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by cactus pete
You might want to look at "seeding" copy the data to additional hardware, and send the hardware over. Then when you're making additions to the backups [not always fully resynching, I hope] that much traffic will fit over your pipes.
If you are doing full backups each night, you might consider changing strategies. Rather than spending the money on a fatter pipe, perhaps you want something like eVault to run your backups. We now backup each site locally, then backup the backups to the remote sites.
The % change for the backups is relatively small and easily fits over one to four T-1s. (several remote offices of various sizes)
I'm not associated with eVault, but we somewhat recently moved to their technologies (away from Veritas) and the whole team is rather enthusiastic about how much faster and easier the backups have become. When I find software like that, I share it.
From a support viewpoint, they have also been great. I highly recommend looking into them (or someone ith technology like theirs) before throwing money at a bigger pipe.
by boriqua1
Sync'ng the hardware locally then shipping it to the remote location is actually the smarter idea. Changes (or differentials) can be done overnight across the WAN. If there were a mass disaster then we can always restore from tape, but anything else can be done from SAN to SAN. Full disk-to-disk backups would still be a viable solution, just resync only what has changed and should be okay.
Thanks so much for your input, Dpetrak!
by hgreen
by boriqua1
by mgluscevic
Is it possible to make several transaction log backups for SQL, for example every 30 min., copy them across WAN and restore on DR site ?
Regards,
by muratanur
We do use Rsync todo incremental backups with the
security of SCP command. Also we do backup only
data and information and when things go wrong we
do not bother to restore the data we simply mount
the this directories over the wan as samba/nfs
directories. We do backup multiple servers this
way and it doesn't let us down
by icarlock
I do not know which is your storage hw, what kind of arrays you have (if any). If you have arrays enabled with iSCSI and you can use them to do replication via ip altogether with suitable software. I can tell at least of one: EMC's Incremental Sancopy. Using that you dont have to do full copies all night, it will just copy the data that has changed the night before, so I think that could help with the bw problem.
Thanks
by owen.payne
by ogroup
Evault has a good product and it works very well, if you are interested let me know, and we can discuss or talk over the phone. Email me your personal or company contact infomration.
Bob
by leishirsute
NetApp storage works in a SAN and NAS environment simultaneously and its disk to disk backup is at the block level. So, its use of WAN backup is optimized. The federal government loves using this technology for local central repositories that store repllicated backups from remote locations.
by james
First and foremost your management team should find answers to the following questions prior to accepting the current mode of operating your data stores:
What data needs to be backed up and why?
When does the data need to be backed up and why?
When and/or how often does the backed up data need to be accessed and why?
What is the physical distance to manage an offsite storage solution that makes sense to your business?
A professionally developed business contingency plan will answer the questions above - plus dozens more.
Thank you,
James.
There are two software programs I will suggest. I have looked into them both, and am deciding to go with NSI Double Take. The other is Legato.
Both of these will backup your data to a remote site at the bit level. This is especially great for SQL, since you do not need to backup the whole DB across the WAN everynight. The system will send the updates instantly.
You can have your DR site running in less than 30 minutes.
by jedibri
Ditto on the recommendation for NSI Software's Double-Take. You might want to do some I/O profiling to determine how much bandwidth real-time replication will consume. Double-Take gives you read access of the replication target, so you can backup the target with no disruption to the source server. You can also fail services over to the target.
HP recently announced WAN Accelerators that increases throughput up to 100x in environments where latency and application 'chattiness' is high, or up to 20x in environments where latency is low. Testing has yielded over 15Mb/s over a T1 line. Models are available for connection speeds ranging from 512Kb/s to 45Mb/s.
by psivakumar1
by dprouty
Signiant has a white paper that takes a look at wide area backup best practices.
www.signiant.com/documents/WhitePaper_RemoteDataBestPractices2005.pdf
Their Mobilize product automatically initiates backup consolidation on a scheduled or event-driven basis. It identifies changes made to remote files since the last backup and moves only the bytes of those files that have changed to the central site. They have a calculator tool that will estimate the process time.
by williamtg
by plinden
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by nisar.khan
The DS3 would give a throughput of 2.25 MB/sec of actual data transfer rate. Depending upon your current data size of 1200 GB and I ssume incremental growth of 12 GB daily, it would take 75 hours for a full transfer and 0.65 hours for incremental data to be transfered.
You need a REO4000 2TB box at both ends with the REO Multi-site Pac option providing you byte level incremental transfers with compression capabilities. The cost sums up to around 9000 $ per site.
by bobwon
Have you looked into what FalconStor has to offer?They offer replication as well as remote asynchronous replication for heterogeneous storage environments.
They should be able to provide you with multiple options for replicating.
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