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By diskaus ·
I am running Windows 98SE , Norton Antivirus V 5.0, Pentium 200 Mhz processor, Atrend Socket 7 Motherboard , 64 Mb Ram,Seagate 4Gb Main HDD, Maxtor 3Gb Storage HDD, my problem is i have had to low levelformat and zero fill the Main dribve twice in the last week due to bad sectors , my system seems to develop them over night , there is no particular set thing to make the system hang , i can be working away on or off the internet and this happens , my keyboard does not respond , my mouse does notrespond and the HDD light on the box is not on , the only way i can get out of this situation is to manually shut down and restart , but when I do that it not only wants to run scan disk ( like it should ) but it also wants to do a surface scan also, then when it has done that it runs "scanreg" (which sugests to me that it keeps droping system files).Once back up and running i find i have to reinstall al non windows programs (including my internal modem)i recently had the seagate installed because i was told that the Maxtor had bad sectors on it which could not be removed and it turned out that the Cache ram was conflicting with my EDO ram whic was causing the system to hang during instalation of windows,
1.Is it possible for the two HDD to be conflicting ?
2. Is the bad sectors causing the system to hang?
3. Is it the system hanging and being unable to shut it down properly causing the bad sectors?
4. Can you format a drive too many times ?
5. something totally different ?
this is drivng me nuts , any information to the soultion would be greatly appreciated .

Thanks in advance ,
Steve

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by True_Texan In reply to Bad Sectors

You've got a really unique problem, but I don't think your hard drive is the problem. It sounds like something else is causing the problem, and the hard drive is catching the result. I would guess a weak component combined with heat buildup. You might try running without the case cover to see if heat is initially causing the problem.

If you want to check the drives, put them on different IDE channels. Also, put your windows swap file on your data drive. This will take some of the load off of your system drive.

Generally, encountering a bad sector will not cause the system to hang. Rather, you will receive an O/I error.

Abnormally shutting down should not cause truely "bad" sectors (those which can not be used in the future). It will sometimes cause corrupt sectors.

I've never heard of formatting a drive too many times. All formatting does is electronically set the drive up. It's really no different storing and retrieving files.

The only other thing that I can think of is that system area of the drive may be failing (if your errors are consistantly in the low sectors of the drive) or you may have electronic components (possibly in the drive) that are on the verge of permanent failure.

I hope this helps -and good luck!

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by diskaus In reply to Bad Sectors

as said below in other responses , it is looking like the maotherboard is failing .

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by md_hashim In reply to Bad Sectors

This certainly does not seem to be a bad sector problem. It appears to be a memory management/conflict problem at system level. A utility like RAM Boost could help here. It can be downloaded from http://www.wolff-software.de/ramboost_en.html

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by diskaus In reply to Bad Sectors

It looks like it might be the Mother board.

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by fenaikh In reply to Bad Sectors

Hi
Q1.Is it possible for the two HDD to be conflicting ?
A1- if you set the jumbers right NO.
2Q. Is the bad sectors causing the system to hang?
A2- couldbe if it is on the swap file area.
3Q. Is it the system hanging and being unable to shutit down properly causing the bad sectors?
A3 could be.
Q4. Can you format a drive too many times ?
A4- yes.. well since it is a usage of the HD then it take out of the life of the HD.

5Q. something totally different ?
this is drivng me nuts , any information to the soultion would be greatly appreciated .
A5- It could be that your hard disk is reaching it is MTBF.


(my problem is i have had to low levelformat and zero fill the Main dribve twice in the last week due to bad sectors )

*** The new HD realy do not low level formated but zero fill since the controller is built in the new hard disks.you may have Interleaving problem.

Any format while the hard disk HOT or COLD could do what you are getting.


to get more info in this pls visit :

1- Hard Disk Drives
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/index.htm

2-Low-Level Format, Zero-Fill and Diagnostic Utilities
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/formatUtilities-c.html

3- Low-Level Formatting
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/formatLow-c.html

4- Interleaving

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/tracks_Interleaving.htm

good luck

Mohamed

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by diskaus In reply to Bad Sectors

Thankyou for the links , they have been very interesting and informing, but it turned out to be the m/b to be at fault

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