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Certification a waste

By emarige ·
I had trouble getting a job with just experience after a moved to a place where certification was everything. I wasted a bunch of time getting a mcse, a+, net+, ccna and I can't even get a job in tier1 help desk support. If they had jobs where I moved from I would be over qualified. Can I get a clue from someone. What kind of requirements would put me back in help desk.
Is anyone having trouble with TS/SCI requirements

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A+ Certification

by p_mcgrath03k In reply to Certification a waste

I have taken a course in A+ over a series of night classes twice a week for 6 months. I sat the A+ exams (hardware) twice and failed. I'm not dumb I know my stuff but I think that these exams are a bit of a money spinner. Twice on the exams I have had two very misleading questions which required one answer but gave four choisces and two of them were correct. Has anyone else had these problems?

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A+ Certification

by p_mcgrath03k In reply to Certification a waste

I have taken a course in A+ over a series of night classes twice a week for 6 months. I sat the A+ exams (hardware) twice and failed. I'm not dumb I know my stuff but I think that these exams are a bit of a money spinner. Twice on the exams I have had two very misleading questions which required one answer but gave four choices and two of them were correct. Has anyone else had these problems?

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Certification Exams

by Sullyman In reply to A+ Certification

Any IT related certification exam I have taken, and in some cases administered. I have always offered this little piece of advice-

" If there are more than 1 correct answers to any given scenario, the CHEAPEST $$ solution is always the correct answer "

E.G. Blah...blah...blah...what is the best best type of network

A - Telephone ( Wrong )
B - SAN ( Distractor )
C - Wireless WAN ( Could be )
D - Cable LAN ( Right answer less $$ )

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Questions

by clearsmashdrop In reply to A+ Certification

I have not formally taken any cert exams even though I should.

However, Ive taken exams for jobs and Ive notice they sometimes have answers with two correct answers, your expected to pick the best for the paticular situation. I hate these ones cause by habit I think what is best for my current network.

Also, one thing that bugged me is when you get a question that does not have a valid answer.

ie) One question I had was something to the effect of what command you would use to find the service pack.

I use WINVER from the run command. It was not listed as an option and Id never heard of the others.

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Certification woes

by gyerger_98 In reply to Certification a waste

To some degree I agree with you. But, whether you consciously realize it or not, the time spent on the 'book learning' was worth your time. How? Well it certainly required you to manage your time, right? It made you prioritize your schedule so that you could reach an attainable goal, right? Some employers are gung ho on certs and others aren't. Finding the rights one's is your challenge. Requires more homework on your part. To some degree the information presented in theory has relevanceto the kind of work you aspire to do or will one day do. As a senior hiring manager, I look for credentials, but more importantly I look for work experience, education and training, and someone who is going to mold well within my team. If this is communicated well on paper I'll bring a candidate in and allow them selves the opportunity to market them selves and present to me how they feel they can benefit the organization. IT is never, sorry everyone, going to be as strong as it was a few years ago. If we are lucky we may see half of what once was. Maintain your focus, it a tough economy right now, with any luck the tide will soon turn. TS/SCI requirements are primarily used in gov't jobs or contract positions that support the gov't. It isn't like you can just go out and get one. You have to work for uncle sam and if the position you are filling dictates a security clearance of this level they will begin the background investigation. Take a good amount of time, sometimes in excess of 6 months.

Where are you seeking employment? I'm based in Philly, if you'd like you can send me your resume as there are several positions in our IT dept that are currently open.

Greg Yerger
Director, Quality Assurance & Training
Northwestern Human Services
620 Germantown Pike
Lafayette Hill, Pa. 19444
website: www.nhsonline.org
"One Individual At A Time"

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Certification

by Prana7 In reply to Certification woes

MCSE is kind of waste time for myself. I m studying and realized that it isnt worth. I decided to study Security + and A+ etc,. best pratice to set up lab and trying to get job as basic or junior position. good luck all of you include myself :)

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Not your qualifications

by madroxxx In reply to Certification a waste

The market for IT is horrible these days. It most likely isn't that you don't have the qualification as the person they hire, most likely you just aren't getting noticed. Are you getting interviews but no jobs or just no interviews? I recently had to hire an entry level tech, I put a post on hotjobs on Friday morning. By monday I had a couple hundred resumes. I couldn't possibly review this many with my other time constraints. My advice, try to get noticed, preferably if you can get a refferal by someone that works in the company.

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It is all about who you know.

by clearsmashdrop In reply to Not your qualifications

I agree with the inside contact. I went 5 months without a call, except for 1 where I knew the person who vacated the position. The req was closed so I didnt get a chance to interview.

Then 6 weeks ago I got a call from a former coworker to comeand interview for a temp job at his company. I was underqualified but they like how I sold myself so I got hired. My contract is almost up, but oddly enough, I got 1 call out of the blue, plus a call from a temp agency.

So some of it is luck,a lot is who you know. Even during the boom, who you knew carried more weight often than the resume itself.

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TS/SCI

by njaneardude In reply to Certification a waste

I hate to be so bold as to say this but you are probably not going to get one. At the very least a company will accept someone with a active valid Secret clearance upgradeable to TS/SCI, after that someone holding a TS and of course what they want is someone holding a TS/SCI.

Our employer put us in for TS', some guys are jumping ship and have found jobs where they are being submitted for TS/SCI...monster bucks.

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How about your people skills

by Chris Simon In reply to Certification a waste

If you have all of those certs, and can't get a help desk job, maybe it is you. I have a student that is brilliant, with a CISSP cert, which is in great demand. He can't get a job, because he "Creeps" people out. Take a look in the mirror, do youlook like a great employee. How are your grammer skills? Work on yourself, you have the certs.

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