Backup solutions - Part III

By jdclyde ·
Ok everyone, here we go.

I have learned a lot in my last two Backup questions, so here we can try to pull it all together.
Looking for ideas for Backups - 06/15/2009
Can you image for backups? - 06/29/2009


I admit to knowing the basics they teach you in the Admin classes, but need to update to the latest technology.

I have three servers, only one saves data.

Mentioned in the last question was a quote I got for $300/month for a managed solution. After explaining that was not in the realm of my reality, they came back with one for $150, but I don't think it does the server visualization the first one did.

This got me thinking, should I go with a NAS or one of the solutions that has removable hard drives that look like cartridges?

What is the benefit of one over the other?

What are good brands to go with, and which are good to avoid?

Took a quick look at different NAS solutions, and know right off the bat that I don't want anything to do with Dlink or Netgear. Not going to risk my reputation by saving a few bucks up front.

Does a NAS give me bare-metal recovery for multiple servers?

If I have a NAS, how do you get an off-site copy?

Or should I go with an updated Tape backup? Currently have a DAT72, and it just does NOT have the capacity required.

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A NAS soltuion that might work?

by jdclyde In reply to Backup solutions - Part I ...

Of course I would run it with mirror RAID.

As my entire network isn't HALF a TB, the size is not an issue.

Anyone use one of these before?

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a few ?s

by ssampier In reply to Backup solutions - Part I ...

Your questions are pretty specific to your enterprise. I will admit I didn't read all the responses to your first two queries.

How much backup space are we talking about? What is your backup window?

I like disk-to-disk backup. I am not a fan of tape, it's slow and noisy. If you must archive for compliance, then D2D your new stuff and archive everything else after a set date.

NAS is okay technology. They are relatively fast. Some are closed boxes so it's hard to reinstall the OS, though. You could probably achieve bare metal install with virtualization and/or the right software (Ghost). The NAS would just a storage box for the actual data (usually compressed images).

I don't know your budget but virtualization and Ghost are not cheap. Of course your time is worth money, too.

I like the simplicity of free open source rsync really. The advantage of rsync is does a direct copy of your files. Once the initial copy is done, it only copies the Delta. This means if Susie updates her spreadsheet and it changed only 1 MB, only 1 MB is transferred over.

Rsync can run on windows, but you need to know CLI commands.

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I am not interested in speed

by jdclyde In reply to a few ?s

The only things I care about are Disaster recovery and Cost. Making sure I have a safe/secure backup of the data in case of a server failure and that I could recover the server bare metal.

I don't (to this point) deal with restoring deleted files for users, but maybe someday, and speed will still not be an issue.

The Disk to Disk runs into the issue of how do you take a copy off-site?

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by shasca In reply to I am not interested in sp ...

Are you familiar with shadow copy? It is a part of XP, Vista, and Server 2003. You just have to enable it. This can restore alot with paying for anything more than your OS purchase.**4(WS.10).aspx

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No, I am not

by jdclyde In reply to hmmm

but I have some reading material for now....

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using tinyurl

by jdclyde In reply to hmmm

because of broken or long links....

be-bopping between the different links, to get a feel for what is what... ya know?

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If you setup shadow copy correctly

by The Scummy One In reply to I am not interested in sp ...

they can recover their own deleted files

Oops, I should have read Shasca's post first

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by shasca In reply to If you setup shadow copy ...

Is that a large footprint on my forehead?

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Sorry -- I was commenting on JD's post before I read yours.

by The Scummy One In reply to hhhmmm

then I edited it. No harm -- no footprint, just me bein a tard momentarily (I caught it in the next link I clicked).

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so then

by shasca In reply to Sorry -- I was commenting ...

Is this yet another example of you sucking info out of my brain for your own evil purposes.

Why yes, yes it is

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