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Attempt to formalize global warming debate, step 1

By Absolutely ·
This thread is merely for announcing your position, and your intention to participate in a debate, about whether or not global warming is in significant part caused by humanity.

Please just answer "yes" if you believe humans do contribute significantly to global warming, and "no" if you believe humans don't contribute significantly to global warming. Sometime after the end of the business day Wednesday, 10 January 2007, this thread will be closed and your answers recorded.

Step 2 will involve two separate threads. In the "pro" thread, those who believe humans do contribute significantly to global warming will prepare our arguments, and in the "con" thread, those who believe humans don't contribute significantly to global warming will prepare theirs. Of course, I can't stop you from preparing offline, in private messages or the like, but the whole process will be less educational to those you wish to convince if you do that.

Once both sides agree that they are prepared to debate, Step 3 will commence. There will be one thread for debate, and another for flaming, because I know there will be flames but I'd also like to "keep it clean", or at least keep the vitriole separate from the factual debate.

edit: 2007, not 2006. Cr@p! Deepsand, neilb & company, I hope you're ready to check my maths.

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no

by Naw-yi In reply to Attempt to formalize glob ...

i was in highschool in the 80s and i can remember a time magazine that stated
"The Coming ICE AGE".

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Yeah well, we melted it. (NT)

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to no
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Yeah it was a great movie when they finally finished it.

by Deadly Ernest In reply to no

Actually, the scientists who study long term earthly environment, say we are in a very unusual warm period at the moment - tens of thousands of years old.

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tens of thousands of years old...

by Benevolence In reply to Yeah it was a great movie ...

... but the majority of these scientist also state that over the last 100 years, the rate of warming has accelerated well beyond even the most extreme historical periods known.

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Yet none of the verified scientific evidence supports this

by Deadly Ernest In reply to tens of thousands of year ...

statement. Some scientist say yes it's increasing, others say no it's not. The field is complex and most are specialists in limited area with limited understanding of the interactions.

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Please quote one such

by TonytheTiger In reply to tens of thousands of year ...

"scientist".

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Please do not...

by Absolutely In reply to tens of thousands of year ...

just yet.

I plan on taking 3 weeks or more to collect & interpret data, prepare arguments, etc. Please be patient. This will be grand.

Whether a success or a failure, this will be grand!

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Yes

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Attempt to formalize glob ...
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No, not a significant contributor over all

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Attempt to formalize glob ...

Take into account all aspects of human activity not just the few you don't like, ditto with the natural aspects. Don't forget the earth has been naturally warming up for hundreds of thousands of years.

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I don't know.

by TonytheTiger In reply to Attempt to formalize glob ...

I don't believe there's enough evidence to say one way or the other.

[added: but I'm leaning toward the 'no' side]

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