Question Locked

XP Key from recovery CD doesn't work

0 helpful
6 replies
Closed to new repliesThis discussion is closed. It stays readable, but it takes no new replies.

Hi,
I've got a Dell pc that died so I tried using the XP Pro recovery disk to upgrade my Gateway to XP. I misplaced the key so I used the key from my other Dell to get it up and running until I found the original key. Ran across an article on pulling the key from the CD itself, which I did find in the Unattend.txt file on the CD. Attempted to reset the key to the correct one as noted in the Techrepublic article "Get IT Done: Change the product key on Windows XP", but it keeps telling me "incorrect product key".

Do I have to go back and reinstall Windows XP using the correct key from the CD from scratch or is there a way to fix this without going through all that trouble?

Thanks,
Jeff K.

6 replies

by thechas

The ONLY fix for this is for you to BUY a copy of XP or at least a license for your Gateway.

The Dell OEM copy of XP is hardware locked to Dell systems, and may even be locked to a specific series or model.

Further, what you are trying to do constitutes theft. Per the EULA for the OEM version of XP (and most other software) you are allowed to use it on ONLY the original computer it came with.

Let me ask you this, is the $150 (US) you might save by not buying your own copy of XP worth the risk of the $10,000 or so fine that could be levied against you for using pirated software?

I don't think so.

by jlklein

So basically if my computer dies then I can't continue to use the OS I've already paid for on another computer? Even if I moved some of the components, i.e. hard drive and CD drive, over to the other PC? Or maybe I'm not allowed to move my hard drive or CD drive or RAM to another computer without paying for it again?

Pardon my frustration but that's just stupid and a rip-off. I've already paid for the XP Pro OS and if it outlasts the Dell I shouldn't have to pay for it again. It's not even a hardcoded CD as it's actually a reinstallation vice recovery CD (my mistake with the wording). No utilities or add-on Dell software, just the XP Pro installation program. And don't tell me I get it cheaper from Dell because it's OEM...not with how much extra they charged for the Pro version.

If the only way to prove to Microsoft that I'm not "STEALING" my own already paid for copy of their software from them is to pay for it again then I guess I'm stuck. I guess that's why they only give OEM recovery or reinstallation CD's now instead of the real thing...more money for Microsoft.

Jeff K.

by cg it

that's basically it with OEM versions of Windows which is what Dell, HP use.

OEM software is only good for the computer it's installed on. Full Retail Product allows install on other machines but you must buy a license for the additional install.

Note: media [the CD with the software on it] isn't the same as a license. Retail media can be installed on many machines [but won't activate without a valid license] and you buy licenses to activate. Licenses are in essence valid product keys which you can get over the phone by calling the phone # on the product activation page or though a retailer.

by thechas

Ah, but in the eyes of Microsoft, using an OEM copy of Windows that was sold with one computer on a different computer is stealing.

Here is a quote from a Microsoft license FAQ:

"One main difference is that an OEM operating system license (such as the license for Windows) cannot be transferred from its original PC to another PC. However, the FPP version of Windows may be transferred to another PC as long as the EULA, manual and media (such as the backup CD) accompany the transfer to the other PC. Also, when a customer purchases an OEM product, the OEM license requires the OEM to provide support for the product."

Here is the link:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/3/4e3eace0-4c6d-4123-9d0c-c80436181742/OSLicQA.doc
or http://tinyurl.com/nzamn

This is from a XP document on piracy:

"License Misuse: Software distributed under special discount licenses, either to high-volume customers, computer manufacturers, or academic institutions, that is then redistributed to others who do not hold or qualify for these licenses.
?

Original equipment manufacturer (OEM) stand-alone product. This form of license misuse occurs when OEM version software has been unbundled from its designated computer system and distributed as a separate (or stand-alone) product. The Microsoft agreement with computer manufacturers prohibits them from distributing Microsoft products in this fashion, that is, without accompanying computer hardware. Microsoft products on the retail shelf should never include a line on the front cover of the User's Guide that states, "For Distribution Only With New Computer Hardware."

And, for your information, the Dell recovery CD is hard coded for Dell equipment. The same with HP, Compaq, Gateway and all other "major" OEM computer manufactures. While Dell does get a "deal" on the cost of Windows and other Microsoft products, the price Dell can charge for upgrades to the OS is controlled by their agreement with Microsoft.

Microsoft treats it's products much like the owner of an all you can eat buffet. You can use Windows as much as you want on your PC. But, you can't have another person load up their PC from your plate. Nor can you come back another day with a new plate and not pay again.

As another way to think about this, if system builders like Dell did provide full retail versions of Microsoft software the price you pay for a new computer would go up at least $100, and perhaps more than $500 for a business configured computer with Office.

Here is another "fun" thought, at one time, (and it might still be this way) the Microsoft OEM license was only to the original purchaser / user. Technically, if you sold the computer you were required to remove all Microsoft software. The person you sold the computer to would need to buy their own copy of Windows in order to use the computer!

Aren't functional monopolies wonderful!

If you don't like Microsoft's rules, I suggest you switch over to Linux.

Chas

by Former member

If your computer goes belly up and you have to replace hdd's etc, you DO NOT have to buy another License as you already have it. Just re-install windows with the key(s) and that is that really. Enjoy

This discussion is closed to new replies.