Can the age of a website be a clue 4 detecting fradulent sites?

By UAddUp ·
I spend many hours reading reviews about websites before I give them my credit card information.

It is though, because:

1.Many review sites are full with sponsored recommendations.

2. Many website owners post positive reviews about their site.

3. And worse, some negative reviews are written by competitors!

4. Plus, occasionally, consumers exaggerate. Reviews yell that companies like Sprint & Pizza-Hut are Fraudulent. (They might not have the best customer service, but does this make them fraudulent?)

On the other hand there a few easy, fast clues that help me decide how establish a website is:

1. The age of a site

2. How popular a site is ? (I check age and popularity at http://reviewandjudge.org/

3. The look of the site: design, layout etc.

4. The content of the site: does it sound computer generated?

5. Does it have a phone number, are the contact forms answered promptly?

According to: http://reviewandjudge.org/General/internet-scams.html :

Quote: Scam websites die off quickly. A website that is around for at least couple of years is more likely to be a legitimate site.

Is it true? Could anyone suggest a website that is clearly fradulent but it?s been around for years?

Quote: High traffic volume often indicates a site that has many satisfied users. A popular site is more likely to be a legitimate site. On balance, a high-traffic site is likely to have a higher number of customer complaints online, simply by virtue of the high volume of business it does?.

So, is it acceptable for a high traffic website to receive many complaints?

How about ReviewAndJudges- Liked by Google Icon ? if Google trusts a site, so should I?

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It's not easy

by TobiF In reply to Can the age of a website ...

To keep a site secure.

Every now and then, you may catch a drive-by infection from a decent site, which may have been planted via adverts or through hacking of the site by outsiders via different exploits.

When it comes to whom you trust with your credit card details, then it gets even nastier.
If the site brags about using "secure https" for their orders, stay off. Yeah, your communication with the server may be encrypted, but if they think that https in itself means security, how will they:
- store customer data and even credit card details
- protect the database from intruders

Some banks offer one-time credit cards or fine-granulated self-service settings where you beforehand approve amounts (and maybe even pick what companies are allowed to charge you.)

Also check your banks policy in case of fraudulent use of your card info.

Of course, it's good to check around. But there are even more tricks than you listed above. There have been cases where a fraudulent site has copied texts and images off a real site...

But one important thing you do mention: Is the company possible to contact? (If they list a phone number, will they answer your call? Do you get reasonably quick replies to your emails?)

I may pay a dollar more, but buy from the web-pages of the well-known department store. If there are any problems, I can always walk into a real brick-and-mortar shop that won't disappear over night.

Oh: If you trust Google checkout and/or paypal with your credit card details, then you may use them to not give out this information to several smaller websites.

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It may pay a dollar more,..

by UAddUp In reply to It's not easy

It may pay a dollar more, but buy from the web-pages of the well-known department store.

But sometimes is 50% cheaper in those smaller sites.

Sometimes I feel like - if they will steal my Credit Card info, i can always call my cc company and shut down the account.

Chase, my cc company, twice put a hold on my aacount beacause I had too many "online" transcations in one day. Is relying on their monitoring enough?

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Use WOT (Web of Trust) add on for Firefox

by robo_dev In reply to Can the age of a website ...

This will tell you if the site is a 'known bad' site before you even click on the link.

WOT will give you the site rating while in Google or similar search site. WOT works well.

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You can also check at PhishTank

by seanferd In reply to Use WOT (Web of Trust) ad ...

http://www.phishtank.com/ to see if the domain hosts phishing attempts. Whether the site was compromised to host a phish, or the phish is intended by the site owners, it isn't good.

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RE: Could anyone suggest a website that is clearly fradulent but it?s been

by OH Smeg Moderator In reply to Can the age of a website ...

Well how about this one it's defiantly fraudulent


They claim that their products work, which is more than a bit of a stretch of the imagination. :^0

But seriously it's not easy. As the old saying goes A Fool and his money is soon parted so even a brand new site at best only indicates a new business who has just started or just gone to the Web for more customers.

As far as Customer Reviews go they are about as useful as T1 Ts on a Bull, customers are just that customers and some are completely unreasonable. I've seen complaints leveled against several companies because product got lost in transit by a third party. It was the sellers fault that the transport agent lost it and no attempt was made to contact the seller to find a solution. Or worse I've seen reports that people paid for something internationally and then 3 days latter left Unfavorable feedback/reports/whatever because the item had not arrived even though the add clearly said allow 20 days for international delivery.

Another case of a remote controlled Aircraft kit was that it arrived Unopened and appeared new but because something was missing the seller had deliberately conned the buyer. It's just not possible that the buyer got something unopened that it's maker had stuffed up on or they also didn't see the need to ask the seller could they fix this situation. Customers are very rarely right when they are unhappy and always unreasonable.

Another example was a big Computer Parts seller in the US got a handful of Intel Display Boxes sent out as new CPU's which they where not. Several of the people who received these supposed CPU's instead of going directly the the seller accused the seller of conning them on the Net in what can only be described as one of the worst cases of Deformation that I've seen in a long time. So I see their reports as useless anyway.

The measure that I use is if I can not afford to loose everything in that Account that the Card is linked to I don't buy anything from that site. Also if the terms appear Too Good To be True they are most likely to be fraudulent so I avoid those places as well.

But even with the best secured site on the net the security is still only as good as what you practice on your personal computer. So if you have a system loaded with Infections/Malware and so on even the most secure site on the face of the planet is no guarantee that you details will not end up somewhere that you didn't intend them to go. So the easy answer is Never pay for anything over the Internet. Just the same as Phone Payments there are risks involved and it all falls back onto the individual user as to how they respond to these potential threats to their money.


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Never pay for anything over the internet

by santeewelding In reply to RE: Could anyone suggest ...

I am doomed.

Has to include earned friendship over the internet, too, no?

Colin is a fraud!


unwanted "s"

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by OH Smeg Moderator In reply to Never pay for anything ov ...

Best not let anyone know that.

OH wait a minute I just read it on the Internet so it must be true. :0

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What do you mean by: the measure that I use...

by UAddUp In reply to RE: Could anyone suggest ...

The measure that I use is if I can not afford to loose everything in that Account that the Card is linked to I don't buy anything from that site

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It's fairly simple really

by OH Smeg Moderator In reply to What do you mean by: the ...

If I can not afford to loose everything in the account that the card is linked to I don't buy anything.

That is my Personal way of doing business. If I can not be sure that any site is safe I look for other sources of that product or just go without. There is no reason why you have to have something after all it's not actually required very often and in the few instances where something is required there are always other sources for it.

Just because you can buy things on the Net doesn't mean to say you have to buy thongs on the net.


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