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    A Christmas present from me

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    by neilb@uk ·

    Part of the wonderful celebration that is Christmas is the office party with its associated binge drinking. Now, binge drinking – as you’re all old enough to know (better) – thrashes your liver and kidneys, gives you an upset stomach, a huge headache, a gross-tasting mouth and (if you’re really stupid) guilt. The latter I can’t help with but for the rest, help is at hand.

    As some of you know – those who’ve read my bio – I was once a biochemist. What follows is the scientific rationale for the symptoms of a hangover (except guilt) and the equally scientific treatment.

    Alcohol is a fairly clean substance and its only DIRECT effects are as a diuretic ? makes you pee more than you drink so dehydrates you. The main symptoms of your hangover are caused the toxic by-products of alcohol metabolism (breakdown) ? initially free radicals and then mainly a poisonous substance called acetaldehyde. Free radicals are usually mopped up by an enzyme called glutathione but a booze binge will deplete resources of this enzyme. Although hangovers eventually go away on their own as the acetaldehyde is further broken down we will try to do something to alleviate the effects. Research shows that the worst part of the hangover is thought to be the poisoning by acetaldehyde and this is then combined with dehydration, mineral depletion and Vitamin A, B and C depletion.

    This makes you feel BAD.

    In addition, impurities called congeners poison you. I’ll use the common names. Ethyl alcohol gets you pissed; amyl, butyl, methyl, propyl and isopropyl alcohols – which are also found in most drinks to varying degrees – don’t get you pissed and also make you feel bad. The concentration of congeners will go some way to determining the severity of the hangover. The “darker the drink – the worse the hangover” might be an old wives tale but, believe me, it is true. It’s also worth taking on board that, generally, the “cheaper the drink – the worse the hangover” is also true. Choose your booze with care!

    Now, you are feeling WORSE!

    But what can I DO?

    Before you go out, do your very best to eat something. A marathon-runners meal of pasta, loading yourself with starches and minerals isn’t going to happen but SOME food in your stomach will absorb some of the alcohol and even out the absorption once you do get stuck in. Hydrate your body. Chug some orange juice or water. Each glass you take at the beginning of the evening will be one less glass in the morning!

    Get the hangover cure ready before you go out. Your morning self will thank you so much.

    OK, so you’ve really tied one on so now we’re going to do what we can BEFORE bed…

    Have a pee. Doesn’t do much but just saves one trip to the bathroom. Drink as much as you can ? orange juice is preferable for the sugar (see below) ? but water will do and especially if you add a teaspoon of salt and two of sugar per pint. DO NOT take painkillers! Aspirin is not good on an empty stomach and Acetaminophen (UK = Paracetamol, US=Tylenol) is bad for the liver and should NOT be taken while you have a lot of alcohol in your system. If you have vitamin supplements, take some! If you have some Berocca (and I do! See below), for God?s sake take some! Go to bed.

    Now it?s the morning. This is NOT good! So, as many of these as you can cope with.

    What you’re trying to do is put back stuff that you took out and get rid of stuff that you put in. The liver took most of the hit as it alone can metabolise alcohol and so it will do most of the work getting rid so it would like some fructose (fruit sugar) please. That’s honey or buy some Fructose tablets from the chemist (or drugstore).

    Vitamin B6. You haven’t got any? Tough. Send someone out but get some! Buy some now! In the UK there is a vitamin supplement called Berocca (made by Bayer and sold at Boots) which puts the vitamin B back in. It’s drunk in a big glass of water which is also good for the dehydration. It is brilliant! It?s big in Oz as well but I don?t know if you American sorts can get it.

    One very useful substance if you need a clear head in the morning is N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC), an amino acid supplement sold in health food stores. This is extremely good at mopping up the free radicals that have built up in the liver because it is rich in cysteine, an amino acid that is used by the body in the manufacture of free radical-eliminating glutathione.

    Normal Coca Cola is OK but decaff is preferred unless that is all you have. Diet isn?t much use as caffeine is a diuretic and so makes you pee more of that precious fluid away so it does less good than water. Coke is fizzy so it will settle the nausea if you can get it down, has water for the dehydration and sugar to raise your low blood sugar level and help the liver. If you have to have a caffeine hit then it may make you feel better but keep drinking other stuff as the effect of caffeine is not a good one.

    Tea is better than coffee. There are no bubbles to help ease the nausea but is liquid, chock full of anti-oxidants and the caffeine level is half that of coffee. Take black or green tea with honey even if you don’t usually take sugar – as this is fructose and is absorbed quicker than normal sugar.

    The need for coffee is psychological. If you?ve got to have it, then have it – but fruit juice would be better!

    Breakfast! Something ? anything – in your stomach is good, and salty is even better AND you get a Vitamin top up. Fruit is good (for the fructose). Best of all, bananas which have sugar in the form of fructose, very high potassium (you peed a lot of that away last night), natural antacid to settle the nausea and high magnesium which can help relax your blood vessels and ease the headache.

    Apparently the best quick cure food is a peanut butter, honey and banana sandwich on white bread – washed down by decaffeinated Coke. If you can eat that then do you really have a hangover?

    Painkillers are OK in the morning ? whatever reduces the rocking of your boat.

    Vitamin C is something to put back in as soon as possible. Chug a litre of orange or tomato juice, take a 1000mg Vitamin C tablet, just get it down.

    A very hot bath – even better, a sauna – will sweat out some of the toxins that are causing all the problems. You may feel woozy at first but stick with it and you’ll feel better afterwards. A hot shower targeted at the back of your neck will help to reduce tension headache.

    Now go back to bed. Last night was not sleep but was unconsciousness which isn?t the same. Call in sick. You ARE sick as any Doctor would tell you. You have been poisoned and the fact that is self-inflicted doesn?t change that.

    Merry Christmas

    Neil

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    • #2545190

      Sorry, never touch the stuff

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      Aren’t I screwed up enough for you when I’m sober?

      • #2544997

        Me neither

        by gsg ·

        In reply to Sorry, never touch the stuff

        Actually, I may have 1 small drink every couple of years, and I do cook with the stuff, but I was drunk once and did not appreciate the after effects. I have more fun drinking a soda and watching others make fools of themselves.

    • #2545187

      One of these days

      by tig2 ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      I will simply print that off and send it instead of Christmas cards! It’s brilliant and my favourite gift of the holiday season.

      Merry f*cking Christmas, Sweetie!
      😡

      • #2545181

        This is new and improved

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to One of these days

        Somebody mentioned the cysteine to me so I researched it a bit and discovered the glutathione link…

        Secular Seasonal Greetings to you , too!

        :p

    • #2545180

      Neil, dear…..

      by gadgetgirl ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      there are times, though few and far between, when I actually remember why I like you…..

      Saved, and will be printed nearer the time, and stuck on the kitchen noticeboard.

      (nothing on there that’s likely to affect my stupid tum, is there?)

      Christmas planned? You sorted?

      ta muchly, petal. Ho! Ho! Ho! Merry effin’ Christmas!

      😡

      GG
      ]:)

      • #2545161

        Family do up in the Midlands

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Neil, dear…..

        I will almost certainly drink too much but will have my pack of Berocca so I can practice what I preach. This is the one thing that I would recommend above all others!

        I think you should be OK.Ingredients (according to Beyer) are:

        Thiamine nitrate – Vitamin B1
        Riboflavine sodium phosphate – Vitamin B2
        Nicotinamide – Vitamin B3
        Calcium pantothenate – Vitamin B5
        Pyridoxine hydrochloride – Vitamin B6
        Cyanocobalamin – Vitamin B12
        Biotin – Vitamin B7 or H
        Ascorbic Acid – Vitamin C
        Calcium carbonate – Calcium
        Sucrose – Sugar
        Sodium Chloride – Salt

        Obviously the Full English is probably not an option for you – you have my sympathy – but most of the other stuff should be OK.

        😡

    • #2545177

      I should

      by maecuff ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      do a needle point of this and hang it in my kitchen. Well, I would if I actually had the patience to needle point.

      Instead, I’ll try to commit it to memory.

      Merry Christmas right back atcha.. 🙂

    • #2545164

      My unscientific university days hangover cure….

      by jamesrl ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      Was MacDonalds….

      I always drank water before going to bed. In later years I start to drink water an hour before I plan to leave the party.

      In the morning my body seemed to crave grease so I’d go to MacDonalds for a Sausage McMuffin with Cheese, coffee and OJ. Always worked for me.

      You haven’t commented on the myth about mixed drinks – that they were worse for you than straight alcohol. I always had better luck with single malt than beer.

      Its a somewhat academic exercise now because even when I am not driving , I don’t drink to excess anymore.

      James

    • #2545160

      Cheers, mate!

      by oz_media ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      I agree with quality making a huge difference, so I always drink quality booze, and found that it helps big time! Cheap booze and I’m done for in the morning.

      With highballs, is it all the sugar from mixed liquers that is so nasty? I gave up drinking those sweet, umbrella drinks years ago and found that hard booze (Scotch straight etc.) is far easy to deal with.

      I have always chugged a few litres of water before bed, and lately have had a few cups of tea before I leave the party/bar/racetrack/alley I’m laying in, but I usually take a multivitamin and a couple of Tylenol, I find the Tylenol helps with that midnight headache I wake up to, having severe kneck and back problems, I find that’s the part that kills me. Perhaps not such a great idea afterall?

      Mornings, toast and jam seems to go down well, and if I have ginger ale (Canada Dry of course), that helps settle the churning gut.

      As for pre booxing food, I’ve found a good fry up works like a charm…at least for helping it go down. Nothing like a gut full of fried bacon, eggs, hash browns etc. A big stuffin’ before drinking. (NOT for the morning though).

      Thanks for the tips and the detailed explanations, drinking advice from a Brit is always solid…well, AFTER drinking advice is anyway, it’s the “c’mon, try the yard glass” advice that causes rouble.

      • #2545125

        Ozzie, dear

        by tig2 ·

        In reply to Cheers, mate!

        If you must take a painkiller, Tylenol is a bad answer. Even the Midol bottle (contains acetaminophen) warns against using with alcohol. Your best choice is plain aspirin.

        • #2545087

          Can’t take Aspirin

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Ozzie, dear

          I have lived o Tylenol since I was about 13. When drinking I don’t take anything more than an over the counter Extra Strength Tylenol, I normally eat T3’s like smarties though, my tolrance to Tylenol makes then about as useful as a handful of ibuprofen.

          Midol is a second best too, when out of Tylenol I’ll find a women with mydol, too bad it is only marketed towards women, that’s stuff is great for headaches.

          My problems are not really headaches but severe pain in my kneck and spine, common drugs just don’t cut it these days it seems. I know it’s bad but I have been known to wash down Tylenol with beer or scotch, whatever is handy.

        • #2545056

          Just be careful

          by tig2 ·

          In reply to Can’t take Aspirin

          It really is toxic to the liver in combination with alcohol. But being aware of that is the first step.

          I understand about chronic pain. Unfortunately, you’re already doing the best you can do for it. Anything that lets you get through the day is not a bad thing.

        • #2545002

          :)

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Just be careful

          Thanks but just to be clear, I am not saying that pharmeceuticals and hard alcohol are what it takes to get me through the day. 😀

          But they do cross from time to time, my bad, and thank you for the heads up and the reminder, I know what I shouldn’t do, but don’t listen to myself much. 😉

    • #2545150

      not fer me. :(

      by jaqui ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      since I don’t touch that poison.

      and Mary kiss my a$$ to you to.
      clappy new year.
      and all that rot.
      [ if you knew the Mary I do, that would be quite likely ]:) ]

    • #2545054

      Advice from my dad

      by leee ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      Before I went to college, my dad gave me a very useful piece of advice:

      Wine before liquor, never sicker. Liquor before beer, you’re in the clear.

      He also told me to make myself throw up before going to bed if I’ve been drinking.

      Not sure which part of the advice it was, my metabolism, or genetics, but I was able to drink many guys under the table and never have a hangover.

      • #2544947

        but I was able to drink many guys under the table

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Advice from my dad

        If you ever run out of ice and snow and decide to visit Canada, I’d like to at least have a go.

        Not that I’m suggesting I’d drink you under the table by any means, but any lady that can drink like that is welcome to share my table. 🙂

      • #2545779

        Leee, you really, really

        by jaqui ·

        In reply to Advice from my dad

        have to be carefull how you word something on here.
        you never know what the proverts on here will think about something.

        [ remember, I’m the biggest PROfessional perVERT here ]:) and you really don’t want to know where my mind went with that drinking many guys under the table comment ]

    • #2545035

      Just brilliant, Neil!

      by techexec2 ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      .
      I remember this from last year. It’s a great gift you give. Thank you very much and cheers to you, mate!

      Merry Christmas!

      P.S. As you may know, here in the ‘States there is a “politically correct” movement to say “Happy Holidays”. When they say that to me, I always reply with “Merry Christmas”! :^0 It’s tradition and I won’t give it up. Of course, I respect other traditions as well and wish them accordingly if I know they observe them.

      One city even tried to get Santa to stop saying “Ho Ho Ho” because of the connotation of the slang “ho”. Some people… Cheers!

    • #2544985

      The most effective cure I’ve ever had

      by tony hopkinson ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      was scrambled egg on toast
      washed down with a pint of Riesling. A nice crisp Austrailian Chardonnay will do at a pinch, but it seems a pity to waste such a nice tipple when you can’t taste it.

      Either way do this about nine and you’ll be nicely up to speed for an 11:00 am start on the next session.

      • #2544953

        Ahh hair of the dog option

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to The most effective cure I’ve ever had

        Always a good option if you are not back to work, or don’t have a lot of work to do AT work.

        Just make sure you don’t roll off the couch to guzzle a stale beer off the coffee table and end up drinking the cigarrette butts dropped in it last night. Not that I have ever done that or anything….in many years anyhow.

        • #2544677

          Never that desparate

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Ahh hair of the dog option

          But in my university days we used to call warm beer and cold pizza the “breakfast of champions”. But I never drank a beer I didn’t open myself.

          James

        • #2544673

          The true “Breakfast of Champions”

          by tig2 ·

          In reply to Never that desparate

          When I worked Ren Faire, it was Wheaties and Guinness. And after some of those nights, you needed it.

          Not a beer drinker. Maybe that has saved me???

        • #2544646

          Just picking up where I’d left off

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Never that desparate

          ROlled over on the couch, looked at the table, saw what I thought was my beer froma few minutes ago and took a swig in dehydrated desparation. ICK!

          Was quite a few years ago now, when I was still in mass party mode.

        • #2545758

          You have to be careful with that sort of thing

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to Never that desparate

          Sometimes it tastes like stale beer, but it isn’t. :p

        • #2545670

          Second-hand beer

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to You have to be careful with that sort of thing

          Pre-owned.

          Doesn’t improve it in any way…

        • #2473291

          neil, what do you

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Second-hand beer

          think they sell in the US?
          anything with that little flavour can’t be anything but secondhand beer.

    • #2545869

      A person who got drunk….

      by onbliss ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      …is s/he going to remember all that you said 🙂 ?

      • #2545811

        Well,,,,

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to A person who got drunk….

        Some of the tips are what to do [b]before[/b] you go out and that includes getting the hangover cure ready. If you go to bed too drunk to do anything, the hangover will be worse but at least you will welcome some (self)help in the morning.

        Speaking as someone who has suffered hangovers in the past, I’ll do ANYTHING the following morning.

        Neil 😀

        • #2545807

          you know, even before

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Well,,,,

          I stopped drinking, I never got hangovers.

          Though I have been sober the next day after a night out and gotten absolutely potted from water. I was so dehydrated that the booze needed water back into the system to have any effect. ]:)

    • #2631252

      Very informative

      by rob miners ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      and really appreciated. I have liver problems and you certainly pointed a few things out for me that I was not aware of.
      PS. I only drink light beer now.

      Have a Merry Christmas.
      Rob

    • #2631218

      And for Smokers

      by the scummy one ·

      In reply to A Christmas present from me

      especially those who smoke more while drinking, I have found that a glass of Aloe Vera helps the sore throat.

      Yes, A. Vera is edible and it is full of amino acids, vitamins, and minerals.

      It is mostly tasteless, however there is an ‘odd’ aftertaste. But this aftertaste can be mostly ridden by taking a couple puffs on a smoke after drinking it. Or, by using almost any chaser.

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