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Can I Defrag an SSD in Windows XP?

By Crash84 ·
Is there a program or a way to defrag an SSD drive in Windows XP, to increase performance? My computer is a dog after having an SSD for about 2 months. I looked at the drive in XP's defragment tool and the drive is all red.

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its not recommended to defrag SSD drives

by markp24 In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

SSD drives are limited on #or Writes. so defragging the drive will reduce its lifespan. Have you checked the system for malware infections, or tried a fresh reload of the drive?

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There's no point to defragging a SSD drive

by robo_dev In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

While SSDs do slow down as they get more full of data, most of the newer ones are much faster than a regular hard drive. I would suspect a malware infection as stated above...

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Defragmenting SSDs

by byl In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

I agree with markp24@.; one should not defrag SSD drives as they have limited write cycles.

With SSDs it's not so much a matter of file fragmentation, it's more of a free space issue that can lead to lowered performance so a dferag would not help an SSD -- irt basically needs to be optimized.

See link #1 below for more detailed info on this.

There is a tool that optimizes SSD drives called HyperFast. Here is some info on this tool:

1. Some technical info on HyperFast: http://downloads.diskeeper.com/pdf/HyperFast.pdf

2. This is a video by a gamer entitled "Keeping Your SSD Running Brilliant":

http://www.30monitor.com/keeping-your-ssd-running-brilliant/

Hope this helps!

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Yes, dont defrag an SSD

by Slayer_ In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

SSD's are random access, no moving parts. Leave the fragmentation alone. It is more likely that you have a virus or something.

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XP = no TRIM support . . .

by Who Am I Really In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

I don't even know if Vista supports TRIM ?

Once an SSD has been in use for a while it starts to suffer from double write penalties
- first to set the used cells back to 0
- and then to write the data

TRIM handles this in the background, when you're not writing to the disk.

and definitely No to defrag not even once

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How full is the disk?

by DesertJim In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

Another thing that affects the performance of SSDs is their % utilisation. As the disk fills up the larger block size that is written (irrespective of the size of data) needs that amount of free space. Also there is a penalty for "static data" because as it is never overwritten the smarts in the controller can't utilise the space as well. So if your SSD is over 50% full of static data then performance will drop off. Still better than a HDD but after the initial blazing speed of a brand new SSD this is noticeable.

Also check your BIOS settings that it is set for SATA and not IDE

Let me know your disk utilisation and how much of this belongs to Windows and Apps.

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TRIM on XP

by DesertJim In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

No TRIM on XP but there is the Intel SSD toolbox which may help

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=1845

I don't know if you can do this with Windows as I use a different OS but if you have enough RAM on the system I put my Temp storage in RAM (saves all those nasty RWs to the SSD) and makes good performance on both HDD and SSDs but is poor on recovery if something goes wrong.

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by Who Am I Really In reply to TRIM on XP

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No.

by morris.levy In reply to Can I Defrag an SSD in Wi ...

No. Solid State Drive (SSD) has no moving parts; it functions much like "RAM" if you know how the "hard drive" works. A physical hard drive disk (HDD) has spinning discs, and has to index the data of where it is located, whereas SSD uses paging of the data. Think of it like a big thumb drive.

If your drive is slow, it could be early signs of a failing solid state. Because this is early, developing technology, there is little guarantee that it will have the same life-span of a HDD. Estimates have been around 2-3 years before the drive ceases.

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by Who Am I Really In reply to No.

we had a 120GB SSD on an XP-64 x86 workstation that fried in 8 months

I would expect the same results from any OS without TRIM support
even the SSD units with the 10 year warranty

Switched to a 10K Raptor and there's no real noticeable performance difference
programs still open instantly

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