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A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with SB Live

By davem ·
A while back I upgraded my PII to an AMD Athlone. The parts that changed were:

Intel BX m/b -> A-Bit K7 m/b
RAM (now have 12ns SDRAM)
case & power supply

My video card (Asus GeForce 2 V7700 Deluxe) and sound card (Sound Blaster Live! Gamer -the older version, not the later 5.1 card), as well as hard drives, etc. came over with me.

When using the PII, I was running Win2K without any problems. On upgrading, Win2K kept falling over - both stop errors and ccomplete freezes). Tried reinstalling ontop of current system - no luck. Tried a fresh install - fine until I started adding video & sound drivers.

Went back to WinME. Managed to get it up - limping, but useable.Same problem, though - PC keeps on freezing.

Obviously I've updated drivers, etc. A later BIOS update sorted out one problem - my LS 120 wasn't being recognised by WinME as the A: drive. That has now been corrected.

Also, it seems that while the BIOS updates haven't solved the problem they have made things more bearable. One of the updates mentioned that it should solve clashes with SB Live 5.1 cards.

I'm pretty convinced that this is the problem - if I disable sound, then everything else is fine - no crashes. As soon as sound is enabled, after 30 sec - 5 min, the PC freezes. However, if I have a game running in the background (i.e. controlling the sound output), then the system is less likely to freeze - I've used it like that for 4 to 6 hours running.

Of course trying to get help from either Creative or A-Bit (http://www.abit-usa.com/) is like pulling teeth - no response at all.

What I'm hoping someone will provide is confirmation whether this is or is not the problem (either from personal experience, hearsay, etc) and ideas of whatelse I can try.

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by dmiles In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

Check the motherboard manual or Device Manager and see if the motherboard has on board sound,it will need to be disabled in the BIOS configuration panel.
Open CMOS control panel at startup and locate the onboard sound configuration and disable.
Check the Device manager to see what drivers are sound card is listed and if their is a yellow exclamation mark.

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by davem In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

Nope - no onboard sound. There is only 1 sound device - the SB live, which, unless I've disabled it (see original question), works fine - when the PC works.

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by davem In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

Nope - no onboard sound. There is only 1 sound device - the SB live, which, unless I've disabled it (see original question), works fine - when the PC works.

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by richard_barsby In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

Hi we had a similar problem with these devices and if I remember correctly it was to do with the legacy support in the sound card we disabled this and everything was OK but we could not run DOS applications with legacy sound support.

Hope this helps

Rich

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by davem In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

OK, so how did you disable legacy support? There's nothing in the config.sys or autoexec.bat, apart from the path and a few "Set"'s.

That does sound like something I've read in some knowledge base - either Creative's or Microsoft's, I think, but as I said, I'm running in WinME (which makes getting to "pure" DOS very difficult", and can't see anywhere in the Windows drivers or sound config applets to disable legacy support.

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by eBob In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

I have seen this before and thought it a conflict with IRQs and like that at the M/B. I resolved it by:
- remove the SB from Control Panel...Device Manager
- shut down completely
- physically remove card (note which slot it is in)
- reboot
- shut down again
- install card in a different slot
- reboot and PnP "should" see the card (otherwise try installing manually)

All M/B manuals that I have seen (Asus, Tyan, A-Bit, etc.) all talk about how they "pool" interrupts for the PCI slots, and that this MAY cause conflicts. Swapping will OFTEN resolve this.

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by davem In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

Yeah - I've also heard of this, and I should have mentioned in the original question that I tried moving cards around - sorry about that. My m/b has 5 PCI slots, and I've tried each. I've also changed the BIOS from "PLug 'n' Play O/S" to none, fiddled with the IRQ's assigned to each PCI card, all which didn't help.

Also, any other PCI card works in any slot.

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by aalkadi In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

start the computer in the safe mode.
go to the device manager at system.
choose sb emulation. check the box with allow
sharing printer poort.

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by davem In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

See comments below

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by richard_barsby In reply to A-Bit K7 BIOS clash with ...

Hi Answer 4 will probably work if not disable legacy it is in Creative Misc Devices as SB Emulation. Sorry for not enough info 1st time around

Rich.

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