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Carrer Choices

By TimeHawk ·
Since I will be learning many languages, can anyone give me a few ideas of the job settings or job types I could gain with what I will know after my course?

I will have moderate business foundations and be able to comminicate properly in a business setting (speeches, memos, letters, meetings, instruction manuals, interviews). Accounting knowledge, statistics, system design and analysis, file structures, operating systems, networking, ACCESS, management issues. Languages learned will be COBOL, C, C++, Internet Programming, PowerBuilder, RPG, Java, and others I'm sure, just don't know exactly what. All this with unpaid work experience for 6 weeks.

I know I've been told by instructors and meetings that it will land a very decent job and the program is well known for that, but I want a few ideas from managers, IT professionals and anyone else where they see all of that being used (or portions).

Good Day.

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Pretty good basis

by epepke In reply to Carrer Choices

Don't forget Perl and other web stuff (ASP, Flash, etc.)

The biggest problem will be lack of experience.

But anyway, it sounds like a good niche would either be contract work or in-house software development for a business.

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Can you tell I'm a student?

by TimeHawk In reply to Pretty good basis

Can you elaborate a bit on what a contractor would do? I've seen the job title before but am not sure as to what they provide for services and what they actually do.

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by xxx123 In reply to Can you tell I'm a studen ...

Consultants/Contractors do anything permanent employees do, they just do it for a shorter period of time.

Individual companies may choose to use contractors for some types of work and not others. But often, consultants are selected when a company thinks they'll need an extra body or a particular skill only for a fixed period of time.

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Fixes problems

by epepke In reply to Can you tell I'm a studen ...

A contractor fixes problems. That's about as specific as you can get, which is why a general education is good for it. You never know exactly what the job is going to be. You go there, find out, fix it, and get out. A decent contracting firm will attempt to match your skills with what the client says they need, but in practice, you should know as much as possible. I spent more than a year with System One consulting, and I think they're pretty good. I'd stay away from the really big names if possible, though, as they seem interested in providing image.

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Good foundation, but not ready to run...

by TomSal In reply to Carrer Choices

Based on your post I'm taking that you have 6 weeks experience and whatever this course is going to teach you.

This is a good starting point but by no means is this qualifying someone to run "with the big dogs" out of the starting gate.

I'm not trying to be egotistical sounding or harsh, my style has always been - however - honesty.

I use to be a Visual Basic programmer years ago, for a very short while, then I switched gears to System and Network Management where I have been (and enjoying it) ever since.

My experience is that programming, largely, can't be taught - its like an artform. You can put the paint and the brush in someone's hand and demonstrate basic techniques but that's it. Whether the person can paint a beautifulpicture of the Sierras or just a bad Picasso of Ziggy is out of your control.

I would recommend starting with modest goals, preferrably with a small company-midsize company (50-100 employees). The reason isn't that a large company is impossible for you to make it. Its that at a small company you'll probably have more freedom and say in the code you write and how you execute your job duties. This is good for building your skills while also gaining confidence.

Large companies will almost certainly be a LOT more "****" (lack of a better word) in their job descriptions and the methods to which you perform them.

You would also be, in my opinion, much more valued for your multi-skill set of Accounting, business foundations and communication skills in the smaller business world.

They love saving money on employees that can do the job of two or more. Thus, for the potential small business employer I'd be thinking ROI! Where as from your perspective you could be thinking "I bring value".

What happens when the employer looks at you and says "ROI!" get P-A-I-D!

Good luck.

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Don't Joke yourself

by Shanghai Sam In reply to Carrer Choices

Wow !...all these business and tech stuff ! How long is this program anyway ?
So you will learn all these fancy technologies...but did you ask yourself which one(s) will you be COMPETENT in ? I mean after all you have just one brain like the rest of us,right?
I really don't mean to sound sarcastic...but I counted as least 7 long do you think it'll take you to be REASONABLY competent in all these languages ? Do you consider yourself to be the boy-prodigy type ? Do you eat, sleep go to the bathroom and make out like the rest of us ? Do you want to have at least a little, tiny piece of life ?
You've got to be REALLY LUCKY to get a "decent" job simply because you completed a program that teaches all these stuff.
Good Luck

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Gonna Be Rough

by Shanghai Sam In reply to Don't Joke ...

The program is two years. I don't think it will be too hard to be competent in all or most. Being semi-competent is still useful you know. You don't have to be a professional in every language to use them. It is The Computer Analyst/Programmer Program hence all the languages being learned. I've been told it is the one of the hardest programs in the college. It does take a lot of my time and is frustrating at times because of the intesity of the programming projects but really is nothing that can't be handled. The business stuff is so you interact in a professional situation or program some intense business applications and is important in my view.

I'm still fresh to this programming thing, but from my first language, logic is the hard part, and programming is the easy part. I've only done COBOL so far so we'll see. I will give some of my life to learn and to good in school. I may only have one shot at learning so I will definately make good use of it.

I'm not done with the end of this program either, I will be going to SAIT and getting my Bachalour of Information Systems Technology which will increase my importance to the technical community. Not quite sure if it will be directly after but soon after I hope.Awesome replies so far by the way.
Regards =)

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Give him a chance

by epepke In reply to Don't Joke ...

I don't think it's terribly difficult to become proficient in seven or even a dozen languages in two years, given sufficient will and the appropriate attitude.

In any event, I find his attitude refreshing compared to the "Help, which single language should I learn to put me on the gravy train for life?" attitude which is so common.

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I like that.

by TimeHawk In reply to Give him a chance

I am very willing to learn all of this and my first term marks are on the honor roll, which is my goal for each term and overall gpa. You don't get ahead by limiting yourself of what you are going to learn. Broadness is always good to have.

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