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By acl33d ·
Hi to all experts out there, I have some doubts that I hope any help & advise will be valuable to me. I am helping my nephew on his gaming needs. What does it takes to built a robust gaming PC?
Is AMD or Intel PC most prefer for gaming? Apparently, AMD got heated out easily & you need some sort of water to be installed inside the system for cooling effect. Is that true? What kind of video card is recommended? My nephew is playing World of Warcraft and he is looking into building a system this weekend. Appreciate for any suggestions..

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I'm looking too

by Steffi28 In reply to All about gaming

I've been looking at building a new PC or maybe buying a new laptop, i play WOW very often too and i think the best graphics card thats value for money atm is the NVidia GoForce 7000 series thats what im looking at anyway, if hes looking for a good system for WOW 2g RAM is almost definitely needed 1g will suffice, but with the upcoming upgrade I think it will be better to have 2g. I dont know much more than that but ill be keeping an eye on your post cos im interested too :)

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OK here's some personal preferences for this

by Deadly Ernest In reply to All about gaming

First from the official web site the requirements are


PC System Requirements

* OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 4); Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
* Processor: Intel Pentium3 800MHz or AMD Athlon 800MHz
* Memory:
o 512 MB RAM,
o 1GB RAM is recommended
* Video:
o Minimum: 32MB 3D graphics processor with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as an NVIDIA GeForce 2 class card or above.
o Recommended: 64MB VRAM 3D graphics processor with Vertex and Pixel Shader capability, such as an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 class card or above.
* Sound: DirectX compatible sound card

Mac System Requirements

* OS: Mac OS X 10.3.9 or newer required
* Processor:
o 933MHz G4/G5 processor,
o 1.8GHz G5/Intel or better recommended
* RAM:
o 512MB RAM,
o 1GB DDR RAM is recommended
* Video:
o NVIDIA or ATI graphics processor with 32MB VRAM,
o 64MB VRAM recommended

All Platforms

* Controls: A keyboard and mouse are required. Input devices other than a mouse and keyboard are not supported
* Connectivity:You must have an active broadband internet connection to play.
* Mouse: Multi-button mouse with scroll wheel recommended.

Note: System Requirements are subject to change.

end quote

I'd go with an Intel P4 3 ghz machine with 4 GB RAM and one of the latest 256 MB graphics cards, and a very good monitor say 19" or 21" because the graphics is the majority of the game. A good sata drive and DVD player.

Don't, I say don't, buy a Dell, HP, IBM or any name brand PC - go to a local shop that will build this for you, ask around and find one with a good rep. Make sure they use generic parts. Problem with Dell, HP, etc is upgrades and spare parts later.

Now they say W2K or Win XP. Personally I'd try using Ubuntu Linux and buy Crossover to run it on first. But if you must go Windows, then Win 2K, it has less troubles with WGA than XP.

And a good, wide, high speed Broadband Internet, the faster, the less likely you'll get killed easily.

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by gsquared In reply to OK here's some personal p ...

Having actually played WoW on machines as specced by Ernest, I have to say they don't perform well.

Yes, they meet Blizzard's minimum, but the game-play ends up choppy.

Your connection speed is actually less important in WoW than your CPU. Blizzard put a heavy burden on the CPU and video card and has a very, very bandwidth-efficient game going. I've played on dial-up and it was a little choppy, but not as bad as with too little RAM or a low-RAM video card.

For the video card, unless you plan to turn off all the glitter and all the video options, don't go less than 128. Going below 256 Meg on the video card means you have to go with the default options. If you want the game to really look good and to have all the glitter (and, let's face it, video games are all about the glitter and glitz), go 512 on the video card.

Definitely don't go below P4/AMD Athlon on the CPU. The game will run, but it's more like the game will walk ... slowly. You won't get rear-ended by a glacier, but it can sure feel like it.

All of this is based on actual experience with World of Warcraft on about a dozen different computers.

(I built my current computer to top-of-the line specs, including 2 Gig of RAM, 3.2 GHz processor dual-core processor [violated my own advice on that one, but there are other things than games running on this machine], 512 Meg video card, SATA-2 [yes, I realize that's not the official name] HDD, etc., for about $600. Off-the-shelf, it would have cost closer to $3,000.)

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hey mate, please read the whole of my post - the low specs

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Underspecced

aren't mine, they're Blizzard's. Look at the bottom and you'll see I said they should go for a P4 3 ghz system etc, and after posting, I thought maybe I should change that to 512 MB video card. I don't play WoW, no broadband, but most of the people I know who do, play with 128 MB or 256 MB cards.

But I agree you got to concentrate on the graphics quality and performance as that's what all the modern games are about - the visual effects.

I do wish they'd sell a variant whereby I could set up a games server on my home LAN and play it with the family. I hate playing anything over the Internet.

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Another perspective

by JamesRL In reply to hey mate, please read the ...

Much depends on what people notice.

If you define your limits its easier to make a recommendation.

For example - eye candy. Some people notice great textures and AA/AF filtering, some people don't. Some would rather have great speed at 1024/768, others can't give up 1600x 1200.

Personally never played Warcraft, but I play a much more demanding online game - Battlefield 2.

For a time I had a 512 MB card of similar spec to 256 card I replaced, and noticed no difference at all. If I had the choice between 512 and slower graphics processor versus 256 and faster one, there is no doubt in my mind which one I would choose -the one with the better GPU.

The most important thing is the Graphics card, followed by the RAM, then the CPU with Graphics cards, the better the graphics processor, the better the card, with some caveats. Some manufacturers sell dumbed down cards - where they make a cheaper card by reducing the number of pipelines into the same processor. Not all cards are equal.


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Dumbed downed cards

by Bagmaster50 In reply to Another perspective

There are a lot of tools out that will help with the dumbed down cards. Some manufacturers turn off some of the pipes and in the case of a lot of the Nvidia cards turn off the temp sensor, which is needed for hard-core gaming. The turned off pipes can be turned back on.

Here's a great site with links to the tools and custom bios's to flash video cards with. They have bios's and tools for both Nvidia and ATI cards. Just make sure you read a lot in their forums for a lot of tips before trying to flash a video card as you can mess it up easily if you don't know the proper steps and use the correct tools along with a compatible bios.


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by gsquared In reply to hey mate, please read the ...

Sorry about that. I did misread what you wrote.

A LAN version of WoW would certainly be interesting. Doubt it will ever happen, but it would definitely be cool.

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That's OK, mate, that's why I suggest the re-read of the post

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Misinterpretation

T thought you'd missed the bit about it being a quote. As to a LAN version of WoW, I may have to wait until someone else comes up with a variant, they may be more inclined to do so.

The trouble with games designers in the USA and Europe, is that forget about people who DON'T have the best Internet connections. Get outside the big cities in Australia and the majority of people are on broadband or satellite. Plenty of hardcore gamers though, most play through dial up to their ISP who have established games servers. WoW would be ideal for that, but no, they want to tie you into their cash register.

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Linux + WoW = Bad

by Inkling In reply to That's OK, mate, that's w ...

Blizzard is going to have to face the music on this one soon due to the number of people that are having issues with it. But apparently those using Cedega (I'm nearing complete ignorance with Linux as I haven't ever used it, but from what I gather Cedega is an emulator that must be used with WoW because it doesn't support Linux) are getting flagged as using 3rd party "hacks" and having their accounts permanently banned.

EDIT: Here's a link about it - http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=41042

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Account Bans

by gsquared In reply to Linux + WoW = Bad

Blizzard reversed that policy several months ago.

I've tried running Blizzard in CrossOver on Linux and got some weird results. Color channels inverted on character graphics but not on environment, no sound, movement issues and framerate issues, inability to save settings, to name the ones I remember.

Haven't tried Cedega or other versions of WINE than CrossOver.

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