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Ask for a raise? (Salary)

By mike ·
I work for a company that says there is no money for raises this year. There were none last year.

The kicker is they throw parties at our West Coast Location all the time and we just acquired another company which increased my user base.

I have 7 servers with about 40 users across 3 time zones that I support. I know that's not a lot but I also have a Microsoft CRM application I am developing almost all on my own.

I just got back from vacation but I felt like I wasn't on vacation because they called me all the time and refuse to get someone to cover when I am away.

I know I should be happy just to have a job but the company seems to be doing very well despite claims of being cash poor.

I am below the low end of a Network Administrator salary for what I do. (57k) I look at the salary surveys and the low I see is 60k to 62k with a mid range of 71k.

I never work less that 60 hours a week and I don't get overtime or comp time. Should I demand a raise or just shutup and start looking?

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by santeewelding In reply to Ask for a raise? (Salary)

Is a long, long way from zero.

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With some reality though

by Oz_Media In reply to 57K

If you were hired to oxy acetylene braze 3" mild steel pipes to flat bases, then found that you were being used to tig alimunum structural welds for a 747, with no compensation for the added skill, how straight would your beads be?

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by Oz_Media In reply to Ask for a raise? (Salary)

Don't be mislead by salary surveys, they don't even begin to edge on the side of accurate.

Secondly, if you are on vacation, and don't have an arrangement to be on call in your contract, it is your choice to answer your phone for business calls. I live in a country where such calls are nillable, even on sick days or schduled days off, check your local emplyment laws.

Lastly, if you are doing 'extra curricular work' on your own time and don't feel you are being properly compensated for it, stop doing it.
It is natural for a mover to want to offer new products and ideas to a company in an effort to move forward, however if that is a one way street, keep your projects aside and offer them to someone else instead.

Sorry, but it seems your issues are VERY common and illustrate a hard worker with an eagerness to grow, stuck in a dead end environment.

I have been in similar situations where I literally shut down. It does not fir my noral work accumen but I found that when stuck in such a situation, working harder gets nowhere and just turning up and going through the daily motions is what I am being paid for, and nothing else. It is horrible mindset for someone as driven and capable as myself too, but sometimes we need a reality check. I have become jaded in my old age and simply don't provide what I am not paid for, unless I know it is to both the company's and my own benefit.

At that point, start quietly putting out the feelers for a more suitable, appreciative company.

You sound like someone beter off workign for a small business, outside of the corporate environment, where your skills and drive have a direct impact on company success.

Best of luck, but either accept the expected complacency and 'shut down' or use your drive to find a better home for your skill set, someone else is bound to see greater benefit in your effort.

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show your worth

by calbrit01 In reply to Ask for a raise? (Salary)

"Demand" a raise is probably not a good idea, no one likes to feel they are being held to Ransom. At your next pay review, you may want to do some homework beforehand - research the pay scales, print them out. Show how you contibute to the bottom line, most execs have no real idea of our value, but they do understand ROI. Show how you saved the company money, show how you earn your salary over and over again. If you are not getting any where with that, then you have a choice to make. If its so bad your job you have to get out, then start looking. If you can manage without too much mental and physical anguish then wait until the market is better. You may also want to look at the soft benefits - i.e vaction time, flexi time, 401k contributions etc. you may not be on the best salary, but you may be compensated well in other areas? Hope that was a little more helpful than " its a long way from zero," or whatever santeewelding's advice was.

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I agree with calbrit01

by DMambo In reply to show your worth

BUT, I wouldn't wait for the next review. I'd ask for a meeting with HR and the boss. Since "raises" are on hold, try to present it as a job upgrade. Move from net admin to senior net admin or some such thing. That would provide HR with some coverage when word leaks out (as it always does) that your salary was adjusted.

Most importantly, as in any negotiation, be prepared to accept "no" for an answer and have a plan for what to do if that happens.

Good luck, brother!

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