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    Can’t boot XP

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    by shells ·

    I am hoping you can help me with this please. I have a P4 mesh elite (yes I know) 300gb/1024mb
    It is 3 months old and twice I’ve had a start up problem, the first one was resolved with the repair disc pressing R and it was fine.
    This time its different, the system starts and goes through all the checks and then hangs at the xp page where it is just going to show you the users.
    I cannot get into safe mode as it does the same, or anything else on that page of options.
    I cannot do a repair as there is no option on the disc ?
    I can get into the repair console and I’ve done a scan and a chkdsk /p and /r but I’ve no idea what else to try there.
    And the only options I have on the repair disc are to partition or remove folder that xp is in and put a new installation in.
    Please let me know if there is any way around this? michelle

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    • #3172162

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      by oz_media ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      Hmmm, there’s a lot of issue that will cause XP to hang on boot, mainly drivers and device conflicts.

      I would try firstly, removing the network card and rebooting, even trying to get Safe Mode at that point, it may be locking up on a login issue.

      Can you roll it back and see if it will boot on an earlier date?

      It sounds like it could be a graphics driver/card issue too though. IF you have an add-on (AGP/PCI) video card, with a second connection directly to the motherboard for the monitor, remove the graphics card, hook the monitor up to the old monitor port and try booting.

    • #3172155

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      by sgt_shultz ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      ruh roe. you can’t even get to ‘press spacebar to use last known good configuration’ eh? yuck. if you are low on hd space and bad about defragging maybe you are lucky and ntldr is too badly fragmented to load. but you usually get pretty clear error message. overwriting it with a new copy won’t fix it. to test for ntldr fragmented/missing problem, boot with your xp setup CD inserted. read carefully when boot menu comes up. see if your crippled os is offered. if it is and you can pick it and boot, you have ntldr missing or too fragmented to load. i believe you can defrag using recovery console. if not you will have to/prefer to install second instance of xp maybe on second hd, to run tools to fix current broken xp. like defrag, fixmbr
      do you have reason to suspect virus?
      is cmos checkout completely finishing before boot? can you boot this system with a boot diskette?
      see this: Computer stops responding with a black screen when you start Windows XP. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314503
      in there are instructions for making a boot diskette.
      find ‘how to second xp installation’ at support.microsoft.com

    • #3172032

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      by willcomp ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      Ensuring that I understand correctly. When you boot from XP CD and progress to installation screen, there is no option for a Repair Install.

      Usually when that occurs with system hanging at logon, a registry hive is corrupt (probably SAM hive) that will not produce an error message.

      Try repairing the registry. Instructions are in link below.

      http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307545

      Dalton

      • #3172361

        Reply To: Can’t boot XP

        by willcomp ·

        In reply to Reply To: Can’t boot XP

        Message means that System hive (part of registry) is corrupt. Only way to repair is to repair registry using instructions in MS KB article above, or connect drive to another XP PC and use Explorer to extract backup files from Restore folder.

        Dalton

    • #3172009

      Reply To: Can’t boot XP

      by shells ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      not sure how to reply in here … thanks for all of your replies – I thought the last one would do it, DALTONS – so I tried that, but it wouldn’t repair them (I guess something to do with why I can’t access the R funtion from the repair disk) so seeing as I deleted the lines – I now get a message ……
      Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM
      Press R to repair
      but it won’t repair …… 🙁

    • #3171944

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      by wcp ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      I?d like to offer one more probable cause.
      Your HD might have crashed. Do a HD diagnostic test. You can download a diagnostic utility from the HD manufacturer?s website.

    • #3172416

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      by bkiley_2000 ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      I HAD THE EXACT PROBLEM LAST WEEK & I DID WHAT EVERYONE SUJESTED STILL NO BOOT,I FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM MY 2 512 DDR PC 2700 MEMORY FAILED! NOT ONE BUT BOTH! TO BE POSSITIVE THIS WAS TRUE I PUT EACH ONE (ONE AT A TIME) IN ANOTHER XP PC AND BE HOLD THIS PC WOULDN’T BOOT NOW EITHER,IT WOULD BOOT UP TO THE WIN. XP LOGO THEN RESTART.I SPENT DAMN NEAR ENOUGH TO BUILD ANOTHER PC BEFORE I THOUGHT TO TEST THE MEM.EVEN THOUGH THE SELF TEST AT BOOT SAID MEMORY OK.HOPE THIS HELPS YOU. BILL

    • #3170543

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      by keith ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      Download the UBCD 4 windows from http://www.ubcd4win.com/
      then use the file manager to alter some files.
      Coopy these files to a folder for backup.
      C:\windows\system32\config\system
      C:\windows\system32\config\software
      C:\windows\system32\config\sam
      C:\windows\system32\config\security
      C:\windows\system32\config\default

      firstly I backed them up just in case it didn’t work

      open C:\System Volume Information\_restore{really long number here}\RPXXX\snapshot. XXXwill be the highest number you can see giving you the latest sytsem restore files. You should have found the most recent files by looking at the dates, the ones nearest to your crash

      there will be 5 files in that folder you need

      _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SYSTEM
      _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
      _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SAM
      _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SECURITY
      _REGISTRY_MACHINE_DEFAULT

      you can see the similarities and basically all you do is copy those files into the C:\windows\system32\config\ folder but also rename them to correct name

      _REGISTRY_MACHINE_SYSTEM becomes SYSTEM etc, basically just removing the _REGISTRY_MACHINE_ part of the name

    • #3170512

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      by goneforever ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      This is repairable using the recovery consol tool option on a winxp pro disk.
      Start computer with recovery consol.
      in recovery consol change to: c:\windows folder
      Type: ‘cd system32\config’ press enter
      Type: ‘dir system then press’ press enter
      Type ‘ren system system.bak’ press enter
      then:
      Type copy ‘c:\windows\repair\system’ press enter

      There should be a file copy message

      restart system and it should work.

    • #3170340
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      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      Also I would boot from a Floppy and perform a ScanDisk and CHKDSK on the HDD if you have the ability you can use a set of Norton’s Rescue Disks for an older different computer and do a Surface Scan on the HDD. It is not unknown for the heads to come into contact with the platters and cause the loss of data from any affected areas.

      I’ve been able to cure this type of thing previously with a Norton’s Disk Doctor Scan and even if there is no floppy fitted you can temporally fit one and run the scans. It could be that the HDD is starting to develop Bad Sectors as well so a Full scan by the HDD makers drive utility will tell you if there are any problems with the HDD as well.

      Lets know how you get on.

      Col

    • #3170280

      Reply To: Can’t boot XP

      by shells ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      Thats for all of your suggestions but I couldn’t do most of them as I couldn’t get into so much. After hours of searching – I reinstalled sadley I had to delete the old folder first so I lost alot of files but luckily alot had been backed up – just searching for my last couple of drivers now. But all up and running and no problems.
      Great Website with loads of help, thank you all very much xxxx

    • #3171763

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      by nemuelcruz ·

      In reply to Can’t boot XP

      To recover files from your formatted Disk, google File Recovery Software, there are some good ones out there, also, did you ever try

      FIXMBR command?

      Research it! It worked for me on the same issue I had with my PC

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