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    Attacking the Man and not the Problem


    by perspectives ·

    It is not a question as to whether George Bush is evil but that he may be listening to the wrong advisors. Yes, GB is wealthy in his own regard, some of his friends are wealthy, and they would benefit from some of the bills he would like to pass. However, does he have a composite plan to address the major problems in America? No, he does not. The bills he tries to pass have a theme that does not play well with the average American. We can?t figure it out, except to say that the first to reap wealth from his bills appears to be the wealthy. A certain ?trickle down? effect is possible, except most of American business would outsource the processing of those raw materials or what ever. See, GW has not identified the problem therefore he can?t formulate a plan. What?s he got advisors for? In some cases they hang on and kiss ass. This is not what GB needs and if I judge him correctly, he doesn?t appreciate it much less the suggestion that he has some ass kissers around, but what person in a great position doesn?t have them.

    George Bush needs the right advisors, a real brain trust, a think tank. He does have some good thinkers but he needs more and the right kind. If GB can identify the problems and say as much to America then he has some room till he proposes a composite solution.

    As it stands now he reminds me of the little Dutch boy and the leaky dikes. Running from leak to leak, sounding the alarm and plugging a leak; It will not fix the problem. We need to rebuild the dike not plug the holes.

    And as for George Bush being evil, he?s just in a evil situation and it?s rubbing off.

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    • #3542426

      Circle of peers

      by generalist ·

      In reply to Attacking the Man and not the Problem

      Bush’s circle of peers consists of wealthy decision makers who don’t have a good feel for how the rest of the voting population thinks.

      Come the next presidential election, there will be two major things that could make or break Bush’s chances for relection.

      First, if the stock market isn’t doing well, those people who link their retirement savings to the market will be leery of reelecting him.

      Second, and perhaps more important, if the job market hasn’t heated up, those people who are unemployed or underemployed may express their opinions by voting against Bush. This would be especially true in those areas where jobs have been outsourced to other countries.

      Of course, even if these two areas are pushing the reelection chances down, North Korea could come to the ‘rescue’ by launching a nuclear missle at the United States and provoking a military response.

      • #3542378

        I disagree

        by road-dog ·

        In reply to Circle of peers

        I feel that Bush has indeed tapped into the opinions and views of the common man. Folks have to quit dividing on economic classes.

        If the economy (macro level) is the biggest concern of the public behind security, then who is most qualified to advise on that?

        A blue collar worker? no
        A theoretical economist who went straight from student to teacher in academia? no

        A former Cxx of a major company? yes

        The stock market is not doing badly:^DJI&t=1y

        Notice the 2000+ plus advance. There is a big dip around the beginning of the liberation of Iraq. If left to continue on, this market will break 10000 before Halloween.

        Economists and CEOs are saying that emloyment is a “lagging indicator” or that it recovers AFTER the rest of the indicators. This is really simple to understand, as companies don’t hire until they know they will have revenues to make payroll.

        As things heat up, hiring will do so also.

        As for point 3, take a look at the stock chart in March of this year when the war started. If the market is a tool for re-election, would he have started the war? no.

        Please think things through. These are not the actions of a President pandering to anyone for votes. He’s making tough choices that are good for the country but bad for his career.

    • #3542415

      Too many questions. . .

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Attacking the Man and not the Problem

      …too little time to address them all.

      The things you say about George W. Bush are the things reported by a biased media and claims made by political opponents. Sure, listen to Dan Rather (CBS), Peter Jennings (ABC), and Tom Brokaw (NBC) on the evening news. But then look at the other side of the same issue. Look at these links, and consider these opinions as well as the opposition. Then make your own conclusions.

      Sure, read the Washington Post or New York Times. But then read the Washington Times and National Review.

      (There’s much more in the printed versions.)

      You should re-read your meaasge and look for real PROOF to the things you say. And ask yourself this. Did you say the same things about Bill Clinton?

      You may believe the things you wrote, but I (and many others) don’t believe any of it. So ask yourself this. Who is right and who is wrong? And why?

    • #3542403

      Another suggestion

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Attacking the Man and not the Problem

      Read the Democrat Party paltform and cruise their Web site. Then read the Republican Party paltform and cruise their Web site.

      Go to the re-elect George W. Bush Web site and read about the issues from their perspective. Then go to the Al Gore, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Al Sharpton, and the other Democrat presidential candidate Web sites and read the same things from their perspective.

      Who do you believe? And why?

      Why do 30 million people agree with what you said, while 30 million people could easily disagree with everything you said.

      Who’s right and who’s wrong? And why?

    • #2737907

      Opinions and opinions …

      by jardinier ·

      In reply to Attacking the Man and not the Problem

      What an utterly, dreary, unbearable world it would be if every man, woman and child held the same opinions about everything. While it irks me, it is the reality of politics in a two-party system that the opposition, not being in a position to actually do anything, passes the time by throwing mud at the Government and its members.

      This is not an exclusively American pastime, it is exactly the same in Australia, at all levels of Government. In our lower house, The House of Representatives, The Speaker frequently asks a member to withdraw a certain remark because it is “unparliamentary language.”

      And of course the media in general thrives on sensationalism because, in my opinion and experience, this is what a significant proportion of the public wants. A typical comment from a typical citizen is: “Did you hear about such-and-such? Isn’t it dreadful?”

      Anyhow here are a couple of websites at which
      you will find further criticism of the Bush administration:


      • #2737905

        Whoops !

        by jardinier ·

        In reply to Opinions and opinions …

        naturally you will realise that the blank space in the second URL was caused by the over zealous submit button.

    • #2737903

      A prayer for America …

      by jardinier ·

      In reply to Attacking the Man and not the Problem

      [I just picked this up from a friend, and thought some of you might relate to the sentiments expressed herein].

      When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is what they heard:
      “Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, ‘Woe to those who call evil good,’ but that is exactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values.
      We confess that we have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it Pluralism.
      We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.
      We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.
      We have killed our unborn and called it choice.
      We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.
      We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem.
      We have abused power and called it politics.
      We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition.
      We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression.
      We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.
      Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and set us free.

      Guide and bless these men and women who have been sent to direct us to the centre of Your will and to openly ask these things in the name of Your Son, the living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen!”

      The response was immediate. A number of legislators walked out during the prayer in protest. In 6 short weeks, Central Christian Church, where Rev. Wright is pastor, logged more than 5,000 phone calls with only 47 of those calls responding negatively.

      The church is now receiving international requests for copies of this prayer from India, Africa, and Korea.

      Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, “The Rest of the Story,” and received a larger response to this program than any other he has ever aired.

      “With the Lord’s help, may this prayer sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called “one nation under God.”

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