for the sequel.

        Neil 😀

        • #3233032

          It’s out. They’re calling it the Qu’rann!!!

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to Well, Dawg

          Of course you’ll need a translation and to find the most generally accepted version, as there exists some variance of opinion of which is the correct version. :^O

          Dawg ]:)

        • #3102446

          The real Sequel

          by boogaloodude ·

          In reply to Well, Dawg

          I’m pretty sure that Frank Herbert did a sequel or five.., but towards the end most of it was completely unreadable because he was apparently trying to establish a New Religion (he used to bunk with L. Ron Hubbard)

      • #3232901

        Actually I found it

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to When all else fails………………..

        rather disjointed the mulitple authors should have collaborated a bit more. That fella at the end, lost the plot completely.
        I wonder if you could consider the bible the father of copyleft.

      • #3232893

        I thought I posted earlier, yesterday

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to When all else fails………………..

        that I’d read the original. The post seems to have disappeared.

        Anyway, read it and agree with Tony. I am waiting for the sequel with interest, though.

        Neil

        • #3232887

          Yeah it disappeared for sure because I posted a reply.

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to I thought I posted earlier, yesterday

          My reply was that the sequel was already out. The sequel is called Qu’rann and there are assorted versions of it.:^O

          Dawg ]:)

        • #3232864

          Aaaaah! The plot thins!

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Yeah it disappeared for sure because I posted a reply.

          Looks like they might have pulled the pair of us irreligious bastarts!

          We know that there’s more different interpretations of the Bible than there are ways to burn a heretic!

          I think, so far, that there’s only one Qu’ran but, again, more interpretations than there are ways to blow up an infidel.

          Neil 😀

        • #3232836

          Sorry to contradict you but there is a Sunni, a Shiite and a Bahai version.

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to Aaaaah! The plot thins!

          There are more but those are the three that come immediately to mind. The Bahai version is relatively benign but the other two can be interpreted to whatever end you might care to pursue. Actually there is more than one Shiite version(s) that I’m already aware of.

          I can almost feel the heat from the fires now. :^O

          Dawg ]:)

        • #3232822

          I bow to your superior knowledge, Dawg

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Sorry to contradict you but there is a Sunni, a Shiite and a Bahai version.

          This is, after all, my thread for people to tell me what books to read!

          I must admit that I thought there was only one – told by the Angel Gabriel to Mohammed – but what do I know???

          So, which is the best version?

          😀

        • #3234509

          Don’t get caught reading

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to I bow to your superior knowledge, Dawg

          the Q’aran on the train. You’ll be spending the rest of your life under house arrest, still with all the books it will be productive.

        • #3234415

          Beats the Hell out of me. They’re like the various Christian Bibles……..

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to I bow to your superior knowledge, Dawg

          The basic story is the same but there are enough variances to make each unique. The Bahaists seem the most peaceful but since adherents of the other two seemed dead set on eliminating me I didn’t go to any great effort to differentiate between them to any extent. They would shoot at me; I would shoot back. The fact that I’m still here is through no lack of effort on their part other than that I must have been somewhat more effective in returning fire. I should stop this here because I may be coming too close to displaying certain prejudices I have regarding muslims. 😀

          Dawg ]:)

        • #3236926

          The Bahai

          by itgirli ·

          In reply to I bow to your superior knowledge, Dawg

          The Bahai are very peaceful. And they teach the equality of men and women. I studied it for a few years, as I had a friend who was Bahai. (It’s like christianity with buddist overtones) that’s about the closest way to describe it, though not the most accurate.

        • #3090684

          Vast number of sequels available

          by jevans4949 ·

          In reply to I thought I posted earlier, yesterday

          Christian bookshops are full of biographies of people who have taken the message to heart and tried to live by it.

          One you might like to try and get hold of (possibly out of print) is “The Hiding Place”, by Corrie ten Boom. It’s a biography of a Dutch lady who sheltered Jews during the Nazi occupation, and suffered the consequences. It was made into a movie in the 1970’s.

    • #3236944

      my favorite fiction

      by jck ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Desperate Housewives 😉

      • #3236941

        No, you just want one

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to my favorite fiction

        !

        • #3237495

          nah

          by jck ·

          In reply to No, you just want one

          I don’t want a desperate housewife.

          I want a reliable single lady.

          Although that one brunette besides Terri Hatcher is hot…but…eh…she’s foolin around with teens…so she’s a molester…at least, that’s what the 5 minutes of that show I’ve watched seems like.

          So…anyone got EHarmony nightmares to tell me about? I’m foolin with the idea…is it fiction?

    • #3236943

      I enjoy

      by itgirli ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      re-reading any Jules Verne or H.G.Wells.
      Any Chaucer in it’s original form. Swift is always great. Modern authors I like are Ed Greenwood, R.A.Salvator & Raymond Feist.

    • #3236930

      Clive Cussler

      by cortech ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Any of the Dirk Pitt series. They’ve got everything a guy wants. Girls, classic cars, boats, cool gadgets, and adventure.

    • #3238757

      Thomas Pynchon

      by deepsand ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      In particular, [i]V[/i].

      • #3090732

        Without a doubt.

        by radietz ·

        In reply to Thomas Pynchon

        Pynchon is the premier American novelist. Except for a few fanatical devotees of other than dime novel page burners he has yet to be discovered by the mainstream book buyer/reader. Perhaps the complexity and heft of “Gravity’s Rainbow” or as I call it, “V, part II,” or “Mason and Dixon” prevent many readers from starting a tome that can’t be finished in a single read. It takes considerable discipline to start a book that will take days if not weeks to polish off the first time through.

    • #3252002

      Brian Lumley Necroscope series

      by waughd ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      13 books in all.
      A real can’t put down series.

    • #3251997

      Best I ever read

      by uglycelt ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Anything by Nelson de Mille
      funny and thrilling

    • #3090872

      Favorite Fictions

      by rnackerman ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I saw lots of good suggestion, and I agree with many of them, but I have a few more favorites to add (I did not read ALL the responses so these may be in there).

      Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard (the movie sucked). The book is considered one of the best fiction of the 20th century, not just for sci-fi.

      If you like Lord of the Rings, check out the Wheel of Time series from Robert Jordon (11 books so far).

      Like some historical fiction with Scotland? The Outlander series by Diana Gabaldon (5 books). Takes place about 250 years ago in Scotland. The series continues into England, France and the colonies.

      Some older historical fiction? How about Clan of the Cave Bear by Jean Auel (5 books). A tall good looking blonde surviving in prehistoric times.

      Like American Indian stories? Check out the “People of the ____” (different name on each book) by Michael and Kathleen Gear. Historical stories about various American Indian tribes. The earlier books are not that great but they get better. You do not have to read the books in order, each book is a different tribe at a different point in history.

      Foundation series by Isaac Asimov is a classic sci-fi and a must read for any sci-fi fan.

      So is the Dune series by Frank Herbert.

    • #3090862

      The Dragon Riders of Pern

      by verd1 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The Dragon Riders of Pern is a very good series, There are a lot books in total. It is by Anne Mccaffrey. This is a fantasy series

      • #3090850

        read many of these to my boys

        by jdclyde ·

        In reply to The Dragon Riders of Pern

        and their favorite was always Ruth, the white dragon.

        my only problem was in trying to read out loud some of the names after they became dragon riders.

    • #3090855

      800 pages

      by jlware ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Johnathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Clarke is a big novel about magic in early 19th century England, written as a history, complete with footnotes.

    • #3090851

      American Historical Fiction – Lite

      by mark.mcswain ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      For some lite American historical fiction, try John Jakes. The Kent Family Chronicles is a great adventure, and Charleston is an excellent read.

    • #3090848

      Two answers here, please read both

      by deadly ernest ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      1. My favourite fiction is – political election promises.

      2. My favorite reading, once I get beyond the Cambell era SciFi authors like Niven, Azimov and Heinlein are

      Ann McCaffery – all her stuff Pern Dragons, Brain and Brawn ships, Freedom Series, Tower and Hive, the lot

      Dick Webber – The Honour Harrington series is marvellous, go to the Baen website and you can download a copy of the first book in the series for free to give it a try, then go out and buy all the series – most people do. That’s why the freebie – get you hooked.

      Elizabeth Moon – The Serano series is is nice light reading.

      I also love the historical mystery novels by Peter Tremayne, Ellis Peters, and Lindsay Davis.

      Oh, and Enid Blyton does some nice light reading as well, lol.

    • #3090847

      Fiction

      by ttatum ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Hello Neil! I’m a marginal technologist, as a media specialist in a public school in the US–Georgia. But I read some of the TechRepublic articles with interest, and your post caught my eye.

      Have you read any Dean Koontz? “Odd Thomas” is one you might enjoy, and there’s a brand-new sequel to it out.

      Also, not fantasy or sci-fi, David Baldacci’s books are great. “Saving Faith” is one of my all-time favorites.

      Tommy

    • #3090846

      Stuff for Neil

      by wt24 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      2 ‘oldies’ sci-fi Mote in God’s Eye Niven/Prounelle. Childhoods End Arthur C. Clarke. In different genre (long) Foucault’s Pendulum Umberto Eco. Gift of Unknown Things Lyall Watson. Manual for Spaceship Earth Buckminster Fuller. (short)

      More if you need ’em and like these.

      William

    • #3090844

      Old Books

      by cherie_carter ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I too am a lover of hard sci-fi becoming more difficult to find most of what I’m seeing is fantasy. Try Greg Bear he writes very good hard sci-fi. Disclaimer I am a bookseller so I am biased towards older books I read them, collect them and sell them. But some of them are good, some are funny when compared with todays books but interesting. My new favorite are the anti-catholic books written during the mid 19th century mild to virulent. Than there are the the crazy people like L. W. De Laurence, Master Adept & Famous Occult Magician by Alchemy & Fire. Far from being a Master Adept at anything Dr. L. W. De Laurence, was a publisher from Chicago who plagiarized other authors by publishing their works as his own. Okay now the plug because I am a bookseller and can not help myself. Amazon is great and I do sell newer books there but if you have a few minutes check out my site at http://www.pecantreebooks.com.

    • #3090838

      Stephen King

      by paqofu ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Stephen King’s long series called the Gunslinger, is a part of the Dark Tower story, part western, part phantasy, part psi-phi.
      One of the best works I’ve ever read!
      Check it out!

    • #3090810

      Great trilogy by Ted Dekker

      by shnolan ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Try Black, Red and White (that’s the three titles in the trilogy) by Ted Dekker. It mixes an amazing fantasy world with real world sci-fi. Highly recommended!

    • #3090775

      A Razor’s Edge by W. Somerset Mougham

      by squaredge ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Forgive me for not reading every post to see if this was already included. There have been two movies made of this story. I have read this twice and watched both movies. The second movie stars Bill Murray. It’s a great story about a man on a spiritual journey. It’s about a kid who volunteers for the ambulance corps in WWI Belgium… It goes from there.

    • #3090761

      Sorry if these have been mentioned before

      by robert.t.moss ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I don’t have time right now to wade through all the posts.
      Jack Chalker – Well World series
      Fred Saberhagen – The Dracula Tapes and sequels
      Fred Saberhagen – Lost Swords series

    • #3090758

      Favorite books

      by elkgrovelady ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      In answer to your question, I only read mysteries. My favorite authors are: James Patterson, John Lescroart, Lee Child, James Grippando, Robert Crais, Michael Connelly, Perri O’Shaughnessy, Harlan Coben, James Siegel. They are excellent writers. I hope you try them. You can find a lot of these books on eBay. Good reading, London neighbor!

    • #3090756

      James Clavell

      by patrokov ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      If you like historical Fiction, I highly recommend James Clavell. Just be aware that he doesn’t seem to know how to end a book, so the endings seem somewhat abrupt and unsatisfying. But everything in between is pure pleasure.

      For fantasy, Raymond Feist and Katherine Kurtz are favorites.

      • #3132766

        My old Professor

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to James Clavell

        was a personal friend of Clavell’s. I’ve got some signed copies. Alas, no first editions.

    • #3090753

      new author – sci-fi / mystery – excellent

      by jeff ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Check out
      “Blind Traveler Down a Dark River”
      by Robert P. Bennett.

      This sci-fi mystery takes you into the life of an everyday guy who happens to be blind and makes his way through the world using a device which feeds him sounds identifying his location and objects around him. One day a problem with the system causes it to describe what’s going on a few blocks away. Now it’s not magic – describing a scene with sound is not like seeing so of course the details are fuzzy and initially it’s just confusing. Gradually though he realizes he has witnessed a murder. The police don’t believe him ( a blind man who claims to witness a murder when he was’t even there ), so he needs to investigate himself.

      I think you’ll find this to be fun, easy reading and very interesting. The technology is actual real technology currently in prototype use
      see – http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/pgs/main.htm
      The story is well researched and gives a good sense about what it may be like to be a blind man in a sighted world – as well as both the benefits and the limitations of technology which may be just around the corner.

      This is the author’s first novel, but he has written articles frequently for newspapers and magazines often focused on disability issues, people who have striven despite obstacles, new technology which is available for enabling access to the world, and problems the disabled may face in living in an able bodied world.

      If you are interested you can read more about the novel at
      http://www.enablingwords.com/traveler.htm

      OK – I am prejudice – I’m the author’s brother, but don’t let that stop you. I think you’ll find “Blind Traveler Down a Dark River” a really good read.

      As for getting the book in London – I think Amazon UK carries it, but you can also order a copy by mail or electronic download from the author.

    • #3090752

      OK I know’s it’s kid stuff, but they are still good reads

      by theoriginalnsr ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Hi Neil, one of my all time favourites is ‘The Silver Sword’ by Ian Serraillier. I also think ‘Gullivers Travels’ by Dean Swift, is a totally different book when you read it as an ‘Adult’, very satirical, and any of Nicholas Montsarrats’ stories about Royal Navy corvettes and deystroyers during WWII, in fact most of Montsarrats works are very enjoyable.
      Ray W

    • #3090750

      Here’s a couple…

      by caliburn42 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Hey Neil,

      Try the Summertree series by Guy Gavriel Kay or his newer one “The Last Light of the Sun” (actually pretty much anything he writes)also “Perdido Street Station” by China Mieville is excellent for hard core sci-fi/fantasy. Another unusual sci-fi/fantasy is called “Dhalgren” don’t recall the authors name and is hard to find, but well worth the search.

      For Abstract realism anything by Gavrial Garcia Marques, my personal favourite. Also Look for “The Shadow of the Wind” by Carlos Ruiz Zafon. Let me know if you like any of them.

      Cheers

      cal

    • #3090749

      The Real Science Fiction, Not Fantasy

      by slspeidel2 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I recommend “The Heart of the Comet,” by Gregory Benford and David Brin. The story contains a direction for computer science – making tools and robotics that increase the survivability of the human species.

    • #3090745

      Elizabeth Moon

      by oldboydave ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Hi,

      One of my favorite authors is Elizabeth Moon, so
      almost any book by her is a must read for me.
      Amazon just announced “Herris Serrano” which contains 3 or 4 of her books in a single edition.
      These books represent the first of a series.
      Followed by “Once a Hero”, “Rules of Engagement”,
      “Change of Command”, etc. (I’m not sure of the
      sequence of the last two).

      Dave

    • #3090742

      American Classics

      by gometrics ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Books by Mark Twain, Kurt Vonegut, J.D. Salinger

    • #3090740

      What is your favourite fiction?

      by hblueknight ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      try Robert Parker, The Jesse Stone novels. Parker is the author of the “Spencer for hire”
      the old TV show with Robert Urick (RIP) The show was based on the books.

    • #3090734

      a good source

      by pj-inva ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      For science fiction go to http://www.allscifi.com and search for something to read. It will suggest books based on what you like and provides a summary of each book.

    • #3090728

      Here are some of my favorite Sci-Fi series Authors

      by boogaloodude ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The series I’ve been going thru lately is by Robert Jordan, “The Wheel of Time” series, it’s a very compelling series, and well written, the only (small) thing that bothers me about Jordans writing is the fact that every 500 page installment in the series could actually be shortened by about 40-50 pages, if he wouldn’t spend so damn much time describing, in detail, every characters Wardrobe. I’ve heard from others that say he’s simply into details, and others who feel exactly the way I do. Another (small) drawback, is the fact that he only releases 1 book per year, it’s his marketing plan, even if he has 2 or 3 waiting in the can, it’s always 1 per year, and he lets you know the exact date of the release months ahead of time. If his books weren’t some of the best sci-fi fantasy’s I wouldn’t care, but they are, I actully enjoy them more then the Thomas Covenant series of books, and the First and Third in that series are some of the best writing I’d read at the time. Hope this helps, I’ve got a couple of dozen more suggestions when I have the time, I’ll send them out. Cody
      P.S. I just noticed the reference to Terry Pratchett, and I have to agree, it’s Excellent writing, with a good dose of M.Python, all put together as another very compelling series of Fantasy and Mirth, and whats best about Terry, is that he cares very little about what his characters are wearing.lol

    • #3090722

      Another good book

      by arierobb ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Hi Neil,

      One of the best book’s I’ve ever read is Green rider by Kirsten Britain.
      The follow-up is ok as well.
      Enjoy.

      Regards,
      Arie.

      • #3090683

        Has no one mentioned….?

        by hokikid ·

        In reply to Another good book

        “Two years after I killed Blyth, I murdered my younger brother Paul, for quite different and more fundamental reasons than I’d disposed of Blyth, and then a year after that I did for my young cousin Esmeralda, more or less on a whim.That’s my score to date. Three. I havn’t killed anyone for years,and I don’t intend to ever again. It was just a stage I was going through.”…..from his quite brilliant first novel, The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks and his books got better and more startling post 1984, IMHO

        Cheers

    • #3090681

      Miscellaneous

      by jevans4949 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      In the Sci-Fi domain, I don’t think anybody’s mentioned John Wyndham yet – Day of the Triffids, and others.

      Have you read George Orwell’s 1984? Have you noticed how many CCTV cameras there are around these days?

      Recently read Dan (“Da Vinci Code”) Brown’s “Digital Fortress”. Quite a good read, whether or not you want to believe the story line.

      “Shardik”, by Richard Adams (author of “Watership Down”). This is probably classified as fantasy, and explores the nature of religion in politics.

      Many of John Le Carre’s spy novels are interesting in that the explore the psychological nature of the spy. E.g. “The Night Manager” and “A Perfect Spy”.

    • #3090677

      Favourite/Favorite

      by smsarge ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      “Word of Honor” by Nelson DeMille.

    • #3090674

      Chung-Kuo Series…

      by saintgeorge ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      and then one of my best friends can’t have enough Turtledove’s Vydessos Cycle and Krispos series.

    • #3090663

      Here’s something nice

      by doc.two9 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Check out this site. You can get lots of nice sci-fi short stories to either copy and paste or download for you reading enjoyment.
      (Sorry I didn’t add the link-)

      http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/sci-fiindex.html

    • #3090661

      Books

      by travisdhahn ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      It’s not fiction – but Blink by Malcom Gladwell is a real interesting read…

      • #3090608

        Reply To: What is your favourite fiction?

        by cls70 ·

        In reply to Books

        The Tipping Point is also really interesting

    • #3090658

      Here’s something nice-AGAIN!!

      by doc.two9 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Check out this site. You can get lots of nice sci-fi short stories to either copy and paste or download for you reading enjoyment.
      (Sorry I didn’t add the link before-)

      http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/sci-fiindex.html

    • #3090657

      favourite fiction

      by jjulian1009 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      G’day Neil,
      Best classic novels: In American setting “The Great Gatsby” by F. Scott Fitzgerald; in European setting “The Sun Also Rises” (aka “Fiesta”) by Hemingway; for Asian setting “The Quiet American” by Graham Greene. Best new novel: “Dogs Eat Wolves” by Martin Cruz Smith with same protagonist as his brilliant “Gorky Park” investigating murders mainly in Chernobyl area. Best by a living novelist: “Year of Living Dangerously” by C.J Koch. I assume already know best novels set in UK.
      Enjoy!
      jjulian

    • #3090653

      Something different…

      by m45trkllr ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I’ve always been a big fan of the Dune series. And H.P. Lovecraft has been a favorite of mine. I also recommend Phillip K. Dick. Enjoy >:D

    • #3090614

      my first post

      by wwed ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The Chryalids by John Wyndham
      my all time favorite may be old enough that
      it is hard to find

      • #3090612

        learn to spell

        by wwed ·

        In reply to my first post

        Chrysalids

    • #3090611

      Some missing titles/Authors

      by gregk ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Elizabeth Moon She’s been mentioned, but not the Paksenarrion trilogy – Well worth the read. I think this is her best work.
      Charles de Lint. Almost anything. Start with Moonheart.
      Peter Tremayne – Sister Fidelma series. In real life he is a historian specializing in dark ages ireland so the background is authentic. Oddly, his real name is Peter Ellis, & Ellis Peters wrote the Cadfael series mentioned elsewhere
      Mary Stewart – the Arthurian trilogy
      Tami Hoag – Gritty Detective stories
      Mo Hayder – Tokyo ( based in the reality of the Nanking massacre – very disturbing. It needs to be a morning read so you have the day to get over it.)
      RF Delderfield – light historical WW1-2 period
      Bernard Cornwell. So far I have Gallows Thief & Grail Quest series. both gripping, but I found quite a few inaccuracies in Grail Quest
      SF seems to have been covered pretty well, though I don’t recall seeing Harry Harrison (Deathworld, SSRat), Fred Hoyle (Black Cloud) or Fred Pohl
      Ursula Le Guin – esp. Earthsea Cycle. Some of her later books are a bit weird.
      Wilbur Smith has been mentioned. I’ll second the motion
      Bill Shakespeare – anything at all.

    • #3090610

      Jonathan Lethem

      by cls70 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Lethem only has three or four books that I know of but he is really entertaining. “Gun, with occasional music” invokes Raymond Chandler while still being really good Sci-Fi…

      Definately an author to check out

    • #3253006

      Don Simmons Rocks!

      by kaynewyoung ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Read Illium and then the newly released Olympos
      GREAT DEEP HARD SCI FI reading
      Could not put it down.

    • #3253003

      Robert Jordan

      by ecositsupport ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The Wheel of Time Series would be a good choice.

      One of my all time favorites is

      Battle Circle
      by Piers Anthony

    • #3252996

      I see that nobody has recommended

      by absolutely ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      the Bible. I think it is very plodding, pointless, uninteresting fiction, but I also think it’s ironic that none of the people who claim that the Bible guides their own lives and should also guide US law have found any reason to recommend reading it on its merits. Of course, it has none.

      • #3101919

        Whoa, What are you calling Uninteresting?

        by boogaloodude ·

        In reply to I see that nobody has recommended

        Your telling me that the bible is uninteresting fiction!! Considering the fact that it came out centuries before L. Ron Hubbards “Dianetics” It’s probably the best sci-fi fantasy of it’s time, Burning Bushes, People Turning to Salt, Pygmys Defeating Giants, Curing Herpies, Hey it doesn’t get any better then that! And on top of that, There’s a Freddie Kreuger type who can’t be killed, and rules in a dream-type Hell of a world..All of the action, and all of the catholic guilt!! Of course it took a colaboration of over a dozen writers, Yet Frank Herbert did it all by himself!!

        • #3102566

          In the sense that it’s all physically impossible…

          by absolutely ·

          In reply to Whoa, What are you calling Uninteresting?

          the Bible qualifies as sci-fi. But in terms of quality plot construction, unifying theme, plausible actions of characters (granted we suspend our disbelief on the issue of the deus ex machina!), the Bible, as literature, is trash.

          Nobody recommended it for enjoyment, did they?

    • #3252964

      Good Sci Fi & stuff

      by flat _earth ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Peter F Hamilton ” Night’s dawn” Trilogy
      Pandoraa’s Star & Judas Unchained

      Stephen Baxter “Phase space”

      Walter Jon Williams “The Praxis”

      Steven Strogatz “Sync” Not Sci Fi but amazing!

      Enjoy

      Simon

    • #3252931

      Fiction faves

      by griffin_lucille ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I have quite a few authors in mind for your Amazon search: C.E. Murphy (Urban Shaman), L.A. Banks (Vampire Huntress Legend), Mercedes Lackey and Larry Dixon (Chrome Borne), Jim Butcher (Codex Alera), Jacqueline Carey (Kushiel’s Legacy),anything by Dave Freer, most things by Eric Roberts, anything by Anne Bishop or Anne McCaffrey, anything by Marion Zimmer Bradley , Julian May and Andre Norton. You might enjoy the Weather Waden series by Rachel Caine, but then again, some people find a smart mouth leading lady an irritant (Thank God I don’t suffer from that problem). That’s all I can think of for now. Happy reading!

      • #3132746

        Also by Mercedes Lackey – The ‘Valdemar Series’

        by allan.micksch ·

        In reply to Fiction faves

        You might start with “Queen’s Own”.

    • #3252889

      Belgariad or Harry Potter

      by dhansen2000 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      David Eddings and all the Harry Potters are my favorites. Happy reading.

    • #3252873

      Some books I liked

      by dnsb ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      If you liked Horatio Hornblower, you might also like David Weber’s Honor Harrington series. A sci fi version of Hornblower. Hmmm… Eric Flint (and others) with the 1632 series, Eric Flint’s Mother of Demons, John Ringo’s Posleen series, Rick Cook’s Wizardy series. David Weber and John Ringo’s March series. You can check out some of these at the Baen Books Free Library site http://www.baen.com/library/. Recently re-read Lois McMaster Bujold’s Vorkosigan series after I was given a copy of the combined reissue of Shards Of Honor and Barrayar as Cordelia’s Honor.

      Otherwise, been re-reading some old Rumpole favourites, Agatha Christie’s Miss Marple mysteries, some of J.D. Robb’s In Death series though these are more that the XYL collects them. Also add P.G. Wodehouse to the recently re-read authors (Leave It To Psmith and Summer Lightning) along with Thorne Smith (The Nightlife of the Gods and The Bishop’s Jaegers).

      Finished Thud a few weeks back and am waiting for Terry’s next book. Just hope that he and Neil Gaiman don’t do the sequel to Good Omens that has been rumoured.

      Hmmmm…. been looking back at this list and perhaps I am addicted to the printed work as some friends of mine have claimed.

    • #3252847

      A must!

      by avinesan ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I’d recommend David Gemmel or the Eddings couple but too much becomes a bit monotonous.
      My personal favourite gotta to be Warcraft(War of the Ancients trilogy) by Richard A. Knaak.
      I know Blizzard rocks!
      The read is totally awesome especially if you dig magics.

      • #3132500

        Lots of Gemmel

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to A must!

        I got onto DG at the beginnning of this thread.

        Thanks for the reply.

    • #3252842

      Neil Gaiman

      by deesy58 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Have you read any of Neil Gaiman’s books? Especially “American Gods”? He’s one heck of a writer!

    • #3252812

      I agree…but

      by jignacio999 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The list is fine for me. Just I will take out Mervyn Peake (too convoluted and bizarre) and change for David Eddings, Belgariad (I love happy endings!)

    • #3252779

      In a Sci-Phi vein…

      by lightning joe ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      That’s as in “philosophy”…

      One of my all time favorites is “The Dispossessed”, by Ursula K. LeGuin. It’s well-written, and appeals to my utopian bent.

      The premise is a society that’s been “exiled” to a habitable moon, in order to end a socialist rebellion on the parent planet. The social philosophy of the experimental society is that all resources are shared in common among all members of the society; hence the title.

      The main character, Shevek, is a mathematical einstein, and is invited to the parent planet for a speaking tour, and so we have the setting for cultural contrasts.

      This is one of those books that i buy a copy of every time i see it, because i keep giving them away to friends and acquaintances.

      Another on my give-away list, for somewhat similar reasons, though it isn’t fiction, but more straight pop philosophy, is called “Das Energi”, and i’ll just let you find out about that one for yourself.

    • #3252770

      Great book

      by smorks ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Try “The Stars My Destination” by Alfred Bester. It’s old, and appears in several anthologies, but great. I can’t imagine why this hasn’t been made a movie. The images painted by his words are better, I think. It won’t disappoint. As an aside, get noise-cancelling headphones. Only problem, you may miss your stop. Your books will get more immersive.

    • #3252698

      Favourite Fiction

      by keith ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I’m a reading commuter too, and get through an awful
      lot of books. Why not try some Ian McEwan (“Enduring
      Love”, “Atonement” , – and latest and best: “Saturday”).
      Or some John Irvine (“A Prayer for Owen Meany”,
      “Cider House Rules”…..and lots more). Favourite book
      by female author: Margaret Attwood – ‘The Blind
      Assassin’. For some ‘off the wall’ stuff: ‘Life of Pi’, ‘Star of
      the Sea’, ‘The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-
      time” (can’t remember the authors’ names!)

    • #3132770

      Hyperion

      by nancyr ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The whole Hyperion series… by Dan Simmons. I liked Hyperion itself best, but he followed it up with The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion, and Rise of Endymion. Brilliant Sci-fi.\
      Michael Bishop’s Transfigurations. Most of Michale Bishop’s books are pretty good, but that one was the best.
      Re: American authors, if you haven’t read anything by Faulker or F. Scott Fitzgerald, you owe it to yourself to do so, even if you aren’t crazy about them. The writing, if not the subject matter, is excellent, and definitely “American.”
      If you’re into such things, the FIRST (and ONLY the first) Anne Rice Novel, Interview with the Vampire, is worth the read. The rest is trash.
      Ok, there is my 2 pence. 🙂

      • #3132514

        Great Books!

        by deesy58 ·

        In reply to Hyperion

        Yeah … the Hyperion series were great books. Dan Simmons is a hell of an author.

        • #3102624

          Is this the…

          by boogaloodude ·

          In reply to Great Books!

          Is this the series with the Shrike (Shryke?)

        • #3102622

          Yes!

          by nancyr ·

          In reply to Is this the…

          It is!

        • #3102449

          Thanks for the reply

          by boogaloodude ·

          In reply to Yes!

          Has Simmons come out with any other worthwhile books? My friend told me a lot about the Hyperion series, but never mentioned anything about any of his other works. Cody

      • #3101559

        and my 2 cents is…

        by cedarlakesplash ·

        In reply to Hyperion

        Agree with the Rice comment except for The Vampire Lestat…loved the character!!

    • #3132765

      Ken Follett :: Pillars of the Earth

      by psstarkey ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Set in 12th-century England, the narrative concerns the building of a cathedral in the fictional town of Kingsbridge. The ambitions of three men merge, conflict and collide through 40 years of social and political upheaval as internal church politics affect the progress of the cathedral and the fortunes of the protagonists.

      A radical departure from Follett’s novels of international suspense and intrigue, this chronicles the vicissitudes of a prior, his master builder, and their community as they struggle to build a cathedral and protect themselves during the tumultuous 12th century, when the empress Maud and Stephen are fighting for the crown of England after the death of Henry I. The plot is less tightly controlled than those in Follett’s contemporary works, and despite the wealth of historical detail, especially concerning architecture and construction, much of the language as well as the psychology of the characters and their relationships remains firmly rooted in the 20th century. This will appeal more to lovers of exciting adventure stories than true devotees of historical fiction. Literary Guild dual main selection.

    • #3132665

      Sea Adventure

      by 1ieengle ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Neil,

      Have you read the Patrick O’Brian series (fiction)? They made one into a movie a few years ago, “Master and Commander”. Set during Napoleon”s wartime quest. Capt. Jack Aubrey is the commander of an English warship and must fight the French and Spanish on the high seas. There is also a book of maps where they go and another with terminology so you are not dumbfounded all the time. There are 20 books in the series and he has a few others. My girlfiend is a smart avid reader and she highly recommends them because he was an excellent writer and there are some funny adventures he was on. When I get time I plan to read them.

    • #3132578

      Favorite Authors

      by thomas moser ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Neil Stephenson – Cryptonomicon, Diamond Age, Snow Crash

      Lawrence Block – Matthew Scudder series (mystery / detective)

      Bill Bryson – (Travel, History, non-fiction)

      Robert K. Tannenbaum – Ciampi and Karp series (mystery / detective)

      Stephen J Cannell – King Con and Final Victim are good

      Katherine Hall-Page (Mystery / Cooking)

      Dan Brown

      Nevada Barr (Mystery / Park Rangers)

      Stephen J Gould – (Natural History)

      John McPhee – (Amazing Essayist also Geography)

      Robert Parker (mystery / detective – all dialog quick read)

      Anthony Bourdain – Kitchen Confidential

    • #3101996

      Ender’s Game – Orson Scott Card

      by rebecca.buffington ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I haven’t read SciFi in years, but I remember Ender’s Game really got my attention. I believe the series is up to 5 books now, and a movie is in the works.

      Another favorite of mine was Macroscope by Piers Anthony. Not a series, that I know of and pretty old. But a great read if you can keep up with all the symbolism.

      • #3101118

        Orson Scott Card

        by dnsb ·

        In reply to Ender’s Game – Orson Scott Card

        You might want to check his Alvin Maker series as well. One warning though is that while I liked this series, it reminded me of reading CS Lewis in that his religious beliefs show through the stories. This may not be your cuppa.

    • #3101225

      Isac Asimov

      by 3xp3rt ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      My favorite writer is Isaac Asimov, so I suggest to you read all his books. There are books of him what I readied for even 10 times. Also I like very much the Arthur C, Clark?s books. He is one other author what I recommend.

    • #3101206

      Here are a few military fiction as well

      by mramsden ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      You might try:
      Dudley Pope’s Lord Ramage series,
      Bernard Cornwell’s Grail Quest series,
      Tom Clancy’s Jack Ryan series,
      Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time series,
      WEB Griffin’s Brotherhood of War & The Corps series’
      Harold Coyle’s Scott Dixon series
      Alexander Kent’s Richard Bolitho series
      Charles D. Taylor’s Admiral Charles series

      Hope there is enough ‘ammunition’ for you.

      • #3102844

        Grail Quest a good read but….

        by gregk ·

        In reply to Here are a few military fiction as well

        Cornwell’s accuracy leaves a lot to be desired.
        You would think that an historic fiction writer with a central character of an archer would get the archery right at least.
        In book three he takes a couple of pages to describe his hero maing a new bow to replace his old one. He takes a bough (branch) from a wild yew tree, and quickly shapes it while still green (and seals it to keep it that way) in the space of an afternoon. He is then amazed at its power & accuracy.
        The reality is completely different.

        A yew bow is (and was! – refer Toxophilus written in 1545 by Queen Elizabeth 1′ master archer) made from a carefully dried bole (the trunk not a branch) of a plantation grown (yes even then!) yew tree. It is shaped over over a period of months to years, allowing it to equilibrate after each operation. Then it is carefully brought to full weight and draw by tillering
        At best the bow described by Cornwell would be suitable as a child’s toy. At worst, it would snap on first draw, possibly killing the archer in the process..

    • #3101143

      books to consider

      by zx2zx ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      David/Leigh Eddings
      – fantasy
      -has several series though my favorite character is Belgarion

      Terry Goodkind
      -Sword of Truth series still waiting for his latest

      I hear Orson Scott Card is very good, but have never been a fan of space travel books

    • #3102695

      my 45 min commute

      by dgreen ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Here are two of my latest “listens” (books on tape or cd).
      Dan Brown:
      Angels and Demons
      DaVinci Code
      both give incredible attention to detail and are set in Europe. Great reads (and listens)!

    • #3102660

      Reply To: What is your favourite fiction?

      by norman_neil ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Here are some suggestions from a few of my favourite authors. Google any of them to find out more. Happy reading!

      Neal Stephenson
      – Cryptonomicon
      – The Baroque Cycle (3 volumes)

      Arthur Herman
      – To Rule the Waves : How the British Navy Shaped the Modern World
      – How the Scots Invented the Modern World: The True Story of How Western Europe’s Poorest Nation Created Our World & Everything in It

      Colleen McCullough
      – Morgan’s Run
      – The Grass Crown
      – First Man in Rome

    • #3102601

      Robert Jordan

      by bruce.a.wilkins ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan

      Song of albion series by Steven Lawhead

      Sword of Truth Series by Terry Goodkind

      Terry Brooks Landover series.

    • #3102474

      Anything by Wilbur Smith

      by #1 kenster ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Sorry if someone has already suggested him, did not have the time to read all of the posts. Great writer of action packed historical fiction. Around 30 novels, several series. I really like him. I also love Terry Pratchett and have all his books. I’ve read most of them TWICE, SQUEAK.

    • #3103091

      Good graphic stuff

      by leee ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      – Any of Bendis’ Daredevil trade paperbacks, especially “Underboss,” “The King of Hell’s Kitchen” or “Golden Age” (his run as writer just ended; he left Matt Murdock to rot in prison awaiting trial after his secret identity was made public). Article on it in Salon here:
      http://www.salon.com/books/review/2006/01/05/daredevil/index.html

      – “Y: The Last Man” (mentioned way earlier) is not bad by any means, but every time I read it, Vaughn (the writer) fills every character with such encyclopedic knowledge of history and society I feel like I’m being lectured back in tenth grade civics class.

      – Bendis’ run on “Ultimate Spider-Man” (still ongoing) is an alternate take on Spidey that’s way better than mainstream Spidey has been for almost fifteen years. Teen angst crossed with corporate crime and various Mafioso stories.

      – Any “Sin City” graphic novel (Frank Miller, of course).

      – Mark Millar’s “The Ultimates Vol. 2.” Scottish author Millar uses an alternate take on The Avengers to make a statement about U.S. Imperialism.

    • #3103086

      Favourite Airplane reads

      by tomaaa19 ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Any thing by Tom Clancy, Dale Brown.

      I recently discovered Patricia Cornwell if you like medical/mystery stories. And more recently Cathie Reichs.

      Patricia Cornwell is a Pathologist and Cathie Reichs is a forensic anthropologist.

      Other favourites are the Dune series

    • #3103296

      My Picks

      by boyd.hawkins ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      I like L.E. Modesitt, Jr. – The Recluce Series. I have not read his Corean Chronicles books yet but plan to.
      Terry Brooks the Shannara books. And for humorous fantasy try John Morressy, The Kedrigern Chronicles.
      This is great, I got some ideas for my own reading!
      Thanks
      Boyd

    • #3101561

      Sci-Fi or Adult Fantasy takes me away

      by cedarlakesplash ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      Try a read of John Twelve Hawks “The Traveler”. Print edition was a great read, and the audio version was even better…and saves your eyes for squinting at that monitor.

      EnjoY!!

    • #3003730

      Re-read the Covenant series

      by lakespringer ·

      In reply to What is your favourite fiction?

      My recommendation: re-read Covenant’s six books. I’ve read the first trilogy 7 times now over 20 years, and I’m continually amazed at the quality and what I discover.

      The series brings me to tears, makes me wonder, causes me to pump my fist in support, and most of all makes me think and reflect on what is important in life.

      I find that most books, even good books that I enjoy, are forgotten once read and their central conflict has been resolved. Covenant only gets better as the story becomes more familiar.

      Also, gotta plug Scott Brick’s amazing audio version of the series. You can’t believe one man can convincingly, movingly sound like so many characters.

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