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    Buyouts by major manufacturers, what are you doing?

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    by the weekly geek ·

    LG Electronics bought SMC (switches)
    Dell bought SonicWall
    Cisco bought Meraki
    Intel is going to quit making motherboards
    I am sure there are many others.

    What are you doing? Are you looking for alternatives?
    Are you still buying those devices?

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    • #2903287

      I didn’t even know Intel made motherboards

      by slayer_ ·

      In reply to Buyouts by major manufacturers, what are you doing?

      So no loss there

    • #2903277

      Was there a point to this post?

      by Wizard57M-TR ·

      In reply to Buyouts by major manufacturers, what are you doing?

      Buyouts, mergers, sell-offs, etc occur all the time. Did you have something in mind when you posted this?
      Wizard57M
      TR Moderator

      • #2903273

        Just an FYI

        by aidemzo_adanac ·

        In reply to Was there a point to this post?

        When you post on TR, your avatar and alias are already shown. If you need further help, there’s always FAQ’s.

        • #2903267

          Trolling moderators now?

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Just an FYI

          I give it 3/10, you can do better troll posts.

        • #2903224

          Not trolling

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to Trolling moderators now?

          Offering a little insight. I don’t troll, I don’t bite my tongue either though.
          If I say something terribly offensive, it’s because I meant to say something terribly offensive strictly for the sake of saying something terribly offensive to the person whom earned it. I don’t say terribly offensive things just to get responses, in fact I couldn’t care less what the replies are, I read, I form and opinion, I offer it, gratis.

        • #2903222

          Sorry oz but that was clearly a troll post

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Not trolling

          Telling the 2001 member he is posting wrong.

          And troll posts don’t have to be mean. (not anymore anyways)

          Here is an example of trolling.
          http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-403163-3757103

        • #2903221

          +1

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Sorry oz but that was clearly a troll post

          +1

        • #2903213

          wiz is a big boy.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to Sorry oz but that was clearly a troll post

          If he’s offended, he’ll speak up.

          I’m not sure what Ozzie’s point was, but it looked harmless to me.

        • #2903200

          Are you calling wiz fat?

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to wiz is a big boy.

          Yes I am still trolling :p

        • #2903198

          Ozzie?

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to wiz is a big boy.

          You too? I’ve had others calling me Oz and stuff too. I don’t mind, you can call me pr*ck face for all I care, but I just don’t know where all this Oz stuff stems from. Maybe it’s that guy’s avatar I bought on Craigslist a few months ago.

        • #2903197

          He could be right

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to wiz is a big boy.

          Depending on who “Wiz” is.

        • #2903190

          That’s your story, a_a; you stick with it.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to wiz is a big boy.

          😀

        • #2903186

          Sure sure

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to wiz is a big boy.

          Maybe your name should have been less obvious? lol

        • #2903140

          Just to be clear Slayer

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to wiz is a big boy.

          Oz was never one person.

        • #2903199

          Not that it was wrong

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to Sorry oz but that was clearly a troll post

          I don’t like it when people feel a need to offer up their qualifications or role in order to justify their comments.
          In a case where credibility is important, such as offering technical support, it’s okay to say, “I’ve worked with that OS for many years, as a result I’ve learned that….”

          To say “Wizard57M
          TR Moderator”

          As a signature to a post where you know your avatar displays the same info is just borderline narcissistic.

          I don’t sign off all my emails with “Strategic Business Alliance Manager” or “Director of Business Management”, in fact I don’t even use initials in my signature to tout qualifications.
          I often sign off with first name, I build close relationships, and only use both names when formal.

        • #2903192

          There is a reason why I included my “signature”,

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to Not that it was wrong

          as at the time I was also answering questions in Q&A, and as most of us that have been around a while know, no avatars or designations will show up in Q&A posts. If my adding that little bit of extra offended you, tough luck. By the way, I don’t include my professional degrees, licenses or other initials behind my name, but if you want, I could bore you with them.
          Wiz

        • #2903168

          Doesn’t offend me

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to Not that it was wrong

          Makes me laugh that’s all

        • #2903149

          Well good then!

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to Not that it was wrong

          We all need more laughter in our lives! So see, it’s all good!
          😉

      • #2903212

        Moderator, please read the question before asking if it was a question

        by the weekly geek ·

        In reply to Was there a point to this post?

        Yes, What was my question? I believe it should have been clear. With the buyouts ( and yes, I know they occur I was probably in IT before you were born), What are you (the Tech Republic Community) doing? Simple straight forward question.
        For those who did not get past … I won’t go there.
        To make it simple for some people.
        Will you still but the specified in the question above products?
        Will you search for new providers/manufacturers?

        • #2903211

          You’re in the ‘Water Cooler’ forum.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to Moderator, please read the question before asking if it was a question

          Things are a lot looser here than over in the primary ‘Discussions’ forum. Mud is flung, attitudes are copped, and off-topic conversations are not only normal but expected.

          With that said, I’ll tackle your question. If I can still buy the same product, I’ll continue to buy it. I don’t care what the company name is -IF- the product and price are the same. If it’s not available, then I guess I don’t have any choice about looking for someone else. I handle non-tech purchases the same way.

          I think you’re catching flack because everyone is wondering why you are asking a question with such an obvious answer. Changes in corporate ownership ownership alone don’t play into our purchasing decisions.

        • #2903195

          If you’re lucky

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to You’re in the ‘Water Cooler’ forum.

          You’ll get thrashed with a broken beer bottle. LUXURY!

          I don’t really care who buys who either. The only time I try to avoid it is when a large US company comes to Canada and starts buying out locals. Just as I would expect any American to do the same in the USA.

          China makes everything you and I own, if they came to the USA and bought WalMart, not that they don’t technically own it anyway, don’t you think Americans would be picketing WalMart stores?

          Walmart came up here and started buying out our key Canadian retailers too. While the cities are full of imported people that couldn’t care less about quality or origin, smaller places they’ve started up have failed as people just wont shop there.

          I’d spend the extra few bucks to buy from a local merchant, even when the same product, just to support the local merchant. If people did that everywhere, our economies would be a little quicker to recover.

        • #2903178

          Beer bottle?

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to If you’re lucky

          I’ll have you know I have never been thrashed with anything less than a distilled spirits bottle. Okay, once with a bottle from Boone’s Farm, but that was back in my college days and we all know how kids experiment, right?

          I believe Wal-mart is still owned entirely by the Walton family.

          I usually favor local restaurants that can give me something the chains don’t offer. I shop for manufactured goods solely on price; it’s the same gizmo from the big box as the Mom and Pop.

        • #2903170

          True

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to Beer bottle?

          Firstly, script: http://www.phespirit.info/montypython/four_yorkshiremen.htm
          Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

          It’s about 4 guys who grew up in poverty stricken Yorkshire. They are now sitting around sipping champagne and moaning about how hard they had it when they grew up. Their stories get worse and worse as they each try to outdo each other with who had it tougher…while all sitting around sipping champagne.

          WalMart is still owned by the Walton family, an American family. It is also the third largest publicly traded company in the world. Not exactly the family owned business Sam Walton started and not wanted nor a benefit to other nations.

          I agree with local restaurants, food has taste to it. In chains, the food is what I call homogenized or industrial. It has little to no flavour at all so that it appeals to the masses, is churned out by the tonne and thrown on your table by some kid who couldn’t care less about anything but if he/she will be able to cash out in time to go out with friends who are waiting in the parking lot.

        • #2903160

          I’ve had good meals and service in chains.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to True

          Indeed, I’ve had great meals and service.

          What I find gets homogenized isn’t the food as much as the menus. They all offer the same appetizers and entrees. Their ‘daily special’ is just whatever regularly offered dish that corporate said to push that week. Don’t think of seeing or hearing about a true ‘not-on-the-menu’ special dish the chef concocted from whatever goodies he found in season or whatever mood struck her. You won’t find that offered at any large regional or national chain, although I do know of a couple of small chains in the US southeast that do it (Fatz and Carolina Ale House). Otherwise you’ve got to stick to a local joint to get anything that hasn’t been taste-tested by a panel and optimized to use ingredients already in the inventory system.

        • #2903143

          A better explanation perhaps

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to True

          I find that food in chains has little spice, very little flavour a chef hasn’t really created it, no exotic flavours or anything that jumps out as unique, it is just ‘vanilla’ versions of generic food.

          Applebees (blech!! the worst!), Denny’s (not much better) etc. all have to be that way in order to appeal to the masses. There’s always someone that complains that salted peanuts are too salty, so they mellow out their foods to appeal to all, including the blandest taste buds.

          When I’m in the US I find the big push is to see who serves the MOST food or the biggest portions in one meal, it’s a quest to stuff yourself, not enjoy a meal.

          Now, to be fair, there are a lot of great restaurants in the US, where portions are reasonable, food is well seasoned and prepared and served by skilled staff that know how to cater to clients there for a dining experience. It’s just the family restaurants everywhere that I can’t stand, people actually think it’s dining out compared to MacDonalds, but not really, just a nicer seat (sometimes) and less paper in the uniforms.

    • #2903274

      Thyose companies have been bought and sold like a cheap whore for years

      by aidemzo_adanac ·

      In reply to Buyouts by major manufacturers, what are you doing?

      ALL IT, and most other companies, are out to be bought or sold. MOST start up with a buyout in mind for the future, sell licencing and make money is how its done.

      People that engineer such products rarely seek to make money selling the produce itself, Electronics are VERY low margin commodity products, there’s no money in making and selling them. There’s money in holding patents and selling licences to other providers to expand their portfolio with though..

      Is this a new experience for you with respect to business mergers/acquisitions?

      • #2903156

        Bought and sold companues

        by the weekly geek ·

        In reply to Thyose companies have been bought and sold like a cheap whore for years

        Aidemzo,
        No this is not new for me, I have been in IT since 1984. What I was looking for is if people care or dont care about who they do business with.
        Intel has treated us great (My 2 companies – and again we are VAR / OEM’s). It sucks to lose them. ASUS, Gigabyte and ALL others treat us like end users when it comes to warranty diagnostics (they want us to do their dance) and then shipping / cross-shipping. I wondered if anyone else had input.
        Cisco SUCKS THE BIG ONE! No other way to put it, they treated us like crap since 2000, I will spend my (and my customer’s) money on other competitive products.
        I supported Dell back in the late 80’s and 90’s, even met Mike at Johnson Space Center around 1990 or 1991. Same with Peter Norton. Since then (Since 2000) they (Dell and Symantec) treat their professional people (again VAR and OEM’s) like crap so I dont play with either of them.
        I guess it is about integrity, and I was checking to see if anyone here in the TR forums had input, they dont have to agree or disagree with me, I just wanted to see if anyone cared.
        So far I am guessing, “no” and that is ok.

        • #2903155

          His name is Oz

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Bought and sold companues

          🙂

        • #2903147

          So, you DID have a motive in mind when you asked the question…

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to Bought and sold companues

          that’s OK, that’s why I asked for a bit of clarification. These things happen, and as time has marched on our choices have even gotten smaller. However, we do what we have to do.
          1984 eh? Hmmmm…by that time I had already been tinkering for 5 years…I’m much older than I look! 😉

        • #2903141

          I’m much older than I look!

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to So, you DID have a motive in mind when you asked the question…

          It must be the shade of blue in your avatar that makes you look younger.

        • #2903134

          Blue is my favorite color,

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to I’m much older than I look!

          always has been. Though I do like some shades of red as well. Not sure if it makes me look younger or not, but I try not to become “old”, and find that if I challenge myself with new things, it keeps my brain from growing too many cobwebs!

        • #2903107

          Age is only a number

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to Blue is my favorite color,

          Unfortunately it climbs and climbs without ever rolling over to 0 again but that’s life and the short experience we have to enjoy it. Whether you are 8 or 80, besides physical limitations, age has no bearing.

        • #2903142

          That makes more sense then

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to Bought and sold companues

          A lot more actually. Your OP comes across as if you found a merger/acquisition to be new and you were put off by it.

          I agree, when companies get TOO big, everyone suffers including employees.

          My name isn’t actually Oz either, people just equate me to being the same guy due to my reversed alias and an old avatar. I know Oz, I’ve even posted as Oz (a few of us shared the account), but i’m not the same Oz most around here knew. Not all the time anyway.

        • #2903137

          How many personalities do you have?

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to That makes more sense then

          I like to only keep 2 or 3 around at a time. Keeps it interesting, but not confusing.

        • #2903133

          By golly, I may have to get another persona here too!

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to How many personalities do you have?

          I’ve had this one a long time, this particular iteration since 2001…prior to that it was just Wizard57M…but the email used for that one has gone to the great ether heaven…that was a good ISP also, darn it. I used to come though here on my old IBM PS2 with DOS 6.22, and a 2400 BAUD modem using dialup and a text browser based on Lynx called Bobcat…that was around 1997 or so. I still have that old IBM PS2, and the predecessor I had to that one, am ARMSTRAD PCIII, with dual 5.25 inch floppy drives, DOS 3.3! I don’t know why I kept them, but I did.

        • #2903119

          Everyone is doing it; it’s all the rage, you know.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to By golly, I may have to get another persona here too!

          Of course, you also have to get each of those personalities its own Facebook page, Twitter stream, followers, Social Security number, etc.

          My second personality is Loverock Davidson 😀

        • #2903105

          Now wait a minute!

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to Everyone is doing it; it’s all the rage, you know.

          I have it on good authority that Loverock Davidson is in fact Linus Torvalds! Anyway, that’s what HAL says! 😉

        • #2903802

          What does HAL know?

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to Everyone is doing it; it’s all the rage, you know.

          He’s confused because Linus is my third personality.

          Oh, and HAL’s my fourth…

        • #2903799

          Am I? NO TEXT

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Everyone is doing it; it’s all the rage, you know.

          :p

        • #2903737

          Gotta ask…

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to Everyone is doing it; it’s all the rage, you know.

          How do you turn your brain off when you’re posting as L.D.? 😉

        • #2903722

          Nick, you have it backwards.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to Everyone is doing it; it’s all the rage, you know.

          The question is, how do I turn it on when posting as HAL?

        • #2903721

          The answer to that question is

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to Everyone is doing it; it’s all the rage, you know.

          something I [b]don’t[/b] want to know! :0

        • #2903106

          I just hate it when they all talk at the same time.

          by aidemzo_adanac ·

          In reply to How many personalities do you have?

          If only some of them would shut up so I could concentrate on what the others are saying.

          Seriously though, the alias was shared between a group of friends, and a coworker or two, and a guy at Capitol Records and….

          When I cam to TR, it was to have a laugh and conduct a social experiment due to a psychology book I was into (was studying criminal pysche at one time).I am actually the original but I used to talk about posts here and have a laugh with people I knew. Pretty soon more and more started following along so I gave my log in out to anyone interested and they posted under the same alias.

          So I wasn’t actually OZ all the time. For the most part but there were some really heated arguments from an AR rep at Capitol and Max as well as a few others. Living in L.A. she actually spewed more Anti US sentiment than I did, though she always posed as a Canadian for continuity.

          It was a laugh really, then I started to find some good help for IT issues I was having but still shared the trenches with others. If you were actually interested and dug around in old posts, it looked like I was awake 24/7 because a friend in the UK used to post with my alias too, while I was fast asleep.

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