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  • #2220440

    And the answer is …

    Locked

    by thump21 ·

    I hope this doesn’t sound chauvinistic, it’s not meant to be.

    There are many factors involved for why there are so few women in IT, the smart-girl as a negative, few role models, guidance to other careers, etc. but the actual root of it is much simpler. Men are generally thinkers, problem solvers, “thing”-people, while women are emotional creatures, nurturing, they are “people”-people. They tend to collect in database administration because such a thing requires management/care-taking, but it’s hard to think of coding a program as the act of “nurturing”. It’s much closer to a “solve the puzzle and go to the next level” exercise, like so many video games.

    So this starts at a young age. Girls will play video games to have “fun”. Boys will play video games to prove they can “conquer”.

    That’s my take anyway.

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    • #3036926

      whoa

      by shellbot ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      some sweeping generalisations there..

      from someone who couldn’t manage to post this in the thread it belongs in???

      • #3036870

        lol

        by jck ·

        In reply to whoa

        I think u need this, Shell…

        (((((((((((((((((((((((((( Hugs ))))))))))))))))))))))))))

        I know…it’s not in the right thread. :^0

        • #3036816

          haha!

          by shellbot ·

          In reply to lol

          Well, I’ll excuse it this time JCK..
          next time though..might not be as forgiving 😀

        • #3036650

          Awwww…

          by jck ·

          In reply to haha!

          Shell, you’re too sweet to me. 🙂

          I’ll try to behave. :^0

      • #3036857

        You go girl! nt

        by gsg ·

        In reply to whoa

        nt

      • #3036847

        :D

        by steffi28 ·

        In reply to whoa

        I like this 🙂

        You go girlie, give him hell :p

        • #3036815

          LOL

          by shellbot ·

          In reply to :D

          I was way too easy on him…
          I mean for g0ds sake…if ya can’t even manage to click a dang reply button in a thread..

          maybe I’m just cranky today…

          oh..actually working on yer CV!

      • #3036817

        I was incredibly restrained

        by shellbot ·

        In reply to whoa

        I just seen “nurtureing” and “database administration” and though WTF rock did this guy crawl out from under???

        Its amazing, in this day and age that people like this still exist.

        Yes, women CAN be more nurturing, but that has nothing to do with freaking IT. Ok, I’m incredibly protective about my databases, but its not because they are my children and I have to nurture them to adulthood or something..its because if they crash and burn its MY @ss on the line.. I have a job to do, I am paid to keep them up and running, thats it, end of the story.

        as my brother would say, what a “meegit”

        • #3036644

          Oh Shell..

          by jck ·

          In reply to I was incredibly restrained

          to paraphrase Val Kilmer’s line from Tombstone:

          “We stand corrected, Shell. You’re an oak.” 😉

          (if you haven’t seen that movie, you have to…)

    • #3036924

      Gods of us all,

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      I’ll bet it was easier on your knuckles before we paved everything. You must have some impressive calluses from dragging them on the asphalt.

    • #3036867

      I thought the Answer was

      by oldbaritone ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      Forty-two.

      The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.

      Thanks, Douglas Adams.

      😉

      • #3036813

        was my first thought

        by shellbot ·

        In reply to I thought the Answer was

        when i seen the title..
        then sadly, i read the content….
        got too annoyed to attempt to be funny…

        😀

    • #3036846

      Logically

      by santeewelding ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      There is a slice of one thing in the title, and a contradictory slice of another thing in your last line.

      What’s in the middle goes to make up a shilt sandwich.

    • #3036811

      One needs

      by boxfiddler ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      to act on hope, if hope is to be manifest.

    • #3036743

      Ok, how come only asian chicks are skilled at video games?

      by slayer_ ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      Best I can tell, the only female gamers are Asian, and they are usually awesome. If they are non-Asian, they are so-so or terrible players.

      How is that for a generalization? Both sexist and racist coupled into one.

      • #3036741

        Points

        by boxfiddler ·

        In reply to Ok, how come only asian chicks are skilled at video games?

        for crass.

        • #3036737

          Crass?

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Points

          What is Crass?

          Wiki:
          Crass were an English punk band, formed in 1977,[1][2] which promoted anarchism as a political ideology, way of living, and as a resistance movement.

        • #3036732

          Dictionaries are where I go

          by boxfiddler ·

          In reply to Crass?

          when I want to know what a word means…

          crass
             /kr?s/ Show Spelled[kras] Show IPA
          ?adjective,-er, -est.
          1.
          without refinement, delicacy, or sensitivity; gross; obtuse; stupid: crass commercialism; a crass misrepresentation of the facts.
          2.
          Archaic. thick; coarse.

          http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crass?&qsrc=

        • #3036730

          But will you answer my previous question?

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Dictionaries are where I go

          Why are Asian chicks so good at gaming?

        • #3036727

          Dunno.

          by boxfiddler ·

          In reply to But will you answer my previous question?

          Dunno why anyone is good at whatever their tendency is. Just how we are…

        • #3036726

          But its just them

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Dunno.

          Just Asians. I really dont understand. Is their brain wired different for quicker reflexes? Or is it because of the male mentality that exists in those places that makes it encouraging to do boy like things such as play video games.

        • #3036722

          well… according to all things reported on..

          by nexs ·

          In reply to Dunno.

          Apparently, video games promote violence, and perhaps the Asian world wants to turn their children into miniature armed forces?

        • #3036704

          Since you’re asking,

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to But will you answer my previous question?

          why are there no Asian men in western porn?

        • #3036648

          Because

          by jck ·

          In reply to Since you’re asking,

          they all saw a headshot of Ron jeremy and thought:

          “if that’s what the women look like in western porn, I’ll keep working in the factory.” :^0

        • #3036645

          maybe it’s…

          by jck ·

          In reply to But will you answer my previous question?

          … similar to the reason that they had in that ad in the movie “Crazy People” starring Dudley Moore why Sony is so good at making electronics:

          :^0

        • #3036549

          Think I’m gonna buy a Jag…

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to maybe it’s…

          :^0

        • #3036641

          The dictionary I want…

          by jck ·

          In reply to Dictionaries are where I go

          The Sleeping Dictionary…aka – Jessica Alba….

          hubba hubba ]:) :^0

      • #3036649

        ohhhhhhhhhh Sinister

        by jck ·

        In reply to Ok, how come only asian chicks are skilled at video games?

        Dude…

        I played this game called Shadowbane that was a Wolfpack Studios/Ubisoft game that came out in 2003-2004.

        Girls I knew playing that were from all sorts of backgrounds: Norwegian, Japanese, Polish, American, etc.

        One girl was this Jewish girl from New Jersey, owned her own gifts shop, and played when she got bored during the days it was slow. And when you chatted in Vent/TS with her, she sounded so sweet and demure.

        And if you met her in game, she would KICK YOUR BUTT. :^0

    • #3036615

      Men are

      by maecuff ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      thinkers and problem solvers?

      I’m not saying that they aren’t, but wtf makes you think that women aren’t problem solvers? That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I’ve heard this year.

      I am so tired of the whole ’emotional’ bullsh*t. First of all, all humans have emotions. Do men and women express them differently? Sure. Even better, I would say that all humans express them differently, it’s not gender specific. Men are just as emotional as women. Ever watch professional sports? Don’t you think men’s emotions run pretty high??

      One can be logical and emotional. They are not mutually exclusive.

      I’ve been writing code for 20 years. And I nuture my children. One doesn’t have to be sacrificed for the other. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant.

      • #2827898

        That’s a bit snippy!

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Men are

        Probably PMT…

        • #2827856

          Neil

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to That’s a bit snippy!

          I’m STILL crazy about you..

        • #2827850

          Likewise…

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Neil

          I knew that you’d understand that I was joking!

          😀

        • #2827849

          And

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Likewise…

          that I was out of shovel range.

          😡

        • #2827846

          LMAO

          by jellimonsta ·

          In reply to And

          Your initial comment made me laugh out loud (quite loudly in fact) here , Neil. :p

        • #2827839

          The shovel is retired

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to And

          I deal only in emotional pain now.

        • #2827830

          NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to The shovel is retired

          [slow motion grab to falling shovel; misses; shovel clatters to the concrete, raising dust]

        • #2827825

          Of course

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to The shovel is retired

          Less effort, more impact and, if done right, longer-lasting scars.

          ]:)

      • #2827886

        I understand

        by brenton keegan ·

        In reply to Men are

        I can understand how stuff like this is like “you can’t be as good at your job as a man could” which is just insulting.

        On the flip side, treating men as if they are emotionally numb and relationally ignorant is also frustrating.

        Men and women think differently though. If you try to tell me they don’t, I’ve got some years of dating experience that says otherwise.

    • #3036612

      Thank you for posting this!!!

      by notsochiguy ·

      In reply to And the answer is …

      I had an argument with my wife last night over not doing the dishes in a timely enough manner. I printed this off, handed it to her, and said “see, I could be worse”.

      She’s been exceptionally loving and grateful ever since!

      🙂

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