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    Can someone help walk me through DNS.

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    by mmbc_voltron ·

    I have tried multipule times to setup up a test 2k server. It seems to always fail when I am setting up DNS. So if someone can help walk me through each step that would be great. Right now I have re-loaded 2k server and just updated to SP4. Now I need to set a static IP. I am getting one from my linksys router right now of 103. Should I set the static to 192.168.1.5? Before I was using something like 208.201.235.2 and then setting the DHCP to 208.201.235.10-50.

    after I get the Static IP asigned I have to setup DHCP. There is no special help there. it is all striaght forward.

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    • #3312568

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      Windows 2000 DNS White Paper

      This paper describes the Windows 2000 operating system Domain Naming System (DNS), including design, implementation, and migration issues. It discusses how DNS is implemented in Windows 2000, shows examples of DNS implementations, and describes the architectural criteria that network architects and administrators should consider when designing a DNS namespace for the Active Directory? service to provide reliable network naming services.

      The purpose of this document is to assist network architects and administrators in planning the Windows 2000 Active Directory service DNS deployment strategy. It covers the design, implementation, and migration issues that need to be considered when rolling out a scalable and robust DNS solution as a global name service.

      Although this paper assumes familiarity with DNS, it provides a short overview of DNS basics.

      http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/communications/nameadrmgmt/w2kdns.asp

    • #3312552

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by willcomp ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      In brief:

      Let router handle DHCP. Set server static IP address within same subnet but outside DHCP range of router.

      Example:

      Router DHCP range is 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.100.150 (50 addresses starting at 192.168.1.100)

      Set server IP address to 192.168.1.200

      It is easier to let router handle DHCP on a small network. If you want server to provide DHCP, then you must disable DHCP on router. Cannot have 2 DHCP servers on same network.

      Dalton

    • #3312469

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by mmbc_voltron ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      So I setup DHCP on my 2k server. The address of my server is 208.201.225.2
      Now I will setup the router to forward port 53.
      So now I am ready for DCPROMO. My server name is SERVER. and I want to name my internal domain to BTB.com. I will keep you posted on the steps I do. Unless I need to setup and configure DNS before the DCPROMO. I just figured that it will do the configuring on it’s own.

    • #3312886

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by razz2 ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      I could not disagree with willcomp more. In any 2000 or 2003
      network, DHCP should be on the server. many small business’ do
      do it his way, but that is only because of a lack of knowledge,
      not because it is good design. Any XP or 2000 clients look for
      logon servers and AD service info in DNS. They may even try to
      register themselves in DNS. If the DHCP is the router then it will
      assign ISP DNS servers and you will generate many errors in
      logs. Put DHCP on the server and config options for DNS, Wins if
      needed, gateway etc.

      I do not know what you are trying to acomplish, but since you
      said “test 2k server” I will make some guesses.

      When you say “seems to always fail when I am setting up DNS”,
      what does it say, do, or log?

      I will assume the following:

      1. You know that you are using public ip’s.

      If your server is behind a firewall / router then it should be a
      private ip. Something like 192.168.y.z or 10.x.y.z. Even if it is
      public, there are advantages to it being screened. If it needs for
      some reason to be public then you’re ok but it should still be
      behind the firewall, maybe on an Optional Port, to stop Dos
      attacks etc. (I do not know why a test server would be public
      though).

      Now, Why do you want to use a public domain name of
      BTN.com? If it is the public server then have the domain point at
      the router public ip and keep the internal DNS/DOMAIN as
      BTB.local. Using a .com internally will cause issues with external
      resolution of that domain.

      I usually set routers at .1, .2 etc up to whatever. Servers are .10,
      .11 etc and workstations in the .100’s. Network printers in the
      .200’s but that is subjective.

      Run DC Promo and let it setup DNS. Do not choose to be a root
      serverIf it sets up as a root then go into DNS and delete the “.”
      entry. Then the root hints will function and you could even set
      forwarders to the ISP DNS servers.

      DNS can be complex, but in a single 2000 domain it should auto
      se

    • #3312682

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by mmbc_voltron ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      Thks razz2
      I will change the IP to 192.168.1.5 for the server and add the DHCP option for the router @192.168.1.1. Then When I run DCpromo I will use the .local instead.

    • #3313199

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by mmbc_voltron ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      I get this error after dcpromo.

      Event Type: Warning
      Event Source: NETLOGON
      Event Category: None
      Event ID: 5781
      Date: date
      Time: time
      User: N/A
      Computer: SERVER

      Description:
      Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed because no DNS servers are available.

      I looked it up and found this:
      http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=311354

      I did want it says and restarted and still the same error happened.

    • #3313011

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by mmbc_voltron ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      Point value changed by question poster.

    • #3311514

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by razz2 ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      I think you are looking at the wrong article. This error is
      common when a DC is also a DNS server and it’s DNS
      setting point at itself. The microsoft KB:

      http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=259277

      says:

      NOTE: A common cause for these errors is that a
      domain controller references itself as a primary DNS
      server in its TCP/IP properties. When the domain
      controller starts in this configuration, the Netlogon
      service may start before the DNS service starts.
      Because the Netlogon service must register records in
      DNS and the DNS service is not yet available, errors
      may occur. In this situation, you can safely ignore the
      errors because the Netlogon service will again try to
      register the records in approximately five minutes, at
      which time it will be successful. However, there are two
      ways to avoid the errors in this scenario:

      ? Make sure that domain controllers do not reference
      themselves as a primary DNS server in their TCP/IP
      properties.
      ? Configure the Netlogon service to depend on the DNS
      service. This will cause the Netlogon service to start
      after the DNS service starts. To do this, run REGEDT32,
      and go to:
      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
      Services\Netlogon
      In the right pane, double-click the value
      DependOnService and add DNS to the next available
      blank line. Click OK and exit Registry Editor. For
      additional information, click the article number below to
      view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
      193888 How to Delay Loading of Specific Services

      Hope it helps,

      razz

      • #3311512

        Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        by razz2 ·

        In reply to Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        Oh yeah, the KB you looked at has some info left out
        but it based on changing from 1 domain to another.
        Yours is a fresh install.

        Also, Make sure DNS is set to allow dynamic updates.

        Let me know what happens.

        razz

      • #3311508

        Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        by mmbc_voltron ·

        In reply to Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        Ok Razz2 you almost got me out of my problem.
        When it says Make sure that domain controllers do not reference
        themselves as a primary DNS server in their TCP/IP
        properties.
        That could be my problem: I have a static Ip of 192.168.1.5
        then I enter the router as the gateway. Then down where the DNS settings are I entered 192.168.1.5
        Could this be the problem?
        I tried the registry edit before and I can’t do it. I put in DNS and then in the left side it puts some numbers. then I hit OK and and go back into it and all it has is DN.
        I will try this out and then hopefully award the points.

    • #3311506

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by mmbc_voltron ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      Now I get all this.
      Directory Service

      Event Type: Error
      Event Source: NTDS General
      Event Category: (18)
      Event ID: 1126
      Date: 11/12/2004
      Time: 5:08:45 PM
      User: Everyone
      Computer: SERVER
      Description:
      Unable to establish connection with global catalog.

      System Log

      Event Type: Error
      Event Source: NETLOGON
      Event Category: None
      Event ID: 2138
      Date: 11/12/2004
      Time: 4:53:34 PM
      User: N/A
      Computer: SERVER
      Description:
      The Workstation service has not been started.

      Event Type: Error
      Event Source: Service Control Manager
      Event Category: None
      Event ID: 7024
      Date: 11/12/2004
      Time: 4:53:34 PM
      User: N/A
      Computer: SERVER
      Description:
      The Net Logon service terminated with service-specific error 2138.

      I am going to undo the registry for the dependonservice for netlogon.

    • #3311490

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by razz2 ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      You are so close. A few things…

      It is OK to have a server point at itself when it is the only
      server. meaning it is DC, Global catalog, DHCP, DNS
      etc. The reg edit should work but because of the DNS
      changing to DN something is odd. You did this:

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
      Services\Netlogon

      In the right pane, double-click the value
      DependOnService and add DNS to the next available
      blank line. Click OK and exit Registry Editor.

      My guess is that DNS is fine. Try testing the DNS using
      any method you want. You can recreate boot time by
      doing a test and try stopping the Netlogon service.
      Restart it and look in the log. If there are no new entries
      it is because DNS was running when it started. It may
      be worth doing the reg edit and then tracing any new
      errors.

      Let me know,,

      razz

      • #3311481

        Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        by razz2 ·

        In reply to Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        OK, here is some more. This is from eventid.net:

        “Bjarni Thor

        I had this test machine that was a DC running DNS. I
        was getting this error, every two hours. I got rid of this
        error as follows:

        1. In the TCP/IP properties of the machine I selected
        “Advanced” and then “DNS”
        2. In the “DNS server addresses, in order of use:” I put
        the IP of my DNS server at the top, then the forwarders.

        Before the 5781 I was getting the 5782 error – for that I
        made the recommended changes in the registry:

        Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Systems\
        CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters

        Create a new DWORD value and name it:
        DnsUpdateOnAllAdapters. Set the value to 1.”

        Just thought I would throw it out there in case it helps.

        razz

      • #3311383

        Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        by mmbc_voltron ·

        In reply to Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

        Hope this all fits.
        I get these errors now. I figured out why I couldn’t add the DNS to the registry. I wasn’t putting the D.N.S.
        Now it takes like 5 mins to load.

        Event Type: Error
        Event Source: NETLOGON
        Event Category: None
        Event ID: 2138
        Date: 11/13/2004
        Time: 10:23:02 AM
        User: N/A
        Computer: SERVER
        Description:
        The Workstation service has not been started.

        Event Type: Error
        Event Source: Service Control Manager
        Event Category: None
        Event ID: 7024
        Date: 11/13/2004
        Time: 10:23:02 AM
        User: N/A
        Computer: SERVER
        Description:
        The Net Logon service terminated with service-specific error 2138.

        Event Type: Warning
        Event Source: WinMgmt
        Event Category: None
        Event ID: 61
        Date: 11/13/2004
        Time: 10:24:36 AM
        User: N/A
        Computer: SERVER
        Description:
        WMI ADAP was unable to process the PerfDisk performance library due to a time violation in the open function

    • #3311376

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by mmbc_voltron ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      Now I can’t even open AD.
      It says:
      Naming information cannot be located because: The specified domain either does not exist or could not be contacted. Contact you system administrator to verify that your domain is properly configured and is currently online.

      It seems like I am doing something wrong every time I re-install 2k. Because I get the same thing, it never changes.

    • #3311343

      Reply To: Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      by razz2 ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

      Wow this is fun eh?

      OK, the DNS entry should NOT have ‘dots’. Just DNS.

      EXAMPLE:

      Configure the Netlogon service to depend on the DNS service.
      This will cause the Netlogon service to start after the DNS
      service starts. To do this, run REGEDT32, and go to:

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Net
      logon

      In the right pane, double-click the value DependOnService and
      add DNS to the next available blank line. Click OK and exit
      Registry Editor.

      NOTE: the “next available blank lin” part. This is where I wish I
      could touch the box.

      So, Lets go back a bit. When the eror came at boot. It did not
      keep showing after full boot correct? Did the DNS test as OK? If
      so the original error could be ignored but the reg edit should
      take DNS and make it stop the error. I will check the new errors
      when I can this coming week.

      razz

    • #3292353

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      by mmbc_voltron ·

      In reply to Can someone help walk me through DNS.

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