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    Would the real Max please stand up?

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    by oz_media ·

    So who is this masked man who hides behind his computer, answering questions, participating in discussions (even if closed minded)?
    He is a high points achiever (if there is such a thing), a self appointed Forum Moderator (agree with him or else)and what else?
    Sorry to use such a crappy line “Would the real Maxwell Edison please stand up” I HATE EMINEM!! Too much commercial bs and zero talent, but that’s another RANT! So, why don’t you share your experiences and opinions toward the great Mr. Edison and his broad minded, professional debating abilities. (Somehow, I think the most posts will be from Mr.Edison himself).

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    • #3357945

      I respect Mr Edison

      by thechas ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      While Max and I often disagree when it comes to political issues, I truly respect and admire him as an individual.

      His opinions are researched and well reasoned.

      I have yet to see a political related posting that does not include links to back-up material.

      I seldom have any factual basis to refute Max’s conclusions.

      Max has his high points because his skills as an IT administrator are second to none.

      If anything, my points come from persistence, and a desire to help and learn.I do hope to meet Maxwell in person some day.
      So long as we keep the discussion away from politics.

      Chas

    • #3357378
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      Actually I like Max as well

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      He always gives some backup material which is even sometimes what he proportes it to be and sometimes says something different if you actually have the time to read all of what he supplies.

      He does submit to the Q&A section in a very big way and from my observations is of a great help to quite a few people so he has his good side.

      As far as his political views go I don’t agree with him but I will fight to the death to allow him to have his opinion as it is his right and I do actually enjoy some of his postings especially when he attacks me as it makes me think and provide a better answer which isn’t what he want’s to see or hear but’s again thats his right.

      But the one thing that I can’t understand is how he has so much time to doall that he does at TR and still hold down a full time job but I suspose that he is simply brilliant so I can learn a lot from him even if I do tend to disagree with some of his views but these are mainly of the political variety so theres no big deal there anyway.

      Now isn’t this going to upset poor old Max that I actually like him.

      • #3357301

        Read again

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Actually I like Max as well

        No I didn’t try to discredit Mr. Edison, read it again, then read it again.
        I also didn’t say that Mr. Edison ‘needed a brain’ (Very witty Max, I’ll write it down).

        People seem to read one line from a post, form an opinion (similar to evryone elses if you actualy read them)and rant defensively. This defensive and misunderstood way of thinking causes one country to go to war against another.

        People need to spend more time thinking about WHY people say things and WHAT they are saying.

        Mr. Edison has been a great help to many people in this site and is an asset to what has got to be one of the top ten tech support sites on the net. I didn’t discredit Mr. Edison for his achievements, nor did I say he was dumb. To which his rebuttal is “get a brain?”, (again, well said, I can forgive ignorance before stupidity). We are both entitled to our political views as are all of you. Just don’t jump on the “Me too” bandwagon, it is a conformist’s weakness that only governments benefit from.

        Everyone rants about free speech and the right to voice YOUR opinion, so voice it, don’t just join the masses. This can be seen at any race track and costs ‘the sheep’ lots of money, just ask a jockey. Who do you think creates a long shot? Sheep of course.

        This forum usually poses decent questions, unlike this post, and I respect almost everyone’s opinion when formed individually.

        It is interesting to see nothing but negative thought processes so close to the end of the Iraqi takeover(sorry, The Free Iraq campaign). Maybe some Americans do have a valid opinion but are simply scared to voice it due to fear of non-conformity.

        Just keep in mind, when the rest of the world doesn’t agree with the US, it doesn’t make them unpatriotic, backstabbers. It is simply another voice to be heard, just don’t forget to listen nect time.

        • #3359032
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          Do you mean this posting to apply to me?

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Read again

          I’ve read all 3 postings again and again and I’ve even gone to the trouble of printing them all out just to make sure that I didn’t overlook something.

          I’m sorry but I must be stupid or something as I don’t understand most of your posting particuarly the bit about getting a brain as there was no reference to this in my posting in any conceivable way. Sorry but I’m just lost at the entire posting as I don’t understand it in relation to what I have posted but then again I must be stupid or it doesn’t apply to what I said but I don’t know which it is.

          Most of the regular TR contributers will agree with me that Max and I don’t often agree on anything not related to a technical nature even Max would have to agree on this, but there is no way that I’ve said anything like what you have posted to my responce. I can only surmise that it was intended for another link.

          But if it wasn’t please enlighten me as I would really like to understand.

        • #3359031
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          Do you mean this posting to apply to me?

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Read again

          I’ve read all 3 postings again and again and I’ve even gone to the trouble of printing them all out just to make sure that I didn’t overlook something.

          I’m sorry but I must be stupid or something as I don’t understand most of your posting particuarly the bit about getting a brain as there was no reference to this in my posting in any conceivable way. Sorry but I’m just lost at the entire posting as I don’t understand it in relation to what I have posted but then again I must be stupid or it doesn’t apply to what I said but I don’t know which it is.

          Most of the regular TR contributers will agree with me that Max and I don’t often agree on anything not related to a technical nature even Max would have to agree on this, but there is no way that I’ve said anything like what you have posted to my responce. I can only surmise that it was intended for another link.

          But if it wasn’t please enlighten me as I would really like to understand.

    • #3357370

      The Real Oz Man is a Little Man

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      There are some messages that just suck me in and demand a reply from me. The following is one such message.

      http://www.techrepublic.com/forumdiscuss/thread_detail.jhtml?thread_id=126074&message_id=759324

      Or (For those who don’t know how to remove the space that magically appears in pasted URLs.)

      http://tinyurl.com/b72i

      I guess I got the Oz man a little ruffled under his chicken feathers.

      If the man from Oz only had a brain, not only would he have refrained from posting sucha message (the same message could have had a different delivery), but he also should have expected that it would undoubtedly stir up some emotional replies. Sure, you have the right to your opinion – even if it’s different than mine – and you can express that opinion however, whenever, and wherever you please. But I, in turn, should be afforded the same consideration. I’ve conversed with quite a few fine folks with whom I’ve disagreed. And yes, there have been enough jabs thrown around here to deflate a punching bag. But most people have been man enough to take it for what it really was. Too bad you don’t fit into that category, as you seem to be the first one knocked to the canvas by such jabs.

      (continued…)

      • #3357367

        The Little Oz Man – Continued

        by maxwell edison ·

        In reply to The Real Oz Man is a Little Man

        It seems that the man from Oz is really 3 characters all wrapped into one – the scarecrow without a brain, the cowardly lion, and the tin man without a heart. I can’t recall another message thread started with the specific intention toattack someone. But I’m a big boy. I can take it. So have your fun, try to get your jabs, and give it your best shot. But be advised, I’m confident enough with myself to take whatever you (or anyone) can throw, and it won’t affect me in the least.

        As you so eloquently showed in the above referenced message, you really don’t know your ass from your elbow. (Go ahead, Julian. Feel free to post it.) Moreover, if you even had a clue as to who or what I really was, and if you were really interested in knowing more, then you would have known that all you would have to do is send me an email and ask.

        But oh well, whatever toots your horn. I hope you get the kind of replies you’re hoping for. (But this will be the last one from me.) And who knows, you just might. You’re not the first one to get bent out of shape because of what I’ve said.

        Keep it up, Oz man. You’re showing your true colors – and they ain’t pretty.

      • #3359276

        You have an admirer, i’m jealous

        by lordinfidel ·

        In reply to The Real Oz Man is a Little Man

        I never got one of those.

        I guess i’ve just been too nice lately.
        Maybe I should start pissing people off again.

        ya know though, this is one of the exact reasons why I have tried to stay away from the politcal postings here. Just too inflammatory, not very productive. Mostky sensless US bashing and our imperialistic ways.

        Ya know what, I say screw it, bomb them all……
        Hell it’s not like I care about their point of view anyways.

        (I was going to read the post you referenced, but I took one look at it and I knew I saw it already on Hardball and Al-Jeezera. Not a big fan of the repeats)

    • #3357357

      I think you need to re-evaluate

      by mallardtooxx ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      There are few things on this forum that I will not condone. I have started my fair share of battles and I have never been afraid to speak my mind. Oz you have just done something I cannot condone. It is one thing to attack someone inside the context of a thread; that is expected. But to call someone out on a thread meant to bash that very person? That is weak.
      Max has been a tireless advocate of TR and its people. He has done many good things for many people and has never asked for anything in return. I understand that he can be vehememnt about his beliefs, that is not being close minded, that is drawing a line and defending that position. I admire Max for this he is a top shelf contributor and a staunch supporter of the United States and her citizenry. I myself will not always agree with his view, nor he with mine, that is the right of a forum that is a forum and that is what debate is all about. Anyone that would bash max has most likely gotten their ass handed to them by him. As you see here his primary target in the last 3 months, Colin, has even come to his defense. That should tell you something. I too would like to meet him in person some day and I am not afraid to discuss anything with him, I think I can holdmy own.

      The only thing this thread will accomplish is to get people to admit that Max is not a bad guy. SO since you have had your ass handed to you by max I can only think this was an attempt to hand him his. I think you will find this will not work as you planned.

      -duck

    • #3357336

      I was born in Guyana!

      by areets ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      Having been layed off because I pride myself, in respect to technology on definition and sustain support and the need to offer effecive & supportive educational platforms. I prefer to frame with explicitness the idea or story on play. I do have defined ideas and concepts but it has only been my objectiveness that has allowed me to acquire the knowledge and skills that I demonstrate to you. I am in reality they most “non closed individual” you’ll probably ever meet. I cannot go to the bar and chat with just anyone. So, the Intenet is my key to present intellecttual survival since I like to communicate.

      I love to discuss and a great passion for the ICT sector. Without the face, precision is a necessity to drive the discussion forward in ahealthy way.

      If you have something to say bring it forward, the aim must be to conclude. That conclution cannot always be black or white.

      TSP

    • #3357334

      The wrong in Max

      by cactus pete ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      Here’s what I believe is wrong about Max:

      He doesn’t care enough about his blood pressure.

      He won’t let the idiots bury themselves, he has to keep loaning them new shovels, with upgrade protection to backhoes.

      He should care more for his eyesight and stop staring at the monitor. [Insert blink NOW]

      And for a good note:

      Max is analagous to his beloved USA in that he stands tall, and takes more shots because of it.

    • #3357296

      I’ll do a Max and POST to my own POST

      by oz_media ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      No I didn’t try to discredit Mr. Edison, read it again, then read it again.
      I also didn’t say that Mr. Edison ‘needed a brain’ (Very witty Max, I’ll write it down).

      People seem to read one line from a post, form an opinion (similar to evryone elses if you actualy read them)and rant defensively. This defensive and misunderstood way of thinking causes one country to go to war against another.

      People need to spend more time thinking about WHY people say things and WHAT they are saying.
      Mr. Edison has been a great help to many people in this site and is an asset to what has got to be one of the top ten tech support sites on the net. I didn’t discredit Mr. Edison for his achievements, nor did I say he was dumb. To which his rebuttal is “get a brain?”, (again, well said, I can forgive ignorance before stupidity). We are both entitled to our political views as are all of you. Just don’t jump on the “Me too” bandwagon, it is a conformist’s weakness that only governments benefit from.

      Everyone rants about free speech and the right to voice YOUR opinion, so voice it, don’t just join the masses. This can be seen at any race track and costs ‘the sheep’ lots of money, just ask a jockey. Who do you think creates a long shot? Sheep of course.

      This forum usually poses decent questions, unlike this post, and I respect almost everyone’s opinion when formed individually.

      It is interesting to see nothing but negative thought processes so close to the end of the Iraqi takeover(sorry, The Free Iraq campaign). Maybe some Americans do have a valid opinion but are simply scared to voice it due to fear of non-conformity.

      Just keep in mind, when the rest of the world doesn’t agree with the US, it doesn’t make them unpatriotic, backstabbers. It is simply another voice to be heard, just don’t forget to listen next time.

    • #3357270

      If I may!

      by areets ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      I have posted my feelings in regards to my lay-off on TR. I am documenting so many ideas and concepts that I cannot always stay ahead. The Internet is the world re-created (opinionated). So you can apply the same rules but only similar by nature. Sothat that is now virtual for me.

      If I can, I?ll help. Let?s keep an open mind.

      By the way, for the doubters, I am 35. Go to Google.com and search ?Reets Andrew?. Yes, that?s I, not the dove :-). I can tell you that combining sport and the speed at which I like to assimilate info. (Within my capabilities), truly helps acceleration.

      TSP

    • #3357225

      From The Fro – Part 1 of 2

      by mrafrohead ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      I read the original post, then I even read it again just to humor OZ…

      To start:

      “So, why don’t you share your experiences and opinions toward the great Mr. Edison and his broad minded, professional debating abilities.”

      You say that we’re all falling in line, though what you asked for we are providing… So, please further explain what it is that you are asking for.

      Are you upset because those above have posted their support for such a strong asset to this community??? Or were you hoping that all of us would bad mouth Mr. Edison and jump on YOUR bandwagon???

      Personally, I can say this much. When I first started to read Maxwells posts. I thought he was an arrogant jerk. Then I REALLY started to pay attention to what it was that he had to say. I began to realize that at time, yes he can be arrogant, but he’s not a jerk. He’s actually quite an admirable man. I strive to grow and develop many of the qualities that he has.

      Not only will he debate his point, but he will also give fact WITH proof! Instead of just saying it, he gives you links to educate those that are ignorant on the topic at hand. I have learned a lot from this man.

      To sit here and listen to you try to smugly tarnish his name is quite appauling. Oz – I don’t know anything about you, and this is the first post of yours I’ve read, but I can see this much so far. You are either still in High School, or you still belong there. And this coming from me is not a compliment, as I still belong there, but I feel much more mature than you compared to the rubbish you blew into this fine website.

      • #3357224

        Part 2 of 2

        by mrafrohead ·

        In reply to From The Fro – Part 1 of 2

        Maybe you should take your own words and read his posts. Then read them again! And again, until your immaturity can be put aside and you can actually absorb what it is that you are reading. Then maybe you’ll understand why those of us from this community are standing up for this great man. Because he is very valuable to this community. He helps out greatly, accurately and sincerely.

        I can only wish that my reputation here was as well respected as his!

        Mrafrohead

        BTW – what Duck stated about Colin showing support – come on man, OZ get it together. What Colin stated probably holds more weight than any of our other posts in this thread in support of Maxwell as Colin and Max have a very strong history together. And most of it has been not too good. And to see Colin showing support… Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. I think you walked into the wrong bar, wearing the wrong colors my friend. You should kindly get yourself figured out and do it swiftly.

        And another thing – in regards tohis “broad mindedness”. Maxwell and myself have had rather interesting debates that I felt were quite heated at times. And he is NOT a closed minded person. If I am able to get him to see things from the light I see things in, that’s proof alone right there. At times I am very off the wall and he’s actually listened to what I’ve had to say and develop his own opinion instead of just dismissing it and moving on. That is NOT a sign of closed mindedness, but actual open mindedness. I truly hope that your comment was just a failed attempt at sarcasm.

        Keep trying.

        Again – Mrafrohead

        • #3357204

          Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Part 2 of 2

          I still don’t think you’ve understood the post or my objective.
          My aim wasn’t to try and bash Maxwell’s abilities, he was just chosen because he is a points leader, it could have been anyone but Mr. Edison has great status at this site.
          My point was to see why people jump on the defensive bandwagon, even when ideas and views differ.
          READ POST: “I’ll do a Max and POST to my own POST”
          Maxwell isn’t a target, actually nobody is, my goal was to generate biased opinions to prove a point internally at my office.
          Maxwell is bright enough to read posts and deliver his own opinions and arrive at his own conclusions, thus I was quite surprised to see him referring to The Wizard of Oz and finding a brain. Quite an off color and witless statement for such an educated and respected person.
          As for your analogy of myself, I applaud your aggressive defense of Maxwell, but you are way off base.
          My nickname OzMedia is just that. Media. I am a promoter and publicist, these forums are a fantastic way to learn the thought process of a particular audience. The Oz part, well that goes back to working with an old English metal band.
          Since moving to North America and opening a US office, I have learned how different the thought process andmainstream following is. American (and Canadian) audiences are completely different than other in countries. There is a lot less individuality and I feel that people are so scared of being an individual that they band together, whether with sharedopinions or not, out of fear of being unique or different. Thus Brittany Spears and Eminem have made millions from exploiting this thought process.
          Thank you and keep buying my band’s CD’s.

        • #3357176

          I think you don’t understand. Pt 1 of 2

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

          Here’s my reasoning:

          Again –

          “So, why don’t you share your experiences and opinions toward the great Mr. Edison and his broad minded, professional debating abilities.”

          We are sharing our experiences and our opinions here. I just don’t think that you are liking what you are seeing.

          You posted something that appears to be quite negative towards Maxwell. What did you expect. To see his friends sit down and let it happen??? That’s not how things work. People are supposed to stick together. If one of us is kicked, we all are.

          So now that you’ve tried to quiz us, let me quiz you???

          Was your point proven in your office and did you get your jollies out of it???

          You see – you say you picked Maxwell out of a hat due to his high score. Don’t you realize that if you would have picked anyone for this type of fickle project that we would stand at arms??? It just so happens that you picked one of the really wrong people to pick hence the large outcry.

          As for saying we’re basically all machines just filling the mold – come on now. Don’t you think standing up and voicing your opinion as was done here shows a little individuality??? I have found that the mold of most people is that they are straight up cowards and are afraid to voice their opinions no matter how strongly they feel about it.

          Here’s something to think about that I think is fitting here… It really falls into play – it was a bumper sticker on a car I saw the other day. It stated: Voice your opinion, even if your voice shakes. That basically is a huge statement to everyone. Stand up and say what you believe, don’t be afraid as most people are.

          We are voicing ourselves, there is no mold here.

        • #3357175

          Part 2 of 2

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to I think you don’t understand. Pt 1 of 2

          And my final note is this. This is just a point of advice. Make sure you’re careful of where you try to run these little experiments of yours. You try to pull some crap like this in RL and you’ll find there are a lot more than words that will be thrown around.

          Mrafrohead

          Oh yeah, I don’t buy CD’s either. Tired of buying all of the shit that you guys try to push at an unfair price.

    • #3357189

      Surprise! Surprise!

      by jardinier ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      I wish you (Max) hadn’t referred to the “Arse & Elbow” thing, because it kind of detracts from the nice things I am about to say:

      1. I am fully aware that Max has the second highest Tech Points score.

      2. Although we often lock horns, Max always remains the gentleman and answers me politely.

      3. Agree or disagree, his contributions always keep the discussions interesting.

      4. He is very patriotic, and I have no argument with that.

      • #3357174

        I totally forgot about that…

        by mrafrohead ·

        In reply to Surprise! Surprise!

        Yes, that’s true – very polite and articulate indeed!!!!

        Mrafrohead

    • #3357147

      And this would achieve what?

      by lordinfidel ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      I’m not really sure what the benefit of this post is. Normally I don’t participate in such dribble, but you attacked (from the incoherency that I read) a peer of mine, whom over the years I have respected.

      If you and max have been healthily debating, then fine. But why drag the rest of the forum into this?

      Like Max, i’ve been on this forum since it basically began. I’ve never known him to be rude or demeaning, at least not to those who did not deserve it.

      There is a small group of us who were here before you and we will still be here after you are gone. So deal with it.

    • #3359128

      Will OzMedia please reveal himself?

      by jardinier ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      Unlike some people who hide behind inaccessible aliases, Maxwell has a readily accessible email address, and if you had the brains/guts/commonsense/courtesy to express your feelings directly to him, you may even have received a polite reply.

      While it is not uncommon for a bit of name-calling to occur within a general discussion, to actually start a discussion purely for this purpose would seem to be in poor taste, to say the least.

      Whilst I am quite a newcomer to these discussions, it is quite obvious to me that you have well and truly crossed a line that, while not defined in as many words, is pretty easy to tune into.

    • #3359065

      A little help from my friends

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      Words can’t express my gratitude after reading the kind words written in this thread.

      I don’t know the real intent behind the message that started it all, but there’s no mistaking the intent behind the replies. Since I’m at such a loss for words, I’ll borrow ones written by a person (and people) that I admire:

      What would you think if I sang out of tune
      Would you stand up and walk out on me
      Lend me your ears and I’ll sing you a song
      And I’ll try not to sing out of key

      Oooh I’ll get by with a little help from my friends
      Oooh I’ll get high with a little help from my friends
      Oooh I’ll get by with a little help from my friends

      Many thanks,

      Maxwell

    • #3359051

      oh and OZ one last thing

      by mallardtooxx ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      You need to seriously grab a lie and stick to it. You have professed to be quite a few things so lets pick one and roll with it. One thing I have never seen or heard your intended mark do is say something that was untrue.
      The next time you want to try one of your experiments with your little highschool buddies, come up with a better ploy. To display the band of brothers attitude you should try to attack a common belief or goal or community. That is psyche 101, have you had that yet or are you just now getting hair in strange places. See by attacking one of the brothers directly you are getting a non conditioned response due to an emotional need to defend ones “own” that is RL 101.
      I have put you out of my mind because I have been around the block a couple of times and I have seen so many wannabes in every aspect. Guess what you are not even a wannabe, you are a never gonnabe and that makes me laugh best. Keep it up post all you want it is not a group of followers here, This is America kid and if you think the European sect is so individualistic I ask you to kindly look at the current state of the world and see who emulates whom. Nice Levi’s you’re wearing.

      Sit down drink some windex and shut the hell up.

      -duck

      • #3358954

        What has been said.

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to oh and OZ one last thing

        A music industry magazine brought up the subject of peer group followers. The issue was that in the US, no matter how good or bad an artist was, if you sell it to the ‘gang leader’ you don’t have to focus on the rest of the market, American’s will follow out of fear of being different.
        This created quite an industry stir and several heated discussions between the marketing staff here. I decided to post an OPEN poll to see how strongly people felt about a well respected peer (sorry Max, that was you). At NO point in my question did I defame or call Mr. Edison names, yet there were many direct (and quite pathetic) attempts at name calling toward me that were fitting for the Elementary School sandbox. Everything to my achievements, to the country I live in to my nickname became a focus of your aggression.
        I don’t know how many of you have actually met Maxwell Edison (I haven’t) but you stand by him and his opinions ver batim. Thus shedding a little truth on the argument.
        As for the US not being overly anxious warmongers (against weak third world countries that don’t pose a threat of course, and don’t go ranting that Saddam was a threat ((564 potential WMD sites, and nothing after searching 114 of them)another story though)
        Although many of you accused me of name calling, I don’t know where but I may have. These same people have also said they don’t stoop that low, and I should be more intelligent, American’s aren’t sheep etc. yet I have found comments to the contrary from this peer group.

        Keep it up post all you want it is not a group of followers here, This is America kid
        MallardtooXX
        Ya know what, I say screw it, bomb them all……
        LordInfidel

    • #3359622

      Will OzMedia please reveal himself?

      by oz_media ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      It is irrelevant but people seem to doubt that somebody could be proficient at more than one thing. This is not an American way of thinking at all, the reason so many people came to America, yes your parents or grandparents probably aren’t American, is because of opportunity.
      In Germany if your dad is a middle class bricklayer, you’ll probably end up as a middle class bricklayer. In North America, your dad could be a middle class bricklayer yet you have the ability and resources to become a white collar millionaire.
      So, who am I ? A 34yr old male who grew up in a sales and marketing background. I got bored of the office and decided to be a mechanic, 4 years later I was a fully licenced mechanic.
      Sick of tired and sore muscles at theend of the day, I entered the IT industry and studied to get my Master CNE certification. While in school, I DJ’d at a local club for ectra spending money, this is where I hooked up with producers and promoters in the music industry and found I hadthe ability to sign and promote bands. With the hideous American music industry, I started promoting Canadian and US bands (mostly L.A) into the European market where there is greater freedom of expression. This took off and I opened my US office.
      I am currently working with a Canadian band who is best suited for and selling well in the US. They laugh that they can write and produce almost anything and it will sell now, whether they feel it is any good or not. This is also why I don’t understand how American’s feel so patriotic towards a country with so much peer pressure to assimilate others. American’s aren’t bad people, I never said they were, but how can you be so patriotic with a government that offers poor education, horrible medical support and so much hatred towards other countries that don’t comply with their train of thought.

      • #3359375

        Show and Tell Buttercup

        by jkaras ·

        In reply to Will OzMedia please reveal himself?

        Hey Oz,
        sorry I dont believe that you are some big wig in the music industry. The only signatures that you may sign are forgeries for the fan club if you actually work for a recording company. If your so proud of your accomplishments then why notpost your credentials company, bands? Are they top secret? How could you embarrass your label?Are you well known? I doubt it due to the fact that anyone can post their so called accomplishments due to the lack of verification. I work for the local government but I could claim that I’m really high up with massive influence, but I’m not nor do I claim to be. Facts are facts and success doesnt prove anything giving more validation. Some people on these threads display egos at times and pick fightsto stroke said ego, but then again eveyone does whether here or in person. As for your criticism towards the U.S. so we got problems what country doesnt, but without our participation with world economy what would the world do? We could self supply our nation and devote millions to our own ecomomy rather than buy resources from other countries to stabilize world economy. We dont need to devote millions in aid to other countries to provide medical assistance to 3rd world countries when their leaders fail to, but we do. We are definetly not perfect and our leaders have strayed from the original intentions that we were founded on but we try, and that’s more than others countries could boast.

        • #3359374

          Part Duex

          by jkaras ·

          In reply to Show and Tell Buttercup

          Lastly there is no such thing as individuality, the only thing that makes you an individual is your dna. I can buy anything you can, wear anything you can, speak any language, and act anyway you or anyone else can. How do you ask, because nothing that defines you was created by you, you choose to identify yourself from others through interaction. Your behavior is learned just like the language you speak. There will always be conformity, there are just different levels of participation due to deflated ego that people are bombarded that they are not good looking enough or funny ect… that makes us all want to belong and liked.

        • #3357839

          Weakness

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Part Duex

          THat is my point exactly. the weak seem to assimilate what they fel is a strength to make themselves feel accepted. FEAR of rejection.
          I don’t care if you like me, it means absolutely NOTHING to me. I don’t care if your fellow citizens feel I amleft wing or full of crap. I have nothing to prove to America, I just spend your money.
          I have NO interest in your country nor do I wish to socialize with the people there.
          My point is that for a country full of patriotic citizens who say that America is the land of the free, your must be delusional. You intoned that people wear certain clothing to fit in to a chosen peer group. My point, jump on the bandwagon, be accepted and everything is OK.
          Sounds like freedom to me, you better stay there.

        • #3357843

          Study the economy a little more

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Show and Tell Buttercup

          one of the biggest drawbacks in the Canadian economy is exporting lumber and water to the US.
          Why don’t you try asking a Canadian fisherman or logger how he thinks the American’s waste of our resources has helped the economy. Give your head a shake, the US couldn’t survive on their own resources, gluttony would dry up America’s weak resources in no time.
          You have to remember you live in a nation of consumers, you don’t exactly use your resoures wisely.

        • #3357772

          Give your head a shake…

          by sullyman ·

          In reply to Study the economy a little more

          If it wasn’t for exporting Lumber, H2O, Hydro Power to the US our economy would rate in the bottom 3rd of Industrialized nations. CTO/CMO you are not…because the above concept is basic business….

    • #3359606

      A final note, only allowed short posts.

      by oz_media ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      ON another note, although this is a global forum you seem to feel it is American;

      “Keep it up post all you want it is not a group of followers here, This is America kid”
      MallardtooXX

      “and if you think the European sect is so individualistic Iask you to kindly look at the current state of the world and see who emulates whom. Nice Levi’s you’re wearing.”
      MallardtooXX (Sorry but I don’t even know where to find Levis in London.)

      “Yes, that’s true – very polite and articulate indeed!!!!”
      mrafrohead

      ( “If the man from Oz only had a brain,”)

      (What would you think (do) if I sang out of tune
      Would you stand up and walk out on me
      Lend me your ears and I’ll sing you a song
      And I’ll try not to sing out of key

      Oooh I’ll get by with a little help from my friends
      Oooh I’ll get high with a little help from my friends
      Oooh I’ll get by with a little help from my friends)

      Maxwell Edison
      Very articulate and polite. uh……yeah.
      Maybe in Elementary school.

      But all punches aside, I see that you (Maxwell) have achieved many goals and certifications (certs are pretty useless these days but I don’t want to defame personal achievements.) Although you have strayed from what your peers consider, eloquent, articulate and professional, my aim was not to target you but to see how many people would go to bat for you as a respected peer.
      I also understand that these people take what you say as true (not to say it isn’t) but who’s to say that you aren’t a 300 pound woman,living in Iraq? But that is another amusing pyschology topic itself.

      Thanks all for your interesting input, I hope I haven’t offended anyone personally.
      Again, if you read my initial post, you should see, I didn’t call Maxwell any names, nor did I discredit his achievements.

      Guess it’s back to work now, you can really crap away a lot of time on this board.

    • #3359565

      Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

      by ashish_nehra1 ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      that was a good message..

    • #3359554

      adsdf

      by saibalb ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

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    • #3359542

      How Oz Media Group is represented

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      I wonder if the executive producer of Oz Media Group knows how her company is being represented to the largest media market in the world?

      (Maybe I shouldn’t have deleted all that contact information from this message – names, addresses, phone numbers, email adresses. But then, on the other hand, they are rather easy to find – should anyone be so inclined.)

      • #3359537

        Oz Media Group ??

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to How Oz Media Group is represented

        Has NOTHING to do with me at all, keep searching.
        Oz Media once again, is a nickname.
        Due to the personal views shared on this forum, I am not at liberty (you all should love that word) to disclose the bands I respresent or my company name. My views and opinions are not neccessarily that of the band yada, yada.

        Secondly Mr. Edison, as i have said before, the purpose of this post was not derogative or defamatory to yourself. This was also not an attempt to bash your political views, the facts of WWII prove your inaccuracy as to the events that ended WWII, these resources are available for all who know to look with eyes open. http://gi.grolier.com/wwii/wwii_13.html
        There is also no reason to be so defensive, unless of course you are suggesting I was right when saying American’s fight out of fear.
        rather than stepping backwards, I’ll let this topic drop, it was a useful resource and I am happy with the predicted results. 🙂
        HS

      • #3359532

        Ok one more..

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to How Oz Media Group is represented

        I checked out your research into the OzMedia Group.
        This is some tiny little website designed to promote videographers and their achievements. Not even relatively close to what I do. I work with named acts that yes you probably have in your collection as do many Americans.
        By all means, publish the company info for all to see, I’m sure they wil appreciate the attention.
        Like I’ve said so many times before, your sources need much to be desired.
        Hey, I didn’t even call you brainless or stupid! Amazing how people can debate an issue without the need for movie references or having a rant like some of the younger audience.
        P.S. There’s a few new Q&A’s that you could probably resolve and actually put your intelligence to a good use.
        Enjoy your day, Max. I look forward to our next Primal Scream.
        HS

        • #3359366

          backpedaling fast

          by asleep_at_the_wheel ·

          In reply to Ok one more..

          This loser is backpedaling so fast that he’s laying rubber. I looked for the Oz Media Group and noticed that they are located in Canada. This loser said that he’s from Canada. Same kind of business he claims to do. And now all the sudden he’s tryingto make nice-nice. I’d say that Max hit a bulls-eye.

        • #3357837

          Your stil way off base

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to backpedaling fast

          If you are correct in thinking that I work with the Ozmedia Group I challenge you to send them an email and pick thier brains.
          I don’t work for OzMedia, I own and operate an artist promotion/management company.
          You must have got some of that fancy book ejumacashun from the most literate country’s educational system right?
          The problem with American schools, other than the fact that grade 6 students are taught grade 3 material is that they only focus on american history and The American Way. The result is a nation full of iliterates who feel they have all the facts and America is the strongest country bar none, so you better watch out.
          Get a life.

        • #3357827

          I can’t believe you’re that dumb, really

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to backpedaling fast

          Unless you are a child, which explains your inability to voice an opinion without the “hey guys” attitude, your are a gleaming example of the crappy school system that your cuntry reolves around.
          Yet again, the more idiots the schools churn out, the bigger the army becomes. If you can’t get a job, join the US Army, they’ll give you a proper education in killing the weaker ones.
          Wasn’t it the brilliant marine, who after killing 5 Iraqi citizens who were peacfully contained by UK soldiers for two weeks, who so proudly stated “we were taught to fight, not keep peace”. Oh please, would you come and police our country too.
          Your continued posts in this dicussion just enforce the point that America treats it citizens like shite and the citizens love it.
          P.S. Don’t forget to email this said OzMedia Group that I work for, I’m sure your information will amuse them to no end, especially if it comes from your brain.

        • #3357751

          Last one.

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to I can’t believe you’re that dumb, really

          You know, I really was done wasting my time with this thread – but I saw this last post and just HAD to comment on it.

          Oz you posted this above:

          “Unless you are a child, which explains your inability to voice an opinion without the “hey guys” attitude, your are a gleaming example of the crappy school system that your cuntry reolves around.”

          Since you’re so educated, I was hoping that you would please explain to the rest of us imbecile’s exactly what a “cuntry” is – and also what “reolves” are. I’m stumped.

          Another thing – when you try to flex your noodle – run spell check. You’re embarassing yourself.

          It’s awful hard to convince people how superior you are to the rest of us when you can’t even seem to spell these simple little words above.

          Mrafrohead

        • #3357741

          Too many science classes

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to Last one.

          Fro-

          It’s awfully hard.

        • #3356505

          Not a typo

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Last one.

          Cunt-ry was not a typo, figure it out.
          As for reolves, it should have read revolves, that was a typo. No I don’t spell check my posts, that takes time, which I have little of for people like yourself.
          If it was you,may not have been though, who implied I was racist, I assume it was inreference to my slamming the American government. American’s are not a race they are a society, try and tell a Mohave, Maricopa, Yuma or Apache Indian he no longer belongs to a tribe but a new race called The American’s.
          So quick to curtail the achievements of the other countries that developed your own, yet unfaithful to those who truly are the aboriginals of what you now claim is YOUR country.
          Lastly, this isn’t a spelling bee nor a battle of wits, if it were it wouldn’t be domintated by American’s.

        • #3356495

          OK…

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          I’ll concede that a majority of Americans aren’t the ones who would carry the nation in that case. However, neither would you carry yours.

          The few of our great minds still number enough to fend off those of most of the rets of the world. Especially when you focus us as you are doing now.

          I’ve read, on TR and off, about you enough to know this.

          Cease.

        • #3356466

          Cease?

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          Is that your way of telling me to stop posting?
          or are you simply saying that you have had your say and have nothing more to offer in this loooooong thread that doesn’t seem to go away.
          If the latter, I agree.
          You do say that you’ve read enoughto know about me now, again, this is merely a single website in which I have admittedly posted very biased comments to what I SEE as very biased, destructive and uneducated thought processes.
          You’re right, this thread is old and tired, as I now feel too. I’ll agree to disagree and perhapse we can share ideas in a more constructive, less political forum. If we all agreed on politics we would only have one country in the world. nuff said, thanks for your input.

        • #3358893

          Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          I called you the racist, ya bigot.

          Re-read your posts and you’ll start to catch what I’m talking about.

          Mrafrohead

        • #3358882

          So, you rear your fuzzzy head

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          I think I’ll simply answer your redundant post about racism.
          1) My country never overthrew a middle east country that had zero defense ability. No don’t read the assumptions of WMD and germ warfare, just remember how much resistance the Marines were up against, virtually none. Boy Scouts would have done an effective job. To date, no WMD found, so drop it, you were wrong.

          2) I live in a multicultural country that allows people from other countries to start a new life, not end the one they have. My best friend is East Indian and married to a Chinese girl who I think is wonderful.

          The only racism in my blood is toward the many (yet not all) American’s who feel America is the world and selfishly declare themselves the almighty super power and want to police the rest of the globe, get stuffed and F-OFF!
          You have faced two major attacks on American soil, Pearl Harbour and the WTC tragedy. In both cases, you were shit kicked with your pants down. I won’t even enertain the thought of responding to your pathetic little attempts at glory anymore, you are a weak, pathetic and useless voice. Go cut your F’in hair and get a life.

        • #3358631

          OZ -Embarrass yourself not Canada

          by sullyman ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          Your debating skills are in need of refinement, and at the end of the day it wouldn?t surprise me to find out if you are a high school student doing some sort of ?Pay it Forward? experiment. Mrafrohead called YOU a racist, and you respond with yourview of OUR country?s world affairs. You are beginning to loose credibility.

          Now, to correct you on your number 1 statement

          Actually you are wrong, Canada was more that willing to join the coalition in Afghanistan, and continues to do so.

          And Number 2

          Yes, we do live in a multicultural country and yes people can start a new life here in Canada. But, at the end of the day they need to become 100% Canadian. That is ending the one that they have.

          And your American Rant

          In a different thread, in a different tone, in a well written way I might have actually supported some of your views ( not the racism comment mind you ). But, your total lack of credibility and written conversational skills is becoming bothersome, and boring.

          Sullyman in Canada

        • #3531668

          And you’re a real Canadian?!

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          “Now, to correct you on your number 1 statement

          Actually you are wrong, Canada was more that willing to join the coalition in Afghanistan, and continues to do so.”

          Thank you for your highly educational post that finally makes me see the light. Your examples are inspiring.In today’s Province (local newspaper) there was a Canaidan that had just returned from being with his father in Iraq during the war. He has said that there is little or no support or medical attention available and isasking Canadians to support the Canadian Division of The Red Cross by sending food, common medical supplies and clothing so that the Canadian Red Cross can help the survivors of this devastating war. So you are right, Canada is backing the war, by HELPING the Iraqi citizens to recover from the attack.

          “And Number 2

          Yes, we do live in a multicultural country and yes people can start a new life here in Canada. That is ending the one that they have.”
          My family has lived here for 17 years, me off and on and back and forth from US to England to Canada. When I was in hospital, the Canadian government helped support my family, when my son was unemployed he received welfare (I’m not too keen on that one)and when we are ill, my BC Medical covers most of the costs.
          Your statement, “But, at the end of the day they need to become 100% Canadian.” I just don’t understand. What do you receive that I can’t, and why? I’m NOT a Canadian citizen, nor is my wife, however my children are.

        • #3531660

          Canadian eh!!

          by sullyman ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          There is a huge difference between Iraq and Afghanistan, you made the statement that Canada has never been involved in overthrowing a middle eastern country. We have been, and continue to do so in Afghanistan. Obviously you are not a Canadian citizen, because Geography is one of skills that we teach our children. If you are going to make such a blatantly wrong statement, then be man enough to admit you are wrong.

          The scary thing about what you mention about what YOU are entitled to as alanded immigrant, are all the social assistance benefits. Not a mention about anything else other than what you GET!! Canada is more about giving, than getting??

          You mention that you have lived in the US and England, but in a previous post you mention that Canada allows you to start a new life. The US didn?t let you live there? Or England? So you were living in both illegally?

          I was mad at the fact that I thought that a Canadian was making those statements, but now I am mad because people actually think that you are representing a Canadian view. When in fact you are a gypsy, and will probably be spewing anti-Canada sentiment when you pack up and leave next week for your next country.

          Sullyman

        • #3531602

          You funny little boy.

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          Oz – You know…

          I’m going to show you how you just showed your racism all in one sentence.

          Shave my fuzzy little head huh??? Wouldn’t you like to know, that I’m actually a white male with an almost shaved head.

          Ouch – now that’s gotta hurt. You look at my nick and assume I’m something I’m not and make all of the racially motivated comments regarding it.

          Well you’ve just been X’d man. You are wrong, and you can not take it back. Ever hear of “Social Engineering”??? Well welcome to the game, cuz I just set you up for a HUGE fall. And you fell harder than I thought you would. It wasn’t hard to get you to show your true colors.

          As for my comment to YOU about YOUR problem, I am talking to YOU, NOT the country that you are living in. Sullyman, sure as hell saw that, why can’t you?

          Also – you state that you’re thirty four, yet you have a kid on the unemployment system over there?? How is that possible, what were you sixteen when you had your kid?

          You know, it’s funny. I keep thinking to myself, I’m done with this thread. But Oz – you’re such a clown, you just keep drawing me back to it.

          I’d like to thank you for making my day better than it was to start with. If I wasn’t able to watch someone fallon their face as hard as you just did, I’da never gotten out of that slump that I was in.

          So thanks Oz – looks like you’re good for something after all 😉

          Mrafrohead

        • #3531578

          Mrafrohead and Sullyman Pt1.

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          Mrafrohead – If you think that what you have “cleverly” uncovered is considered Social Engineering, read The Blue Nowhere (all techs should actually it’s a good read).

          First – I was 17 when my son was born. Like many people I found myself with apregnant girlfriend while in high school. The difference is I stood up and took the responsibility of support.

          Second – I have NEVER implied that you weren’t white. You indicate your ‘fro’ in your alias, probably because you are a baggy pant wearing little Eminem wannabe punk and wish to seem intelligent. Personally, I couldn’t care less.

          P.S. I never hide my true colors, if you think I’m an asshole, you’re probably right. People think of me what I want them to think.

        • #3531570

          Mrafrohead and Sullyman Pt2.

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          Sullyman, sullyman where can you be? Your attitude says Toronto but I really couldn’t give a damn.

          1st) “as a landed immigrant, are all the social assistance benefits. Not a mention about anything else other than what you GET!! Canada is more about giving, than getting??”

          I am a landed immigrant to Canada with permanent residence staus. My company is taxed, I am forced to pay GST, my wife pays tax and so do my children. Why wouldn’t I be entitled to the same benefits that you or any other Candian is?

          2nd)”you have lived in the US and England, but in a previous post you mention that Canada allows you to start a new life”
          Visit BC, you will see a massive number of Asians, East Indians, Europeans, Phillipino’s etc. that have moved here, and started a new life.
          I moved here because my father was employed in Nova Scotia at one time.

          3rd)” The US didn?t let you live there? Or England? So you were living in both illegally?”
          You may have learned Canadian Geography but seem to have no knowledge of the immigration laws.
          I lived in the US for a while, California and Oregon as I was building my business there. Canada welcomed me with open arms asa commonwealth country, remember singing God Save The Queen in school? In Nova Scotia we had a picture of the Queen in every classroom.

          You guys are now free to post yuor “Social Engineering” feats, racism accusations and other colorful remarks, but keep in mind, they fall on deaf ears now. I’m going camping.

        • #3531530

          A Glimmer of Hope?

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to Not a typo

          In response, paragraph by paragraph:

          Considering, I saw a sign of it, verified it and then steered you into what I was looking for, and you didn’t seem to catch what I was doing. I’d say it was mildly clever. I mean, I gotcha… As for the book – I’ll give it a read. Nething new to learn is a good thing;)

          As for the next line. I can’t knock on that one. I’m actually quite impressed – as it seems to me lately, MOST men walk the other direction. So on that aspect – Kudos.

          The nextone – Yes, you have made multiple references to me in a different light according to the type of person you automatically thought you were talking too. Though you did say I wasn’t white, you did make references that I wouldn’t say, as I don’t believe in the types of things that you sure as hell appear to. If you don’t believe it, go look at your posts again. You’ll see it. As for Eminem, I love his music. Doesn’t mean I wanna be like him though. It just feels good blowing through my stereo. Though my true vice is hard core techno. Oh yeah, I wear a belt too. Gotta have something to attach my chain to. And you think I sound intelligent??? Well that’s a nice little compliment, since I sometimes wonder, hehehahah… But then again, I guess I should consider the source.

          Last one – if you make people think what they want to think, then you ARE hiding your true colors. If you weren’t, people would see you for what you really are, and not what you want them to see.

          You know, the more I think about this thread, the more it’s like a bad car accident. I am sick of waiting in traffic, don’t care to see what’s there, but at the same time, I just can’t seem to stop myself from looking. It’s actually becoming quite humorous. My daily dose of comedy.

          Mrafrohead

    • #3359292

      This Canadian wants to say – Part One

      by canadian1951 ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      This letter was written to the editor of the main newspaper of my birthplace, Sarnia, Ontario.

      I was born in Sarnia in 1951 and moved to the United States in 1954. I joined the United States Army in 1970 during the Viet Nam War as a Canadian citizen and did not flee to Canada like many of the cowards in my country did, even though I had a valid Canadian passport. In 1992 I became an American citizen.

      It was at that time that I started to realize the depth and range of the anti-American sentiment of many of the Canadian people. I had always believed that we were good neighbors but I was becoming aware that this was not the case.

      Because of my Canadian roots, I’m frequently asked to comment on the reasoning behind the anti-American attitudes of many Canadians.

      Many people here believe that the current attitude is a result of the impending war in the Middle East and that it is a fashionable position to take; much like your European allies. However, I know that this pervasive attitude transcends this particular conflict. This perception and animosity is much older than the current situation.

      We hear about your peace rallies and protests-but never hear any viable solutions or alternatives.

      We have heard you “boo” anddisrespect our national anthem at hockey games and other sporting events.

      We have heard your elected officials call our President a” moron” and most recently,one of your Members of Parliament commented that she “hated those American bastards.”

    • #3359291

      This Canadian wants to say – Part Two

      by canadian1951 ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      Well do you know how this Canadian/American bastard explains it? I tell them that Canadians(for the most part) are jealous of our prosperity,our power and our world influence. I tell them Canada has emulated European Socialists and abrogated your freedoms and wealth to the government and yet you can’t understand why you haven’t prospered or are held at any level of esteem by any nation, with the possible exception of France.

      I tell them that the Canadians have inhabited North America for as long as we have and possess natural resources greater than ours, yet they have produced nothing of any worth; in fact they are out produced by S. Korea.

      You cannot design your own automobiles(you take ours and put Canadian names on them), computers, semi-conductors, consumer electronics, etc. You have never liberated any countries from tyranny. What are your accomplishments for your 200 plus years? Canadian bacon and Molsons, eh?

      You benefit from your proximity to the United States and thecommonality of language (Quebec excepted) in terms of security, freedom and commodities that you purchase here with your semi-worthless currency.

      This American bastard is really sick of the whining and the insults. I’m proud to be an American citizen and ashamed of the country of my birthplace for their continued condemnation of the United States.

      There is a profound need for a world super-power and those of you who believe in God should thank Him that a country as benevolent, powerful and as influential as ours is that super power.

      You should also ask yourselves what country can best direct global peace and liberty? France? Germany? Russia? China? Canada?

      You might also ask yourselves what your life would be like without the achievement, technologies, freedoms and sacrifices provided by “those American bastards” to your south.

      • #3357832

        What a crock

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to This Canadian wants to say – Part Two

        This worthless drivel is what you consider a rebiuttal?
        Some freak moves to the States, gets laid for the first time and writes this inaccurate statement of events?

        1st) There is a profound need for a world super-power and those of you who believe in God should thank Him that a country as benevolent, powerful and as influential as ours is that super power
        Super Power??? Vietnam, North Korea. nuff said.
        Ok so you blew up some camel jockeys and accused them of terrorizing your country. I’m not even gonna get into that one again.

        2nd)You should also ask yourselves what country can best direct global peace and liberty? France? Germany? Russia? China? Canada?
        Does this mean you really consider yourselves global police? Looking atthe way you police your own country, no thanks you arrogant c*%$s.

        3rd) You might also ask yourselves what your life would be like without the achievement, technologies, freedoms and sacrifices provided by “those American bastards” to your south.
        Now your trying to make me believe that Bill Gates didn’t steal the Windows concept from the two Canadian univerity students who wrote it?

        Freakin, Americans, this is what I mean about propaganda warping the American mind. Get over it, your all pussys who couldn’t survive the rest of the week without everyone else’s resources and the inherent feeling that you are a super power.

        I guess that’s why when American’s discovered Europe, the native Europeans were so happy to accuire your resources. I’m sure that’s in your history books.
        KNOB!

        • #3357823

          Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to What a crock

          Do you think that Howie Klein would approve you using that net connection to spill this rubbish from your company???

        • #3357808

          Who is Harry Klein

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

          Im sure that he would be amused.
          I am under a 4 month contract with one of Canada’s largest telephone companies as a chief technology and marketing officer. That measns that as an ISP ourselves, bandwidth isn’t a concern. If Harry Klein works here, I welcome you to submit your comments. Just don’t be surprised if he calls you a Yankee redkneck yahoo because he’s never heard of me.
          You guys are just gettnig weaker and weaker in your stupid little attempts at threatening rebuttals. I am really getting bored of your opinion, I was proven wrong in this article as I told the staff here that you weren’t all that anal and magazine articles should be taken with a grain of salt. Bottom line, idiot.
          Give me your worst, if it is anything like your attempt at war with Vietnam you’ll soon relize your just a little tiny man with a big mouth and nothing to back it. Better still, show your true colors and start ranting as you’ve so eloquently done before, loser.

        • #3357797

          Okay, I may have been wrong

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Who is Harry Klein

          Okay, I may have been wrong about that Oz Media Group connection.

          And I guess I’ll just have to take you on your word about working for one of Canada’s largest telephone companies as a chief technology and marketing officer.

          So I would guessthat might be H. Scovell or perhaps H.S. Covell, chief technology and marketing officer.

          Let me take a wild guess as to which company:

          North American Telecommunications Group
          1919 Sumas Way
          Abbotsford, BC V2S 4L5
          CANADA
          +1 (604) 526 2129 – phone
          +1 (604) 8536342 – fax

          Now this information means nothing to me, but I’m here to help, and other’s just might be wondering.

          Of course, I could be wrong – since I’m wrong about everything else as well.

        • #3357773

          By the way

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Who is Harry Klein

          I love a challenge – just as much as I love America.

          I just thought you might want to know that.

        • #3357754

          You’re still out of whack

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to By the way

          No I don’t work for Northern Telecommunications in Abbotsford. You are getting warmer though, you got the right Province. I never said I wasn’t in BC though.
          Dig deep.

        • #3357730

          Be careful what you ask for

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to You’re still out of whack

          Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. Keep digging, you ask of me? Well, okay. If you insist.

          Whether you work out of the Abbotsford office or the Annacis office, a well worded email to info@natgtelecom.com might produce some interesting results.

          Or perhaps one to jobs@natgtelecom.com might reach a human resources manager without a sense of humor.

          Or to prevent an untimely email “intercept”, a snail mail to:

          Annacis Sales Office
          9-1585 Cliveden Ave.
          New Westminster,B.C. V3M-6M1

          or phone call to:

          Ph: 604.526.2129

          Fax: 604.526.5972

          How long do you think it would take me to get the name of the company CEO? (Maybe I already have it.) How long do you think it would take for me to post it?

          You bettershut up. You are really begining to piss me off.

        • #3357724

          Not there

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to You’re still out of whack

          Max, he doens’t work for NATG, or he wouldn’t have referred to it as “Northern Telecommunications” – he would have said “North American Telecommunications” then.

          Unless he’s less intelligent than that for which you have given him credit.

        • #3357716

          dpetrak –

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to You’re still out of whack

          Yes he does.

        • #3357753

          Then…

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to By the way

          I challenge you to come up with a pill that makes me thin, attractive, and wealthy.

          Take your time, I can wait.

        • #3357749

          OK, a real one

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to By the way

          Here’s a real challenge for you: just for fun.

          Find me, and let me know [not publicly, if you don’t mind].

          For extra credit, find my employer and tell me something about my history.

          This is just for Max, now, no fair helping him. And I don’t want you other oddball techies trying this – professionals only.

          This will be a timed exam – Max you’re on your honor for telling me when to start the clock.

        • #3357727

          Then I’ll know. . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to OK, a real one

          …where to send my magical get thin, rich and attractive pill, right?

          How about this easy 3 step program instead – free of charge, no less.

          1. Eat Less, move more.

          2. Wealth is measured by the quality of your friendships – so be nice.

          3. Real beauty lies within. If you think attractive, you’ll be attractive.

          You’re welcome.

          (P.S. Send me an email if you want me to dig into anything else.)

        • #3357561
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          Max your wasting your breath here

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to By the way

          I know we don’t always get along but this disuussion is nothing more than a complete waste of time. There is no doubting your real beliefs but by continuning in this discussion you are just egging this guy on to more aotlandish claims.

          The only thing that I can cpmpare this dissucion to is “It’s like hitting your head against a brick wall it only feels good when you stop”.

          I know we disagree on a lot of things but this is really a dead topic and should be burried along with the rest of the rubbish. What was there something like 46 new postings as listed today? This whole thing is getting out of hand by some one that insists on hiding behing an allisis in an attempt to I suspose try to be funny at best or degrade this forum into something that it is not. So lets get on with what really important and leave all this rubbish behind.

          Colin

        • #3357766

          Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to Who is Harry Klein

          Being in the marketing department of this big firm you belong to, you should certainly know who Harry Klein is. He should be someone for you to look up to.

          As for the remainder of the rubbish you have stained my monitor with – I am finished wasting my time with you. You’re all bark and no bite.

          As far as your opinions of us and our country here – I think I finally understand all of your negative aggresion. You’re actually jealous and envious of us. You wish that you could be more likeus, but you can not. Therefore you think that if you try to make us miserable it will make you feel better. It was a nice attempt, but you have failed. Quite miserably I might add.

          BTW – how long have you been a bigot?

          Mrafrohead

        • #3357752

          Not only…

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

          He doesn’t know Harry Klein, and he doesn’t recognize Beatles lyrics.

        • #3357709

          That depends on who sang it

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Not only…

          Not only were the lyrics incorrect, they were the version sung by Joe Cocker.

          Me.Edison, send all the email you like. If you do get the right company , which you don’t yet, the email links ALL go to my desk first for security filtering.

          Tracetools are old, easily fooled and inacurate.
          Why would I use accurate info if I manage my own ISP services?

        • #3357810

          Wow You sure told them!

          by mallardtooxx ·

          In reply to What a crock

          Man that was just as impressive as I could imagine. I mean the KNOB that was a coup de grace that you must have thought on for hours, man you are such a strong debator that I am actually giddy waiting for your next post.

          But first I would like to set the record straight, now I realize that my education is subpar so I will try to sound smart here okay?

          a SuperPower-by definition is according to websters: A powerful and influential nation, especially a nuclear power that dominates its allies or client states in an international power bloc.

          How does one become a super power? Well I am glad you asked. Economy, military, foreign policy.

          Canada is a leech country, they exist because we allow it. If I have a gun I can take over your country, unless your police get lucky with those oversized sprinkler keys they carry since you can’t have guns.

          As for the Canadian1951, I applaud the fact that they saw the light. I don’t believe for a second they regret their choice.

          As for you OZ, well I think it laughable that you continue to post here, if you are so far above all of us, BTW I am sure you are not what you say you are, then this thread would never have seen you again. But alas you just cannot get enough of us can you. BTW I thought you were from london yesterday, did you move? Cause I know plenty of places to get Levis in Canada.

          You’re funny you make me laugh keep it up, I like the way you dance. Was that simple enough?

          -duck

        • #3357776

          Duck – That is not nice

          by sullyman ·

          In reply to Wow You sure told them!

          Ok, Duck now you have gone a pissed off a duel citizen (kind of anyhow). Canadians are not leeches, in fact we contribute as much as the US in different ways. Some ways not quite in alignment with the US policy, in others backing the US policy fully. Both countries have policies that are not always favorable, but in most cases they will stand behind each other. Iraq is an exception, but that thread has been beaten to death. FACT: Canadian Peace Officers carry firearms, it?s the Bobbies in England that do not.

          We will agree on ozmedia, waste of time and waste of skin. If he keeps up his rants, the next words out of his mouth will be ? would you like fries with that??

          Sullyman?.

        • #3357762

          My sincere apology

          by mallardtooxx ·

          In reply to Duck – That is not nice

          Sullyman,
          I am sorry, I did not under any circumstances mean to offend you. I was not aiming at all of canada, That was my faux pas, I meant only to inflame the OZMedia joker. Please accept my sincerest apology in this matter and understand thatI meant in no way to offend anyone but my intended target. Sometimes I drink too much windex before I post.

          As for the guns, I was basing that on my last trip to canada and the “stay” a friend of mine had when he made fun of those sprinkler key things the police were carrying =)

          again I apologize if I offended an actual forum contributor as that was not my intent.

          -duck

        • #3357746

          You’re getting boring

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Wow You sure told them!

          I’ll answer this last post and then I’ll let you guys sing and dance that you “beat Canada” once again. LOL.
          As I have said before but you can’t get it into your miniscule mind, this is not a purely American board. Just like everything else in theworld, you think you should all be in charge, way to go America. Other country’s could really benefit from your astute knowledge of the way the world SHOULD be run.
          Yes I am from London. Yes I did move, although hot yesterday. I do travel back and forth at least three times a year due to my work. I know it is hard for an Anmerican to understand that there is a world outside of the US but I’m sure you don’t go to England because Americans are not well received there, or Germany, or Sweden, or France, or Italy or Brazil or Australia. (This is where you say how crappy all those countries are and how they wouldn’t exist without America.)
          Canadians on the other hand are accepted with open arms in any country I’ve visited. Just put a Canadian flag on your luggage and you’re in for some true hospitality.
          Time to go swim in your little pond and lead all the other little ducklings around in circles, like this post has done for days and your cunt-ry has done for years. Maybe you arejust pissed because the Africans you abducted from their homes and brought over to build your little pile of dirt finally woke up and said no more.
          Super Power Country my ass, what a weak and spineless culture you all have.
          Time to go and inflitrate some other poor third world country so you can look big (only to yourselves of course) again. If it wasn’t for stupid people like yourself, your citizens might have actually gained the respect of people other than Americans.

        • #3357729

          Don’t get a mighty duck upset

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to You’re getting boring

          Have you ever seen a pissed-off duck?

          Keep baiting. You’ll see it.

        • #3357705

          Sick of this useless forum.

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Don’t get a mighty duck upset

          Funny how the Internet effects your personal lives. Do you really think anything is real hear? The most popular phone sex operator in America is a 6foot tall black man that poses as Raven. It is MOSTLY crap, it is all BS and nothing on the internet should be taken as truth. You seem to all live your lives around it though. Why don’t you try taking your pasty white skin out of mom’s basement and see the real world around you.

        • #3357701

          And he’s a . . .

          by maxwell edison ·

          In reply to Sick of this useless forum.

          …racist to boot.

    • #3357703

      Lyrics and Last Laughs

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      The lyrics I posted were exactly as Sir Paul wrote them. (With a little help from his friends, of course.) Joe Cocker, who made a career recording his own versions of other people’s songs (and he did it quite well, by the way) changed the lyrics slightly. (Such as “do” instead of “think”.) When I use lyrics, I always use the writer’s version. Look it up, and you’ll discover that I’m right.

      Here, have a little help (from your “friends”).

      http://www.thebeatles.com.hk/lyrics/lyrics.asp?lyTitle=With+A+Little+Help+From+My+Friends

      (Don’t forget about that elusive little space.)

      And I love it when I get the last laugh – especially one as good as this. Good luck intercepting the snail mail from the bosses desk. (Maybe you can “service” the kid in the mail room.)

      It’s now time for me to sit down.

      I’m outta’ here …….

      • #3357688

        MY POST WAS RACIST?

        by ozmedias ·

        In reply to Lyrics and Last Laughs

        That’s definitely wrong! I live in the most multicultural country in the world ! Most of my friends are not white (I am) and I have NEVER accused someone of anything based on race.
        You go too far with your little assumptions.

        P.S. WHOIS database is a farce, I haven’t worked for the assumed company in three years. While your at it, mail Sarup Mann at Ansatel on Kingsway in Vancouver (you can look it up)oh yes, and Tel Plus Systems in Richmond, don’t forget Sitel Canada in Toronto. I don’teven live in Southern B.C. anymore, but your fine knowledge should be able to figure that out.

        The company you have traced my IP to isn’t even a phone company, they are an interconnect for a telephone company I used to work with.
        Better still complain to the ISP you have traced me to, at least it’ll get to somone who knows me, not that they care because they are a branch of the company I work for now.

        Racist? Now that I am not.

        • #3357674

          Not you..

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to MY POST WAS RACIST?

          Your name is OzMEdias. I believe the offender was
          called OzMedia.

          Two totally different people, I’m sure.

    • #3357687

      Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

      by dbgirl ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      “(Somehow, I think the most posts will be from Mr.Edison himself).”

      Looks like another mark missed.

      I will keep this response short. I don’t always have much to say in this forum, but I have been a regular here for a couple years now.

      I respect Maxwell Edison, and would like to continue reading his insights into whatever topics come up here. At least he can keep his story straight, and provides supporting links to his arguments. In the cases where I don’t agree with him or his link (which has been extremely rare), I have been able to come up with supporting information that I verify personally. Does this mean I think he’s always right? No. But I do think he’s a well educated person, and I respect his opinion.

      As far as the lyrics… Does it really matter if they were exact? He got his point across.

      • #3357681

        He does have a point

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Reply To: Would the real Max please stand up?

        Now he just needs a hat to fit it.
        (sorry, I won’t try to attack Mr.Edison via third party conversation, as I have mentioned in the past, he has valid opinions). Whether or not we see eye to eye is irrelevant. This whole exercise has been blownout of control and has now become a personal debate over who killed who. I was orginally on the TR side but have been pushed to the other side as a result of some people’s comments. Edison can defend himself, however I’m sure he appreciates your support.
        He’s just getting way off base at this point and I guess due to his need for constructive conversation has opted out of further posts.

        • #3357675

          Good Ridance.

          by mrafrohead ·

          In reply to He does have a point

          Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out either 😉

          As for your racist question, you’re right, it wasn’t one post that showed it. It was three.

          Mrafrohead

        • #3357529

          third time is a charm

          by mallardtooxx ·

          In reply to He does have a point

          maybe you mean it this time?

          -duck

        • #3531655

          sigh

          by cactus pete ·

          In reply to third time is a charm

          No, he lied. I guess we can add that to the list; bigot, liar, racist.

          What next?

    • #3358479

      The views expressed…

      by rickydoo ·

      In reply to Would the real Max please stand up?

      Referring to the scratching and clawing of this thread:
      The views expressed by OzMedia are not necessarily those of Rickydoo, or Candaians in general.
      The attacks on Canadians and Canada will not be dignified with a reply be me, as they were obviously incited by the postings of the above mentioned joker.
      The apology by MallardtooXX is accepted with grace and humility. But could you capitalise Canada please?
      Now, will the real OzMedia please shut up so we can more easily navigate the pertinent information.

      • #3356560

        I think Oz has left the building

        by mallardtooxx ·

        In reply to The views expressed…

        I am sorry rickydoo, I sometimes get a little hurried when I type. Often I don’t capitalize anything but you are right and here you go. To all the Canadian posters (ozmedia excluded) I would like to say thank you and keep posting. without your Canadian input, this forum would not be the same. may we share continuing kinship with our friends to the north. Canada.

        -duck

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