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Career advice: Working with poor manager

By Martin- ·
What can I do about working in a place with a poor IT manager/supervisor?

I'm tired of working here and being held back constantly by my boss' refusal to be a proactive member/leader of the IT team...just a member would be nice! It is just the two of us but he is the senior.

He is close enough to retirmeent, but is it worth me sticking around in the hopes of filling his position?

Read my rant here:

I only have 250 points to offer, but I'd like to give more!

Thanks in advance.

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by Deadly Ernest In reply to Career advice: Working wi ...

You need to speak to someone in the food chain higher than him. Find out if they are likely to let him go or retire him early. If they say no, then move on. If they say maybe, then get together the details of what the person is doing that causes delays and trouble and how those problems take you away from other tasks, delay projects and use your time poorly. Point out that the time lost can only be found by paying you overtime and you don't want that when it can be easily avoided. Cost the time involved.

If after seeing the report they don't want to take action, then move on as things aren't going to get better.

I'm an odd fish in that i was a clerical, accounting, administrator type before becoming a tech and have both IT and Management qualifications. I can tell you that a good manager is as much concerned about wasted staff time as he is about wasted cash, both adversely affect the bottom line. If staff are fully employed and 15% of that time is wasted, that is 15% of the time that could be redirected to more income generating work. Good managers know this and will act, however, good managers also have some loyalty to long term staff and will often seek to get problems fixed first. If they work at fixing things stay, the situation should improve and he will retire eventually, then you are in the right place.

On the other hand you could take the approach of letting him step into a few of his own problems, and when he gets fed up with them, say something like "Ge I wish I was old enough to retire and avoid this rubbish." - in effect subtle suggestions for him to retire.

All up a lot depends upon how bad the place is, and how long you woud have to 'stick it out' - a year or two can be done easily, five or more is heartburn and ulcer timing.

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by j.lupo In reply to Career advice: Working wi ...


I realize that it is difficult to discuss a situation like what you are in. Deadly Earnest gave you some good advice. I would like to add some of my own veiw to that as well.

1st - I don't really know the culture and environment of those you work with/under or even if you work in the United States. All these things play a part in the decision you will make.

2nd - if it is possible in the environment, try to have a 1-on-1 about your career path at the company. Be prepared to show examples of why you think you are ready to move within the company into another postion. It may be that the manager will tell you that when he retires the position will likely go to you. You don't know until you discuss it. Remember keep it professional, have all your evidence lined up as if it were a job interview (after all it probably is).

3rd. If you cannot develop a career path with your manager, then you should seek the HR or his manager and again have the same discussion. You can specify that you did speak with your manager about this and really want to develop your place within the company and grow with the company.

4th. If you really do not like the company, then that already answers your question. Time to update the resume, portfolio, cover letters, etc and start the job hunt process.

I wish I could help you more, but career wise the decision is always yours. If you can wait out the manager you have and then go from there, GREAT. If not, then job hunting is your only other choice.

Good Luck.

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