Can someone help walk me through DNS.

Windows 2000 DNS White Paper

This paper describes the Windows 2000 operating system Domain Naming System (DNS), including design, implementation, and migration issues. It discusses how DNS is implemented in Windows 2000, shows examples of DNS implementations, and describes the architectural criteria that network architects and administrators should consider when designing a DNS namespace for the Active Directory? service to provide reliable network naming services.

The purpose of this document is to assist network architects and administrators in planning the Windows 2000 Active Directory service DNS deployment strategy. It covers the design, implementation, and migration issues that need to be considered when rolling out a scalable and robust DNS solution as a global name service.

Although this paper assumes familiarity with DNS, it provides a short overview of DNS basics.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/communications/nameadrmgmt/w2kdns.asp

In brief:

Let router handle DHCP. Set server static IP address within same subnet but outside DHCP range of router.

Example:

Router DHCP range is 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.100.150 (50 addresses starting at 192.168.1.100)

Set server IP address to 192.168.1.200

It is easier to let router handle DHCP on a small network. If you want server to provide DHCP, then you must disable DHCP on router. Cannot have 2 DHCP servers on same network.

Dalton

So I setup DHCP on my 2k server. The address of my server is 208.201.225.2
Now I will setup the router to forward port 53.
So now I am ready for DCPROMO. My server name is SERVER. and I want to name my internal domain to BTB.com. I will keep you posted on the steps I do. Unless I need to setup and configure DNS before the DCPROMO. I just figured that it will do the configuring on it's own.

I could not disagree with willcomp more. In any 2000 or 2003
network, DHCP should be on the server. many small business' do
do it his way, but that is only because of a lack of knowledge,
not because it is good design. Any XP or 2000 clients look for
logon servers and AD service info in DNS. They may even try to
register themselves in DNS. If the DHCP is the router then it will
assign ISP DNS servers and you will generate many errors in
logs. Put DHCP on the server and config options for DNS, Wins if
needed, gateway etc.

I do not know what you are trying to acomplish, but since you
said "test 2k server" I will make some guesses.

When you say "seems to always fail when I am setting up DNS",
what does it say, do, or log?

I will assume the following:

1. You know that you are using public ip's.

If your server is behind a firewall / router then it should be a
private ip. Something like 192.168.y.z or 10.x.y.z. Even if it is
public, there are advantages to it being screened. If it needs for
some reason to be public then you're ok but it should still be
behind the firewall, maybe on an Optional Port, to stop Dos
attacks etc. (I do not know why a test server would be public
though).

Now, Why do you want to use a public domain name of
BTN.com? If it is the public server then have the domain point at
the router public ip and keep the internal DNS/DOMAIN as
BTB.local. Using a .com internally will cause issues with external
resolution of that domain.

I usually set routers at .1, .2 etc up to whatever. Servers are .10,
.11 etc and workstations in the .100's. Network printers in the
.200's but that is subjective.

Run DC Promo and let it setup DNS. Do not choose to be a root
serverIf it sets up as a root then go into DNS and delete the "."
entry. Then the root hints will function and you could even set
forwarders to the ISP DNS servers.

DNS can be complex, but in a single 2000 domain it should auto
se

Thks razz2
I will change the IP to 192.168.1.5 for the server and add the DHCP option for the router @192.168.1.1. Then When I run DCpromo I will use the .local instead.

I get this error after dcpromo.

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5781
Date: date
Time: time
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER

Description:
Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed because no DNS servers are available.

I looked it up and found this:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=311354

I did want it says and restarted and still the same error happened.

Point value changed by question poster.

I think you are looking at the wrong article. This error is
common when a DC is also a DNS server and it's DNS
setting point at itself. The microsoft KB:

http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=259277

says:

NOTE: A common cause for these errors is that a
domain controller references itself as a primary DNS
server in its TCP/IP properties. When the domain
controller starts in this configuration, the Netlogon
service may start before the DNS service starts.
Because the Netlogon service must register records in
DNS and the DNS service is not yet available, errors
may occur. In this situation, you can safely ignore the
errors because the Netlogon service will again try to
register the records in approximately five minutes, at
which time it will be successful. However, there are two
ways to avoid the errors in this scenario:

? Make sure that domain controllers do not reference
themselves as a primary DNS server in their TCP/IP
properties.
? Configure the Netlogon service to depend on the DNS
service. This will cause the Netlogon service to start
after the DNS service starts. To do this, run REGEDT32,
and go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\Netlogon
In the right pane, double-click the value
DependOnService and add DNS to the next available
blank line. Click OK and exit Registry Editor. For
additional information, click the article number below to
view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
193888 How to Delay Loading of Specific Services

Hope it helps,

razz

Now I get all this.
Directory Service

Event Type: Error
Event Source: NTDS General
Event Category: (18)
Event ID: 1126
Date: 11/12/2004
Time: 5:08:45 PM
User: Everyone
Computer: SERVER
Description:
Unable to establish connection with global catalog.

System Log

Event Type: Error
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 2138
Date: 11/12/2004
Time: 4:53:34 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
The Workstation service has not been started.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7024
Date: 11/12/2004
Time: 4:53:34 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
The Net Logon service terminated with service-specific error 2138.

I am going to undo the registry for the dependonservice for netlogon.

You are so close. A few things...

It is OK to have a server point at itself when it is the only
server. meaning it is DC, Global catalog, DHCP, DNS
etc. The reg edit should work but because of the DNS
changing to DN something is odd. You did this:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\Netlogon

In the right pane, double-click the value
DependOnService and add DNS to the next available
blank line. Click OK and exit Registry Editor.

My guess is that DNS is fine. Try testing the DNS using
any method you want. You can recreate boot time by
doing a test and try stopping the Netlogon service.
Restart it and look in the log. If there are no new entries
it is because DNS was running when it started. It may
be worth doing the reg edit and then tracing any new
errors.

Let me know,,

razz

Now I can't even open AD.
It says:
Naming information cannot be located because: The specified domain either does not exist or could not be contacted. Contact you system administrator to verify that your domain is properly configured and is currently online.

It seems like I am doing something wrong every time I re-install 2k. Because I get the same thing, it never changes.

Wow this is fun eh?

OK, the DNS entry should NOT have 'dots'. Just DNS.

EXAMPLE:

Configure the Netlogon service to depend on the DNS service.
This will cause the Netlogon service to start after the DNS
service starts. To do this, run REGEDT32, and go to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Net
logon

In the right pane, double-click the value DependOnService and
add DNS to the next available blank line. Click OK and exit
Registry Editor.

NOTE: the "next available blank lin" part. This is where I wish I
could touch the box.

So, Lets go back a bit. When the eror came at boot. It did not
keep showing after full boot correct? Did the DNS test as OK? If
so the original error could be ignored but the reg edit should
take DNS and make it stop the error. I will check the new errors
when I can this coming week.

razz

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