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Advice for New Grad

By casopasl ·
I am a new grad with 5 years experience with my current employer and I just finish my BSc. With my position (Net Admin for 200 users) in the Washington, DC, I am making $15k/per annum less than my counterparts in the region. The excuse for this has always been that fact that I didn't have a degree. Well now I do.

Can you good folks kindly give me some helpful advice on how to tactfully ask for just compensation without putting myself in a sticky situation?


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Well I have never been great at salary negotiation

by j.lupo In reply to Advice for New Grad

but here goes.

What I have always been told is:
Ask for a performance appraisal for possible performance based increase. At that time come prepared with documents stating and demonstrating WHY you deserve the raise. Make sure the majority is the value you have added, major projects completed, etc and slide in the completed degree.

If you have in writing that the reason you weren't paid more was the degree, then that is reason enough to request the pay/performance review. You now meet that requirement they provided to you.

Good Luck

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Strange situation

by JamesRL In reply to Well I have never been gr ...

I've always been a pay for performance kind of person. It was an issue at a few companies that I worked for that people were anticipating that if they got their MBA, they would be entitled to more salary. The policy was made very clear - a degree might help put you in a better position to earn a promotion or apply for a higher level job within the company, but on its own was not cause for a salary increase.

So the original posters issue is puzzling - sounds like descrimination if they can do the job as well as those with degrees.


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Missing the point

by amcol In reply to Advice for New Grad

A degree or a certification is not justification for a raise or to correct some perception of a discrepancy in pay parity. You get paid based on the value of the service you provide.

Yesterday you were a net admin with five years experience. Today you're a net admin with five years experience. The only difference between yesterday and today is that today you have a degree. Are you adding more value to your company because of that fact alone?

I'm going to guess the counterparts you're talking about that make $15k more than you are also net admins with five years experience. (Let's assume that for the sake of making this a little easier.) Are your duties the same as theirs? Are you responsible for the same breadth of service as them? Is your network topology as complex as theirs? Is your network as continuously available as theirs?

If the answers to all those questions are yes, then you've got a case for a raise. You can point to other people doing the same job as you, at the same level as you, in the same kind of company as you, providing the same value as you, but making more money than you.

However, don't bother going into management and saying people at your level with your education make more money than you and therefore on the basis of that alone you deserve a raise. You've been getting an excuse up until now, and they'll just come up with a new one.

One other thought...don't worry so much about being tactful. When asking for a raise or a promotion it's more important to be assertive than tactful. Tactful people are the ones who hear "no" a lot. Be tentative and you'll be dismissed. Be self-confident and you'll be respected. Your choice.

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Invaluable suggestion (thanks amcol)

by casopasl In reply to Missing the point

amcol wrote:
"Are your duties the same as theirs? Are you responsible for the same breadth of service as them? Is your network topology as complex as theirs? Is your network as continuously available as theirs?"

yes to all of the above...

I must also add that in addition to my net admin roles, I am also the company DBA, webmaster, and system security "expert". I guess this should give me a bit more leverage.

thanks again

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