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2 Questions about TCP/IP and WIN NT 4.0

By TomSal ·
Right now we are an NT 4.0 IPX network. We are relocating to a new building, purchasing more servers and hubs as we upgrade our network. We want to go to an all TCP/IP network. I know we need a DHCP server, is a WINS server REQUIRED though (yes we use Internet access)? Also how does the licensing work - If a NT Server is set up as a Wins server or a DHCP does that mean I need client licenses for them?

Thanks for your help in advance.

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2 Questions about TCP/IP and WIN NT 4.0

by f_somers In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

WINS: you will need WINS in your network to provide name resolution. WINS has nothing to do with the Internet - you will require DNS if you are directly connected to the Internet (i.e. you have a public IP address which is accesiblle from the Internet)
Consider going to native DNS rather than WINS if you plan to upgrade to Windows 2000 in the future, as W2K requires DNS.

License: You do not require extra CAL's for these services other than the standard NT CAL you require anyways to connect to the NT4.0 Server.

Have fun!

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by TomSal In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

Like I mentioned to the other responder, I got foggy on WINS I don't know what made me think of Internet with WINS..thanks for the input.

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by Ron Navon In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

Dear Sir,

It is very easy to move from IPX to TCP/IP and more effective, you have just install the WINS and DHCP Services on your WINS, DHCP server.I sudjest you to configure the Wins and your default Gateway via DHCP service.

Aboutthe Licences: I hope that you Installed your Server in Per seat Mode because if your installation is in per seat you just pay for the number of workstation that connected to your PDC but if you installed your server as per server you have purchase license for each server according the number of USERS that connect to your Servers, any way you can change the Perserver Mode to Per Seat Mode and solve your problem.

Sincerely
Ron

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by TomSal In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

Yep we are in per seat mode.

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by dft3 In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

First of all, you'll need licenses for as many clients that will be concurrently connecting to a server. So, you don't need clients for as many IP addresses as you configure your DHCP scope for. For example, a scope of 129.160.0.1 - 129.160.0.10 will provide for 10 IP addresses, thus you don't need 10 licenses. It just provides for a little room to expand the network later.

Secondly, there's really not a smooth way to get around using WINS. That's like trying to set up NT without using NetBIOS. It's hard-coded into Microsoft's TCP/IP stack and there's really no way around it for efficient host name resolution, except for LMHOSTs files, which could prove really disastrous.

You could just use DNS, but keep in mind that NT reallywants to use WINS because it is its native solution and works best for host name resolution. This is also the only way for peer to peer file sharing to work.

Contact me if you have any more questions and

Good Luck!

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by TomSal In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

Thank you for responding fast and your generosity in offering to help.

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by NetTek In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

I disagree with the first three answers in regards to WINS. A WINS server is NOT required, unless you have a WAN and you are crossing routers. MS TCP/IP can use broadcast resolution on a LAN, and reslove names without WINS, but it will cause more network traffic. If you have enough servers, you may as well install the WINS Server Service. WINS is also not required for Internet usage.

You are incorrect when you say you will need a DHCP server. You can go with static IP addresses on each client and server. Some companies prefer static addresses for security and adminstration. However, if you do go with DHCP, and elect not to go with WINS, you can use DHCP for name resolution (but not across routers).

Finally, you can also install WINS without using DHCP. They are two seperate entities.

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by TomSal In reply to 2 Questions about TCP/IP ...

I had some experience with WINS before but I got foggy on it from being away from it for a while. And you speak with technicality, of course you don't NEED DHCP and could go static, but its extra work in my experience..DHCP once you get the kinks out makes life easier. But that's just my opinion.

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