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Bill Gates goes into semi-retirement?

By Peter Spande ·
Ray Ozzie is tapped to take over as Microsoft's Chief Software Architect. Can Microsoft rewire after so many years of so much success?

Does this signal a "kinder, gentler" future Microsoft?

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Not hardly

by BrokenEagle In reply to Bill Gates goes into semi ...

I always thought Steve Balmer made Bill Gates look like a nice guy.

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Not Enough

by Tin Weasle In reply to Not hardly

I agree, as long as Ballmer is there, it will be the same company, concentrating more on litigation and asset building than on engineering world class software that is affordable, usuable, and isn't bogged down with bloat.

I always thought that Ballmer missed his calling. He really should have been a used car salesman.

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It doesn't matter...

by duane.wills In reply to Bill Gates goes into semi ...

M$ is done. The new slightly-proprietary Linuxes and Mac OS/X **** away Windows Vista... when it comes out... on much cheaper computers. Windows XP will be the end of Microsoft, at least on computers. People are tired of spyware and crashes, and are NOT going to pay a fortune to buy a NEW Windows and an EXPENSIVE computer to run it when they can run Windows XP, Mac OS/X, or Novell Enterprise Linux on the computer they already have (Well, not Mac, but lower and lower prices on new comps).

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It does matter

by jdh In reply to It doesn't matter...

I think if anything Mac OS X/Apple have shown that people -are- willing to pay a premium for hardware in order to get an operating system. Do I think Vista will have the same effect? No. But I dont think Apple was a good choice for that argument.

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by duane.wills In reply to It does matter

Not a premium for HARDWARE, premium for an EXPERIENCE (li'l dig on XP). They pay for everything to JUST WORK. If Vista is anything like previous Microsoft, a lot will, but not everything, and it'll get worse over time across the board.

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Maybe - Maybe Not

by jevans4949 In reply to It doesn't matter...

Whether Microsoft will now lose the plot even more definitively remains to be seen.

Sadly, people said the same thing as duane about Windows 3.1, 95, 98, ME, XP. Yet we all went out there and bought them, one after the other.

In case you hadn't noticed, even Apple are now selling Windows-compatible machines.

I will believe MS is done when my local retail store starts selling systems with Linux pre-loaded.

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If I may....

by mypl8s4u2 In reply to Maybe - Maybe Not

As much as I like to see M$ take a dump for it?s software and EULA, and WGA, I have to give credit where credit is due. You can?t compare Apple, OSX or any other OS to Microsoft.

When you build a Linux box, you know what you are doing and of course the components you buy are going to be compatible, because you are building the system. So of course everything will work. And if problems exist, you have quite a host of places to gather information, and most of the people who design Linux boxes have the smarts to figure out what to do should something go wrong. Linux is not for the average person, not by a long shot.

When you go buy a MAC or Apple, you are buying a standard. The Apple you buy here is the same as the one across the street or across the state. And any part you buy for it will be certified to work with MAC and their products. You don?t have the luxury of building the unit yourself. Every component is geared and guaranteed to work with other MAC units. And buying software, most of it is certified before the logo goes on. Hardly do you see software geared to the MAC that isn?t approved. Not counting what you download off the net.

PC?s are a totally different breed and to design an OS capable of running on just about any platform requires a tremendous amount skill. And to complicate matters, not all components are certified to work together. When you buy other than name brand, you are taking a chance and an unfair shot at the OS maker if it doesn?t work right. Not all video cards will run on all boards and some just don?t work at all.

What I think should be done is M$ should create a standard, and not deviate from it.

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You may, but...

by duane.wills In reply to If I may....

I've put Linux on a lot of designed for Windows (Generally ME for a modern distro. Good enough PC for it. Good enough laugh = Windows ME.)

Have you tried Mandriva Linux '06 or Fedora Core 5? What's wrong for the average user?

"What I think should be done is M$ should create a standard, and not deviate from it." That's the problem. Microsoft is a vender, a nasty one at that. It needs to FOLLOW already agreed upon standards. Look at IE6. It went DIRECTLY against standards (not that Netscape didn't) and should be considered anti-trust.

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There is Linux preloaded...

by duane.wills In reply to Maybe - Maybe Not

Yes, but less and less people buy, especially when there is nothing from the user standpoint they don't already have. Vista is looking more and more like a buffed up copy of XP SP2... with more anti-piracy. XP was a step up from 2000. 2000 was a leap from ME and 98. Vista isn't from XP, especially with Aero turned off. Apple with Windows doesn't mean anything. Like anyone would actually single-boot Windows on a Mac. It's a ploy to get business users. And, in a lot of S. America, Europe, and Asia, Linux is on the shelf. I have a friend who went to Brasil, and next to every Windows box there is a (cheaper) Linux box.

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Actually now that you have mentioned this

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to There is Linux preloaded. ...

What do you think MS will do with their current Products that need activation when their life cycle ends?

Do you think MS will continue to provide activation keys for these products?


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