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2PCs 1 with USB ADSL ,net for home

By george ·
adsl usb AND 2 pcS WITH WIN98se
Hello all.
here are the facts:
I have:2 PCs with Win98SE,ADSL USB Alcatel ,2 linksys phonenet(2 Network PCI cards,and crossover cat5 cable.)I had it connected with my 56 internal modem on one PC and it was allworking(i think).
Anyway now i have the ADSL connection and i have the USB modem(or should i call it router?).I want to set it all up from scratch so please advise me for the following:
1.Can i set up the above and also have the firewall setup so that it protects both pcs?
2.Do i need to buy some hub or switch,or is it all possible with what i have?
3.What would be the best option to create the network i described?Should i go for something else?How much it would cost?
4.Please take into account that i am not very good with computers,and i have litlle tech knowhow.
5.I also tried to use ICS from windows but with no luck.propably something with the USB modem that is incompatible?If you have any advise on that ,is welcome.
6.VPNis it an option for me?I have only 2 PCs .
Please include in your answer as much detail as possible ,especially on how to set up the ip addresses and what protocols to use .I hope i make some sense .Anyway thanks for your time,best regards
G.Soilis

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by Alpha-Male In reply to 2PCs 1 with USB ADSL ,net ...

This is a series of questions that has *volumes* written about it, so I'll give basic answers then point you to a few sites that may help.

1) Sure you can. There are many ways this can be accomplished...with both software and hardware solutions.
2) You will need a hardware or software "DSL Router" - either a box like is offered by Linksys, Netgear, etc or you'll need to set up software that will create a virtual router on one of your machines.

3) You can get the DSL routers at a range of prices. $100-150 seems average. I'd venture $50 on Ebay. You can take a look under Hubs, Routers and Switches here on CNET for product reviews, etc.
http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-1037.html?tag=dir
(make sure to delete any spaces in the URL)
This is a fairly simple, inexpensive and efficient way to set up your LAN/Share your internet connection.

4) These are really designed for "home users" and you should be up and running in no time. Perhaps in the reviews watch for ones that are"easy to configure" and well documented. I seem to recall I heard really good things about the Linksys products for simplicity/easy of use.

5) It also may be that the Alcatel uses PPPOE and it may be causing some issues...
You may want to take alook at MS Tech Support site and search under ICS, PPPOE, DSL for Win 98.

6) You *can* set up a VPN. I'm not sure why you need it, but if you give me more details I'll try to point you in the right direction.

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by Alpha-Male In reply to 2PCs 1 with USB ADSL ,net ...

The protocol you'll use is TCP/IP. The router will offer you details on setting up your IP addresses (probably through NAT which will offer a very basic degree of protection to your internal machines. They'll have private IP addresses and only the public interface on the router will be visible to the outside world). This is NOT a full blown firewall, but it's a start. Almost certainly your ISP will be providing you with a dynamic address that the router will grab via DHCP. Typically what you'llhave is your ISP's addy assigned and then internal non-routable addresses on the private interface (10.0.0.x or 192.168.x.x typically).

Here's a couple of web sites that offer a lot of information. Again, delete any spaces in the URL.

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/dsl.htm

http://cable-dsl.home.att.net/sharing.htm

Good Luck!

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by amieveryours In reply to 2PCs 1 with USB ADSL ,net ...

Your situation is not that hard to setup and figure out at all.

All you need is:
1) USB ADSL Modem
2) 2 Network Cards
3) one crossover cat5 cable

1st) install the netword card in each computer and setup a private ip address for computer A. For computer A try 192.168.10.1 with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and computer B set it to DHCP.
2nd) connect the two computer via the crossover cat5 cable
3rd) check to make sure you install the client for microsoft network in each of the network card properties. if it is correct then every time you boot the computer up it will ask for a username and password. just setup whatever password and username you want. for computer B it will says it can't obtain the IP Address from DHCP server. Ignore the message for now
4th) setup and install the ADSL modem via the instruction that came with it. for now just try to get computer A to get on the internet.
5) install ICS on computer A. when you install ICS it also create a DHCP server for computer A so when the next time computer B boot up it will get all its setting from computer A and should get online just fine.

I've set this before for my friend and his works just fine with what you have. if you want thorough step by step and troubleshooting please e-mail me and let me know. I will walk you through it all the way.

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by Shanghai Sam In reply to 2PCs 1 with USB ADSL ,net ...

Problems i faced:step 1:do i have to set anything else in the dialog for the IP address on the server or the client?
2>:done.
3:microsoft client installed and set to "log on and restore network connections"
Alcatel speedtouch USB ADSL PPP with the properties binded to NDISWAN ->AlcatelUSB PPP.
then the Dialup adapter properties say it is binded to TCP/IP->Dialup adapter and also that it is binded to ICS(protocol)->Dialup adapter.
then follow some entries marked sharing,or home and then the NDISWAN->Alcatel USB which has empty binding box.
So this was the server.Is it correct?I see a problem because NDISWAN (which i have no idea what it is is not binded with anything.I suspect there should be there something .Any ideas?
Also pleasenote i am asking about usb adsl modem wich uses PPPoA not PPPoE or anything else.(I read someplace this is important thats why i right it here.I havve no clue what it is)

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by rawright In reply to 2PCs 1 with USB ADSL ,net ...

You can find a step-by-step solution here: http://www.microsoft.com/INSIDER/ARTICLES/ics.htm

This covers the basics, but instead of setting up a dialup connection on the host, you'll need to select the USB modem. The PC running ICS must have its NIC addressed at 192.168.0.1 w/ subnet 255.255.255.0. ICS will assign addresses to the client PCs automatically. There is no reason that the USB modem will not work - the Alcatel unit is a good one, and very reliable.

You don't need or want VPN - you're not connecting over an insecure line, just within your site. I would strongly urge you to download the free version of ZoneAlarm for firewall protection, though, and consider paying the tiny cost for the Pro version upgrade - it's well worth the cost.

Feel free to email me or use the comments option here if you need more detail than the article above provides. The first few times setting this stuff up can be intimidating, as I well remember!

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