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May 7, 2008 at 4:06 pm #2146501
Blue Screen Of DEATH
Lockedby porstech · about 14 years ago
Ok. I’m new to this whole computer thing and am very caucious when it comes to doing anything to possibly harm or cause problems. I am extremely thurough and study everything before I make any kind of programming change. Nevertheless, I’ve offically locked myself out of my desktop. Allow me to explain:
Error message I receive on startup:
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
If this is…bla bla bla, follow these steps.
Check for viruses on your computer. Remove any newly installed hard drives or hard drive controlers. Check your hard drive to make sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run CHKDSK /F to check for hard drive corruption, and then restart your computer.
Technicial information:
*** STOP: 0x0000007b (0xf96dd528, 0xc0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)Oddly, my computer did not shut down, I went to restart it in safe mode to remove Smitfraud–a trogan that creates a driver in the \windows\system32\ and runs all the time in the background, pulling up webpages and clogging up CPU. (its really fun):)
Anyway, I figured I’d use this chance while I still have some of my hair left and before I loaded my 357 to put a bullet in this wounded horse to see what you guys thought about that…
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May 7, 2008 at 4:17 pm #2461679
Fun huh?
by torturednacho · about 14 years ago
In reply to Blue Screen Of DEATH
First off, Trying to avoid disaster and misconfiguration is a prelude to that 357 your talking about. Its all about trial and error. Make sure your backups are up to date and you are good to go.
On the other Hand.Maybe when I was Programming DOS Eggdrops. I thought viruses and attacks were fun, But its actually just stupid.
I Prefer “Gray Hacker” , ..Figure out the holes and then work with the companies to fix the holes.Viruses are .. Well in a tech word “Lame sauce”
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May 7, 2008 at 4:21 pm #2461677
Yes, a .357 is the correct solution
by nepenthe0 · about 14 years ago
In reply to Blue Screen Of DEATH
I would reformat the HD and do a [i]clean[/i] reinstallation of the operating system. Hopefully you have a data backup.
A number of TR participants have criticized me for this advice, but desperate situations require desperate solutions. I make periodic drive image backups with Norton Ghost, just on the contingency that a scenario such as you describe might confront me.
Norton Ghost rewrites the HD at 1-2GB/min. I’m up and running under 20 minutes when disasters strike. And they do.
Rick/Portland, OR
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May 7, 2008 at 4:24 pm #2461675
Can you tell us what the text in the message says…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Blue Screen Of DEATH
please?
For example: KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR
or
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREAThat information would help a lot. Also, what OS are you running? Windows? 2K, XP, Vista? These things make a difference.
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May 7, 2008 at 4:46 pm #2461667
I’ll run a test again to see…
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to Can you tell us what the text in the message says…
this shouldn’t take long.
In the meantime, I tried to use a WindowsXP–cause that’s what I have on both my lappy and desk–and tried to use it with no luck. I did make it off of my lappy and it does work like it should, but nothing seems to be working for me. Even tried using the reinstall disc from my lappy, cause I dont have one from my desk, and to no suprise, no progress.
Just got done with that scann. “All tests passed”
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May 7, 2008 at 4:51 pm #2461665
I’m asking about the text that appears on the BSOD…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to I’ll run a test again to see…
underneath the Stop code you posted.
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May 7, 2008 at 4:59 pm #2461659
Sorry Bro, Bit of miscommunication here.
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to I’m asking about the text that appears on the BSOD…
After the stop code there is nothing at all…A big blue square if that helps lol
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May 7, 2008 at 5:09 pm #2461652
miscommunication…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Sorry Bro, Bit of miscommunication here.
no biggie. On my part as well. Below is some pretty good info on BSOD’s in general. The text I was looking for isn’t underneath the Stop code! (My bad.) It’s closer to the top of the screen.
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May 7, 2008 at 5:17 pm #2461647
Getting good at this but..
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to miscommunication…
still learing all the “computer shop talk”. I’m running a dell inspiron 8200 that I build as my gunipig (however the hell you spell that) and Have had absolutely no problems out of it…all day…lol.
In current news, i typed it just as it appears, save the second paragraph which always sais the same thing whenever the blue screen comes up:
If this is the first time you’ve seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps.
Is there a way to “hack” into windows even if it isn’t running properly? Thought maby if I could get in, I could f**k it up worse.
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May 7, 2008 at 5:22 pm #2461645
Am looking for the text with the underscores (_)…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Getting good at this but..
between the words.
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May 7, 2008 at 5:26 pm #2461642
No underscore…
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to Getting good at this but..
Just (,). Looking at the screen right now.
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May 7, 2008 at 4:32 pm #2461672
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May 7, 2008 at 4:39 pm #2461670
Dang! I was looking for that…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Some Info
forgot to leave off the parameters. 🙁 Oh well, at least no thumbs are at stake!
etu
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May 7, 2008 at 4:50 pm #2461666
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May 7, 2008 at 4:57 pm #2461661
From what I read of it
by the scummy one · about 14 years ago
In reply to Microsoft support sux
it may be a HDD controller, or HDD issue would be the most suspect.
If I interpreted another response correctly, you tried booting to an XP disc and it failed? Maybe your HDD is going out.Best suggestion is to have the drive checked out, or boot to an AV floppy/CD and scan to remove any problems before Win loads.
If it checks out fine, then I would try safe mode — command prompt and try a system restore.
If that does not work, re-installation may be needed/best. But as suggested, backup your data before doing anything else if you do not have a current backup. If your drive is failing, then getting the data may be at a critical state. -
May 7, 2008 at 5:03 pm #2461656
Tried booting from a…
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to From what I read of it
disk, both start up and reformat, although they were both from my lappy, but both systems are XP. HDD seems to be running like it should but just before it gets to the windows logo is when it goes into “death mode”, if that’s of any help.
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May 7, 2008 at 5:15 pm #2461648
If your hard drive continues to spin…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Tried booting from a…
and there are no strange noises coming from it, I wouldn’t think it is the hard drive or the controller (but lack of noise is not necessarily an indicator). It strikes me that your Master Boot Record could be hosed. If you can’t repair it using your lappie system disk – which is likely quite specific to your lappie – you need a stand alone copy of XP to do so.
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May 8, 2008 at 9:02 am #2460626
Try this
by the scummy one · about 14 years ago
In reply to Tried booting from a…
get into the BIOS and see if there is a HDD error checking tool there. It is not OS specific and the tool is not located on the HDD.
If there is a HDD or controller problem, the test will show at least 1 failure. This should be able to rule out a HW issue with the drive in question.Also, did you boot to an AV cd/floppy to scan before Win loads? what were the results?
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May 7, 2008 at 5:00 pm #2461657
Oh, and what the heck do the parameters indicate…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Some Info
and how can those codes be found, if they can?
Thanks Scummy One!
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May 7, 2008 at 5:08 pm #2461655
Parameters?
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to Oh, and what the heck do the parameters indicate…
Dude, I can’t even get into safe mode. DOS loads, Windows nothing. Goes Blue right when it should be loading the Windows logo
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May 7, 2008 at 5:11 pm #2461651
The parameters are the numbers in the parentheses…
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Parameters?
in the code you provided in your original post.
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May 7, 2008 at 5:08 pm #2461653
The parameters are usually
by the scummy one · about 14 years ago
In reply to Oh, and what the heck do the parameters indicate…
memory address where the stop error occurred. This can often be translated into a specific device if you can find the memory allocated to a device. However it can be problematic if it is in an address assigned to a program when launched or when sitting in virtual memory (Swap file).
If it is HW related, looking over the address and comparing it to installed HW may find the fault. In that case, re-installing the driver or updating it (sometimes downgrading it) can bring positive effects.
However from my interpretation, a boot disk failed as well, which would suggest an actual HW failure or impending failure.
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May 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm #2461644
Learn something new everyday…
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to The parameters are usually
How would I beable to find the device or driver assigned to that parameter whithout being able to get into at least safe mode?
I’m also asking if there is a way to hack it without it wirking properly so i can have a chance to fix it. I don’t believe it is a hardware problem or it would show when I tested the system for faults…wouldn’t it?
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May 7, 2008 at 4:57 pm #2461662
Use Your Heads…
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to Blue Screen Of DEATH
Keep in mind, to every problem there is a solution. I know there is a way out of this without the dreaded “reformatting” and all that. The HDD is still functioning. It’s
Windows that I’m having a problem with.Im just Hoping there’s a less drastic solution
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May 7, 2008 at 5:33 pm #2461640
Have you made any recent hardware changes?
by boxfiddler · about 14 years ago
In reply to Blue Screen Of DEATH
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May 7, 2008 at 5:43 pm #2461637
No recient changes…
by porstech · about 14 years ago
In reply to Have you made any recent hardware changes?
Completely stock. Got infested with adware and removed all accept smitfraud. This happened on reboot, completely unexpected. Scaned for virsused and other stuff right before restart and it was clean. Computer is a couple years old, but barely used, i.e. only on occasion. Probably needs cleaned out but it was running good.
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May 8, 2008 at 12:05 pm #2460530
Is it fixed?
by nepenthe0 · about 14 years ago
In reply to Blue Screen Of DEATH
If so, please tell us how you did it.
Rick/Portland, OR
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