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January 18, 2023 at 11:02 am #4024355
Administrator account
by doniel · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
Windows 11 Pro
The lines under my user name show Local Account and, on the line below it, Administrator. However, my account doesn’t function as an administrator.
Settings, Accounts, Family: No user names whatsoever appear, not mine and not the hidden Administrator account which I enabled.
I tried changing my account type with Command Prompt and with PowerShell. In both cases, a message was displayed that the account is already a member of the group.
I changed my account to standard, in User Accounts and then switched to the Administrator account to change my account to Administrator. But I found myself right back where I started. Local Account and Administrator.-
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January 18, 2023 at 11:15 am #4024357
Tell a little more.
by rproffitt · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to Administrator account
What administrator action isn’t working?
Sometimes folk get confused about this when they try to delete a folder and it won’t. They write “but I’m a administrator.” That’s a permissions issue and not about your account type.
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January 18, 2023 at 12:17 pm #4024377
Reply To: Administrator account
by doniel · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to Tell a little more.
There are programs that I installed that fail to launch if I try to run them normally, but if I click on Run as administrator, they work fine.
But you’ve touched on a second issue. IS there a way to obtain permission on all folders and files – a one-time action that eliminates all the headaches associated with items that defy deletion? Even after I disabled OneDrive from starting up with Windows, it kept reenabling itself. It took me quite some time until I managed to change permissions on the executable and rename it so that it would no longer be able to start up.
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January 18, 2023 at 1:16 pm #4024420
Apps that won’t launch.
by rproffitt · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to Reply To: Administrator account
Is something you take up with the authors.
Since I don’t have an app name, I can’t look into this.
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January 18, 2023 at 1:52 pm #4024426
Reply To: Administrator account
by doniel · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to Apps that won’t launch.
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January 18, 2023 at 2:09 pm #4024434
Unsure what the question is.
by rproffitt · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to Reply To: Administrator account
Maybe it’s the old question of why an admin can’t delete files without:
1. Changing file permissions.
2. Booting Safe Mode.
3. Or dealing with system protected files and folders.
4. How to delete files that are in-use.I don’t want to upset you but admin isn’t root like we have in Linux.
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January 18, 2023 at 3:06 pm #4024471
To clarify
by doniel · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to Unsure what the question is.
I wasn’t tying the question to my administrator status. I’m asking a general Windows question. Is there a way to change a setting or do anything else that will grant me full control over all files and folders so that if I want to delete one, I’ll just click on Delete and Presto! it’s gone?
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January 18, 2023 at 3:59 pm #4024492
Keep in mind Windows does not have a “root” style account.
by rproffitt · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to To clarify
So the answer is no. Even an administrator must obey file, folder and system permissions. But as an administrator you can change permissions and delete most files. Except in-use and system protected files which can require more than one method to remove.
That said, a long time ago when I was new to Windows I did use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMCO_MoveOnBoot
It would be a very bad idea to give root style power to Windows administrators. The fallout would be more trashed OSes with the owners blaming Microsoft.
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January 18, 2023 at 4:54 pm #4024513
UnlockIT
by doniel · about 2 weeks, 6 days ago
In reply to Keep in mind Windows does not have a “root” style account.
Thank you for that. I’ve installed it. Now all I have to do is remember that I have it and what it’s called when I need it. 🙂
Managing permissions manually can be a real pain. It can get tricky with inherited permissions and other complications.
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February 5, 2023 at 9:01 am #4032594
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February 5, 2023 at 10:50 am #4032616
Same here with the click.
by rproffitt · about 2 days, 13 hours ago
In reply to Here’s one for you, Bob
If I click on Foxit, it does not launch. And mind you with computers we have to be VERY specific about problem descriptions.
A single click on some desktop icon or file in Windows File Explorer means “Select” and not “Launch.”
For a click to open you could right single click, move the mouse to Run as admin and single click that.
Please everyone, be specific about the problem descriptions.
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Usually all I need to do to fix permissions like this is either:
1. Uninstall and reinstall the app.
2. Use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall the app then use Ninite.com to reinstall. -
February 5, 2023 at 4:16 pm #4032695
It didn’t occur to me that that would confuse you
by doniel · about 2 days, 7 hours ago
In reply to Same here with the click.
Since (and including) Win8.1, I’ve been using programs that mimic the Start menu of earlier versions of Windows. Now, it’s Start X Menu. Clicking on Start brings up a list of all installed programs, and it only requires one click on a program to launch it.
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February 5, 2023 at 6:40 pm #4032729
Not a matter of confusion.
by rproffitt · about 2 days, 5 hours ago
In reply to It didn’t occur to me that that would confuse you
It’s about problem description.
That aside, I have to defer to the Start X support because we don’t use it at home or office.
And I can’t guess which Start X this is. A google about Start X for Windows doesn’t narrow it down. Again, it’s all about problem description along with what/how Windows is not stock.
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February 5, 2023 at 8:12 pm #4032759
Support is problematic
by doniel · about 2 days, 3 hours ago
In reply to Not a matter of confusion.
One can only be clearer if he knows there’s a problem. I didn’t realize that google would return so many results. Did you search on “Start Menu X”? (I do take the blame for referring to it as Start X Menu.)
The company behind it is in Ukraine, and they have limited Internet access. So no help is coming from there for now. -
February 5, 2023 at 9:17 pm #4032783
Another related question
by doniel · about 2 days, 2 hours ago
In reply to Support is problematic
I installed a sound booster called EarTrumpet a while back. It can’t be uninstalled as usual because it doesn’t show up in the list of installed programs. I found it in the registry, but I’m unable to delete it or modify it – regedit displays a message that it can’t write the new value. Even running regedit as an administrator didn’t work.
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February 5, 2023 at 9:40 pm #4032787
Let’s talk about the registry a moment.
by rproffitt · about 2 days, 2 hours ago
In reply to Another related question
Even the Registry keys have security and access rights. This is just like files which even as Administrator you don’t have god like powers to delete if the permissions block you.
Here’s a tutorial on altering those permissions, taking ownership of a registry item.
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February 6, 2023 at 6:55 am #4032944
Where’s “here”?
by doniel · about 1 day, 16 hours ago
In reply to Let’s talk about the registry a moment.
You forgot to give the link.
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February 6, 2023 at 10:22 am #4033034
About registry permissions, etc.
by rproffitt · about 1 day, 13 hours ago
In reply to Where’s “here”?
https://www.groovypost.com/howto/take-full-permissions-control-edit-protected-registry-keys/
Let’s see if this makes it here.
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February 7, 2023 at 8:49 pm #4033725
Thanks, Bob
by doniel · about 3 hours ago
In reply to About registry permissions, etc.
Registry keys changed.
I’ll post here again when I come across another program that will only launch when Run as an administrator.
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February 7, 2023 at 11:38 am #4033514
Reply To: Administrator account
by anawilliam850 · about 12 hours, 12 minutes ago
In reply to Administrator account
To resolve this issue, try the following steps:
Log in as an administrator: If you have another admin account, log in using that account and change your account type to administrator.
Use Group Policy Editor: Press Windows Key + R, type “gpedit.msc” in the Run dialog box and press Enter. In the Local Group Policy Editor, navigate to Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Security Settings > Local Policies > User Rights Assignment. Find “Act as part of the operating system” and add your account to it.
Use Registry Editor: Press Windows Key + R, type “regedit” in the Run dialog box and press Enter. In the Registry Editor, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon.
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February 7, 2023 at 1:56 pm #4033575
Thank you
by doniel · about 9 hours, 54 minutes ago
In reply to Reply To: Administrator account
First, my original post describes my attempts to change my account type to (just) Administrator (without Local Account).
Second, when you write “this issue,” could you clarify? Are you referring to my original question regarding getting my account to be strictly an Administrator account or do you mean my latest question pertaining to deleting a protected registry key?
Lastly, are Group Policy Editor and Registry Editor two different ways to accomplish the same thing or am I supposed to do both?
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